Nahki Wells

[SGr]

Sheffield utd were a very creative championship last season...they're doing pretty well against premiership defences with a few journey men...tonight might or might not shed some light on how good their former championship players cope.

They play the same system as last season whereas Wells would be switching to a completely different one coming back to us. And he hasn’t had all summer to prepare for it.

[blake's wand]

Wells and Vydra both similar kind of players, and both couldn't get a game.

Do you think it's as simple as Dyche doesn't believe smaller strikers can fit into his system? Doubt he would buy them knowing this, which means maybe our style of play hasn't changed as much as he might have liked it to.

[EarbyClaret]

Wells and Vydra both similar kind of players, and both couldn't get a game.

Do you think it's as simple as Dyche doesn't believe smaller strikers can fit into his system? Doubt he would buy them knowing this, which means maybe our style of play hasn't changed as much as he might have liked it to.

There were definite signs of evolution with Defour in the team and one or both of Wells and Vydra could possibly have been effective with that quality of service from central midfield areas.

As it is, without that quality and no sign of a similarly gifted replacement we are almost entirely reliant on crosses/set-plays, so for as long as that situation continues our strikers will need to be tall and powerful enough for the war of attrition in the air.

[lakesider]

Not sure why you'd have problem with the word misrepresented. It turns out it's very apposite here since the BBC video that you watched (and linked) is a misrepresentation of the BBC (written) article on the same page that gives a fuller account of what Crouch said and thinks about Dyche.
In the fuller account he is very complimentary about Dyche.

The words I quoted came from the video, straight from the horses mouth so to speak so no misrepresentation on my part, which you implied. He might possibly not be referencing SD but the BBC show a picture of Crouch in a BFC shirt to perhaps suggest the link.
I agree, the sentiments that was written do seem at odds with what he said on the video. A confused chappy but nonetheless, not great press which was my point.

[nil_desperandum]

The words I quoted came from the video, straight from the horses mouth so to speak so no misrepresentation on my part, which you implied.

No I didn't - in fact I did exactly the opposite. I didn't in any way imply that you had misrepresented what he said. (It's not even ambiguous).
Here:

“Did you read the article or has someone misrepresented it to you?”

The latter was the case, since the BBC video totally misrepresented what Crouch said by only including the first part of the interview in the video.
It's a bit of an odd interview, but if we take it at face value, he was extremely complimentary abut Dyche.
Had a couple of us not drawn to your attention the full interview (in the text) then you would have been entirely misled by the BBC video - not your fault.

[1989_claret]

Scored again against Leeds. Poachers goal with help from a handball.

[ClaretTony]

Off topic in terms of the player but another worrying sign, anyone see the Peter Crouch Podcast? In it he reckoned he had another one maybe two years in him but felt degraded at his last club which was enough for him to retire, complaining he never got the opportunity to start a game yet he had 90 mins in him. Felt like he had been treated like a 'head on a stick' to be thrown on for the last twenty in the vain hope he might head something in. Obviously I recognise it's just his opinion and the manager doesn't have the opportunity to respond to his claims but a bad reflection on BFC. Add to that, having Liverpool fans commenting on the Ben tackle yesterday being just like Gomez incident, again opinions but it's not the same press we used to get as 'plucky little Burnley'. Our media Manager appearing very defensive at the moment also. Feeling the same vibe most of you seem to be feeling which is there's something not quite right going on but difficult to put your finger on it.

Maybe you should have listened to it all because your interpretation is miles away from what he said.

[beddie]

Crouch: In dreamland. From the little I saw of him there didn't look to be any running in his knees. No way he could have done 90 mins at PL level let alone 2 more full seasons.

Wells: Doing a good job,(especially today ) might need to hang on to him.

Both of the above comments are just my opinion of course.

[Bordeauxclaret]

If we are a striker down and we don’t bring in another one surely we’d have to recall him?

[BurnleyFC]

It’s a shame we didn’t give Wells a chance instead of spunking a load of cash on daddy long legs’ wages.

Still, Nahki has never been to a Kasabian concert with Dyche unlike Crouch, so that explains that.

[fidelcastro]

If we are a striker down and we don’t bring in another one surely we’d have to recall him?

Season long lone, isn't it?

Therefore, I don't think we can.

[IanMcL]

Sd has said there is always a recall clause, on all season loans. Protection for all parties.

[beddie]

The only issue I have with him returning is that from what I've seen of QPR they play a completely different style to us and Wells suffers with long ball tactics.

