Donald Trump

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Tue May 12, 2020 10:35 pm

FCBurnley wrote: ↑
Tue May 12, 2020 10:10 pm
Me too, Poor Joe.

One thing is for sure, your country is absolutely f'cked.

Mind you, the UK are not far behind.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Tue May 12, 2020 10:50 pm

The world is in a big mess ( except China). Still amazes me that people are defending China !!

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Tue May 12, 2020 11:04 pm

Don't think anyone really defended China.

It's just that one poster said we don't have all the facts so we can't criticise our UK government. Then criticised China without knowing all the facts. It was just a matter of pointing out how hypocritical that behaviour was.

fatboy47 · Post by **fatboy47** » Tue May 12, 2020 11:05 pm

Can the boards right wing not put up anybody with an IQ above single figures to argue Trump's corner ?

Even a Rowls type would be a massive upgrade on the grunting illiteracy of the intellectual no-marks fighting out of the blue corner on this thread.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue May 12, 2020 11:19 pm

fatboy47 wrote: ↑
Tue May 12, 2020 11:05 pm
Can the boards right wing not put up anybody with an IQ above single figures to argue Trump's corner ?

Even a Rowls type would be a massive upgrade on the grunting illiteracy of the intellectual no-marks fighting out of the blue corner on this thread.

Simple

for all the Trump supporters,if he's been such a great President,name 3 policies he's enacted,that have improved America,just 3 will do,after all he's been in office more than 3 years,so that's only 1 policy a year you need,it can't be that hard can it?

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Tue May 12, 2020 11:21 pm

tiger76 wrote: ↑
Tue May 12, 2020 11:19 pm
Simple for all the Trump supporters,if he's been such a great President,name 3 policies he's enacted,that have improved America,just 3 will do,after all he's been in office more than 3 years,so that's only 1 policy a year you need,it can't be that hard can it?

Yer, but, Biden hasn’t had any policies enacted.

AndrewJB · Post by **AndrewJB** » Tue May 12, 2020 11:26 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... s-or-china

So much for taking back control and forging ahead with an independent trade policy.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Wed May 13, 2020 11:36 am

keith1879 · Post by **keith1879** » Wed May 13, 2020 11:44 am

Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Tue May 12, 2020 11:21 pm
Yer, but, Biden hasn’t had any policies enacted.

and it would be worse if Corbyn was in charge

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Wed May 13, 2020 1:39 pm

fatboy47 wrote: ↑
Tue May 12, 2020 11:05 pm
Can the boards right wing not put up anybody with an IQ above single figures to argue Trump's corner ?

Even a Rowls type would be a massive upgrade on the grunting illiteracy of the intellectual no-marks fighting out of the blue corner on this thread.

I believe that is the definition of a paradox

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Wed May 13, 2020 2:41 pm

fatboy47 wrote: ↑
Tue May 12, 2020 11:05 pm
Can the boards right wing not put up anybody with an IQ above single figures to argue Trump's corner ?

Even a Rowls type would be a massive upgrade on the grunting illiteracy of the intellectual no-marks fighting out of the blue corner on this thread.

Dems are in the blue corner Fatboy. Even somebody with a super low IQ knows that !

Zlatan · Post by **Zlatan** » Wed May 13, 2020 2:59 pm

keith1879 wrote: ↑
Wed May 13, 2020 11:44 am
and it would be worse if Corbyn was in charge

That’s the one defence left isn’t it. I’ve noticed that any critique of any of the government on social media at all, even if it is attempting to praise them (furlough scheme) is met with “but what would commie Corbyn have done?”

It’s going to be the go to yardstick for governments of the future isn’t it... for governments of any type - yes, we seriously screwed up, but just think how bad it would have been if Corbyn was in charge...

Uwe Noble · Post by **Uwe Noble** » Wed May 13, 2020 4:11 pm

tiger76 wrote: ↑
Tue May 12, 2020 10:33 pm
He might yet be re-elected,but he'll have to turn the polls round,he achieved that in 2016,however he's now the incumbent,so it'll much harder for Trump to play the anti-establishment figure.

A new poll is out from Redfield and Whilton strategies testing differing levels of support in an ordinary election versus an exclusively vote-by-mail election (VBM isn't available in most states as of yet).

Ordinary VI:
Biden 47%
Trump 40%
Third party/write-in 4%
Undecided 9%

VBM VI:
Biden 48%
Trump 39%
Third party/write-in 4%
Undecided 9%

Congressional Democrats probably began their push for inclusion of nationwide VBM in coronavirus relief packages too late to be successful in this endeavour.

