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Post by Steddyman » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:30 pm

Holtyclaret wrote:
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No, bizarrely it means I thought something was funny. Obviously a little over excited at the thought of a signing. Spat my drink out when I heard it, I’d given up for the day.
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Post by Bigvince » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:30 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:29 pm
Multiple people tweeting they've just seen it on Sky Sports.
They’re all the same person with multiple user names :lol:
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Post by Bigvince » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:37 pm

Oh good that means every other struggling premier league club will have the chance to gazump us :(

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Post by Granny WeatherWax » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:37 pm

Bigvince wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:37 pm
Oh good that means every other struggling premier league club will have the chance to gazump us :(
They want Wells though.

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Post by Bigvince » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:40 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:37 pm
They want Wells though.
I hope you’re right and that swings it for us, but if they offer more money anything could happen

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Post by clarethomer » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:41 pm

creepingdeath wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:28 pm
21:26
BURNLEY CLOSING ON BROWNHILL

Burnley are close to agreeing a deal to sign Bristol City's Josh Brownhill.
https://www.skysports.com/transfer-centre

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Post by Bigvince » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:42 pm

You don’t always know before until after,what’s least likely to happen the most :D
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Post by Jakubclaret » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:54 pm

Sleeping Cat wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 4:06 pm
Sorry Jakubclaret, a release clause is contractual. If someone meet it, the player is free to discuss terms with that club. if two clubs meet the release clause then it's down to the player to decide who he prefers by the contract on the table.
I'm sorry did I suggest any different? Ultimately it's down to the player to decide for himself in the aforementioned event, say for example again - forest offer 2 million & fulham offer 3 million for the same player & the release clause is set at 2 million triggering the allowance of 2 interested clubs to enter into negotiations with the player, the player is from Middlesbrough established himself through the academy into the first team, do you not think it's likely Steve Gibson or somebody else representing him would be encouraging the player to go with the highest bidder regardless of the players agent possibly advising otherwise, I think you & some others seriously underestimate the power of money & the influence it carries, contracts are circumvented & not honoured money as more clout.

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Post by ClaretMov » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:54 pm

And Wells first game for Bristol City.....against QPR away :lol: :lol:

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Post by dermotdermot » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:58 pm

There must be something in this. Why would we go to all this trouble in recalling Wells so that he could go to Bristol unless there had been some sort of arrangement agreed?

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Post by Iloveyoubrady » Wed Jan 29, 2020 10:04 pm

This could work out. In this market wells is worth more than we paid. Next season we can loan out Vydra and he could definitely score plenty of goals in the championship, as we know he is a very good player at that level, making him worth as much as we paid. Also Gibson has probably retained value well as a good left footed centre back, as shown by Watford’s interest.

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Post by burnleysteve » Wed Jan 29, 2020 10:07 pm

got to be worth a cheeky tenner on wells to score IF it all goes through
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Post by TVC15 » Wed Jan 29, 2020 10:09 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:54 pm
I'm sorry did I suggest any different? Ultimately it's down to the player to decide for himself in the aforementioned event, say for example again - forest offer 2 million & fulham offer 3 million for the same player & the release clause is set at 2 million triggering the allowance of 2 interested clubs to enter into negotiations with the player, the player is from Middlesbrough established himself through the academy into the first team, do you not think it's likely Steve Gibson or somebody else representing him would be encouraging the player to go with the highest bidder regardless of the players agent possibly advising otherwise, I think you & some others seriously underestimate the power of money & the influence it carries, contracts are circumvented & not honoured money as more clout.
Tbh you are having a mare here Jakub.
Tell me one example of what you are saying actually happening.
As soon as a club finds out the details of a release clause they will not bid a penny more. Everything is then down to what is put on the table to the player and which of the interested clubs a player wants to go to.
It really is that simple.
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Post by Rileybobs » Wed Jan 29, 2020 10:10 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:54 pm
I'm sorry did I suggest any different? Ultimately it's down to the player to decide for himself in the aforementioned event, say for example again - forest offer 2 million & fulham offer 3 million for the same player & the release clause is set at 2 million triggering the allowance of 2 interested clubs to enter into negotiations with the player, the player is from Middlesbrough established himself through the academy into the first team, do you not think it's likely Steve Gibson or somebody else representing him would be encouraging the player to go with the highest bidder regardless of the players agent possibly advising otherwise, I think you & some others seriously underestimate the power of money & the influence it carries, contracts are circumvented & not honoured money as more clout.
Fulham wouldn’t offer £3m because once they have offered £2m they have met the required transfer fee and can move on to negotiations with the player. It’s really not difficult to understand.

