Lancashire police with not enough to do...

[Jakubclaret]

Great - well done.
Your many posts on this thread talking sh-ite sound just like you “don’t have a problem getting caught”. You seem absolutely fine with accepting it - happy days indeed eh

I’m agreeing with you, I’ll do everything by the book, I know road safety won’t improve, the physios & insurance companies & course providers & whoever receives the £100 fixed penalty will benefit, but let’s not lose sight of it’s all about road safety & not money, money as no influence, it’s all about road safety & I’ve been a naughty boy for speeding.

[TVC15]

I’m agreeing with you, I’ll do everything by the book, I know road safety won’t improve, the physios & insurance companies & course providers & whoever receives the £100 fixed penalty will benefit, but let’s not lose sight of it’s all about road safety & not money, money as no influence, it’s all about road safety & I’ve been a naughty boy for speeding.

Yes...yes I know. 100% - you are spot on.
Let’s hope for your sake they don’t start bringing in a fixed penalty for just being a bit of a d-ick.

[Dyched]

No accidents in over 20 years, I don’t have a problem with getting caught & seeing the punishment out, I’ll do everything by the book, accidents will be invited legally, I won’t be driving too slow or fast, when no danger is present (apart from daisy the cow 50metres away morphed into a super charged sprinting machine super engineered for speed & not milk) happy days.

Log off. Have a glass of water. Have a rest and maybe come back on tomorrow before you make anymore of a tit of yourself.

[Jakubclaret]

Yes...yes I know. 100% - you are spot on.
Let’s hope for your sake they don’t start bringing in a fixed penalty for just being a bit of a d-ick.

Money as no influence, dangers are always there even when no people appear to be present, you never know even on a country road, old people & young children could suddenly emerge & dash towards the road, it’s all about road safety that’s supremely imperative, money as no influence it’s road safety at all times.

[Dyched]

I’m agreeing with you, I’ll do everything by the book, I know road safety won’t improve, the physios & insurance companies & course providers & whoever receives the £100 fixed penalty will benefit, but let’s not lose sight of it’s all about road safety & not money, money as no influence, it’s all about road safety & I’ve been a naughty boy for speeding.

Why is it when speeders get caught it’s a money making exercise?? Do you don’t think mmmm if I or my other speeder friends don’t speed there is no need for money making exercises anymore?

[TVC15]

Money as no influence, dangers are always there even when no people appear to be present, you never know even on a country road, old people & young children could suddenly emerge & dash towards the road, it’s all about road safety that’s supremely imperative, money as no influence it’s road safety at all times.

Save it all for your speed awareness course - tell them what you think. They’ll be mightily impressed with your sound logic...especially the country roads thing - that’s pure brilliance and common sense. They might just point out that another car maybe coming in the other direction but f-uck em - you are the one who knows it’s just a money making scheme.

[taio]

I've been done for exactly the same thing recently 36 in a 30 Zone traveling towards earby stung at sough park shd be a 40 zone, broad pavements, no schools nothing, it's just a massive money making thing pretending to be concerned about road safety.

Perhaps have a look to see if there's been a decline in road deaths and evidence about the effect of speed cameras before suggesting their deployment has nothing to do with road safety.

[Jakubclaret]

Why is it when speeders get caught it’s a money making exercise?? Do you don’t think mmmm if I or my other speeder friends don’t speed there is no need for money making exercises anymore?

If all the cameras were positioned in danger spots fair dos, I wouldn’t forgive myself if I caused a accident as a result of excessive speed. Agree to disagree, I think it’s a money making exercise even before I got caught I thought that, that opinion hasn’t changed because I have. I just think the cameras should be where danger is present & not strategically placed catching people out where no danger is present, I’m taking your advice now & the glass of water beckons, let’s hope we beat the spuds at teatime Ko, UTC.

[tim_noone]

Your argument for speeding basically seems to be "The bloke behind me wants to go faster and if I stop him he'll do something stupid." What a ridiculous stance to take.

Do us all a favour and hand your licence in until you've got the correct mentality to drive a car.

[tim_noone]

If all the cameras were positioned in danger spots fair dos, I wouldn’t forgive myself if I caused a accident as a result of excessive speed. Agree to disagree, I think it’s a money making exercise even before I got caught I thought that, that opinion hasn’t changed because I have. I just think the cameras should be where danger is present & not strategically placed catching people out where no danger is present, I’m taking your advice now & the glass of water beckons, let’s hope we beat the spuds at teatime Ko, UTC.

Jakub ... There's really no Dangerous 'spots' or roads it's the drivers. Back to the sough road you mention.....from foulridge to the roundabout at kelbrook the speed Limit is 40 -60 hitting a built up area like sough at those speeds could cause serious injuries and fatalities. And Trust me the speed cars approach the roundabout are well above thirty.......