Never heard of them. I am happy, at least on this occasion, to quote from "Fake News Central (aka CNN) from a poll taken 5th May. I know you'll be delighted to hear that Donald Trump (or John

Trump as some on this board prefer to call him) has matched his highest approval ratings

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/05/politics ... index.html

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Wed May 13, 2020 4:30 pm

Interesting potential result from California but there is still time for the result to be rigged by the crooked Dems. Don’t forget they are playing in the red shirts according to Fatboy

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Wed May 13, 2020 4:30 pm

Zlatan wrote: ↑
Wed May 13, 2020 2:59 pm
That’s the one defence left isn’t it. I’ve noticed that any critique of any of the government on social media at all, even if it is attempting to praise them (furlough scheme) is met with “but what would commie Corbyn have done?”

It’s going to be the go to yardstick for governments of the future isn’t it... for governments of any type - yes, we seriously screwed up, but just think how bad it would have been if Corbyn was in charge...

Could be a bit more tricky to say that in the states though....who would you use for "just think how bad it would be if Donald Trump was not in charge ?"
Bill Cosby ?
Micky Mouse ?
Charles Bronson ?
The Statue of Liberty ?

Uwe Noble · Post by **Uwe Noble** » Wed May 13, 2020 4:43 pm

TVC15 wrote: ↑
Wed May 13, 2020 4:30 pm
Could be a bit more tricky to say that in the states though....who would you use for "just think how bad it would be if Donald Trump was not in charge ?"
Bill Cosby ?
Micky Mouse ?
Charles Bronson ?
The Statue of Liberty ?

Barack Obama (or Hussein Obama for those of you who insist on calling Trump "John")?

grapidianclaret · Post by **grapidianclaret** » Wed May 13, 2020 4:58 pm

Uwe Noble wrote: ↑
Wed May 13, 2020 4:43 pm
Barack Obama (or Hussein Obama for those of you who insist on calling Trump "John")?

Yeah,I will never forget having to stay home for seven weeks when he let the ebola pandemic rage through the country,calling it fake news,telling people to inject pool cleaner into ourselves.

Uwe Noble · Post by **Uwe Noble** » Wed May 13, 2020 5:03 pm

grapidianclaret wrote: ↑
Wed May 13, 2020 4:58 pm
Yeah,I will never forget having to stay home for seven weeks when he let the ebola pandemic rage through the country,calling it fake news,telling people to inject pool cleaner into ourselves.

Notice how the Chinese Communist Party are given a pass here.

grapidianclaret · Post by **grapidianclaret** » Wed May 13, 2020 5:04 pm

grapidianclaret · Post by **grapidianclaret** » Wed May 13, 2020 5:07 pm

Damn those Democrats. Making China part of Africa.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Wed May 13, 2020 5:19 pm

Once again Fatboy47s post above is proved beyond all doubt.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Wed May 13, 2020 5:22 pm

How’s the message forging business going Grapidian ?

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Wed May 13, 2020 5:23 pm

TVC15 wrote: ↑
Wed May 13, 2020 5:19 pm
Once again Fatboy47s post above is proved beyond all doubt.

Is that the one where he thinks the GOP are in the blue corner ?

grapidianclaret · Post by **grapidianclaret** » Wed May 13, 2020 5:28 pm

FCBurnley wrote: ↑
Wed May 13, 2020 5:22 pm
How’s the message forging business going Grapidian ?

Great. How's the name twisting racism business FC?

Erasmus · Post by **Erasmus** » Wed May 13, 2020 5:31 pm

FC Burnley, sorry I only occasionally dip into these discussions, but did you ever explain why you used the name Hussein for Obama? There must have been a reason why you chose to do that and it might make things clearer if you could explain your thoughts that led to you doing that. I think you said you did it because 'it's his name' but there must have been something else in your mind that prompted you to write that. What was it?

grapidianclaret · Post by **grapidianclaret** » Wed May 13, 2020 5:33 pm

Erasmus wrote: ↑
Wed May 13, 2020 5:31 pm
FC Burnley, sorry I only occasionally dip into these discussions, but did you ever explain why you used the name Hussein for Obama? There must have been a reason why you chose to do that and it might make things clearer if you could explain your thoughts that led to you doing that. I think you said you did it because 'it's his name' but there must have been something else in your mind that prompted you to write that. What was it?

Bigotry would be my guess

grapidianclaret · Post by **grapidianclaret** » Wed May 13, 2020 5:34 pm

But at least he wished everyone in America a happy mother's day,so no harm ,no foul .

Uwe Noble · Post by **Uwe Noble** » Wed May 13, 2020 6:22 pm

grapidianclaret wrote: ↑
Wed May 13, 2020 5:28 pm
Great. How's the name twisting racism business FC?

There you go, they just can't help themselves. You've hurt my feelings, I can't think of a response - you're an evil wacist !!

grapidianclaret · Post by **grapidianclaret** » Wed May 13, 2020 7:13 pm

Uwe Noble wrote: ↑
Wed May 13, 2020 6:22 pm
There you go, they just can't help themselves. You've hurt my feelings, I can't think of a response - you're an evil wacist !!

