Is that right!?
Care to post which one?
Or are you, and I'm not using my words, but your own-
Shouldn't be too tricky for you.....
Is that right!?
Shouldn't be too tricky for you.....
Can only find the tweet which is here https://twitter.com/jamesmelville/statu ... 20229?s=21RingoMcCartney wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:42 amIs that right!?
Care to post which one?
Or are you, and I'm not using my words, but your own-
Shouldn't be too tricky for you.....
I'm putting the washing out please be considerate as to where you put the BBQ .thank you.Lowbankclaret wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:47 amMorning everyone,
It’s a lovely day out there, just going to walk the dogs and planning a BBQ later if this weather holds up today.
Have a nice day clarets fans.
Whilst practising social distancing of course.
I'm surprised the thread still exists. And a good handful of posters are allowed to still post. Should have been binned.fatboy47 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:22 amWhat should be the most relevant, interesting, informative and important thread on the board now totally buggered up and virtually unreadable thanks to the vanity of the usual handful of imbeciles unable to manage their fragile egos and empty headed opinions with any class.
Fair enough.ClaretAndJew wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:24 amCan only find the tweet which is here https://twitter.com/jamesmelville/statu ... 20229?s=21
Which has since been deleted. There was a screen grab of The Sun saying he'd recovered but it was obviously wrong.
Problem I find with Twitter is the nature in which some people will say something with such conviction that you can't help but think it must be correct otherwise they could get in trouble for saying it.RingoMcCartney wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:12 amFair enough.
Giving the passage of time it shows how inaccurate the information was, as far as I'm aware, the PM is still self isolating as he's still exhibiting symptoms of this horrible virus. Been said already, people use this thread for news and information. May just want to double check the accuracy of your sources going forward. I know you wouldn't want to, inadvertently , misinform anyone.
India currently has less than 3.5k cases. Anyone coming from India is significantly less likely to be infected than anyone coming from London and we’re still allowing Londoners to travel the country (if essential).Lowbankclaret wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:49 amSame as the people coming back from Italy, America and everywhere else.
They just come in and follow what we do.
Bonkers!
Dont be too concerned about " looking stupid " . You dont. But if you did, you'd be in good company with us on here!ClaretAndJew wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:49 amProblem I find with Twitter is the nature in which some people will say something with such conviction that you can't help but think it must be correct otherwise they could get in trouble for saying it.
When it's incorrect, as in this case, makes me look stupid and I jumped the gun.
You're right of course in maintaining accurate information.
No matter where you post links from, some people call it out as fake news. Even if it turns out later it was a true story those people don’t put there hand up and admit they were wrong.ClaretAndJew wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:49 amProblem I find with Twitter is the nature in which some people will say something with such conviction that you can't help but think it must be correct otherwise they could get in trouble for saying it.
When it's incorrect, as in this case, makes me look stupid and I jumped the gun.
You're right of course in maintaining accurate information.
And you Ringo.RingoMcCartney wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 11:00 amDont be too concerned about " looking stupid " . You dont. But if you did, you'd be in good company with us on here!
And bare in mind, there are so called "professional " political commentators who are paid handsomely for their "informed" opinions. They too "jump the gun" and are then publicly humiliated on their own TV show as somebody far more knowledgeable on the subject tears a strip off them ! Robert Peston anyone!?
Anyway, remember, "The Man Who Never Makes a Mistake , Will Never Make Anything"
Keep safe and well, C n J.
India is a difficult one, poverty is rife. Health care is not great. I haven’t read any data on India’s testing but I suggest it’s not going be big.
How much common sense can one man fit in a single post!?CrosspoolClarets wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 11:18 amThe thing is, every country is unique.
We have, for better or worse, got few companies British owned now and they will prioritise their own country - e.g. the ventilator producer now owned by a Chinese conglomerate who shipped many of them produced here back to China last month.
We have our own geography, unlike Swedens who have far fewer people per square mile.
We have failed to stockpile PPE and prepare for mass testing in the past. Every single annual report of Public Health England only (briefly) references a flu pandemic and these do not need mass testing in the same way.
These are all facts - so we can be playing the blame game in politics but in reality our destiny is probably predetermined. An earlier lockdown would probably have saved “x” lives just like a later lockdown would cost “y” lives, but there is no way we could ever have done a South Korea who were prepared for this after SARS.
Best thing to do, batten down the hatches, beat it, then move on without recrimination. Then build a new Britain heeding the lessons of the old one (more self sufficiency for a start).
Thosand's in India die from different illnesses without it being reported.
That’s where I have issues with experts, any of us on here can see it’s going to hit his lower figure by Thursday/Friday next week. The upper 20,000 figure still hangs in the balance, as can be seen from the graph shared earlier currently our death rate is not slowing like Italy’s did. Let’s hope that starts today or it’s likely we overshoot the 20,000.Spijed wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 11:11 amThe UK could see an estimated 7,000 to 20,000 deaths during the coronavirus pandemic, one of the country's top epidemiologists has said.