[fidelcastro]

It’s a shame we didn’t give Wells a chance instead of spunking a load of cash on daddy long legs’ wages.

Still, Nahki has never been to a Kasabian concert with Dyche unlike Crouch, so that explains that.

I see Wells is the latest player to become a superstar when not playing (at least not for us).

[FactualFrank]

I just text my mate... I see our striker scored against you today!

The reply came... You mean hand balled it in. Cheating git.

[Vegas Claret]

I just text my mate... I see our striker scored against you today!

The reply came... You mean hand balled it in. Cheating git.

even better

[BurnleyFC]

I see Wells is the latest player to become a superstar when not playing (at least not for us).

We’d never know. He’s the latest in a long line of players signed but never played.

[Bordeauxclaret]

Season long lone, isn't it?

Therefore, I don't think we can.

Believe Dyche said the option is there.

We are (as we’d expect 9 times out of 10) in a relegation battle. If we are striker down on what we planned I can’t see the benefit of having a striker out at another club.

[Jakubs Tash]

I see Wells is the latest player to become a superstar when not playing (at least not for us).

Wells up front with Vydra for the rest of the season with Koiki thrown in and we definitely finish 7th!

[dougcollins]

I see Wells is the latest player to become a superstar when not playing (at least not for us).

Yes, that's the easiest reply when you don't want to change anything.

[MrTopTier]

Wells is a good player in the Championship. So are Juke and Bamford, Vydra also.
We play in the Premier League if any of them had been any good they would either still be at Burnley or playing regularly in the Premier league. Andre Gray has been mentioned elsewhere as well.
All good players but just not good enough for the Premier League.

[Blackrod]

Haven’t read the full thread but I thought Wells looked ok in the brief cameos I saw. More so than Vydra really. I may have missed any poor showing if away. Perhaps he should have had more of a chance.

[fidelcastro]

Yes, that's the easiest reply when you don't want to change anything.

Who says I don't want to change anything?

I'd love nothing more than a striker to come in and fire the goals that keep us up.

Sadly, and with the best will in the world, I don't believe that the solution is Nahki Wells!

Hardly a controversial view.

[Vegas Claret]

Wells is a decent Championship striker and that's it

[boatshed bill]

Wells is a decent Championship striker and that's it

So basically the same as Barnes, Vokes, Wood, Rodriguez, and Vydra when we signed them?

[Top Claret]

Watched him on the box the other week at Brentford, he was rubbish.

Not good enough for us and certainly not the Premier league

[JohnMac]

Wells is okay at Championship level but he just hasn't shown anything to suggest he is good enough to step up.

[SGr]

He is rubbish, that’s why. I reckon people on here could score the odd goal for QPR with their style of play and the quality of Eberechi Eze behind them. It’s non-stop chance creation.

[SGr]

For what it’s worth, Vydra isn’t adjudged to be good enough, and he’d have many many more in that QPR team than Wells does right now. Time to write that signing off for good.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Wells up front with Vydra for the rest of the season with Koiki thrown in and we definitely finish 7th!

Was hoping the recall would be done this afternoon to enable this to happen. Anyone know the cut off point as suppose it could have happened behind the scenes.

[Vegas Claret]

So basically the same as Barnes, Vokes, Wood, Rodriguez, and Vydra when we signed them?

spot the pattern lol

I don't think any of us could have foreseen the goal input from Barnes at PL level

[Hopey1786]

Barnes and wood are championship strikers doin well in the prem

[durhamclaret]

Well done agent Wells
Leeds to implode again haha
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[BurnleyFC]

Wells is a good player in the Championship. So are Juke and Bamford, Vydra also.
We play in the Premier League if any of them had been any good they would either still be at Burnley or playing regularly in the Premier league. Andre Gray has been mentioned elsewhere as well.
All good players but just not good enough for the Premier League.

Your logic is flawed because Dyche signed every single one of the players you’ve mentioned.

If he didn’t think they were good enough, then why the hell bother?

[MrTopTier]

Flawed logic ha, ha. The perennial of every football fan.
Dyche did sign them all. Perhaps he thought they would be good enough, they were scouted watched and analysed before they signed. Then watched, trained and analysed on a daily basis. Sometimes signings work sometimes they don’t. Those didn’t, plenty of others have.
That’s football.

[dermotdermot]

I'd get him back but he might not want to come. If Wood and/or Rodriguez get injured, we are buggered.