You silly goose!

Stepper

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Wed May 13, 2020 7:16 pm

How’s halfwit doing ? Still popular as ever

grapidianclaret · Post by **grapidianclaret** » Wed May 13, 2020 7:24 pm

Uwe,FC has a question for you.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Wed May 13, 2020 8:04 pm

Uwe Noble wrote: ↑
Wed May 13, 2020 5:03 pm
Notice how the Chinese Communist Party are given a pass here.

This will please you then Uwe.

FBI warns Covid-19 research groups of China hacking threat

Gordon Carrera

BBC Security correspondent

The US FBI and Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) have issued a Public Service Announcement warning groups researching Covid-19 of likely targeting and network compromise by China.

The UK and US had already issued a detailed joint warning about other countries targeting research back on 5 May.

On that occasion, they did not officially name names but sources indicated China, Russia and Iran were among those responsible.

Now, in a widely trailed move, the US has decided to single out China specifically with this new advisory.

So far they have not been joined by the UK and the new alert does not contain any new details of what has taken place.

That means this may well be interpreted as a means of both playing to a domestic audience and of raising the pressure on China as part of the growing tension between Washington and Beijing.

Uwe Noble · Post by **Uwe Noble** » Wed May 13, 2020 8:17 pm

Huge news just out in US. Confirmation that Obama and Biden were spying on Flynn in Trump Tower. Remember how you all scoffed when Trump said he was being wiretapped?

Uwe Noble · Post by **Uwe Noble** » Wed May 13, 2020 8:23 pm

Huge news just out in US. Confirmation that Obama and Biden were spying on Flynn in Trump Tower. Remember how you all scoffed when Trump said he was being wiretapped? https://twitter.com/CBS_Herridge/status ... 42254?s=19

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Wed May 13, 2020 8:25 pm

U.S. intelligence was investigating Flynn pre-election. That's why Obama told Trump, "don't hire him." And Trump pal Chris Christie said, "don't hire him." But Trump liked Flynn's secret Russia dealings—so he hired him. The feds continued investigating him because it's their job.

Republicans are so up their own butts on Mike Flynn that *every* critique they make of the Obama administration *starts* from an assumption no one in law enforcement shares—that there was no basis to investigate him. Of course there *was* and the feds were doing their *jobs*.

It would've been *gross dereliction of duty* if the FBI and CIA hadn't tracked Mike Flynn pre- and post-election—*not* because he was a Trump adviser, but because *he was working to sell U.S. foreign policy to hostile foreign powers.* - Obama *tried* to save Trump and failed.

Consider: if Obama and Biden were secretly trying to ensnare Trump, why the *hell* did Obama directly tell Trump not to hire Flynn? It's one of the chief questions no Trumpist conspiracy theorist can explain: why did Obama try to *warn* Trump, if he was trying to *hurt* him?

bfcmik · Post by **bfcmik** » Wed May 13, 2020 8:36 pm

keith1879 wrote: ↑
Wed May 13, 2020 11:44 am
and it would be worse if Corbyn was in charge

And you have evidence for that? Or do you just rely on the rantings and ramblings of the S*n, Daily Mail or Daily Express editorials?

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Wed May 13, 2020 8:38 pm

bfcmik wrote: ↑
Wed May 13, 2020 8:36 pm
And you have evidence for that? Or do you just rely on the rantings and ramblings of the S*n, Daily Mail or Daily Express editorials?

Well hello there old boy!

Uwe Noble · Post by **Uwe Noble** » Wed May 13, 2020 8:45 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑
Wed May 13, 2020 8:25 pm
U.S. intelligence was investigating Flynn pre-election. That's why Obama told Trump, "don't hire him." And Trump pal Chris Christie said, "don't hire him." But Trump liked Flynn's secret Russia dealings—so he hired him. The feds continued investigating him because it's their job.

Republicans are so up their own butts on Mike Flynn that *every* critique they make of the Obama administration *starts* from an assumption no one in law enforcement shares—that there was no basis to investigate him. Of course there *was* and the feds were doing their *jobs*.

It would've been *gross dereliction of duty* if the FBI and CIA hadn't tracked Mike Flynn pre- and post-election—*not* because he was a Trump adviser, but because *he was working to sell U.S. foreign policy to hostile foreign powers.* - Obama *tried* to save Trump and failed.

Consider: if Obama and Biden were secretly trying to ensnare Trump, why the *hell* did Obama directly tell Trump not to hire Flynn? It's one of the chief questions no Trumpist conspiracy theorist can explain: why did Obama try to *warn* Trump, if he was trying to *hurt* him?

