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50 million people over 100 years ago on BBC2 is this scaremongering relating to events in China... Strange time to broadcast By The BBC.
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I seem to remember having a few flu scares over my lifetime.
Spanish flu, Russian flu, and I'm sure there have been others that I can't recall.
Spanish flu, Russian flu, and I'm sure there have been others that I can't recall.
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How old are you?!Funkydrummer wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:28 pmI seem to remember having a few flu scares over my lifetime.
Spanish flu, Russian flu, and I'm sure there have been others that I can't recall.
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Old enough to have a season ticket in the Bob Lord stand.
67 years young.
67 years young.
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Swine flu and Asian flu have also come to mind.
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I had Beer flu last saturday morning
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A reason I try not to watch mainstream TV these days. They had an hour special last year on Britain melting under the heat...we were ok in the end..well some of us. I don't know anyone who succumbed. A few weeks ago Australia was brought into our living rooms with most of the country Burning...it's all quiet on the News now I take it things are better.they Love scaremongering these media powers that be.
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Snap.Funkydrummer wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:34 pmOld enough to have a season ticket in the Bob Lord stand.
67 years young.
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What are you old gimmers doing up at this time of night? I'm a mere youngster of 64, 65 in 2 weeks.
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BTW when I was young, everyone had chimmny flue.
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Like old folks home on here...Volvoclaret wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 12:26 amWhat are you old gimmers doing up at this time of night? I'm a mere youngster of 64, 65 in 2 weeks.
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'Flu kills people every year.
It's people saying they've "got 'flu" when really they've got a mild cold that means people don't treat it seriously.
A proper bout of 'flu could lay up a fit and healthy young person for a fortnite. Could easily be lethal to somebody with health problems, elderly or infirm.
'Flu can be deadly.
It's people saying they've "got 'flu" when really they've got a mild cold that means people don't treat it seriously.
A proper bout of 'flu could lay up a fit and healthy young person for a fortnite. Could easily be lethal to somebody with health problems, elderly or infirm.
'Flu can be deadly.
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Would you have the flu jab?Rowls wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 12:39 am'Flu kills people every year.
It's people saying they've "got 'flu" when really they've got a mild cold that means people don't treat it seriously.
A proper bout of 'flu could lay up a fit and healthy young person for a fortnite. Could easily be lethal to somebody with health problems, elderly or infirm.
'Flu can be deadly.
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Ahh spades was wondering where you'd got to not 5 minutes ago.strange..any way I did have the jab for the first time in Nov/Dec. I just have my doubts has I still get all the cold like symptoms. Though they're now passing! I wish you well.
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The jab may give you mild flu-like symptoms although it never has with me. If it stops you from getting the real flu then it's worth it, especially as you get older. As Rowls says, flu can be deadly.
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Volvoclaret » .............
"BTW when I was young, everyone had chimmny flue."
And it's likely most could spell it.
"BTW when I was young, everyone had chimmny flue."
And it's likely most could spell it.
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This is an old program .
Why the Anti BBC for showing it? -showing it again (it's been shown multiple times in the UK over the years and also sold abroad).
It is a timely reminder for today. If you choose to be ignorant / feel safe that things can't happen fair enough.
Lessons are there in history.
Why the Anti BBC for showing it? -showing it again (it's been shown multiple times in the UK over the years and also sold abroad).
It is a timely reminder for today. If you choose to be ignorant / feel safe that things can't happen fair enough.
Lessons are there in history.
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tim_noone wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:46 pmA reason I try not to watch mainstream TV these days. They had an hour special last year on Britain melting under the heat...we were ok in the end..well some of us. I don't know anyone who succumbed. A few weeks ago Australia was brought into our living rooms with most of the country Burning...it's all quiet on the News now I take it things are better.they Love scaremongering these media powers that be.
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Pack it in, tim...
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Absolutely right.Rowls wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 12:39 am'Flu kills people every year.
It's people saying they've "got 'flu" when really they've got a mild cold that means people don't treat it seriously.
A proper bout of 'flu could lay up a fit and healthy young person for a fortnite. Could easily be lethal to somebody with health problems, elderly or infirm.
'Flu can be deadly.
I got flu once. I was 12/13, walked to school In the morning and got soaking wet. I was in wet clothes for the rest of the day, and somehow managed to get home again before I collapsed through the front door.
I was in bed for 7 days pretty much unable to move, and lost 2 stone in weight.
To this day, 20+ years later, it is still the worst I have ever felt.
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A coincidence, Tsar. Influenza is a virus. You probably caught it from a classmate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza
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When I was at Primary School in 1968 I remember all the talk was of Hong Kong flu and looking it up now it apparently killed about 1 million people world wide. Wow!!
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Agree with a couple of previous posts: normal flu (as opposed to "a bad cold") is debilitating. I only had it once, early 30s & very fit then, my partner caught it at the same time (thankfully before we had kids to look after). Neither of us could get out of bed to even make tea/soup (thankfully her mother lived nearby and acted nurse for a couple of days).
I dont think twice about having the flu jab nowadays, I'm still reasonably hardy but, at 70, it would be a bugger of a trial to suffer flu now.
I didnt watch the programme last night but always been aware of the post WW1 flu epidemic that is said to have finished more people than the war itself.
I dont think twice about having the flu jab nowadays, I'm still reasonably hardy but, at 70, it would be a bugger of a trial to suffer flu now.
I didnt watch the programme last night but always been aware of the post WW1 flu epidemic that is said to have finished more people than the war itself.
