Scrap the transfer window

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Woodleyclaret
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Scrap the transfer window

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sat May 30, 2020 6:11 am

In the past the selling of players was a lifeline ,financially, for clubs struggling to pay creditors usually the HMRC tax bills. In the current climate of finacial uncertainty, maybe its time again to allow the sale and recruitment of players to revert to a whole season long one.

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Re: Scrap the transfer window

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat May 30, 2020 6:49 am

How would you feel if the club sold Pope when we had 5-10 games left and we were fighting relegation or pushing for Europe?
See Barcelona signing Braithwaite if you aren't sure how stupid the idea is.

Clubs struggle to pay their bills through poor financial management, season long transfer options won't resolve that issue.

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Re: Scrap the transfer window

Post by RammyClaret61 » Sat May 30, 2020 7:04 am

The transfer window is to stop the rich clubs just buying the best players from rivals towards the end of the season. You set your stall out, then go with it. Fine tune in January. For me, I’d scrap the January window. What you start the season with, you finish it. Then window from 1st June till the last Tuesday in August. Then “slammed” shut.
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Re: Scrap the transfer window

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Sat May 30, 2020 7:16 am

I’d scrap it with the proviso that clubs have a 25 man squad for the season. 1 in, 1 out.
The point above about Nick Pope is irrelevant. If he is under contract you don’t have to sell and many is the time we have had to sell. Let’s pray Charlie Austin was the last
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Re: Scrap the transfer window

Post by beddie » Sat May 30, 2020 7:55 am

I agree with rammys post. Also agree with huw about Charlie Austin, mention of Austin just made me think what a marvellous job Dyche is doing, he really doesn't get enough credit for it.

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Re: Scrap the transfer window

Post by Foulthrow » Sat May 30, 2020 8:48 am

Surely the transfer window benefits big clubs? They have the money to recruit over and above their 25 man squad and leave out anyone they don’t need or loan them out. Meanwhile, smaller clubs are forced to pay over the odds or gamble on new recruits as the window draws to a close as they fear being left short in one position. Would we have really bought Joe Hart were it not for the window.

Under the old system you couldn’t recruit players towards the back end of the season anyway.

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Re: Scrap the transfer window

Post by Steve1956 » Sat May 30, 2020 8:58 am

If its gets Jim White off our screens I'm up for scrapping the transfer window.

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Re: Scrap the transfer window

Post by Paul Waine » Sat May 30, 2020 9:32 am

I'd scrap agents fees. Clubs can have their scouting staff. Clubs can even have their "we have a player we want to sell staff." If footballers want to have the advice and assistance for someone independent of the club they play for advising them, then the player pays it out of his (and her) own income (leave it to tax systems to determine if this is a "business expense" and so paid by player before or after tax). Clubs must never pay agent fees - points reduction penalties to ensure this rule strictly observed. Staff employed by football club can only work for that one football club - whether they are the scouting (buying-in) or "player to sell" staff. People advising footballers can not, at the same time, be employed by any football club. Footballers are responsible for any "leaks of discussions/advice" they may or may not be having with the personal advisors. So, any media reports that player X would like a move to "big club" would be responsibility of the player - and may be the "big club" would be banned from signing that player through the period of their current contract.

Anyone think my proposed changes may even things up a little?

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Re: Scrap the transfer window

Post by mdd2 » Sat May 30, 2020 9:44 am

The negotiated fee would then include, but never seen, the agents' fees, so the Club will still end up paying them.
The only way forward would be if agents were banned but that would not be in a player's interest. An alternative would be for the PFA to employ agents and maybe that would stop the present system where it seems agents engineer moves of players so that the agents can swell their bank balances

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Re: Scrap the transfer window

Post by ClaretTony » Sat May 30, 2020 9:59 am

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Sat May 30, 2020 6:11 am
In the past the selling of players was a lifeline ,financially, for clubs struggling to pay creditors usually the HMRC tax bills. In the current climate of finacial uncertainty, maybe its time again to allow the sale and recruitment of players to revert to a whole season long one.
It was never a whole season so that's something you can't revert to - there was always a transfer deadline.

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Re: Scrap the transfer window

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Sat May 30, 2020 10:15 am

mdd2 wrote:
Sat May 30, 2020 9:44 am
An alternative would be for the PFA to employ agents and maybe that would stop the present system where it seems agents engineer moves of players so that the agents can swell their bank balances
The PFA are available to act as agents if requested.

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Re: Scrap the transfer window

Post by Darnhill Claret » Sat May 30, 2020 11:41 am

Just include December in the winter transfer window. December 1st until Jan 31st.

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Re: Scrap the transfer window

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat May 30, 2020 11:50 am

huw.Y.WattfromWare wrote:
Sat May 30, 2020 7:16 am
I’d scrap it with the proviso that clubs have a 25 man squad for the season. 1 in, 1 out.
The point above about Nick Pope is irrelevant. If he is under contract you don’t have to sell and many is the time we have had to sell. Let’s pray Charlie Austin was the last
We may not have to sell but if it was Chelsea looking to sign him and we refused, it could potentially unsettle him, so it's definitely relevant at a crucial time of the season.

Barca took the **** with that Braithwaite signing potentially relegating his former club.

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Re: Scrap the transfer window

Post by Chester Perry » Sat May 30, 2020 12:03 pm

Foulthrow wrote:
Sat May 30, 2020 8:48 am
Surely the transfer window benefits big clubs? They have the money to recruit over and above their 25 man squad and leave out anyone they don’t need or loan them out. Meanwhile, smaller clubs are forced to pay over the odds or gamble on new recruits as the window draws to a close as they fear being left short in one position. Would we have really bought Joe Hart were it not for the window.

Under the old system you couldn’t recruit players towards the back end of the season anyway.
and buy the key player of your poorer over achieving competitor to weaken them as they were approaching the prize-giving portion of the season

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Re: Scrap the transfer window

Post by Tall Paul » Sat May 30, 2020 12:09 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Sat May 30, 2020 8:58 am
If its gets Jim White off our screens I'm up for scrapping the transfer window.
There's a much easier way to get him off your screen, or doesn't your telly have an "off" button?

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Re: Scrap the transfer window

Post by Steve1956 » Sat May 30, 2020 12:14 pm

Tall Paul wrote:
Sat May 30, 2020 12:09 pm
There's a much easier way to get him off your screen, or doesn't your telly have an "off" button?
:D it probably does buddy but I ain't got a clue were it is the tele never gets switched off on this household 😉
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Re: Scrap the transfer window

Post by Dyched » Sat May 30, 2020 12:16 pm

Without agents clubs will take advantage of players.

I read somewhere this week that David Jones didn’t have an agent when he was a young lad at Man U. So Gary Neville and Roy Keane stepped in to make sure Man U didn’t try it on and he got what he was worth.

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Re: Scrap the transfer window

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Sat May 30, 2020 1:39 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Sat May 30, 2020 12:03 pm
and buy the key player of your poorer over achieving competitor to weaken them as they were approaching the prize-giving portion of the season
Exactly what our NEIGHbours did when they signed Duncan Shearer from Swindon. Swindon plummeted and they went up.

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Re: Scrap the transfer window

Post by Quicknick » Sat May 30, 2020 4:27 pm

RammyClaret61 wrote:
Sat May 30, 2020 7:04 am
The transfer window is to stop the rich clubs just buying the best players from rivals towards the end of the season. You set your stall out, then go with it. Fine tune in January. For me, I’d scrap the January window. What you start the season with, you finish it. Then window from 1st June till the last Tuesday in August. Then “slammed” shut.
Totally agree. I particularly like the idea of a long summer window.

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