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Post by Jakubclaret » Wed Jan 29, 2020 10:23 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 10:10 pm
Fulham wouldn’t offer £3m because once they have offered £2m they have met the required transfer fee and can move on to negotiations with the player. It’s really not difficult to understand.
It was merely a example, a rarity within itself such events happening wasn’t supposed to taken so literal, if the player was highly sought after sparking a bidding war such happenings would be applicable, but you are correct when the required limit as been met negotiations could take place regardless of any other club trumping the set amount, club to club understandings probably encourage higher bids in order to pass the line, gilding the lily as a hazy metaphor, cherry on the top however descriptive you use words.

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Post by IanMcL » Wed Jan 29, 2020 10:27 pm

So....Brownhill has a £7m release but it doesn't apply until the summer, allegedly. Bristol want more...couple of Mill perhaps.

Bristol also want Nahki Wells....valued at £7m.

However, anything over £5m we have to pay a chunk to Huddersfield.

Outcome:
Brownhill to Burnley £7m
Wells to Bristol £5m

Bristol get their couple of million. We get a player for £7m so good deal, as it is really only £2m because we receive our fee paid for Wells and save his wages.
Huddersfield get nothing.
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Post by Jakubclaret » Wed Jan 29, 2020 10:38 pm

TVC15 wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 10:09 pm
Tbh you are having a mare here Jakub.
Tell me one example of what you are saying actually happening.
As soon as a club finds out the details of a release clause they will not bid a penny more. Everything is then down to what is put on the table to the player and which of the interested clubs a player wants to go to.
It really is that simple.
You will not find examples as such, it’s not something that’s in the public domain, it’s common knowledge football by & large the higher up you go is a corrupt sport with crooked agents etc, by all means be in denial that everything’s rosy in the garden doesn’t bother me I’ll still sleep tonight, on that apt note, night.

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Post by jurek » Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:03 pm

No doubt all will be revealed tomorrow or Friday.
Can't see us selling Wells to Bristol without negotiating
for Brownhill to come to us even though apparently we haven't
accepted Bristol's current valuation (10m).


We need some fresh blood in and if Wells isn't going to feature for us
then we surely must go for Brownhill.

It's not as if we're going to be shelling out big time and
doubt if Brownhill will be on the top of our salary levels or on as much as
Wells is rumoured to be on.

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Post by TVC15 » Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:05 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 10:38 pm
You will not find examples as such, it’s not something that’s in the public domain, it’s common knowledge football by & large the higher up you go is a corrupt sport with crooked agents etc, by all means be in denial that everything’s rosy in the garden doesn’t bother me I’ll still sleep tonight, on that apt note, night.
I totally agree football is corrupt.
But that has got nothing to do whatsoever with the daft argument you are making....you do realise that transfer fees are included in accounts ?....in the public domain.
The ONLY reason you will not find any examples of what you are saying is because it’s never happened.
Lots of people in football are corrupt but there are not any agents out there who are stupid enough to allow the club the player is leaving to benefit at the cost of their client. What would be the point of release clauses ?

Hopefully a good nights sleep will bring you to your senses !!
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Post by Zlatan » Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:54 pm

close enough...
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Post by Wile E Coyote » Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:16 am

this has been almost 40 pages of nothing

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Post by Taffy on the wing » Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:13 am

ALL IS DROSS!

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Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Jan 30, 2020 6:13 am

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Post by BFCmaj » Thu Jan 30, 2020 6:27 am

Wile E Coyote wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:16 am
this has been almost 40 pages of nothing
The Adeola Friday thread is probably more informative.

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Post by 1HappyClaret » Thu Jan 30, 2020 6:28 am

Daily Mail now claiming deal is close for Brownhill as well as Kaveh Solhekol

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... nhill.html

https://twitter.com/skykaveh/status/122 ... 24420?s=21

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Post by FactualFrank » Thu Jan 30, 2020 6:41 am

1HappyClaret wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 6:28 am
Daily Mail now claiming deal is close for Brownhill as well as Kaveh Solhekol
We're signing a Sky News reporter?
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Post by Little_britton » Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:00 am

FactualFrank wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 6:41 am
We're signing a Sky News reporter?
Looks like it, think he plays inscribe right :D
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Post by jtv » Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:11 am

Or possibly inscribe write?
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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:50 am

ClaretAndJew wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:28 pm
I love getting sat down in the James Hargreaves Lower with my £4 chocolate bar and £13 Bovril to stand and cheer the interest in the bank going up each minute.

Increase, increase, increase increase increase!

Check yer balances for the lads!
Thought you said you had stopped going on ?

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Post by Nonayforever » Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:42 am

Sky now reporting Wells having a medical after agreeing just under £4 million move

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Post by THEWELLERNUT70 » Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:44 am

Wells goes to Brizzle for £4 million

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Post by NewClaret » Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:48 am

THEWELLERNUT70 wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:44 am
Wells goes to Brizzle for £4 million
If Wells has gone for £4m we’d better not be paying £10m for Brownhill.

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Post by Bigvince » Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:53 am

NewClaret wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:48 am
If Wells has gone for £4m we’d better not be paying £10m for Brownhill.
Don’t worry we won’t be paying 10 million!



