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Just read that article.
Worrying headline but one thing stands out as suspect. Jeff Hendrick was apparently offered significantly worse terms that his current contract? Really?
Also, Lee Johnson and Mark Hughes as possible contenders if he goes. That bit doesn't even bear thinking about.
Worrying headline but one thing stands out as suspect. Jeff Hendrick was apparently offered significantly worse terms that his current contract? Really?
Also, Lee Johnson and Mark Hughes as possible contenders if he goes. That bit doesn't even bear thinking about.
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No smoke without fire
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I'm not saying Dyche isn't frustrated with the board atm, I do think there's a lot of nonsense in that article though
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Your last paragraph is enough to know that the article is toshksrclaret wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:07 pmJust read that article.
Worrying headline but one thing stands out as suspect. Jeff Hendrick was apparently offered significantly worse terms that his current contract? Really?
Also, Lee Johnson and Mark Hughes as possible contenders if he goes. That bit doesn't even bear thinking about.
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if anything was guaranteed to drive away the support from turf moor, appointing hughes would be it.
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Let's not forget this is mainly the same board that appointed brian lawsCoolClaret wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:10 pmYour last paragraph is enough to know that the article is tosh
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It took 2 of them to write that?
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The party's over.
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I'd love to know how much money for transfers would be OK with SD.
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Bit of rubbish here. Daily mail picking up on an old story and exaggerating it...
His interview today was much more positive and didn’t suggest at all that he wasn’t looking towards a future with Burnley, he just wants more help from the board.
His interview today was much more positive and didn’t suggest at all that he wasn’t looking towards a future with Burnley, he just wants more help from the board.
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Yes to the Hendrick story.ksrclaret wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:07 pmJust read that article.
Worrying headline but one thing stands out as suspect. Jeff Hendrick was apparently offered significantly worse terms that his current contract? Really?
Also, Lee Johnson and Mark Hughes as possible contenders if he goes. That bit doesn't even bear thinking about.
I’ve also had concerns about Hughes since Rigg was appointed. They’ve worked together with FAW, Blackburn, Man City, QPR & Fulham.
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It's a lot of tosh, that's not to say Sean doesn't have concerns, but he'd be mad to walk away now, of course if an attractive job came available then that's a different story, and that could yet transpire, but i wouldn't believe everything you read in the Daily Mail.
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Some directors still here but the one who went for Laws isn’t as involvedBlackburnclaret wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:11 pmLet's not forget this is mainly the same board that appointed brian laws
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It's obvious he isn't a happy bunny, but that article is full of sh1t.
It's to what extent he is unhappy and what has happened/been said, because he definitely knows by now what he is dealing with in terms of this club.
It's to what extent he is unhappy and what has happened/been said, because he definitely knows by now what he is dealing with in terms of this club.
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If Hughes got the gig, that'd be enough to keep me away.
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Follow the money
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Christ almighty. No wonder Hendrick was never going to sign. I know the pandemic has put a dent in our finances but I presume this contract was offered before all that.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:14 pmYes to the Hendrick story.
I’ve also had concerns about Hughes since Rigg was appointed. They’ve worked together with FAW, Blackburn, Man City, QPR & Fulham.
As for Hughes, I didn't know he and Rigg had such a history. That is hugely concerning should a vacancy arise.
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It reads like a random person needed a story.
He's voiced his frustration before and there's been rumours of him leaving before.
He's voiced his frustration before and there's been rumours of him leaving before.
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I'd be for the game being played behind closed doors permanently.
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Surely Mike Garlick wouldn't be such an idiot as to appoint Mark Hughes, would he?
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I've never been a big fan. Sooner had John B at No 1.
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One to talk **** and one to type ****.
The Daily Mail need to look at their own recruitment if this is the output their players are capable of. I prefer to read these articles.
https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/f ... k-18478009
“I chuckled in the right way the other night when someone said it’s the first time Sean Dyche has questioned his board in seven-and-a-half years.
“I think most boards would be happy to be only questioned once in seven-and-a-half years. I was quite proud of that. I thought that was a positive negative in my mind.”
https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/new ... r-no-deal/
“There is a chink of light. Onwards and upwards has always been one of my sayings here and that’s the case. Onwards and upwards, regardless of the challenge, that’s what we have to do,” said Dyche.
Sean raised an issue, the board heard him, evaluated the point he was making and backed him.
Job done, everyone moves forwards with the best interests of the club binding them together as always. The Daily Mail drama queens can say what they want.
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Hughes would be a great appointment if Dyche was to leave
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Hughes would keep more fans away than covid 19.
No. Nay. Never.
No. Nay. Never.
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And another no.
