What is it that she said?Rileybobs wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:06 pm‘Katie Hopkins has been permanently suspended from Twitter for violating its hateful conduct policy.’
Having freedom of speech is one thing, being suspended from a forum such as Twitter or Uptheclarets for breaking the rules of said forum is not violating freedom of speech.
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Must have been something awful actually, given that Jimmy Savilles mate still has an account after stating he Hope's pensioners with different political views than him die
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Yeah fingers crossed they explain what it's for. Always assumed it was an open forum, and not policed according to which side of the political extremes opinions were voiced from
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Someone knowingly being a **** is still a ****. You can't defend it.Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:39 pmBrilliant.
Calling someone a stupid bitch who knows what she's doing.
Have you been on the pink gin?
If anyone is upset by her, just block her on social media and have a better life.
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Depends how you define an open forum? There are rules, and she appears to have broken them. When people break the rules on this forum they also get a ban. Get your knickers in a twist about political extremes if you want but siding with someone who spreads hate does you no favours.
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I replied supporting Marcus Rashfords tweet to her (telling her to f off) the other day.Rileybobs wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:52 pmDepends how you define an open forum? There are rules, and she appears to have broken them. When people break the rules on this forum they also get a ban. Get your knickers in a twist about political extremes if you want but siding with someone who spreads hate does you no favours.
I dont follow her or agree with what she says
Not sure why you think I'm siding with her.
I'd just rather have her saying things people dont agree with openly then it can be dealt with, as opposed to anonymous people, using encryption or whatever to gather a following.
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It seemed like you were siding with her, apologies if I misunderstood.Damo wrote: ↑Sat Jun 20, 2020 12:11 amI replied supporting Marcus Rashfords tweet to her (telling her to f off) the other day.
I dont follow her or agree with what she says
Not sure why you think I'm siding with her.
I'd just rather have her saying things people dont agree with openly then it can be dealt with, as opposed to anonymous people, using encryption or whatever to gather a following.
There’s a fine line between allowing someone to have their say and allowing them to spread hatred. Twitter has a set of rules and if a user breaks those rules they can be prevented from using that platform. It seems on this occasion that it has been dealt with. Surely you aren’t happy with people being allowed to post any old filth on there?
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I’ve not really heard from Terry Christian for about 20 years so I don’t have an axe to grind either way with him. But his comment seems to be very much in jest, even if it may be regarded as bad taste. If he was issued a warning for that post then I wouldn’t object. If he kept posting similar things after his warning then I also wouldn’t be opposed to him being permanently suspended. These people can find somewhere else to spread their views, Twitter has every right to suspend users who break their rules.
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I get that twitter can ban people that they dont want on their platform. But I always assumed it only did that in circumstances where people crossed the line when it comes it legality, slander, inciting violence etc.Rileybobs wrote: ↑Sat Jun 20, 2020 12:20 amIt seemed like you were siding with her, apologies if I misunderstood.
There’s a fine line between allowing someone to have their say and allowing them to spread hatred. Twitter has a set of rules and if a user breaks those rules they can be prevented from using that platform. It seems on this occasion that it has been dealt with. Surely you aren’t happy with people being allowed to post any old filth on there?
If she has encroached those boundaries then fair enough.
But if she has been banned for posting things that are unpalatable then they are proposing themselves as arbiter's of free speech.
They need to explain why and what it is she has said that has brought about her censorship on there, otherwise it will die on it's own sword.
I hold that opinion for anyone that posts anything that isnt necessarily what people want to read/hear
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Think she told someone to go back to there origin if they didn't like it in the UK its just about silencing people especially ones with large followers alot worse posted on Twitter that gets ignored..
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She has been banned for violating Twitters hateful conduct policy. I don’t think the hateful conduct needs to be given any more airtime by further publishing of the tweets. They’ve been deleted for a reason. I wouldn’t expect Twitter to publicly explain the reasons for every person they decide to suspend.Damo wrote: ↑Sat Jun 20, 2020 12:32 amI get that twitter can ban people that they dont want on their platform. But I always assumed it only did that in circumstances where people crossed the line when it comes it legality, slander, inciting violence etc.
If she has encroached those boundaries then fair enough.
But if she has been banned for posting things that are unpalatable then they are proposing themselves as arbiter's of free speech.
They need to explain why and what it is she has said that has brought about her censorship on there, otherwise it will die on it's own sword.
