James Bulger - 27 years...

[Fretters]

..since those evil ****s kidnapped, tortured and murdered that poor, defenceless, terrified little boy. I've always struggled with this story, but since becoming a dad a few years ago (my daughter is same age James was), I won't lie that I haven't shed a tear this morning reading about it again.

Hell can't come soon enough for those two sh*ts.

[Bordeauxclaret]

24 years. How time flies.
Horrendous events.

[Jakubclaret]

I remember the incident, 24 years where does time go, horrible situation for the little lad & his family.

[groove]

I know this is one of the most horrific crimes ever committed on these shores but 24 years seems a strange milestone for remembering it. Do the media do this every year or are they just practicing for the biggy next year? It's probably a Scouse thing.

[ClaretAndJew]

27 years.

[Blackrod]

Couldn’t agree more with the OP. The fact the offenders have been released and one has re offended repeatedly is a disgrace.Clearly wired up wrong and no amount of therapy will help. Hopefully will one day get what’s coming to them.

[nil_desperandum]

It was a terrible and haunting event that raised, and still does raise many questions, but it's a bit odd that the OP makes such a thing about it being 24 years, (not normally a landmark), when in any event it's 27.
RIP James.

[ClaretAndJew]

I'm awaiting the people who want the perpetrators hanged, sawn in half, sent to Afghanistan with our war heroes, shipped to another island, blown up with grenades, set on by a pack of wild mouth breathing knuckle draggers, etc.

WE R SPENDIN TWO MUSH MUNEY ON THIS CROMINALS TO REHABITULATE THAM

[CaptainKirk]

Why are you assuming that anyone who thinks any of the above would be no more than they deserve must be illiterate idiots?

[Fretters]

Sorry, 27 years. Saw a 3 year old post on social media.

[Fretters]

It was a terrible and haunting event that raised, and still does raise many questions, but it's a bit odd that the OP makes such a thing about it being 24 years, (not normally a landmark), when in any event it's 27.
RIP James.

Are we only supposed to discuss significant events at 5 or 10 year intervals these days or something? It's a post on a message board, I haven't arranged a memorial service.

[AlargeClaret]

A typical post on twitter from someone with a keen interest in the case

“I swear I’d do time if I bumped into Venables while out shopping “

I presume he was referring to Jon ( Bulger killer) rather than the former Eng manager Terry/El Tel getting his cornflakes in Tesco?

[Steve1956]

My son was 30 last week,James would have been 30 this year,those two animals stole a lot of joy away from James parents,i have enjoyed watching my son grow into a fine young man,James parents never got that chance..heartbreaking story,and am i right in saying the two animals that did this walk amongst us....what a disgrace.

[nil_desperandum]

Are we only supposed to discuss significant events at 5 or 10 year intervals these days or something? It's a post on a message board, I haven't arranged a memorial service.

That really wasn't my point - as I think you I know. It was the apparently random marking of "24" years for an event that took place 27 years ago, but you've explained how that happened and it's an easy mistake to make. No offence was intended, particularly in light of the dark events that you were reminding us of.
But yes we do tend to leave a gap of 5, or 10 years between "marking" significant events. Yes, we must never forget, but if we mark everything too frequently then there's a danger that people begin to be less sensitive to it rather than more. This is why I prefer the once annually remembrance commemoration at Turf Moor for supporters who have died over the whole 12 months rather than the frequent commemorations / tributes that we now get at virtually every home game. (Obviously no offence intended to those who've lost loved ones and post on the big screen. It's just my personal view).

[Burnley1989]

My son was 30 last week,James would have been 30 this year,those two animals stole a lot of joy away from James parents,i have enjoyed watching my son grow into a fine young man,James parents never got that chance..heartbreaking story,and am i right in saying the two animals that did this walk amongst us....what a disgrace.

1 lives a normal life with his Boyfriend who is aware of his past, the other in a nonce that cant behave and is back in prison I believe.

[claptrappers_union]

Being the same age as Thompson and Venables at the time, it was quite hard-hitting because boys our age were suddenly painted as out-of-control thugs.

