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Joe Hart
Comical for their second goal, like piggy in the middle
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Re: Joe Hart
That’s their first goalVegas Claret wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:34 pmhim and Lowton, can't just blame Hart
goal here
https://streamja.com/NApe
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Re: Joe Hart
Second goal not firstVegas Claret wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:34 pmhim and Lowton, can't just blame Hart
goal here
https://streamja.com/NApe
Agree Lawton had a shocker, not just the mistake for the goal but generally in terms of turning up
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Re: Joe Hart
Yup
Re: Joe Hart
Anything to have a go at hart. He wasnt at fault for either
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Re: Joe Hart
Out too far too soon for first, but would have been OK but for the awful header from Lowton.
All over the place for the second.
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Re: Joe Hart
Spot onboatshed bill wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:43 pmOut too far too soon for first, but would have been OK but for the awful header from Lowton.
All over the place for the second.
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Re: Joe Hart
I don't know what's wrong with Lowton, he was Mr Reliable. Abject again.
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Re: Joe Hart
Thought Lowton was good apart from his mistake. Much better footballer than Bardsley. We need a new right back though as neither are good enough for the PL.
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Re: Joe Hart
And Lowtons wayward back header for their first goal. Didn't stop some **** having a go at Hart after the half time whistle when he went for his water. There really are some pathetic excuse for fans at our clubVegas Claret wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:34 pmhim and Lowton, can't just blame Hart
goal here
https://streamja.com/NApe
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Re: Joe Hart
There's no excuse for having a go at JH. But I've said this on several occasions: He will never be a fit for BFC.Andreshotboots wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:00 pmAnd Lowtons wayward back header for their first goal. Didn't stop some **** having a go at Hart after the half time whistle when he went for his water. There really are some pathetic excuse for fans at our club
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Re: Joe Hart
Haha. If you’re trying to blame that goal on Hart then you have got an axe to grind and you’re doing a bad job of it. That was Lowton’s mistake, pure and simple.
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Re: Joe Hart
4v2 win but having a go at Hart for two goals that weren’t his fault... suppose we need something to moan about tonight
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Re: Joe Hart
How you can blame Hart is beyond me for the second. What on earth was Tarkowski doing feigning to be fouled just prior? Idiot!
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Re: Joe Hart
Hart was absolutely fine.
Re: Joe Hart
I think Hart gets a lot of unnecessary stick but that second goal does look a bit suspect.
No blame at all for the first, though.
No blame at all for the first, though.
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Re: Joe Hart
Some of the fans in the cricketfield stand were a disgrace towards Joe Hart.
One women shouting get out of this club at the top of her voice.
Another saying he was .... for not calling his name at a cross.
Another screamed bloody murder at him for the first goal conceded.
One women shouting get out of this club at the top of her voice.
Another saying he was .... for not calling his name at a cross.
Another screamed bloody murder at him for the first goal conceded.
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Re: Joe Hart
Other than coming for crosses he is no worse than Pope.
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Re: Joe Hart
How on earth you can find any amount of blame for Hart in that is ridiculous. I suppose Pope should have got to martial's one on one as well should he?
Re: Joe Hart
Lowton shocking for the first
Tarky terrible for the second not even attempting to win the header from the cross. Chose to try and buy a foul.
But it's easy to blame Hart
Tarky terrible for the second not even attempting to win the header from the cross. Chose to try and buy a foul.
But it's easy to blame Hart
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Re: Joe Hart
Tarkowski was at fault for the second whether he thought he was going to get poleaxed but he ducked out the way allowing the ball to carry through
Was VAR checking for a foul to
Was VAR checking for a foul to
Re: Joe Hart
At least he's developed then. One of his main problems last season was he would never come off his goaline. Here he is at the edge of the box, give him a chance. I'd be willing to see him in goal again.boatshed bill wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:43 pmOut too far too soon for first, but would have been OK but for the awful header from Lowton.
All over the place for the second.
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Re: Joe Hart
Ive no axe to grind with Hart, but you call it as you see it, and he contributed to both goals.
Yes Lowts back header was awful, but I couldnt see any need for Hart to be that far off his line, he opened the whole bloody goal up. For a keeper who is glued to his line for every cross it was bizarre decision making.
Tarks effort for the second was also pathetic, but when that ball was bouncing around him, Harts arms were glued to his sides. Just grab the bloody ball, or at least attempt to. Nick would have swallowed that ball up and the dangers gone.
It isn't the end of the world, we won, but anyone who thinks Hart had a good game is kidding themselves.
Yes Lowts back header was awful, but I couldnt see any need for Hart to be that far off his line, he opened the whole bloody goal up. For a keeper who is glued to his line for every cross it was bizarre decision making.
Tarks effort for the second was also pathetic, but when that ball was bouncing around him, Harts arms were glued to his sides. Just grab the bloody ball, or at least attempt to. Nick would have swallowed that ball up and the dangers gone.
It isn't the end of the world, we won, but anyone who thinks Hart had a good game is kidding themselves.
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Re: Joe Hart
He'll always be a scapegoat for some. Don't understand why. Instead of supporting him, some find the first possible reason to have a go. Weird
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Re: Joe Hart
Nothing whatsoever to do with Hart , he’s actually a slightly better keeper overall than Pope and is much better with his feet . That said Pope is superb at claiming high balls and for us that ( rightfully ) along with his “ youth” gives him the edge .
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Re: Joe Hart
Was he having a go at some fans sat behind the goal during a break in play or just having a chat. Saw it on tv but couldn’t work out the context.
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Re: Joe Hart
Heard he might be villa bound.