I hold that opinion for anyone that posts anything that isnt necessarily what people want to read/hear
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Obviously it’s impossible to police every single tweet so it stands to reason that those with the most followers will attract the most attention and therefore complaints. It’s more harmful for hatred to be spread by someone with 1 million followers than someone with 32 followers.Sheedyclaret wrote: ↑Sat Jun 20, 2020 12:33 amThink she told someone to go back to there origin if they didn't like it in the UK its just about silencing people especially ones with large followers alot worse posted on Twitter that gets ignored..
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One of the worst things you can call someone in the current climate, is racist. And yet you don't need any evidence, it can just be thrown around like confetti, it doesn't seem to matter.
Folk on here and on other social media platforms don't know how much of a big deal it is to call someone a racist.
It's boring and it dilutes.
(Just a general rant and not about whether that awful woman should be banned from Twitter or not)
Folk on here and on other social media platforms don't know how much of a big deal it is to call someone a racist.
It's boring and it dilutes.
(Just a general rant and not about whether that awful woman should be banned from Twitter or not)
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So are we allowed to call racist people like Katie Hopkins racist?Bin Ont Turf wrote: ↑Sat Jun 20, 2020 12:44 amOne of the worst things you can call someone in the current climate, is racist. And yet you don't need any evidence, it can just be thrown around like confetti, it doesn't seem to matter.
Folk on here and on other social media platforms don't know how much of a big deal it is to call someone a racist.
It's boring and it dilutes.
(Just a general rant and not about whether that awful woman should be banned from Twitter or not)
The problem I see is that people are now using the argument that you can’t call people racists because it dilutes the meaning of the term.
There are different levels of racism. You don’t have to have a swastika tattoo on your head and beat up black people to be racist. Some elderly people who are ignorant to the changing times are also racist, I have some sympathy for them because it is their ingrained ignorance rather than spiteful hatred that makes them racist. But they are racist nonetheless.
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You can call Katie Hopkins or anyone else whatever you want Rileybobs.
If we have 'different levels of racism' then that is the problem.
I'm off t' sack now, after I've listened to this.........
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8D8Kp_ ... rt_radio=1
If we have 'different levels of racism' then that is the problem.
I'm off t' sack now, after I've listened to this.........
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8D8Kp_ ... rt_radio=1
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My point being that there are those that are knowingly racist, and those who don’t know they are. I’m sure a lot of our grandparents, for example, threw around terms that wouldn’t be acceptable today. By definition, even if those comments were made in ignorance they were racist.Bin Ont Turf wrote: ↑Sat Jun 20, 2020 1:04 amYou can call Katie Hopkins or anyone else whatever you want Rileybobs.
If we have 'different levels of racism' then that is the problem.
I'm off t' sack now, after I've listened to this.........
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8D8Kp_ ... rt_radio=1
Anyhow, excellent tune. Good night.
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Made 2 very valid points the other day on a video I saw, but other than that, I dont see much of her as not on twitter.
Presume she's like lots of vloggers, bloggers and such like.
Gets all the attention she needs through trying to be controversial and/or fake.
Ironically the ones who give them what they crave the most, are usually the ones who have opposite views, opinions and detest them.
Milking them for time, publicity and indirectly they keep her in work, in the media and their pockets lined.
Very clever.
Sometimes you've to play the fool, to fool the fool, that thinks they're fooling you.
Presume she's like lots of vloggers, bloggers and such like.
Gets all the attention she needs through trying to be controversial and/or fake.
Ironically the ones who give them what they crave the most, are usually the ones who have opposite views, opinions and detest them.
Milking them for time, publicity and indirectly they keep her in work, in the media and their pockets lined.
Very clever.
Sometimes you've to play the fool, to fool the fool, that thinks they're fooling you.
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I'm not defending anyone.ClaretAndJew wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:50 pmSomeone knowingly being a **** is still a ****. You can't defend it.
Your phrase made me laugh. Calling someone stupid but knowing what she was doing. It sort of counters itself.
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She may be vile, she may be racist, but if they stop her twitter account, and other outlets you drive this sort of thing underground and more dangerous. I'm absolutely certain that there's no no discussion about curtailing Diane Abbotts free speech
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And what has Diane Abbot said that is offensive, racist, incites violence etc?
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She's someone who needs to disappear into the wilderness and to be never seen or heard of again in the media. Hopefully this will help.