[Bordeauxclaret]

All of them?

[evensteadiereddie]

Jesus, here we go again. Why not bump the last thread on this and reread the comments, it would save everybody a hell of a lot of time.

[FCBurnley]

The killers are still alive and free to to do whatever they want. That will never be acceptable to me

[Spijed]

Whilst they are still alive two pieces off equipment no vigilante should be without:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bulldog-Prong- ... 5104&psc=1

https://www.rinkit.com/products/nicola- ... w4QAvD_BwE

[ClaretAndJew]

The killers are still alive and free to to do whatever they want. That will never be acceptable to me

They are on a life sentence license, they are not free to do what they want.

[Jakubclaret]

The killers are still alive and free to to do whatever they want. That will never be acceptable to me

It isn't acceptable & to be honest nothing has ever been acceptable about this case from the start, the public should have got a say about the appropriate course of punishment a 4 choice option, for really serious crimes such as murder I'd abolish & bypass all the courts & roll out a system where the public decide on a range of harsh options.

[Spijed]

It isn't acceptable & to be honest nothing has ever been acceptable about this case from the start, the public should have got a say about the appropriate course of punishment a 4 choice option, for really serious crimes such as murder I'd abolish & bypass all the courts & roll out a system where the public decide on a range of harsh options.

So you'd abolish the right to a fair trial by jury if we abolish the courts?

How would the public hear all the evidence?

[Jakubclaret]

So you'd abolish the right to a fair trial by jury if we abolish the courts?

How would the public hear all the evidence?

No the CPS decide on the guilt, hand it over to the public to sentence, no different to now apart from we would be replacing the court, by then the guilts already well & truelly established.

[evensteadiereddie]

Mmmmm, Taliban-style. Phew, it's a good job we're civilised and they're not.

[Jakubclaret]

Mmmmm, Taliban-style. Phew, it's a good job we're civilised and they're not.

Punishments would be appropriate, & no PS4 in the cells & early releases. The public (some) have had enough of our soft system which is easily exploited, my last post on this thread as it's supposed to be remembering somebody & not starting a cyber argument.

[FCBurnley]

What the killers did was hardly civilized !!! Not saying the punishment should be uncivilized. Just appropriate.

[Bordeauxclaret]

It isn't acceptable & to be honest nothing has ever been acceptable about this case from the start, the public should have got a say about the appropriate course of punishment a 4 choice option, for really serious crimes such as murder I'd abolish & bypass all the courts & roll out a system where the public decide on a range of harsh options.

Perhaps it could replace X Factor on a Saturday night? Let the public vote for punishment.
Nice and civilised.

[Woodleyclaret]

They should have been locked up forever
This crime was horrendous in the extreme and no release was appropriate.

[evensteadiereddie]

I can't really be arsed to go over all this stuff again but how old were the killers at the time ?

[TVC15]

It isn't acceptable & to be honest nothing has ever been acceptable about this case from the start, the public should have got a say about the appropriate course of punishment a 4 choice option, for really serious crimes such as murder I'd abolish & bypass all the courts & roll out a system where the public decide on a range of harsh options.

Wow

[bobinho]

I'm awaiting the people who want the perpetrators hanged, sawn in half, sent to Afghanistan with our war heroes, shipped to another island, blown up with grenades, set on by a pack of wild mouth breathing knuckle draggers, etc.

WE R SPENDIN TWO MUSH MUNEY ON THIS CROMINALS TO REHABITULATE THAM

You absolute whopper...

[bobinho]

They are on a life sentence license, they are not free to do what they want.

Bloody hell, you don’t stop do you?

[claptrappers_union]

It isn't acceptable & to be honest nothing has ever been acceptable about this case from the start, the public should have got a say about the appropriate course of punishment a 4 choice option, for really serious crimes such as murder I'd abolish & bypass all the courts & roll out a system where the public decide on a range of harsh options.

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[IanMcL]

I'm awaiting the people who want the perpetrators hanged, sawn in half, sent to Afghanistan with our war heroes, shipped to another island, blown up with grenades, set on by a pack of wild mouth breathing knuckle draggers, etc.