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City got rid of Hart specifically because he was no good with his feet. A lot seems to be made of Pope not being able to play the ball out with his feet - it’s not really an issue for us with the way we play and Pope is absolutely fine at clearing his lines. I can’t think of one goal he has cost Burnley because of his feet whereas Hart made a couple of mistakes at least when he was at West Ham and ended up getting dropped.AlargeClaret wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 8:26 pmNothing whatsoever to do with Hart , he’s actually a slightly better keeper overall than Pope and is much better with his feet . That said Pope is superb at claiming high balls and for us that ( rightfully ) along with his “ youth” gives him the edge .
Hart was a great keeper a few years ago - he’s not been for the last 3 or 4 years at least. Pope is better than him in all aspects of the game in my view.
All that said I would not be selling him to Villa as it could strengthen one of our direct relegation rivals - that would be pretty dumb.
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Re: Joe Hart
ironically, Pope uses his feet a lot to stop shots.
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It seems lots will always look for faults with Hart.
He got a lot of stick from certain sections regularly during that awful run up till Xmas last season (ending with the 5-1 defeat to Everton) with a poor 12 points to show from it.
Once Heaton came back, our form instantly turned around.. which made it look worse for Hart. To be fair our defence did look more reassured with Heaton back behind them, but a lot of the run up till that point wasn't all Hart's fault. I remember a few games he pulled off some great saves and kept scores down, but some fans were not having it... and trying to blame Hart for not being commanding enough etc.
Even if you don't like Hart, I don't think it's a good idea to berate our backup keeper... as when we ever need him, he will hardly be filled with confidence.. (directed to the fans at the ground constantly having a go at him)
He got a lot of stick from certain sections regularly during that awful run up till Xmas last season (ending with the 5-1 defeat to Everton) with a poor 12 points to show from it.
Once Heaton came back, our form instantly turned around.. which made it look worse for Hart. To be fair our defence did look more reassured with Heaton back behind them, but a lot of the run up till that point wasn't all Hart's fault. I remember a few games he pulled off some great saves and kept scores down, but some fans were not having it... and trying to blame Hart for not being commanding enough etc.
Even if you don't like Hart, I don't think it's a good idea to berate our backup keeper... as when we ever need him, he will hardly be filled with confidence.. (directed to the fans at the ground constantly having a go at him)
Re: Joe Hart
Hart was not to blame for either goal.
Lowton and Tarkowski should be the ones pondering, if anyone.
Lowton and Tarkowski should be the ones pondering, if anyone.
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Re: Joe Hart
Can’t blame the keeper for either goal. Both would have been scored with Pope in the nets IMO.
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Re: Joe Hart
Lowton was shocking today!
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Re: Joe Hart
Wembley09 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:54 pmIt seems lots will always look for faults with Hart.
There is no need to go looking for his faults, he puts then out in the open
The second goal was a joke. He was nowhere near the edge of his box as implied above. He was swatting at the ball as I do at wasps on the dinner table
No spacial awareness or command of his area
Only saying what I saw.
What was the point of playing him. BPF needs the experience and Hart won’t be here next year
Re: Joe Hart
Shouldn’t have started regardless. Bailey Peacock-Farrell is the future, Hart isn’t.
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Re: Joe Hart
He’s our number two goalkeeper. Of course he should have started.
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Re: Joe Hart
Was alright today.
Conceded a lot again though. As has been his forte for a number of years.
Conceded a lot again though. As has been his forte for a number of years.
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Re: Joe Hart
How the f£&k anyone can say Hart was at fault for any goals today know nothing about football.
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Re: Joe Hart
Pope’s ok with his feet and he’s worked his left foot really well,he strikes the ball well and doesn’t do anything silly at his feet . Compared to Bravo ( who himself is no Neur orTVC15 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:00 pmCity got rid of Hart specifically because he was no good with his feet. A lot seems to be made of Pope not being able to play the ball out with his feet - it’s not really an issue for us with the way we play and Pope is absolutely fine at clearing his lines. I can’t think of one goal he has cost Burnley because of his feet whereas Hart made a couple of mistakes at least when he was at West Ham and ended up getting dropped.
Hart was a great keeper a few years ago - he’s not been for the last 3 or 4 years at least. Pope is better than him in all aspects of the game in my view.
All that said I would not be selling him to Villa as it could strengthen one of our direct relegation rivals - that would be pretty dumb.
Navas) Bravo is of course technically better than JH with feet. Pep though simply wanted “ his man” to instigate the natural tippy tappy play from the back style rather than JH being a donkey
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Re: Joe Hart
I'm not Hart's biggest fan by a long way, but yesterday's goals were clearly down to other people's cock ups. Lowton with a header so weak my 88 year old mum could have done better and Tarks trying a "Barnes" right in front of our own goal, which is fine if the ref falls for it, but if he doesn't.....!
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Re: Joe Hart
Why? Surely not nonsense
If the plan is to let Hart go and BPF is the future then There is more value in giving BPF the experience
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Re: Joe Hart
Hart is second choice keeper who is likely to be on the bench for the remainder of the season. Pope was ruled out with injury yesterday so very sensible to give Hart a game. Definitely more value in playing Hart.Down_Rover wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:37 pmWhy? Surely not nonsense
If the plan is to let Hart go and BPF is the future then There is more value in giving BPF the experience
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Re: Joe Hart
That’s understandable but it is not nonsense to suggest BPF should play. He is the long term future
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And Hart is the current future. I’d have been stunned had he not played yesterday. Was the obvious, sensible choice, even more so with Pope carrying an injury.Down_Rover wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:49 pmThat’s understandable but it is not nonsense to suggest BPF should play. He is the long term future