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"that's the trouble with white people, they want to divide and rule"ClaretAndJew wrote: ↑Sat Jun 20, 2020 10:21 amAnd what has Diane Abbot said that is offensive, racist, incites violence etc?
Watch Andrew Neil's interview with her on you tube, and see what a vile disgusting racist she is.
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People who could perhaps be racist & unaware that they could be or who don’t that they are may not be, it’s a very complex issue & open to interpretation, nowadays you can say something completely harmless oblivious to what you are saying & offend millions of people at the drop of a hat, society & culture is so class divided & mixed, by your own admission you’ve touched & recognised the generational differences & tolerances have shifted in opposite directions from say a few decades previously.Rileybobs wrote: ↑Sat Jun 20, 2020 1:12 amMy point being that there are those that are knowingly racist, and those who don’t know they are. I’m sure a lot of our grandparents, for example, threw around terms that wouldn’t be acceptable today. By definition, even if those comments were made in ignorance they were racist.
Anyhow, excellent tune. Good night.
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Presunably she meant stop it. I dont know how she would do that. Did she say?ClaretAndJew wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:30 pmShe once called for a "Final Solution" to the immigration problem. She's a ******* stupid bitch who knows exactly what she is doing and her brand is to say things she probably doesn't even believe. Good riddance.
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Your absolutely right. What is racist to someo e is not to someone else and since the coming of the snowflake and Woke generation the bar is now set very low.Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Sat Jun 20, 2020 12:41 pmPeople who could perhaps be racist & unaware that they could be or who don’t that they are may not be, it’s a very complex issue & open to interpretation, nowadays you can say something completely harmless oblivious to what you are saying & offend millions of people at the drop of a hat, society & culture is so class divided & mixed, by your own admission you’ve touched & the recognised the generational differences & tolerances have shifted in opposite directions from say a few decades previously.
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She used it in response to the Manchester bombing as needing a final solution to the problem of Islam and Muslims in the same way the Nazi's called for a final solution with regards the Jews.
This is one tweet there is no defense for unless your happy for Nazi ideas from the holocaust to be promoted as solutions to problems in todays society
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......but Twitter doesn't seem to have any problems with this tweet
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Then 27 people retweet it. Probably be a few more when they get back from their BLM protest
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Nor is there any outrage or discust, what did Rabb actually do? Refused to do as he is told by BLM therefore must be a racist. BLM are simply out to create division and hostility, they even blocked an airport runway because the pollution affects black people, that's right, pollution is racist. They are an embarrassed to a lot of black people, who like me simply want racial harmony
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More a noticeable observation that certain posters are very eager to judge & :brand other posters as racist or alleging there could be without asking the appropriate questions & neglecting any sort of analysis with the content of the posts.
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I really don’t understand why the racists on here get so upset about being called racists. Be proud of who you are for goodness’ sake.
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It's because your definition of racist is anybody who has a different opinion to you. People who see racism are called race biters, very much more dangerous, is that you?
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No it isn’t. My definition of racist is somebody who is prejudiced against other people because of their race. And there’s plenty on here.
I’ve no idea what a race biter is so I wouldn’t know if that applies to me.
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I've heard of race baiter, but not race biter.
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Suarez is a racist and a biter. Does that help?
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Some of the nut jobs on here jump on the vile tweet from the left extremist (who is a nobody with 200 followers and whose tweets will be seen by about as many people who will see this post of mine) and get excited that Twitter is part of the Left agenda where the right get censored and the left say what they want
You are all obviously clueless to what Twitter consists of and how it works. It is full of thousands of accounts (mostly faceless and predominately far right racist and homophobic ) who use it to post hateful and disgusting stuff. Im sure Twitter deletes, suspends and bans accounts but these nobodys can just create another. Individually their voice is unheard and so people wont see the tweets to report them and Twitter is not going to police millions of individual nobodys
Where someone has thousands of followers and much more of their Tweet sand opinions are spread far and wide they will look to uphold their rules around hate speech and inciting violence but even then they give hundreds of warnings and need thousands of people to report things. It takes and awful lot of prolonged and repetitive vile tweeting to get banned but over many years this is what Hopkins has done
To give some context to what goes on and how its not a leftist controlled agenda yesterday Ash Sarkar posted a picture of her at a park eating an ice lolly. Following the Reading incident she has received a torrent of abuse including death threats. Below are some of the tweets that have not been removed by the culprits once people started sharing them for all to see
Remember this is one picture from a young lady sitting in a park eating an ice lolly enjoying the sun and by the way this is exactly the kind of hate towards brown people that Hopkins consistently tries to stoke up and incite
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https://twitter.com/JOHNHAR33008313/sta ... 7747415041
https://twitter.com/Becky_Bongos/status ... 6755150848
https://twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/12 ... 6513213441
https://twitter.com/AlisonW37619617/sta ... 8711713794
https://twitter.com/aliMMA/status/1274490223427309570
https://twitter.com/DJBURNS_was/status/ ... 7036826625
https://twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/12 ... 6840312832
https://twitter.com/Schwaglads/status/1 ... 3745321989
You are all obviously clueless to what Twitter consists of and how it works. It is full of thousands of accounts (mostly faceless and predominately far right racist and homophobic ) who use it to post hateful and disgusting stuff. Im sure Twitter deletes, suspends and bans accounts but these nobodys can just create another. Individually their voice is unheard and so people wont see the tweets to report them and Twitter is not going to police millions of individual nobodys
Where someone has thousands of followers and much more of their Tweet sand opinions are spread far and wide they will look to uphold their rules around hate speech and inciting violence but even then they give hundreds of warnings and need thousands of people to report things. It takes and awful lot of prolonged and repetitive vile tweeting to get banned but over many years this is what Hopkins has done
To give some context to what goes on and how its not a leftist controlled agenda yesterday Ash Sarkar posted a picture of her at a park eating an ice lolly. Following the Reading incident she has received a torrent of abuse including death threats. Below are some of the tweets that have not been removed by the culprits once people started sharing them for all to see
Remember this is one picture from a young lady sitting in a park eating an ice lolly enjoying the sun and by the way this is exactly the kind of hate towards brown people that Hopkins consistently tries to stoke up and incite
Original Tweet
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https://twitter.com/JOHNHAR33008313/sta ... 7747415041
https://twitter.com/Becky_Bongos/status ... 6755150848
https://twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/12 ... 6513213441
https://twitter.com/AlisonW37619617/sta ... 8711713794
https://twitter.com/aliMMA/status/1274490223427309570
https://twitter.com/DJBURNS_was/status/ ... 7036826625
https://twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/12 ... 6840312832
https://twitter.com/Schwaglads/status/1 ... 3745321989
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You’re just a race biter and you’re far more dangerous than those decent lads replying to Ash Sarkar.Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑Sun Jun 21, 2020 11:08 amSome of the nut jobs on here jump on the vile tweet from the left extremist (who is a nobody with 200 followers and whose tweets will be seen by about as many people who will see this post of mine) and get excited that Twitter is part of the Left agenda where the right get censored and the left say what they want
You are all obviously clueless to what Twitter consists of and how it works. It is full of thousands of accounts (mostly faceless and predominately far right racist and homophobic ) who use it to post hateful and disgusting stuff. Im sure Twitter deletes, suspends and bans accounts but these nobodys can just create another. Individually their voice is unheard and so people wont see the tweets to report them and Twitter is not going to police millions of individual nobodys
Where someone has thousands of followers and much more of their Tweet sand opinions are spread far and wide they will look to uphold their rules around hate speech and inciting violence but even then they give hundreds of warnings and need thousands of people to report things. It takes and awful lot of prolonged and repetitive vile tweeting to get banned but over many years this is what Hopkins has done
To give some context to what goes on and how its not a leftist controlled agenda yesterday Ash Sarkar posted a picture of her at a park eating an ice lolly. Following the Reading incident she has received a torrent of abuse including death threats. Below are some of the tweets that have not been removed by the culprits once people started sharing them for all to see
Remember this is one picture from a young lady sitting in a park eating an ice lolly enjoying the sun and by the way this is exactly the kind of hate towards brown people that Hopkins consistently tries to stoke up and incite
Original Tweet
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https://twitter.com/JOHNHAR33008313/sta ... 7747415041
https://twitter.com/Becky_Bongos/status ... 6755150848
https://twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/12 ... 6513213441
https://twitter.com/AlisonW37619617/sta ... 8711713794
https://twitter.com/aliMMA/status/1274490223427309570
https://twitter.com/DJBURNS_was/status/ ... 7036826625
https://twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/12 ... 6840312832
https://twitter.com/Schwaglads/status/1 ... 3745321989
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Some belting replies to that one.