[Burnley Ace]

I’m wrong - but let’s just agree to disagree!

[Jakubclaret]

Jakub ... There's really no Dangerous 'spots' or roads it's the drivers. Back to the sough road you mention.....from foulridge to the roundabout at kelbrook the speed Limit is 40 -60 hitting a built up area like sough at those speeds could cause serious injuries and fatalities. And Trust me the speed cars approach the roundabout are well above thirty.......

The area I’m referring to is the long open stretch before earby, no bends or roundabouts, clear open views, broad pavements, you’ve even got driveways before the pavements start, it’s a good cash generating spot, I wouldn’t be the only 1 that day, I’m big on road safety myself & slow down where danger is present, over 20 years no accidents the record speaks for itself, speaking about it to other drivers some have fallen foul in the same area & the general consensus is in agreement with me, it’s by the by now it’s done & I’ll just stick to the limits at all times, the speed awareness course you don’t get offered it again if you speed again within 3 years.

[basil6345789]

The camera vans aren't actually operated by cops but maybe you should just stop speeding all the time?

Last year someone challenged an operator for impersonating a scuffer as the van had police on it.

[Devils_Advocate]

Jakub giving it large on UTC v Jakub when his Speed Awareness instructor walks in the room

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDKF8KkD7rE

[tim_noone]

Jakub giving it large on UTC v Jakub when his Speed Awareness instructor walks in the room

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDKF8KkD7rE

[cricketfieldclarets]

Wish they’d spend more time pulling over people for using mobiles whilst driving. Young women and van drivers are the worst offenders typically imo. I bang my horn at anyone I see doing it. It doesnt half startle them. The van drivers are probably doing it for work reasons and the young women probably just to check what’s happened in the last 2 minutes on Facebook or Instagram.

Guess what. Just nearly got hit by a white van at a zebra crossing... on his mobile on parliament street

[Rileybobs]

No surprise to see Jakubclaret yet again make a total buffoon of himself.

[Jakubclaret]

I’m wrong - but let’s just agree to disagree!

https://www.uia.co.uk/blog/70-of-uk-dri ... ake-money/
70% disagree.

[Jakubclaret]

No surprise to see Jakubclaret yet again make a total buffoon of himself.

If I don't, I'm sure you will fill the vacancy.

[Burnley Ace]

https://www.uia.co.uk/blog/70-of-uk-dri ... ake-money/
70% disagree.

Being in the majority of a self selecting survey doesn’t mean you are right!!

[Jakubclaret]

Being in the majority of a self selecting survey doesn’t mean you are right!!

No it doesn't but it's a bigger pool than the views represented on this forum, 70% agree with me

[deanothedino]

No accidents upto now, so in over 20 years I must be doing something right, I’ll drive to the limits at all times even if there’s a remote possibility of some random cow or sheep from a nearby field jumping over a wall & charging towards the road with some sort of death wish, happy days.

So now you’re saying if something steps in the road you won’t slow down for it because you’ll do the limit? You aren’t half a selfish cock are you.

Some sort of miracle you’ve not had an accident.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Typical of this forum really.

We get threads where people moan about the driving/accidents by young lads in fast cars in certain parts of Burnley and surrounding areas with not enough being done, then we get stuff like this where people complain speeders are being caught.

[Jakubclaret]

So now you’re saying if something steps in the road you won’t slow down for it because you’ll do the limit? You aren’t half a selfish cock are you.

Some sort of miracle you’ve not had an accident.

70% agree with me.

[Billy Balfour]

Obviously there aren't enough murders/stabbings in the county of Lancashire so they must concentrate on drivers 'dangerously speeding' at 36mph in a 30mph zone.

You were caught doing 36 in a 30 MPH zone? If so, your speedo would have been close to 40mph. No excuse, mate.

[deanothedino]

70% agree with me.

70% agree with you that you should stick to the speed limit even if you can see something in the way in the road? I don't think they do.

[ClaretMov]

I think we all know that, at times, you can drive perfectly safely at 36 in a 30 mph restricted area, whilst at times, you'd be a menace to yourself and everyone else, if you were doing 36 in areas of some roads that are technically under the National Speed Limit of 60 mph ...

I have six points, 3 points for doing 37 mph on the dual carriageway section of Padiham Road, fair enough ...., but the other was for doing 59 mph on a virtually deserted M60 at 1.32 am, with a 50 limit temporarily in place, due to " Road Works ". They had those big signs with a young girl wearing a yellow hard hat, " Please drive carefully, my Daddy works on this road ! ", well, he'd either gone down the pub, or was " bothering ", because he certainly wasn't working ..

Roll on July 4th and 5th December when both offences are spent !

What year did you get caught speeding.

[Jakubclaret]

70% agree with you that you should stick to the speed limit even if you can see something in the way in the road? I don't think they do.