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You are 6 months younger than me son, but we do own a Volvo.Volvoclaret wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 12:26 amWhat are you old gimmers doing up at this time of night? I'm a mere youngster of 64, 65 in 2 weeks.
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I've never had a flu jab...and I've never had flu...not even the 'man' version.
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As doctors have been trying to tell people for years (but many don't listen)...you don't get a cold from being cold (or flu from getting wet).Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:59 amA coincidence, Tsar. Influenza is a virus. You probably caught it from a classmate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza
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Ive had many injections in my time but I did turn down the fresh meat injection that was offered to me during my time in the navy!
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Lest we forget:
Bird flu.
Mad cow disease.
Aids.
Insert any 'plague' to the above list.
All these things were going to bring about the end of the world...last time I looked the overwhelming majority of people are still here.
Incidentally, as bad as this latest virus may be, are the stats on mortality any worse than normal flu? Is it just more virulent? I'm asking out of genuine interest as I have seen a figure of around 2% mortality...is that correct and is it any worse than the rate for normal flu? And given that most of the cases so far have been in China, a massively populated country with some very poor areas, would we see the same mortality rate in the west?
I don't know, I'm just posing the question.
Bird flu.
Mad cow disease.
Aids.
Insert any 'plague' to the above list.
All these things were going to bring about the end of the world...last time I looked the overwhelming majority of people are still here.
Incidentally, as bad as this latest virus may be, are the stats on mortality any worse than normal flu? Is it just more virulent? I'm asking out of genuine interest as I have seen a figure of around 2% mortality...is that correct and is it any worse than the rate for normal flu? And given that most of the cases so far have been in China, a massively populated country with some very poor areas, would we see the same mortality rate in the west?
I don't know, I'm just posing the question.
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1017 dead from Coronavirus
7+ billion people on Earth.
I'd say we're gonna be fine.
7+ billion people on Earth.
I'd say we're gonna be fine.
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The glaring difference being we know the animal that is the everyday influenza, this little bugger doing the rounds we don't really have a jar of glue yet.houseboy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:48 amLest we forget:
Bird flu.
Mad cow disease.
Aids.
Insert any 'plague' to the above list.
All these things were going to bring about the end of the world...last time I looked the overwhelming majority of people are still here.
Incidentally, as bad as this latest virus may be, are the stats on mortality any worse than normal flu? Is it just more virulent? I'm asking out of genuine interest as I have seen a figure of around 2% mortality...is that correct and is it any worse than the rate for normal flu? And given that most of the cases so far have been in China, a massively populated country with some very poor areas, would we see the same mortality rate in the west?
I don't know, I'm just posing the question.
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Indeed, and “normal” strains of flu kill 10-15,000 people in the UK alone every year (according to last night’s news).ClaretAndJew wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:53 am1017 dead from Coronavirus
7+ billion people on Earth.
I'd say we're gonna be fine.
I get that you can’t take risks with unknown new viruses, but the reaction does seem to a bit OTT.
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That was my point about scaremongering tbh.though agreed you don't want to be catching it.scouseclaret wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:22 amIndeed, and “normal” strains of flu kill 10-15,000 people in the UK alone every year (according to last night’s news).
I get that you can’t take risks with unknown new viruses, but the reaction does seem to a bit OTT.
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the flu jab protects you against last years virus, thats how it works .
whatever strain comes out during this season is then used to develop next years jab. th
The majority of flu vaccines are grown in chicken eggs, a method of vaccine development that's been around for 70 years or so. The flu virus constantly mutates, making it difficult to develop a current vaccine hence why the jab is always 12 months behind any new strain.
whatever strain comes out during this season is then used to develop next years jab. th
The majority of flu vaccines are grown in chicken eggs, a method of vaccine development that's been around for 70 years or so. The flu virus constantly mutates, making it difficult to develop a current vaccine hence why the jab is always 12 months behind any new strain.
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If I was in a group deemed at risk then yes.
But I'm a very healthy chap so it's not recommended as necessary. But I know just how bad 'flu is and how it knocks you off your feet.
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I don't think that's quite true: Virologists study how influenza develops and pick a straing they *think* is mostly likely to be prevalent.Goalposts wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 8:40 pmthe flu jab protects you against last years virus, thats how it works .
whatever strain comes out during this season is then used to develop next years jab. th
The majority of flu vaccines are grown in chicken eggs, a method of vaccine development that's been around for 70 years or so. The flu virus constantly mutates, making it difficult to develop a current vaccine hence why the jab is always 12 months behind any new strain.
It's guesswork, but very educated guesswork. They don't simply use "last years strain". Sometimes they don't target the prevalent straing as effectively as they would have hoped.
That much I know. Any more and we'd need a real expert rather than in internet know-it-all like myself.
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I went down with flu in the winter of 1978. I was super fit and only 19. I was in bed for three days unable to move..I literally thought i was a gonner.
I'd recommend everyone has the vaccine whatever their age.
I'd recommend everyone has the vaccine whatever their age.
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Its topical in the same way the 100 year anniversary of the 1914-1918 war has been reviewed year on year over the last 4-5 years. 20 million combat deaths during the conflict are dwarfed by the Spanish Flu pandemic of 1918-1920. Useful to keep in mind the deadly power of nature as well as that of mans stupidity in warfare.
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The Spanish flu pandemic of 1918 killed so many people because of the poor war diet people were eating - soldiers eating tinned luncheon meat, no vegetables etc - and the stress the conflict caused. Bad diet and stress are two main factors in reducing resistance to infection.
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