He probably won’t be coming :D

Hopefully he will tho

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Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:04 am

Sky says just less than 4 million for Wells

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Post by Devils_Advocate » Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:04 am

NewClaret wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:48 am
If Wells has gone for £4m we’d better not be paying £10m for Brownhill.
Why? If Brownhil does have the potential to grow in to a good Prem League player then surely he has a lot more value than a 29 year old 1 in 3 Championship standard striker.

If we have got £4m for Wells that is great business by the club
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Post by Grimsdale » Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:06 am

Craig Hope from the Mail saying:
Understand Bristol City midfielder Josh Brownhill is undergoing medical at Burnley today ahead of move worth up to £10m.

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Post by creepingdeath » Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:12 am

Waiting for the first “anyone else underwhelmed by this brownhill signing”......

Who’s your money on?

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Post by Devils_Advocate » Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:14 am

Waiting for the fist poster to try and use a signing to have a go at any fans who dare to be critical of the club.......oh!
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Post by Steddyman » Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:22 am

A done deal according to TeamTalk. I’ll believe it when BFC confirm it.

https://www.teamtalk.com/news/exclusive ... ls-departs

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Post by Bigvince » Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:22 am

Sky just announced brownhill having a medical

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Post by ClaretAndJew » Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:25 am

Just seen on Twitter the deal is worth up to 10 million.

Surely we've used Wells in this deal.

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Post by d[-_-]b » Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:29 am

ClaretAndJew wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:25 am
Just seen on Twitter the deal is worth up to 10 million.

Surely we've used Wells in this deal.
You can say Wells + 6Million if you'd prefer.

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Post by claretspice » Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:36 am

ClaretAndJew wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:25 am
Just seen on Twitter the deal is worth up to 10 million.

Surely we've used Wells in this deal.
If it comes off - not there yet- then of course we will have done. It doesn't take Sherlock to see weve compromised on Wells' value - to release the deal for Brownhill, and in the process effectively shared between BFC and BCFC the value that would have otherwise gone to Huddersfield under their sell on. "Up to" 10m for Brownhill presumably means significantly less up front with the balance depending on appearances, survival etc. It all sounds like good business to me.

Time will tell but my hunch is that if it gets done, we will be getting a good player, at a good age and with proven leadership qualities. He appears to be a central midfielder foremost but very capable on the right hand side too. That's all very pleasing and a decent start to the rebuilding job we need to begin undertaking (and which is arguably overdue).
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Post by IanMcL » Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:38 am

Hendrick won't sign now!

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Post by JohnDearyMe » Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:58 am

claretspice wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:36 am
If it comes off - not there yet- then of course we will have done. It doesn't take Sherlock to see weve compromised on Wells' value - to release the deal for Brownhill, and in the process effectively shared between BFC and BCFC the value that would have otherwise gone to Huddersfield under their sell on. "Up to" 10m for Brownhill presumably means significantly less up front with the balance depending on appearances, survival etc. It all sounds like good business to me.

Time will tell but my hunch is that if it gets done, we will be getting a good player, at a good age and with proven leadership qualities. He appears to be a central midfielder foremost but very capable on the right hand side too. That's all very pleasing and a decent start to the rebuilding job we need to begin undertaking (and which is arguably overdue).
Definitely, good to see a younger well regarded player coming in. Will be good to have a viable centre midfield alternative after the Drinkwater debacle too and it will hopefully help Cork and Westwood up their game.

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Post by BOYSIE31 » Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:59 am

Cant believe we are getting 4 million for Wells to be honest - thats a good deal
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Post by Cubanclaret » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:24 am

Agree with Spice on this, seems to be a good fit and for good value overall.
Dyche will know what he's getting and it doesn't seem to be a case of a player acquired out of desperation which you could argue was certainly the case with Vydra and Drinkwater. Gibson, perhaps less so, I personally think he's just been a bit unlucky. If being behind the club captain and our best player wasn't tough enough, when there have been injuries to those two, he's often been injured himself.
There's plenty midfielders made the step up to the PL in recent seasons - just look at the likes of players we missed out on like McArthur and McCarthy who have gone to be established at this level - and more recently Norwood, Fleck and Lundstram at Sheffield United.
Don't think it necessarily means an exit for Hendrick - but might give us flexibility to play as a 4-3-3 when the situation demands.

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Post by Jakubs Tash » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:40 am

I wonder if our recruitment team will get any credit for this deal (should it happen)?

Midfielder.
Good age.
Leader.
The foresight to replace Hendrick before he most probably leaves.
Using Wells whilst his stock is high as a make-weight to encourage Bristol City to deal.
Selling Wells at a value that means we don't have to pay anything to Huddersfield.

I'm not saying that our recruitment is amazing and that we don't require any further additions....but maybe they have done well on this deal.
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