The 70% was based on whether speed cameras exist for money & not road safety, yes of course you should stick to the speed limit, it's very debatable whether it's for the use of road safety & not monetary reasons, I've said it's a money making exercise & 70% of the people agree with me.
There's no escaping the fact within that survey 70% of the people agree with me & within a smaller pool (this forum) some think the speed cameras are purely driven to reduce accidents thus improving road safety & money doesn't even come into it, which I disagree & 70% of the other people disagree also. Bucking the trend is prevalent only when canvassing opinion on this forum.

[Gordaleman]

Like in all occupations, the easier and more straight forward the job, the better.
Catching big time players for big time crimes takes time, bodies and resources ( mainly cash )
Standing with a speed gun gets far more "results" and brings the cash in.

The force is stretched to the limit though we are regularly told, so there must be plenty going on regularly to keep them so stretched for this length of time.

The simple fact is, people SEE speed cams etc.. We don't see officers trawling through loads of documents in the hunt for the BIG criminals, as that's all done in stations, behind desks. We've all seen these headline grabbing raids that bring down organised crime gangs. Do you really think that's done without hours and hours of research?

[deanothedino]

The 70% was based on whether speed cameras exist for money & not road safety, yes of course you should stick to the speed limit, it's very debatable whether it's for the use of road safety & not monetary reasons, I've said it's a money making exercise & 70% of the people agree with me.
There's no escaping the fact within that survey 70% of the people agree with me & within a smaller pool (this forum) some think the speed cameras are purely driven to reduce accidents thus improving road safety & money doesn't even come into it, which I disagree & 70% of the other people disagree also. Bucking the trend is prevalent only when canvassing opinion on this forum.

No, you’ve just changed the subject with me. I don’t give a **** whether some survey says another group of morons have the same opinion as you.

I’m bothered about the fact you seem to have just suggested that you’d stick to the speed limit rigidly if there was an animal in the road but you’re now changing the subject. Presumably because you’ve realised what a tit you look.

[Burnley Ace]

The 70% was based on whether speed cameras exist for money & not road safety, yes of course you should stick to the speed limit, it's very debatable whether it's for the use of road safety & not monetary reasons, I've said it's a money making exercise & 70% of the people agree with me.
There's no escaping the fact within that survey 70% of the people agree with me & within a smaller pool (this forum) some think the speed cameras are purely driven to reduce accidents thus improving road safety & money doesn't even come into it, which I disagree & 70% of the other people disagree also. Bucking the trend is prevalent only when canvassing opinion on this forum.

It’s not a random selection of people. It’s like going to a Leave EU site poll and then stating 100% of the people surveyed want to leave the EU!! Have you not learnt anything over the last few years?

[Jakubclaret]

No, you’ve just changed the subject with me. I don’t give a **** whether some survey says another group of morons have the same opinion as you.

I’m bothered about the fact you seem to have just suggested that you’d stick to the speed limit rigidly if there was an animal in the road but you’re now changing the subject. Presumably because you’ve realised what a tit you look.

Well 70% agree there's no escaping that fact, 70% within that much larger pool think safety cameras exist for money, it's likely that 7 in 10 are right to 3 in 10. I'll stick to the speed limits if I can dodge roadkill without endangering other road users I will, I don't disregard common sense I back it.

[dougcollins]

Straying a bit, but when was the law on overtaking changed?

It must have been made illegal, as everyone I overtake now flashes their lights at me.

[Billy Balfour]

A few years ago we got taking to an old guy who was a 'hang 'em and flog 'em type. He was banging on about law and order, but it quickly transpired that he wasn't really much of a 'hang 'em and flog 'em' chap when it came to himself. Tax evasion, giving someone a smack or two if they offended him etc.

It's the same kind of hypocrisy when it comes to speeding. These people don't think the law applies to them and they moan like feck when they get caught. IT'S SO UNFAIR.

[Jakubclaret]

It’s not a random selection of people. It’s like going to a Leave EU site poll and then stating 100% of the people surveyed want to leave the EU!! Have you not learnt anything over the last few years?

You can all gang up with the same opinion I'm not bothered, it was a independent survey with no axes to grind, I don't get the holier than thou attitude, we've all done it, some still are, the only difference is some of us get caught & some of us don't.

[Stanbill05]

You can all gang up with the same opinion I'm not bothered, it was a independent survey with no axes to grind, I don't get the holier than thou attitude, we've all done it, some still are, the only difference is some of us get caught & some of us don't.

But most of us accept when we're wrong and take our medicine quietly, even when convinced we weren't dangerous. You knew it was 30, therefore it's an argument you can't win. It's true there is different scales of speeding and yours doesn't sound too bad but it's worth listening to the speed awareness course, especially the bit that explains why 36 is so much worse than 30

[cricketfieldclarets]

Typical of this forum really.

We get threads where people moan about the driving/accidents by young lads in fast cars in certain parts of Burnley and surrounding areas with not enough being done, then we get stuff like this where people complain speeders are being caught.

Spot on

[deanothedino]

Well 70% agree there's no escaping that fact, 70% within that much larger pool think safety cameras exist for money, it's likely that 7 in 10 are right to 3 in 10. I'll stick to the speed limits if I can dodge roadkill without endangering other road users I will, I don't disregard common sense I back it.

Why are you banging on about this 70% rather than the dumb **** you keep saying?

I could round up 10 people, where 7 believe the earth is flat. Doesn't make them right does it.

[Jakubclaret]

Why are you banging on about this 70% rather than the dumb **** you keep saying?

I could round up 10 people, where 7 believe the earth is flat. Doesn't make them right does it.

Equally doesn't make them wrong does it, by that same token.

[Rileybobs]

Equally doesn't make them wrong does it, by that same token.

No. Them being wrong makes them wrong. You’re making a fool of yourself.

[deanothedino]

No. Them being wrong makes them wrong. You’re making a fool of yourself.

Ah, so the fact that speed cameras aren't just for making money (that is a fact) means that you and your 70% group of your favourite survey are wrong.

Thanks for clearing that up, we can now just go back to how bitter you are that you got caught doing 20% more than the posted speed limit

[Rileybobs]

Ah, so the fact that speed cameras aren't just for making money (that is a fact) means that you and your 70% group of your favourite survey are wrong.

Thanks for clearing that up, we can now just go back to how bitter you are that you got caught doing 20% more than the posted speed limit

Think you quoted the wrong person.

[Jakubclaret]

No. Them being wrong makes them wrong. You’re making a fool of yourself.

You can all gang up with the same cloned viewpoint, whether you like it or not outside this forum 70% of people within that survey all unanimously agree that the speed cameras exist for money. There is no right or wrong because people can't agree, hence earlier me stating "agree to disagree" on this 1, you are stating that I'm wrong despite the majority outside this forum disagreeing.

[Jakubclaret]

But most of us accept when we're wrong and take our medicine quietly, even when convinced we weren't dangerous. You knew it was 30, therefore it's an argument you can't win. It's true there is different scales of speeding and yours doesn't sound too bad but it's worth listening to the speed awareness course, especially the bit that explains why 36 is so much worse than 30

I'm not disputing that never have been, speeding is wrong, the wider debate is whether the speed cameras are money orientated or road safety is the reason. You speed it's WRONG, you won't see me defending that, it's the speed cameras motives & intentions I'm questioning.

[Clarets4me]

What year did you get caught speeding.

2017, points cease to be valid after 3 years, but remain on the record for 4 years ...

[GodIsADeeJay81]

You can all gang up with the same cloned viewpoint, whether you like it or not outside this forum 70% of people within that survey all unanimously agree that the speed cameras exist for money. There is no right or wrong because people can't agree, hence earlier me stating "agree to disagree" on this 1, you are stating that I'm wrong despite the majority outside this forum disagreeing.

Static Speed cameras can only be placed on a road that has a history of accidents involving pedestrians.

Average speed cameras are for roadworks and help protect the workers.

Mobile cameras tend to be located in regular spots and can be easily avoided if you know the area, but again they are on roads where speeding is potentially an issue.

The only reason speed cameras generate money is because people break the speed limit, usually willingly, but also because they aren't driving with due care and attention so they drift over the speed limit which is easy enough to do.

I'm not going to preach to anyone, I've been caught twice speeding.

Once when my then spouse was suffering a miscarriage and once when I had to get to North Wales because my Dad wasn't meant to make it through the night due to illness (I took a different route to avoid the cameras when I went up this year after I got the same sort of phone call about him)

[deanothedino]

You can all gang up with the same cloned viewpoint, whether you like it or not outside this forum 70% of people within that survey all unanimously agree that the speed cameras exist for money. There is no right or wrong because people can't agree, hence earlier me stating "agree to disagree" on this 1, you are stating that I'm wrong despite the majority outside this forum disagreeing.

They may do but they’re wrong. Just like you are.

[Jakubclaret]

They may do but they’re wrong. Just like you are.

Yes that's true, 70% of the people within that survey are all wrong & nobody makes money from the speed cameras.

[The Quattro]

I've been done for exactly the same thing recently 36 in a 30 Zone traveling towards earby stung at sough park shd be a 40 zone, broad pavements, no schools nothing, it's just a massive money making thing pretending to be concerned about road safety.

It'll be a community concern speed site, so called because the local residents are concerned about the speed of vehicles passing through their village. You said there were no schools or anything... but there was a park. Parks tend to be popular with children.

[deanothedino]

Yes that's true, 70% of the people within that survey are all wrong & nobody makes money from the speed cameras.

They probably are, yes. They’re probably all selfish pr1cks like you