Stop bloviating, this is huge, Biden is finished. You can't unmask an American citizen it's illegal. We have only just learnt that there was no legal basis for Flynn to be even questioned by the FBI. So what the hell were they doing listening into the conversations of a political opponent who was about to come into office as National Security Advisor? The question now is how much was Obama implicated.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Wed May 13, 2020 8:53 pm

Uwe Noble wrote: ↑
Wed May 13, 2020 8:45 pm
Stop bloviating, this is huge, Biden is finished. You can't unmask an American citizen it's illegal. We have only just learnt that there was no legal basis for Flynn to be even questioned by the FBI. So what the hell were they doing listening into the conversations of a political opponent who was about to come into office as National Security Advisor? The question now is how much was Obama implicated.

We shall see but I've read plenty of good serious investigate journalism on this over the last few years whilst you just get excited whenever the Trump propaganda machine whips up a frenzy.

Flynn was a wrong'un and so was being monitored by the FBI and Feds
Trump was warned he was a wrong'un
Trump ignored the warning and hired him (prob cos he was a wrong'un with links to Russia)
Flynn continued to be monitored because he was a wrong'un and not because he worked for Trump

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Wed May 13, 2020 11:17 pm

Just been announced that Republican Mike Garcia has won Katie Hills old seat in California. Final results not in but would appear to be a significant victory. A major win for Donald Trump in the predominantly blue state. The GOP also won in Wisconsin. Been a bad day for the left

Taffy on the wing · Post by **Taffy on the wing** » Thu May 14, 2020 12:03 am

California's 25th district is around Santa Clarita and Lancaster.......Largely white trash/Trump country.
A bunch of NRA card carrying, freedom bumper sticker displaying, Fox News watching, anti-immigrant empty heads.....Probably similar to yourself FC, and your mate Uwe.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Thu May 14, 2020 12:14 am

Fox news and its team really landed a blow for Team Trump on Obamagate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... e=emb_logo

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Thu May 14, 2020 12:50 am

still thinks that Covid is age related https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1260 ... 18625?s=20

Dumbest ****** to ever be President

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Thu May 14, 2020 6:34 am

Fauci’s warning “not acceptable” according to Disinfectant Don.
He’s really envious of North Korea isn’t he.

Swizzlestick · Post by **Swizzlestick** » Thu May 14, 2020 7:23 am

Disinfectant Don

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Thu May 14, 2020 10:40 am

I see the Don has been infecting Twitter again.

Trump: '100 Trade Deals' can't outweigh Covid-19
In January, Donald Trump and Chinese Vice Premier Liu He signed a "Phase One" trade deal. As part of the deal, China pledged to boost US imports by $200bn above 2017 levels and strengthen intellectual property rules.

It was meant to pave the way for a more wide-ranging deal - but the chances of a resolution to the trade dispute now seem increasingly remote.

On Twitter yesterday, Donald Trump said any benefits from the trade deal with China were outweighed by what he called "the plague from China".

Mr Trump has also extended for another year an executive order banning US firms from using telecoms equipment made by companies - such as Huawei - that his administration says pose a national security risk.

Amazed he's got the time given his hectic schedule.

fatboy47 · Post by **fatboy47** » Thu May 14, 2020 10:57 am

Taffy on the wing wrote: ↑
Thu May 14, 2020 12:03 am
California's 25th district is around Santa Clarita and Lancaster.......Largely white trash/Trump country.
A bunch of NRA card carrying, freedom bumper sticker displaying, Fox News watching, anti-immigrant empty heads.....Probably similar to yourself FC, and your mate Uwe.

Uwe Noble · Post by **Uwe Noble** » Thu May 14, 2020 11:06 am

Taffy on the wing wrote: ↑
Thu May 14, 2020 12:03 am
California's 25th district is around Santa Clarita and Lancaster.......Largely white trash/Trump country.
A bunch of NRA card carrying, freedom bumper sticker displaying, Fox News watching, anti-immigrant empty heads.....Probably similar to yourself FC, and your mate Uwe.

Just substitute the word "black" or "Muslim" for "white" in that comment and there would be uproar from the usual suspects on this board. I think this comment - "white trash" needs to be deleted now.

Greenmile · Post by **Greenmile** » Thu May 14, 2020 11:10 am

Uwe Noble wrote: ↑
Thu May 14, 2020 11:06 am
Just substitute the word "black" or "Muslim" for "white" in that comment and there would be uproar from the usual suspects on this board. I think this comment - "white trash" needs to be deleted now.

There you go, they just can't help themselves. You've hurt my feelings, I can't think of a response - you're an evil wacist !!

Incidentally, do you often find yourself being called a racist when you express your firmly held beliefs and opinions, and do you think it’s always because your interlocutor can’t think of a response, or do you think there could be another reason, perhaps?

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Thu May 14, 2020 11:11 am