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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:16 pm

Chris Wilder and his team. Take a bow. What an incredible effort. Today’s victory probably sees them safe.

But more than that with the belief they have who knows where they could finish.

Now fifth and they don’t look like stopping. They remind me of us under Coyle with the confidence and lack of respect they have for anyone they face.

I thought when wilder laid into the keeper after the Liverpool defeat in September it would unravel them. But far from it. Shows the high standards he sets and the belief he has in his players.

If they finish where they are now or higher has to be one of footballs true fairy tales. Sheff Utd fan taking over at league one level after the struggles they had and then the ched Evans saga. He’s done an unbelievable job.

I was never fond of Sheff Utd but credit to them all. Brilliant for them.
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Re: Sheff Utd

Post by tim_noone » Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:19 pm

One season wonders...

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Post by Tricky Trevor » Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:23 pm

I’ve had a soft spot for them after they were relegated by the ManU/WHU/Tevez stitch up.

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Re: Sheff Utd

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:25 pm

It used to be Bournemouth.

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Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:29 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:16 pm
Chris Wilder and his team. Take a bow. What an incredible effort. Today’s victory probably sees them safe.

But more than that with the belief they have who knows where they could finish.

Now fifth and they don’t look like stopping. They remind me of us under Coyle with the confidence and lack of respect they have for anyone they face.

I thought when wilder laid into the keeper after the Liverpool defeat in September it would unravel them. But far from it. Shows the high standards he sets and the belief he has in his players.

If they finish where they are now or higher has to be one of footballs true fairy tales. Sheff Utd fan taking over at league one level after the struggles they had and then the ched Evans saga. He’s done an unbelievable job.

I was never fond of Sheff Utd but credit to them all. Brilliant for them.
Their away performances don’t remind me of us under Coyle in the Premier League!
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Re: Sheff Utd

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:29 pm

tim_noone wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:19 pm
One season wonders...
Perhaps. But even so what a season.

But their form ever since wilder came in suggests not.

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Post by ksrclaret » Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:30 pm

Something about rich foreign owners, lots of debt, FFP, Leeds/ Portsmouth/ Bolton, they didn't pay for their own stadium etc etc

Now we've got that out of the way, yes it's been a fabulous season for Sheff Utd. Way beyond anybody's expectations. Their manager is their greatest asset. A unique formation with some innovative tactical ideas. All with lower league players too. He's now earning the right to take things forward now with the acquisition of some more expensive players. Their board appear to want to back him.

They have been a welcome addition to the PL.

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Post by tarkys_ears » Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:31 pm

******* scumbags at Wembley. Hope they go down. Horrible team full of **** supporters. File next to Leeds and Reading.

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Post by tim_noone » Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:32 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:29 pm
Perhaps. But even so what a season.

But their form ever since wilder came in suggests not.
Give me Sean Dyche over gene any day.

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Post by FactualFrank » Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:32 pm

I don't see them as one season wonders.

Sure, they have more money than us and that will be a significant reason why they'll finish above us, but they're no heavyweights compared to teams who I think will finish below them.

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Post by tim_noone » Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:33 pm

tarkys_ears wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:31 pm
******* scumbags at Wembley. Hope they go down. Horrible team full of **** supporters. File next to Leeds and Reading.
Good spot...or post even.
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Re: Sheff Utd

Post by TheFamilyCat » Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:34 pm

Doing very well, also taking advantage of half the 'big six' stuttering. After 25 games last season, 5th place had 48 points.

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Post by FactualFrank » Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:36 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:34 pm
Doing very well, also taking advantage of half the 'big six' stuttering. After 25 games last season, 5th place had 48 points.
A big reason for that - Liverpool. They are taking points off everybody.

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Post by Rileybobs » Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:37 pm

Having a great season and showing that less talented players who are well coached and disciplined can outperform teams of ‘superstars’. Hard not to respect that as a Burnley fan.
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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:38 pm

Makes me laugh. Every time some team does well ‘ah but they’ve got rich owners’ ‘ah but they didn’t do this and did do that’

Credit where it’s due.

As for rich owners. Until this window they’ve barely spent much anyway.

They’ve spent less than pretty much every team below them.
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Re: Sheff Utd

Post by John Johnson 1605 » Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:40 pm

Media Darlings, even more so now Howe’s crown has slipped.

There are 60 million reason why Wilder’s done well.

As for their fans absolute disgusting at the Play Off Final.
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Re: Sheff Utd

Post by ksrclaret » Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:40 pm

John Johnson 1605 wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:40 pm
Media Darlings, even more so now Howe’s crown has slipped.

There are 60 million reason why Wilder’s dome well.