Professor Neil Ferguson told the BBC's Andrew Marr that experts believe the number of deaths "could be anywhere between about 7,000 or so up to a little over 20,000".
He said there are "some signs" the lockdown has helped slow the spread of virus, adding that the epidemic will likely plateau in the next seven to 10 days.
Prof Ferguson, whose modelling has guided the UK government on coronavirus, said: "What is critically important then is how quickly case numbers go down - do we see a long, flat peak or do we, as we hope, see a much faster decline?
That’s coming unfortunately.
Seems so. But I do think there should be ways of tightening controls in the first instance without the need for an outright ban on outdoor exercise.Lowbankclaret wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 11:38 amThat’s coming unfortunately.
If our death figures hit say around 800 today and there are pictures all over of people not Social distancing , they will bring in tougher rules.
Where have you got the 40k figure from?Lowbankclaret wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 11:36 amThat’s where I have issues with experts, any of us on here can see it’s going to hit his lower figure by Thursday/Friday next week. The upper 20,000 figure still hangs in the balance, as can be seen from the graph shared earlier currently our death rate is not slowing like Italy’s did. Let’s hope that starts today or it’s likely we overshoot the 20,000.
I am sure he knows this but does not want to say it will be between 20-40 k.
To say our fate is predetermined obfuscates all responsibility, I bet the government would love that, Ringo seems to.CrosspoolClarets wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 11:18 amWe have failed to stockpile PPE and prepare for mass testing in the past. Every single annual report of Public Health England only (briefly) references a flu pandemic and these do not need mass testing in the same way.
These are all facts - so we can be playing the blame game in politics but in reality our destiny is probably predetermined. An earlier lockdown would probably have saved “x” lives just like a later lockdown would cost “y” lives, but there is no way we could ever have done a South Korea who were prepared for this after SARS.
Best thing to do, batten down the hatches, beat it, then move on without recrimination. Then build a new Britain heeding the lessons of the old one (more self sufficiency for a start).
They're going to hide hoping it goes away. Which it won't.Lowbankclaret wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 11:02 am
The biggest question now is how the hell we get out of lockdown, luckily Italy and Spain will be working that out ahead of us and we can hopefully learn from them.
It my current thought about where we will end up, looking at numbers in Italy and Spain and our current rate of deaths.
Took the dogs out this morning, you can see the increased footfall by the condition of the pathways. One of the paths I use, I had to strim the last two years it’s was so unused. It will not need it this year, the path is twice as wide already.
Who are the idiots?Lowbankclaret wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 12:28 pmTook the dogs out this morning, you can see the increased footfall by the condition of the pathways. One of the paths I use, I had to strim the last two years it’s was so unused. It will not need it this year, the path is twice as wide already.
People were being very careful today, but the idiots will spoil it.
We didn't learn from them going into this...Lowbankclaret wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 11:02 amThe biggest question now is how the hell we get out of lockdown, luckily Italy and Spain will be working that out ahead of us and we can hopefully learn from them.
Getting out of lockdown will be like a tap being slowly turned on, I imagine.
The one that tells you if you've already had it, yes. However, this doesn't appear to be accurate enough.
Hopefully an accurate antibody test will be available at huge scale before the time comes to start the exit strategy. Without it people's liberty will continue to be restricted.FactualFrank wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:15 pmThe one that tells you if you've already had it, yes. However, this doesn't appear to be accurate enough.
That’s a fair assessment.
I'm bored.....Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:03 pmThe rules cater for a senseless minority, the vast overwhelming majority of people are all doing the right thing & probably would do with or without instructions, it’s all common sense about distances & avoiding large groups now.
Think you are right and 20,000 would be a great result for the first wave but judging by what happened a fortnight ago with the good weather, this weekend and Easter coming up that figure will be far exceeded. There will then be similar numbers for 2nd and 3rd waves,Lowbankclaret wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 11:36 amThat’s where I have issues with experts, any of us on here can see it’s going to hit his lower figure by Thursday/Friday next week. The upper 20,000 figure still hangs in the balance, as can be seen from the graph shared earlier currently our death rate is not slowing like Italy’s did. Let’s hope that starts today or it’s likely we overshoot the 20,000.
I am sure he knows this but does not want to say it will be between 20-40 k.
I don't think there was ever a majority (certainly on here) saying anything like that.paulatky wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:35 pmThink you are right and 20,000 would be a great result for the first wave but judging by what happened a fortnight ago with the good weather, this weekend and Easter coming up that figure will be far exceeded. There will then be similar numbers for 2nd and 3rd waves,
But looks like we both called this about right 6 weeks ago when the majority were saying “nowt but a bit of flu the elderly get”
I think our biggest issue is having relied on manufacturing outside of the UK , we appear to be struggling getting above 10,000 test a day. Three weeks later we still hadn’t last time I saw got above the 10,000 a day.FactualFrank wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:15 pmThe one that tells you if you've already had it, yes. However, this doesn't appear to be accurate enough.