Our last sweeper?
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Our last sweeper?
Simple question - who was the last player to play for us at sweeper, or rather to start the game in that position?
Incidentally, for anyone under the age of about 30, a sweeper is an outfield player who traditionally plays just behind a back four!
Incidentally, for anyone under the age of about 30, a sweeper is an outfield player who traditionally plays just behind a back four!
Re: Our last sweeper?
Didn't Waddle try playing himself there the odd game?fidelcastro wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:04 pmSimple question - who was the last player to play for us at sweeper, or rather to start the game in that position?
Incidentally, for anyone under the age of about 30, a sweeper is an outfield player who traditionally plays just behind a back four!
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Re: Our last sweeper?
Didn’t Chris Waddle play sweeper for us in the ‘90s?
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Has had 17 new heads and 14 new handles...
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Re: Our last sweeper?
Yes. I'm struggling to think of one since Waddle.
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Look at the photo if you don't believe me.
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I can’t remember the last time I saw any team playing with a sweeper, let alone Burnley.
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I remember chatting to someone at Towneley Golf Club and we were discussing the Sweeper and Anchorman roles. This must have been mid 00s, so going back 15 years.
He seemed to think that the Sweeper played behind the midfield. I told him, "That's the anchorman" but he wasn't having any of it.
He seemed to think that the Sweeper played behind the midfield. I told him, "That's the anchorman" but he wasn't having any of it.
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Re: Our last sweeper?
Leighton James played sweeper (badly) at Hartlepool several years ago. Think what progress we have made.
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I'm sure Waddle was great there until he had to run.
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Didn't Waddle start out as a sweeper... Sweeper up at a Sausage factory
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Re: Our last sweeper?
Rocket Ron BurgundyFactualFrank wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:15 pmI remember chatting to someone at Towneley Golf Club and we were discussing the Sweeper and Anchorman roles. This must have been mid 00s, so going back 15 years.
He seemed to think that the Sweeper played behind the midfield. I told him, "That's the anchorman" but he wasn't having any of it.
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Re: Our last sweeper?
Charlie Taylor today won a header in the sweeper role today that almost certainly stopped Leicester scoring as it would have been 3 against Nick Pope
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Beckenbauer perfected it then teams sussed if you put a player up on the sweeper it trumped the guy playing there. Times change.
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The last time we played 3/5 at the back was when we had the 'Holy Trinity' of Davis, Thomas and Cox. Can't remember who the spare man of the 3 was, though....
That was some trio of defenders by the way. No wonder we went up with those at the back, Little creating and Payton and Cooke up front!
That was some trio of defenders by the way. No wonder we went up with those at the back, Little creating and Payton and Cooke up front!
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Martin Dobson. Legend.
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Re: Our last sweeper?
You beat me to it. Martin Dobson. I'm sure that he was deployed as a sweeper at some stage late in his career.
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Re: Our last sweeper?
In today's game, I'd expect the sweeper role to be more a hindrance than a help with how the offside rule has been messed about.
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Re: Our last sweeper?
Dobbo played sweeper in the Third Division Champions team
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As Martin Dodson came to the end of his career he played this role-and he was brilliant at it. Its a very rare "trade" today. John McGreal played a similar role. Both these guys read the game so well
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Leighton James in Div 4.
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I suppose the next logical question has to be....Who was the first Burnley player to operate in the sweeper role for a number of games ?.....Anyone?
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Re: Our last sweeper?
I'm more of a libero than a sweeper tbh.
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To be fair, quoonbeatz, your dad Ken was more than adequate in the sweeper role.
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Re: Our last sweeper?
I'd love the sweeper/libero to make a return in the game. It's a position that was being phased out when I was growing up watching football back in the 90's.
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He was still doing it til he was about 50, albeit on a 5 a side pitchRoyboyclaret wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:53 pmTo be fair, quoonbeatz, your dad Ken was more than adequate in the sweeper role.
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Arthur Bellamy was the First i can recall playing as a sweeper.Royboyclaret wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:47 pmI suppose the next logical question has to be....Who was the first Burnley player to operate in the sweeper role for a number of games ?.....Anyone?
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Has to be Arthur. Remember our first poor attempt at Leicester in 1966'67, think we lost the game 1-5.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:00 pmArthur Bellamy was the First i can recall playing as a sweeper.
But persevered with Bellamy who was pretty good in the position.
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Re: Our last sweeper?
Thought we played Alexander there a couple of times.
Could well be wrong though.
What a player he was for Burnley.
Could well be wrong though.
What a player he was for Burnley.
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Leicester is the one I remember. My first visit to Filbert Street and it did. finish 1-5.Royboyclaret wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:03 pmHas to be Arthur. Remember our first poor attempt at Leicester in 1966'67, think we lost the game 1-5.
But persevered with Bellamy who was pretty good in the position.
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We played him ahead of the defence and behind the midfield. Not the sweeper role.Burnleyareback2 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:06 pmThought we played Alexander there a couple of times.
Could well be wrong though.
What a player he was for Burnley.
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Re: Our last sweeper?
Another was Tommy Hutchison
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Re: Our last sweeper?
Beresford was a great sweeper keeper.
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He really wasn't.
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Re: Our last sweeper?
Did sweeper not give way to 3 centre backs? Pretty much the same thing - intended to allow full backs to push on.
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Ashley Westwood has played behind the back 4 for the last two seasons.
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Re: Our last sweeper?
Marco Gentile
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As others have mentioned, Dobbo did it well behind the young Phelan and Overson. Didn't David Miller have a go at it too?
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Dobbo played there in 1981/82 season after we'd lost 6 of the first 8 games. With Stevenson in goal, he added some experience at the back given the back four were all teenagers - Brian Laws, Vince Overson, Micky Phelan and Andy Wharton. Similarly, we had two teenagers in midfield with Trevor Steven and Kevin Young and Tommy Cassidy providing the experience for them.
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Exactly what I was thinking. Isn't it a position that has gone completely out of fashion anyway these days? The nearest thing I think these days is when a team plays 5 at the back and one player does tend to stay pretty much in the centre back position. Not a sweeper as such but playing a similar role so to speak. A cleaner upper.
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Aah, the Italian killing machine. Keegan once said of him that he was stood at the side of him at an awards ceremony once and it was the only time he didn't kick him when he was within 2 yards. A bit of a beast but a very good footballer for all that. Once described as the most ill-named player ever.
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houseboy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:47 amAah, the Italian killing machine. Keegan once said of him that he was stood at the side of him at an awards ceremony once and it was the only time he didn't kick him when he was within 2 yards. A bit of a beast but a very good footballer for all that. Once described as the most ill-named player ever.
I thought he was Dutch.
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No. He was born in Libya but played all his life in Italy and played for them in two world cups, including the 1982 winning side. Played the bulk of his career with Juventus. Dutch? He came to represent all that was good and bad with Italian football at the time. Great player and reader of the ball but an absolute animal.
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Re: Our last sweeper?
I'm talking about the player who played for Burnley (albeit very briefly) in the 1990's.houseboy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:43 pmNo. He was born in Libya but played all his life in Italy and played for them in two world cups, including the 1982 winning side. Played the bulk of his career with Juventus. Dutch? He came to represent all that was good and bad with Italian football at the time. Great player and reader of the ball but an absolute animal.
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Hilarious
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For some reason, houseboy has decided to give us the lowdown on CLAUDIO Gentile... who certainly didn't play for Burnley.
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You’re right Fidel. This is all Houseboy’s fault for getting his Marcos and his Claudios mixed up.