[dougcollins]

I'd get him back but he might not want to come. If Wood and/or Rodriguez get injured, we are buggered.

Unfortunately, I kind of feel we're already there. You never know, doing the same thing over and over again with the same results may throw up something different.

[Rileybobs]

Barnes and wood are championship strikers doin well in the prem

They’re not. They are both proven Premier League strikers.

[BurnleyFC]

Flawed logic ha, ha. The perennial of every football fan.
Dyche did sign them all. Perhaps he thought they would be good enough, they were scouted watched and analysed before they signed. Then watched, trained and analysed on a daily basis. Sometimes signings work sometimes they don’t. Those didn’t, plenty of others have.
That’s football.

Add Hennings and Vossen to that list as well.

The fact is, for how good Dyche has been for us, his purchasing of strikers has been fairly suspect.

[Rileybobs]

Add Hennings and Vossen to that list as well.

The fact is, for how good Dyche has been for us, his purchasing of strikers has been fairly suspect.

It’s been hit and miss, as are all manager’s signings but not exactly suspect. He signed Gray who finished the season the Championship’s Player of the Year and top scorer. He also signed Wood who has had a good return in his time with us.

[Jakubs Tash]

Was hoping the recall would be done this afternoon to enable this to happen. Anyone know the cut off point as suppose it could have happened behind the scenes.

Even better, why don't we put Koiki at right back? I know he's a left back and I've never seen him play but I always read he does well for the u23's...

[Bordeauxclaret]

I don’t think anyone’s suggesting throwing Wells in but we seem to want a squad with four strikers, currently we have three.
We don’t appear to be able/want to sign another so perhaps one we already own could fill the gap.

I realise we don’t tend to just throw strikers on but who knows with injuries.

[Burnley1989]

Wow

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Even better, why don't we put Koiki at right back? I know he's a left back and I've never seen him play but I always read he does well for the u23's...

Not a bad shout with Lowton being so poor though he could maybe slot in on the right wing Would have liked to see Benson given a chance tomorrow as well surprised we loaned him to Grimsby hopefully we’ve got a recall option.

[KRBFC]

I don’t think Wells was ever going to be good enough and it’s turned out he was a horrendous signing and spectacular waste of resources

BUT

would he really have been much worse than Barnes has been over the last 2 months?

I actually really like the way he’s been happy to drop a division and join a pretty average QPR side just to play games. The one biggest gripe for me though is we have spent £6-10M on this guy and not even given him a chance? Like what was the point? At least give him a run in the side and let’s see why we targeted him maybe he would do well for us.

I said in the summer I’d have been quite happy with Wells staying here to see what he’s got to offer. At least with Jutkiewicz and Sordell they had game time for us all to see they were sh**e, Vydra and Wells haven’t even had that.

With Barnes now out, I hope we have a recall option on the loan and bring him back to give him a chance.

[Bosscat]

Even better, why don't we put Koiki at right back? I know he's a left back and I've never seen him play but I always read he does well for the u23's...

I have seen Koiki play and right back is definitely not a position to play him predominantly left back, left centre or left wing but never a right back

[Jakubs Tash]

I have seen Koiki play and right back is definitely not a position to play him predominantly left back, left centre or left wing but never a right back

I've seen him a few times...... It was my poor attempt of sarcasm.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

I don’t think Wells was ever going to be good enough and it’s turned out he was a horrendous signing and spectacular waste of resources

BUT

would he really have been much worse than Barnes has been over the last 2 months?

I actually really like the way he’s been happy to drop a division and join a pretty average QPR side just to play games. The one biggest gripe for me though is we have spent £6-10M on this guy and not even given him a chance? Like what was the point? At least give him a run in the side and let’s see why we targeted him maybe he would do well for us.

I said in the summer I’d have been quite happy with Wells staying here to see what he’s got to offer. At least with Jutkiewicz and Sordell they had game time for us all to see they were sh**e, Vydra and Wells haven’t even had that.

With Barnes now out, I hope we have a recall option on the loan and bring him back to give him a chance.

And I’m sure if we recalled him, played in and it turns out he is tripe and we go down that you would give Dyche your full support.......

[FCBurnley]

How long is Barnes expected to be out Hernia is not a big deal these days but 3-4 weeks as a guess

[tim_noone]

They’re not. They are both proven Premier League strikers.

With plenty of game time...that could Be key for Vydra and Wells.....