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Gordaleman,
Where has this been reported?
Where has this been reported?
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BBC just now.
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I'm certainly not always right.Gordaleman wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:29 amIn your mind maybe. I keep forgetting how you are ALWAYS right.
You, however, have been demonstrably and repeatedly mostly wrong.
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I went for my hematologist appointment this morning to a virtually empty waiting room. Only to be told I didn't need to come in as they are doing phone appointments. They sent a text apparently which I didn't receive.
Anyway, I still have to go in for a venesection this afternoon as my Hematocrit levels are too high!
No avoiding the hospital!
Anyway, I still have to go in for a venesection this afternoon as my Hematocrit levels are too high!
No avoiding the hospital!
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It’s going to be an interesting thing to watch at work.
You have between 70-80 people working in the same office.
One sink, one water heater with a single handle one fridge.
No hand sanitizer or wipes left.
5 people gone home with Covid symptoms but due to no tests, no one knows if they have it, so it’s carry on as usual.
You have between 70-80 people working in the same office.
One sink, one water heater with a single handle one fridge.
No hand sanitizer or wipes left.
5 people gone home with Covid symptoms but due to no tests, no one knows if they have it, so it’s carry on as usual.
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Again, in your always right view. Nitpicking a piece of a very useful and up to date information is a bit pathetic.thatdberight wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:46 amI'm certainly not always right.
You, however, have been demonstrably and repeatedly mostly wrong.
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Credit to Chelsea and Abramovich,hope more football clubs can follow suit,as much as possible in the circumstances.
https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/2020/ ... cal-staff
https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/2020/ ... cal-staff
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Agree, but if a multi billionaire can't help, who can?tiger76 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:52 amCredit to Chelsea and Abramovich,hope more football clubs can follow suit,as much as possible in the circumstances.
https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/2020/ ... cal-staff
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I’ll feel absolutely fine thanks. For the record, I’m working from home for the foreseeable future, how would you feel if I died as a result of herd immunity taking too long to kick in and a member of my family came into the house with this virus? It’s as pointless an argument as your scenario.Lowbankclaret wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:35 am2 more gone home this morning.
How will you feel about that statement if several of my colleagues pass away?
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Personally I would feel really sad, if anyone I know passes away from this.Zlatan wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:55 amI’ll feel absolutely fine thanks. For the record, I’m working from home for the foreseeable future, how would you feel if I died as a result of herd immunity taking too long to kick in and a member of my family came into the house with this virus? It’s as pointless an argument as your scenario.
Be that at work.
Or someone on here who I had debates with.
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Every little helps as the saying goes.
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Very few people at PMQs today and those that are there are sitting well apart from each other.
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Last time I "nitpicked" according to you it was because you said this measure was falling very quickly on March 9. Sounds like "nitpicking" is good in that case.Gordaleman wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:48 amAgain, in your always right view. Nitpicking a piece of a very useful and up to date information is a bit pathetic.
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170 countries out of the 195, (there is a debate its 197) now have cases of Covid 19.
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Forget it. It's a waste of time trying to have a sensible conversation with you. You've made your mind up to argue with me at every opportunity, whether I'm right or wrong.thatdberight wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:10 pmLast time I "nitpicked" according to you it was because you said this measure was falling very quickly on March 9. Sounds like "nitpicking" is good in that case.
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I suppose you are also likely to find fault with my posts over the last two days that reported that the cases in Italy appeared to be peaking? (To make it clear, I didn't say falling.)
Don't bother answering, it was a rhetorical question.
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nope, but I have now. It is a minefield isn't it, but my initial question wasn't to be obtuse, but to generate debate around what people mean by testing and to try and understand why there is a problem with the various methods of testing etc. We could waste time testing people and then a week later have to test them again, it is this reason that I support our country's position to not systematically test for every sniffle. I'm sure others will disagree, but that's what I think (right now)mdd2 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:12 amAdd in sensitivity and specificity of the PCR testing and then cat and pigeons comes to mind.
There will be false positives and negatives. Not read details of PCR specificity and sensitivity, have you Zlatan?
Not certain testing for antibodies is widely available yet as I think this is what Roche announced in USA on Tuesday or Monday.
Again what do(es) these antibodies mean re past infection and present immunity?
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I think that more people would be being tested, if we had enough trained people to check those tests and provide results. The problem is, that we don't.Zlatan wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:20 pmnope, but I have now. It is a minefield isn't it, but my initial question wasn't to be obtuse, but to generate debate around what people mean by testing and to try and understand why there is a problem with the various methods of testing etc. We could waste time testing people and then a week later have to test them again, it is this reason that I support our country's position to not systematically test for every sniffle. I'm sure others will disagree, but that's what I think (right now)
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Where is that link for dialy stats and reported new cases?
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I missed the detail in PMQs but BBC News which was covering it, said that a 'Home test' to see if people have HAD the virus was apparrently very close.
That would be a great help, especially in the NHS, as people who had had it, would be able to return to work without the worry of catching it or passing it on.
That would be a great help, especially in the NHS, as people who had had it, would be able to return to work without the worry of catching it or passing it on.