WE R SPENDIN TWO MUSH MUNEY ON THIS CROMINALS TO REHABITULATE THAM

I think nowadays we fly them to Jamaica.

[Lord Beamish]

These kinds of threads always bring out responses which illustrate why Justice should be served with Judgement, and not Passion.

[thatdberight]

So you'd abolish the right to a fair trial by jury if we abolish the courts?

How would the public hear all the evidence?

He didn't say that though, did he? I don't agree with his proposal. But that wasn't it.

[Burnley Ace]

My son was 30 last week,James would have been 30 this year,those two animals stole a lot of joy away from James parents,i have enjoyed watching my son grow into a fine young man,James parents never got that chance..heartbreaking story,and am i right in saying the two animals that did this walk amongst us....what a disgrace.

You’re making a presumption that he would have turned into a nice young man. He might not have

[nil_desperandum]

He didn't say that though, did he? I don't agree with his proposal. But that wasn't it.

It seems to me that he did say that, ("So you'd abolish the right to a fair trial by jury if we abolish the courts?")
This was his post:

"No the CPS decide on the guilt, hand it over to the public to sentence,"

So that's abolishing T by J.
It's good that you disagree with this though.

[thatdberight]

It seems to me that he did say that, ("So you'd abolish the right to a fair trial by jury if we abolish the courts?")
This was his post:

So that's abolishing T by J.
It's good that you disagree with this though.

He didn't say the public would have to hear all the evidence. And a jury doesn't have to be what we currently have.

I disagree with pretty much everybody on this thread either because it's knee-jerk or they have too many givens they can't see past. And I'm not much interested in discussing it.

[nil_desperandum]

He didn't say the public would have to hear all the evidence. And a jury doesn't have to be what we currently have.

That sounds rather like abolishing Trial by Jury to me.
It's not perfect by any means, but it's a basic human right we all have in the UK,(fundamental to our democracy and culture), and we would be on very dodgy ground to even consider changing it.
What sort of jury would you have for a murder case, (if not the current one?)

[tarkys_ears]

They were kids themselves. Hardly ******* monsters at that age, just brought up by shitty parents and forever ****** up.

Nobody is a winner or loser in this case, the whole ******* thing is a tragic set of circumstances all around.

[ClaretAndJew]

We should have a jury made up of crabs who all wander round the court room sideways until they land on a guilty or innocent tile on the floor.

[tim_noone]

Not Forgetting Baby P. Who suffered an horrific death at the hands of 3 Evil Bastar.s!! And countless other young Toddlers and Children who've suffered before and since.

[Fretters]

Not Forgetting Baby P. Who suffered an horrific death at the hands of 3 Evil Bastar.s!! And countless other young Toddlers and Children who've suffered before and since.

Absolutely - it's literally stuff that keeps me awake at night

[Untinted Glasses]

Sorry, 27 years. Saw a 3 year old post on social media.

It's actually frightening the age kids are on social media now. The parents should be ashamed.

[Steve1956]

You’re making a presumption that he would have turned into a nice young man. He might not have

And sadly that was the point I was making,we will never know,nor will his parents how James would have turned out....an absolutely senseless murder of an innocent you child,I can't imagine what James went through just before his murder or what his parents went through after it...the nonce one (Venables) should never be free to walk amongst us.

[Spike]

The evil pair of murderers should never have been set free

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Jon Venables has been refused bail and must stay in prison for at least 2 more years.

Waste of time releasing this paedophile, he's just going to offend yet again when he gets out, like he keeps on doing.

https://metro.co.uk/2020/09/29/james-bu ... -13341805/

[Steve1956]

Jon Venables has been refused bail and must stay in prison for at least 2 more years.

Waste of time releasing this paedophile, he's just going to offend yet again when he gets out, like he keeps on doing.

https://metro.co.uk/2020/09/29/james-bu ... -13341805/

One of life's complete no hopers,he was given another chance after what he did to James and abused that chance,pricks like him need their lives ending by lethal injection.