As for their fans absolute disgusting at the Play Off Final.
What were you saying just then CFC? :D

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Post by duncandisorderly » Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:41 pm

I thought their fans were reyt at the play off final?!

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Post by FactualFrank » Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:42 pm

duncandisorderly wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:41 pm
I thought their fans were reyt at the play off final?!
I never agree with this guy, but I was thinking the same thing.

They knew they were beat and just... well... went home.

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Post by tarkys_ears » Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:42 pm

duncandisorderly wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:41 pm
I thought their fans were reyt at the play off final?!
Cocky before. Bad losers after.

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Post by PremierLeagueClass » Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:49 pm

If we win tomorrow we’re only 3 points behind them... they’re doing well but it’s nothing out the ordinary. As others have said, it’s a strange season with many teams struggling, we could be above them in less than a month. Nothing remarkable about their points tally.

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Post by FactualFrank » Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:51 pm

PremierLeagueClass wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:49 pm
If we win tomorrow we’re only 3 points behind them... they’re doing well but it’s nothing out the ordinary. As others have said, it’s a strange season with many teams struggling, we could be above them in less than a month. Nothing remarkable about their points tally.
Like I say, Liverpool have drawn 1 game and won all the rest. This is a major reason why it's so close between the majority of the rest. We're all losing points to them.

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Post by Devils_Advocate » Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:56 pm

John Johnson 1605 wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:40 pm
Media Darlings, even more so now Howe’s crown has slipped.

There are 60 million reason why Wilder’s done well.

As for their fans absolute disgusting at the Play Off Final.
Burnley spent around £40m in the 16/17 season so with the way transfer fees have rocketed the last 3 years Sheff Utd havent spent much more than us

Then consider how they have come from League 1 and hardly spent owt in the last 3 years compared to Burnley being in the Prem League and how much we spent

And with all that Sheff Utd are challenging for Europe playing great football whilst we battled our way to survival

Considering we rightly though Dyche keeping us up was one hell of an achievement I think Wilder has earned all the plaudits and its no wonder the media are gushing with deserved praise for the team and club
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Re: Sheff Utd

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:57 pm

Having an unbelievable season.

We could be 3 points behind them tomorrow.
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Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:58 pm

tim_noone wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:19 pm
One season wonders...
Huddersfield started off so well against their opponents today, enough said!

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Post by FactualFrank » Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:59 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:57 pm
Having an unbelievable season.

We could be 3 points behind them tomorrow.
I was thinking this recently. I think it's because they are playing so much better football, that we subconsciously think they are so much better than us and are so far ahead. Yet, like you say, with points there's not much between us at all.

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Post by FactualFrank » Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:00 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:58 pm
Huddersfield started off so well against their opponents today, enough said!
You think Sheffield United will drop back down next season?

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Post by Devils_Advocate » Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:00 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:57 pm
Having an unbelievable season.

We could be 3 points behind them tomorrow.
Did you not think 17/18 was an unbelievable season for us cos they are doing better this season than we we at the same stage in 2018

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Post by FactualFrank » Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:03 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:00 pm
Did you not think 17/18 was an unbelievable season for us cos they are doing better this season than we we at the same stage in 2018
I think he's suggesting that they are doing well, and we can catch them up.

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Post by Devils_Advocate » Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:04 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:03 pm
I think he's suggesting that they are doing well, and we can catch them up.
My bad then, misunderstood completely. Thanks

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Post by LeadBelly » Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:16 pm

Not sure why there's some ill-feeling towards The Blades displayed here. It's nice to see an unfancied team doing well & Sheffield is a proper football city with minimal "plastics" supporting either club. Obviously experiences differ but I had no problems with their fans at the play-off final.
Hope they continue to upset the league positions of the likes of Man U, Spuds & Everton. Hope we beat them 11th April though.
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Post by boatshed bill » Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:19 pm

Is it impossible on here to give another club, and particularly their manager, credit for doing a really good job?
I say hats off to the Blades for having the guts to give it a go.
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Post by Aclaret » Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:19 pm

Never been a fan of Sheff Utd, indeed had some rough times there over the years, but hats off to them, they are having a great season.... up to now.
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Post by tim_noone » Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:21 pm

LeadBelly wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:16 pm
Not sure why there's some ill-feeling towards The Blades displayed here. It's nice to see an unfancied team doing well & Sheffield is a proper football city with minimal "plastics" supporting either club. Obviously experiences differ but I had no problems with their fans at the play-off final.
Hope they continue to upset the league positions of the likes of Man U, Spuds & Everton. Hope we beat them 11th April though.
A long time ago fan violence at their place...and a stabbing at our place. A long time ago as I said.thats my reason.

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Post by IanMcL » Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:25 pm

We are right behind them...

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Post by bobinho » Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:28 pm

Reminiscent of Burnley under Sean Dyche.

Managing a team that’s greater than the sum of its parts.

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:30 pm

John Johnson 1605 wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:40 pm
Media Darlings, even more so now Howe’s crown has slipped.

There are 60 million reason why Wilder’s done well.

As for their fans absolute disgusting at the Play Off Final.
There are also minus 6.5m reasons why they should’ve gone down last season. Not up. That was their net spend on their promotion season.

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Post by Aclaret » Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:30 pm

tim_noone wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:21 pm
A long time ago fan violence at their place...and a stabbing at our place. A long time ago as I said.thats my reason.
Didn't know about "a stabbing at our place" but I remember seeing a Claret who had been stabbed at their place in the late 70s. No segregation in them days and remember it kicking off at HT under the stand.

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:30 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:40 pm
What were you saying just then CFC? :D
Majority of their spend was this week

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:32 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:19 pm
Is it impossible on here to give another club, and particularly their manager, credit for doing a really good job?
I say hats off to the Blades for having the guts to give it a go.
Absolutely. Some bitter old men on here

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Post by tim_noone » Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:00 pm

Aclaret wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:30 pm
Didn't know about "a stabbing at our place" but I remember seeing a Claret who had been stabbed at their place in the late 70s. No segregation in them days and remember it kicking off at HT under the stand.
Earlier...67/8 Brunshaw rd.

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Post by warksclaret » Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:04 pm

I was singing Wilder's and the team's praises on here a few weeks ago and got shot down.I know they have spent more in the past month but generally a team of lower league players. I think its fantastic for British football and the PL that we have teams like Sheffield do well. Let Pep Guardiola manage sides like ourselves and Sheffield and keep them up in the PL with those clubs' budget. I know not everyone is a fan of Wilder and their fans but this Sheffield team are teaching a few other teams how to tackle the giants and beat them. For the cynics on this site if they keep Wilder it will not be a one season wonder
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Post by claretburns » Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:04 pm

Hope they do well and if their success means it puts United, Arsenal etc out of the top 4/6 then all the more for it.

I see some of the mentions about their fans at Wembley, but each club have their fair share of idiots, like some of our "fans" wouldn't have done the same thing after the game if the result wasn't the other way round.
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Post by joey13 » Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:23 pm

Got no time for them , got attacked in the late 70s fortunately I had my brothers and cousins with me , and totally classless at Wembley, although they disappeared quickly after the final whistle.

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Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:36 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:00 pm
You think Sheffield United will drop back down next season?
Not drop down immediately but I think next season midtable to lower & progressively stay or worsen, can't see this season becoming a norm, done amazing so far wish them well, Sheffield is a 2 club city & you'll get pockets supporting Barnsley & Rotherham other South Yorkshire clubs.
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Post by FactualFrank » Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:38 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:36 pm
Not drop down immediately but I think next season midtable to lower & progressively stay or worsen, can't see this season becoming a norm, done amazing so far wish them well, Sheffield is a 2 city club & you'll get pockets supporting Barnsley & Rotherham other South Yorkshire clubs.
I don't think that will be the case at all. I think this season WILL be the norm. They've drawn and lost games they should have won/drawn. Let's not forget that.

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Post by Hibsclaret » Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:41 pm

Every other week we have a thread about them. I think they will still finish bottom half and below us for what it’s worth.

They have done well but they are absolutely nothing like us under Coyle. That’s a ridiculous comparison as they have already achieved far more than we did under Coyle.

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Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:45 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:38 pm
I don't think that will be the case at all. I think this season WILL be the norm. They've drawn and lost games they should have won/drawn. Let's not forget that.
I don't agree, very lucky today with the goal & other occasions lucky but at the same time worked hard & well a spirited side who never give up, we'll see next season nobody can say 100% what will happen in the future. It's pointless arguing now 12 mths on & longer 1 of us will be right, it's good to not agree in some ways.

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Post by boatshed bill » Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:47 pm

In my opinion it is important not to allow past fan scraps to obscure the fact that at the present time Sheffield Utd are going very well under an innovative and somewhat underrated manager.
I got stabbed by an American once, doesn't mean I dislike them all.
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Post by Aclaret » Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:57 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:47 pm
In my opinion it is important not to allow past fan scraps to obscure the fact that at the present time Sheffield Utd are going very well under an innovative and somewhat underrated manager.
I got stabbed by an American once, doesn't mean I dislike them all.
Agree with that boatshed bill, I've had some rough times at Sheff Utd and dreaded going there at times but indeed they are going very well and playing some good football under their excellent manager. Glad your scars have healed too. UTC.
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