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Hideous tweet but absolutely no need to post it on here.Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑Sun Jun 21, 2020 11:08 amSome of the nut jobs on here jump on the vile tweet from the left extremist (who is a nobody with 200 followers and whose tweets will be seen by about as many people who will see this post of mine) and get excited that Twitter is part of the Left agenda where the right get censored and the left say what they want
You are all obviously clueless to what Twitter consists of and how it works. It is full of thousands of accounts (mostly faceless and predominately far right racist and homophobic ) who use it to post hateful and disgusting stuff. Im sure Twitter deletes, suspends and bans accounts but these nobodys can just create another. Individually their voice is unheard and so people wont see the tweets to report them and Twitter is not going to police millions of individual nobodys
Where someone has thousands of followers and much more of their Tweet sand opinions are spread far and wide they will look to uphold their rules around hate speech and inciting violence but even then they give hundreds of warnings and need thousands of people to report things. It takes and awful lot of prolonged and repetitive vile tweeting to get banned but over many years this is what Hopkins has done
To give some context to what goes on and how its not a leftist controlled agenda yesterday Ash Sarkar posted a picture of her at a park eating an ice lolly. Following the Reading incident she has received a torrent of abuse including death threats. Below are some of the tweets that have not been removed by the culprits once people started sharing them for all to see
Remember this is one picture from a young lady sitting in a park eating an ice lolly enjoying the sun and by the way this is exactly the kind of hate towards brown people that Hopkins consistently tries to stoke up and incite
Original Tweet
Responses
https://twitter.com/JOHNHAR33008313/sta ... 7747415041
https://twitter.com/Becky_Bongos/status ... 6755150848
https://twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/12 ... 6513213441
https://twitter.com/AlisonW37619617/sta ... 8711713794
https://twitter.com/aliMMA/status/1274490223427309570
https://twitter.com/DJBURNS_was/status/ ... 7036826625
https://twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/12 ... 6840312832
https://twitter.com/Schwaglads/status/1 ... 3745321989
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Surely the simple answer to stop the problems which are avoidable is to simply refuse to engage, any sensible person would just terminate or disable there accounts, people seem willing to continue to receiving online abuse as if it's a form of heroin/cocaine dependency, if you can't hack it don't back it. The problems would disappear overnight but I guess for some people they'd have nothing to complain about then.
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I meant race baiter a person who sees racism in everything.
So, you're not racist eh, shall we look at that
1 Have you ever complained about the claim that Black students are being left behind in education, when in fact it's working class white students who are suffering most, and the universities are disproportionately represented by BAME students.
2 Have you ever complained about the curruption an racism of the ANC in South Africa
3 Have you ever acknowledged or critised any non white person or organisation for being racist
4. How do you feel about the claim that the Glen fell fire was race related
5.How do you feel about the claim that Gary Linekers tweet was racist
6.Do you think that people should be made to pay in anyway for the actions of people in the past based on their skin colour
Before you draw conclusions about me, my first wife, who I am still very close to, is black
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1.) Nogtclaret wrote: ↑Sun Jun 21, 2020 11:56 amI meant race baiter a person who sees racism in everything.
So, you're not racist eh, shall we look at that
1 Have you ever complained about the claim that Black students are being left behind in education, when in fact it's working class white students who are suffering most, and the universities are disproportionately represented by BAME students.
2 Have you ever complained about the curruption an racism of the ANC in South Africa
3 Have you ever acknowledged or critised any non white person or organisation for being racist
4. How do you feel about the claim that the Glen fell fire was race related
5.How do you feel about the claim that Gary Linekers tweet was racist
6.Do you think that people should be made to pay in anyway for the actions of people in the past based on their skin colour
Before you draw conclusions about me, my first wife, who I am still very close to, is black
2.) No
3.) Yes
4.) The Grenfell fire wasn’t race related, although there is much wider discussion to be had about the failings that led to the outcome.
5.) I have no idea what tweet you’re referring to
6.) I don’t understand the question.
But no, I’m not racist and I’m not a race baiter. I don’t see racism in everything, I just see racism in racism. There’s plenty on this board and if you don’t agree I reckon you’re not being honest with yourself.
I haven’t drawn any conclusions about you so the race of your ex-wife is totally irrelevant. It seems like you’re the one baiting.