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https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/Claretmatt4 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:46 pmWhere is that link for dialy stats and reported new cases?
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I think we should start a thread with positive and only positive news regarding this disease.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coronavi ... spartanntp
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coronavi ... spartanntp
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I'll answer anyway. There appears to be the tiniest turndown of cases on the logarithmic scale in Italy's cases. Fingers crossed.Gordaleman wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:19 pmForget it. It's a waste of time trying to have a sensible conversation with you. You've made your mind up to argue with me at every opportunity, whether I'm right or wrong.
I suppose you are also likely to find fault with my posts over the last two days that reported that the cases in Italy appeared to be peaking? (To make it clear, I didn't say falling.)
Don't bother answering, it was a rhetorical question.
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Claretmatt4 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:46 pmWhere is that link for dialy stats and reported new cases?
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ (not official - may have wrong numbers
https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboar ... 7b48e9ecf6 (more definitive, worse interface)
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That sounds very positive. It will be interesting to hear what Trump has to announce at 4-30 pm with the American FDA. Apparently something very important.bfcjg wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:57 pmI think we should start a thread with positive and only positive news regarding this disease.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coronavi ... spartanntp
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Providing those who purposely try and ruin it, are banned for 12 months, sure.bfcjg wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:57 pmI think we should start a thread with positive and only positive news regarding this disease.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coronavi ... spartanntp
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Looking like Schools will be shutting at the weekend.
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That from Nicola Sturgeon but it might be superceded by Boris later today.Lowbankclaret wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:26 pmLooking like Schools will be shutting at the weekend.
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Scotland And Wales have announced it, based on the science.
So Boris has to follow the same , no?
So Boris has to follow the same , no?
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No. Boris mentioned an update on schools before either Scotland or Wales announced it.Lowbankclaret wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:35 pmScotland And Wales have announced it, based on the science.
So Boris has to follow the same , no?
I'm no Boris fan and I'm sure he hasn't got much of a clue, but at least he's listening to the professionals on this.
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They shut every weekend.Lowbankclaret wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:26 pmLooking like Schools will be shutting at the weekend.
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AT THIS TIME:
I really don't care where the virus started
I really don't care what caused it
The above is because I am 100% positive that teams of professional people will be working on the above and will in due time provide definitive details to the best of there knowledge as experts in these fields.
I really care about how it is spreading, where is it reducing, hopefully providing an indication to where the rest of the world goes.
I really care about where are they are on a vaccine and interim testing on existing medicines that could/may prove beneficial in the fight against the virus
I really care about people making the right decisions, no stock piling/hoarding, self isolation ASAP where symptoms are noticed
there are other things I am interested in, stock markets, entertainment (football/pubs/restaurants/travel/vacations)
I just got off a conference call with one company I am doing some work for, as you can imagine Covid 19 was the start of the call, world wide company, 18,000 people in multiple regions, they also employ thousands of subcontractors, they had there first confirmed case this week, guy sent home, young and believed to be in no direct threat. Everyone they could identify has also been sent home who were in contact over the last two weeks with him.
Those kinds of numbers give me encouragement in that it is a large diverse set of numbers with low affect to the whole group in numerous locations in terms of percentage of people infected today. I know there is still time but we have gone through quite some time for people to have been infected.
I am amazed at what Lowbank is posting in terms of office and number of people infected, on the surface the office sounds shockingly bad, maybe I am being clouded in that judgement but things like number of people and one fridge should not be acceptable to anyone. Just an observation and only an opinion from very little info so can clearly be a wrong interpretation of things.
I really don't care where the virus started
I really don't care what caused it
The above is because I am 100% positive that teams of professional people will be working on the above and will in due time provide definitive details to the best of there knowledge as experts in these fields.
I really care about how it is spreading, where is it reducing, hopefully providing an indication to where the rest of the world goes.
I really care about where are they are on a vaccine and interim testing on existing medicines that could/may prove beneficial in the fight against the virus
I really care about people making the right decisions, no stock piling/hoarding, self isolation ASAP where symptoms are noticed
there are other things I am interested in, stock markets, entertainment (football/pubs/restaurants/travel/vacations)
I just got off a conference call with one company I am doing some work for, as you can imagine Covid 19 was the start of the call, world wide company, 18,000 people in multiple regions, they also employ thousands of subcontractors, they had there first confirmed case this week, guy sent home, young and believed to be in no direct threat. Everyone they could identify has also been sent home who were in contact over the last two weeks with him.
Those kinds of numbers give me encouragement in that it is a large diverse set of numbers with low affect to the whole group in numerous locations in terms of percentage of people infected today. I know there is still time but we have gone through quite some time for people to have been infected.
I am amazed at what Lowbank is posting in terms of office and number of people infected, on the surface the office sounds shockingly bad, maybe I am being clouded in that judgement but things like number of people and one fridge should not be acceptable to anyone. Just an observation and only an opinion from very little info so can clearly be a wrong interpretation of things.
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Thanks for making my point. You should try explaining that to Gordon.
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Getting rumbles on the grapevine that the military are prepared for a complete shutdown from tomorrow...
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I have just spoken to a subcontractor in the North West.KateR wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:48 pmAT THIS TIME:
I really don't care where the virus started
I really don't care what caused it
The above is because I am 100% positive that teams of professional people will be working on the above and will in due time provide definitive details to the best of there knowledge as experts in these fields.
I really care about how it is spreading, where is it reducing, hopefully providing an indication to where the rest of the world goes.
I really care about where are they are on a vaccine and interim testing on existing medicines that could/may prove beneficial in the fight against the virus
I really care about people making the right decisions, no stock piling/hoarding, self isolation ASAP where symptoms are noticed
there are other things I am interested in, stock markets, entertainment (football/pubs/restaurants/travel/vacations)
I just got off a conference call with one company I am doing some work for, as you can imagine Covid 19 was the start of the call, world wide company, 18,000 people in multiple regions, they also employ thousands of subcontractors, they had there first confirmed case this week, guy sent home, young and believed to be in no direct threat. Everyone they could identify has also been sent home who were in contact over the last two weeks with him.
Those kinds of numbers give me encouragement in that it is a large diverse set of numbers with low affect to the whole group in numerous locations in terms of percentage of people infected today. I know there is still time but we have gone through quite some time for people to have been infected.
I am amazed at what Lowbank is posting in terms of office and number of people infected, on the surface the office sounds shockingly bad, maybe I am being clouded in that judgement but things like number of people and one fridge should not be acceptable to anyone. Just an observation and only an opinion from very little info so can clearly be a wrong interpretation of things.
They have had 6 people go home with symptoms in the last 48 hours.
If only half are real Covid cases from my work and this subcontractor that’s still large amounts at this time.
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Just under 700 (676) cases announced in the UK in the last 24 hours.
Now 2626 cases total.
Now 2626 cases total.
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How does Gordaleman (Gordale Scar at Malham) translate to Gordon? There are some real numpties on here.
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it's a huge percentage given the number of people you mentioned Lowbank, do you think having people coming in to work after travel, I think you mentioned from Italy caused the issue?
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Re: the where did it come from debate?
Coronaviruses do come from animals, but this one probably did not come directly from a bat. Instead there was an intermediate host which transmitted the virus to a human being. Here is how Middle Eastern Respiratory Syndrome spread (also a Coronavirus):
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/2/19-0697_article
As you can see, the bat gave it to a camel, which gave it to other camels, one of whom eventually gave it to a human.
The last I heard, the picture is basically the same for COVID-19 except in place of camels, we have Asian palm civets. Apparently they are sold in the kind of wet markets where the virus is believed to have originated.
Coronaviruses do come from animals, but this one probably did not come directly from a bat. Instead there was an intermediate host which transmitted the virus to a human being. Here is how Middle Eastern Respiratory Syndrome spread (also a Coronavirus):
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/2/19-0697_article
As you can see, the bat gave it to a camel, which gave it to other camels, one of whom eventually gave it to a human.
The last I heard, the picture is basically the same for COVID-19 except in place of camels, we have Asian palm civets. Apparently they are sold in the kind of wet markets where the virus is believed to have originated.
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Two Things
1. Which washed-up past it person was due to headline this year?
2. Thank **** for that!
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You know we are in trouble when morgues are being urgently expanded capacity wise.
Just been on sky news.
Just been on sky news.
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lowbank you are gonna give yourself a heart attack if you continue searching for and typing updates which are never going to be good news for the short term period ahead
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Don't know how that would work. Most of the military are already out of theatre fighting another of America's wars. Even if every single one of them was available, and they worked 24 hours a day, seven days a week, that's one member of the military for about every 400 to 500 citizens.
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The only known cure is chlorinated chicken?Gordaleman wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:42 amDonald Trump to announce 'Very important news' from the US Food and Drugs Administration at 4-30 pm UK time.
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My company works worldwide.
Face to face meetings carried on in every country right up to last week.
I requested hand sanitizers on each doorway 5 weeks ago, it was rejected.
It’s all to late now.
The company didn’t take it seriously at all, but to be fair most people at work, on here and my wonderful mother thought I was overreacting.
Seems I was underreacting, but hindsight is the greatest wisdom.
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Are you Ringo in disguise?Lowbankclaret wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:20 pmMy company works worldwide.
Face to face meetings carried on in every country right up to last week.
I requested hand sanitizers on each doorway 5 weeks ago, it was rejected.
It’s all to late now.
The company didn’t take it seriously at all, but to be fair most people at work, on here and my wonderful mother thought I was overreacting.
Seems I was underreacting, but hindsight is the greatest wisdom.
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Where are you seeing these rumours?
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I don’t think I am, honestly.claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:15 pmlowbank you are gonna give yourself a heart attack if you continue searching for and typing updates which are never going to be good news for the short term period ahead
I am not searching for most things.
I have the news on, so it keeps popping up.
I assume perhaps wrongly people are coming on the thread to read what’s going on, hence I post news and links.
I am very fortunate, I am at home isolated. With enough food to be ok for a few weeks.
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