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Now everyone knows you're trollingBlackburn_Claret wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:30 pmHughes would be a great appointment if Dyche was to leave
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Depends who his replacement is, he will leave at some point, all managers have a shelf life. The club will go on, but if we appoint somebody like Hughes, it won't be long before we're mid-table in the Championship, and getting crowds of 12/13k, as we were under Eddie Howe.
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Hughes has a pretty good record in this league.
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Life goes on....the exit is quite near now i imagine.tiger76 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:42 pmDepends who his replacement is, he will leave at some point, all managers have a shelf life. The club will go on, but if we appoint somebody like Hughes, it won't be long before we're mid-table in the Championship, and getting crowds of 12/13k, as we were under Eddie Howe.
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Championship awaits when Dyche leaves.
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Blackburn
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Fulham
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Stoke
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A few poor spells in there, qpr, southampton, stoke. But that’s a pretty good record. Whilst playing decent football.
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Fulham
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Stoke
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A few poor spells in there, qpr, southampton, stoke. But that’s a pretty good record. Whilst playing decent football.
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Mark Hughes is a very famous ******* who spends, spends and spends some more and then leaves when all the fans are tired of how shite his team is. Count me out.
I lived through Laws once, I've no particular interest in doing it again.
I lived through Laws once, I've no particular interest in doing it again.
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What does that mean? Where they are now? Those were league finishes he achieved. Do they not count anymore?Bin Ont Turf wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:51 pmYesterdays chip paper.
Note where all them clubs are now.
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I've complained about the quality of the football under Dyche before, but make no mistake if he left now it would absolutely catastrophic for the club.
His print is all over the club from the first team all the way down the facilities and the community department. He appears to be more like a managing director or chief operating officer than a head coach. If he was poached by another club that would be one thing, but for him to walk away due to a rift with the chairman would be far, far worse*.
*This isn't just a reaction to the DM article, there seems to have been talk about this since we started back up this season.
His print is all over the club from the first team all the way down the facilities and the community department. He appears to be more like a managing director or chief operating officer than a head coach. If he was poached by another club that would be one thing, but for him to walk away due to a rift with the chairman would be far, far worse*.
*This isn't just a reaction to the DM article, there seems to have been talk about this since we started back up this season.
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We are a club who hold our magic beans close to our chest, and none of those clubs are, and certainly not when Hughes was with them.
Those clubs are in the Championship because of shite recruitment and/or overspending. And Hughes was part of that.
Like I said, he's yesterdays chip paper.
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Worrying that a lot of the negatives about Hughes is around his recruitment which was largely handled my MR who hasn’t really set the world alight since we appointed him.
We potentially already employ the inept member of this duo
We potentially already employ the inept member of this duo
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I didn’t know Brians mum was ever a director!ClaretTony wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:15 pmSome directors still here but the one who went for Laws isn’t as involved
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This reads a bit like a story planted by an agent. The bit I don’t get is that we are in the midst of the worst immediate decline in GDP for hundreds of years. Football clubs aren’t immune from that, Sky and others were demanding loads of cash back, that risk seems to have eased, but if we get a second spike it could reassert itself next season.
Burnley won’t be the only club battening down the hatches.
Hendrick was probably on a big deal after a near record signing. So a reduction in the light of him being a bit part player seems reasonable. He plays a good chunk of the season but he isn’t a Wood, McNeil, Mee, Pope, Cork etc.
Similarly why the heck should Lennon and Hart be offered a deal on big wages when they hardly play?
No, if Sean wats out in the midst of a pandemic then he is better sodding off ASAP. He could have stopped these stories immediately but he has encouraged them with his outbursts, He has done very well for us, but he can be a bit of a drama queen at times. Done well or not, its times like this I despair of the man.
Burnley won’t be the only club battening down the hatches.
Hendrick was probably on a big deal after a near record signing. So a reduction in the light of him being a bit part player seems reasonable. He plays a good chunk of the season but he isn’t a Wood, McNeil, Mee, Pope, Cork etc.
Similarly why the heck should Lennon and Hart be offered a deal on big wages when they hardly play?
No, if Sean wats out in the midst of a pandemic then he is better sodding off ASAP. He could have stopped these stories immediately but he has encouraged them with his outbursts, He has done very well for us, but he can be a bit of a drama queen at times. Done well or not, its times like this I despair of the man.
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But if Garlick takes this too far, there are plenty of clubs who would love to take our place in the premier league
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I'm not really concerned about Hughes. That isn't how a big ego works. Hughes gave Rigg a job at nearly all those clubs, some people would say that it was cronyism at its finest. The profoundly negative impact he had on all of those clubs would appear to back up that point. Hughes didn't get Rigg the job at Fulham though, somehow he convinced their rich owner ( who doesn't really seem to be a football person ) that he was the right man for the job.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:14 pmYes to the Hendrick story.
I’ve also had concerns about Hughes since Rigg was appointed. They’ve worked together with FAW, Blackburn, Man City, QPR & