Vydra's Suitors
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Got to agree with CT in this one. He’s looked bobbins pretty much whenever he’s played. These things happen. The only reason he hasn’t gone yet is we’re short on numbers overall with Barnes out and JBGs recurring injuries.
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I just don’t understand why we get the reaction (like at Chelsea) when he gets lauded like the 2nd coming of Pele essentially attempting to embarrass the manager....there is clearly something where Dyche believes he is not good enough and that’s fine by me. Not all transfers work out even if a few on here seem to think that should happen...
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Absolutely no point keeping him here.
Putting Kev Long on has put all that to bed, just put him out of his misery.
Christ knows why we bought him in the first place.
Putting Kev Long on has put all that to bed, just put him out of his misery.
Christ knows why we bought him in the first place.
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Not the kid yet.
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So are you then questioning why the manager signed them both ??ClaretTony wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 4:25 pmSince signing last summer, Vydra has played 411 minutes in the Premier League and Gibson has played 63. In all games, Vydra has played 790 minutes while Gibson has played 532.
Vydra has started three Premier League games for us. He played well in the home win against Bournemouth but at Cardiff and West Ham he was dreadful. From what I can see, it's not worked out, I've not seen anything to suggest he's good enough to be honest. It might be the way we play, it might be Dyche, it might be him, but I wouldn't want to see him being named in the team any time soon.
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We’d just gone 1-0 down at Everton late in the game and we had to try something to see if we could get back into it. The idea was to get someone up front who might win a few headers and get some knock downs. With Matt Lowton, Erik Pieters, Danny Drinkwater & Kevin Long the available sunshine who do you suggest we should have brought on? And quite how that relates to Vydra I don’t know.dougcollins wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 9:32 pmAbsolutely no point keeping him here.
Putting Kev Long on has put all that to bed, just put him out of his misery.
Christ knows why we bought him in the first place.
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Granted as one of the worst for auto correct failures on here this is a slightly ironic post. However i do like the term sunshine.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:01 pmWe’d just gone 1-0 down at Everton late in the game and we had to try something to see if we could get back into it. The idea was to get someone up front who might win a few headers and get some knock downs. With Matt Lowton, Erik Pieters, Danny Drinkwater & Kevin Long the available sunshine who do you suggest we should have brought on? And quite how that relates to Vydra I don’t know.
Ballon d’or winner Vydra has built up one hell of a loyal fan base at Burnley and I have absolutely no idea why. Unfortunately I have seen most of his game time and he simply is not up to the standard. To the extent that I would say the Juke contributed more.
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I was on my phone at the timeBurnleyareback2 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:51 pmGranted as one of the worst for auto correct failures on here this is a slightly ironic post. However i do like the term sunshine.
Ballon d’or winner Vydra has built up one hell of a loyal fan base at Burnley and I have absolutely no idea why. Unfortunately I have seen most of his game time and he simply is not up to the standard. To the extent that I would say the Juke contributed more.
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Yeah, I’m normally on my phone or wine when I make my typos!
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I still think he'll get a chance. He's one of 3 strikers when we usually play two and Wood and Rodriguez can both easily pick up knocks or illness.
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Not sure any player who has offered little when given a game has had as much popularity and a demand to be playing.
The bringing Long on instead of him is a weird stance some are still taking even more so when it has been explained why. It isn't that long ago Man City under a former England manager put there goalkeeper up front in the last few minutes to try something different, I bet they have got over it.
The bringing Long on instead of him is a weird stance some are still taking even more so when it has been explained why. It isn't that long ago Man City under a former England manager put there goalkeeper up front in the last few minutes to try something different, I bet they have got over it.
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I don't think it's that he's struggled for football generally, there was always a reasonable chance that his starts would be limited, it's that he's struggled to be an option at any time.claretspice wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:07 pmI think the truth here is that if we have 4 senior strikers, one is always going to struggle for sufficient football unless we have extended cup runs (which can never be guaranteed), and so will feel badly treated.
Vydra will go in the summer, and we don't specifically need to replace him, we just need to make sure that we have enough players capable operating centrally in an emergency, or be comfortable that there's a lad in the development squad who we think is capable of stepping up to the squad in that emergency. I think we might have learned that 22 senior outfield players is a couple too many to keep happy.
When we had two fit strikers he barely played and didn't start. We prefer to change our shape rather than play him. He was behind Crouch last season, even in games like Leicester where the game was crying out for some pace against Morgan we brought on Crouch. This season we've even viewed Kevin Long as a better option.
It may well be that he isn't good enough, most of the brief cameos suggest that is the case but in that case why are we keeping him?
I would agree with you about the 4th striker. Realistically Hendrick has spent more time covering this role than Vydra.
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Yes, I was thinking that we'd decided not to even put him on the bench but it seems he may have been unavailable due to the birth of his child. The point remains though that we generally don't even use him when there are barely any other options. Even when it seemed likely that Drinkwater was leaving us he still got on the bench before Vydra.Jakubs Tash wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 9:14 amI get the general point people are making about Vydra and the fact he rarely gets minutes but Vydra wasnt even on the bench at Everton so people need to stop saying that Long came on before him.
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Having seen the footage of his scoring good goals for Derby, I thought we had at last got another player who could take players on and score goals. Sadly that’s not been the case at Burnley.
While he maybe disappointed he’s not had much chance. I think when he leaves, he will be happy with his very good wages, which probably 50/60 people wouldn’t together earn what he gets a year.
While he maybe disappointed he’s not had much chance. I think when he leaves, he will be happy with his very good wages, which probably 50/60 people wouldn’t together earn what he gets a year.
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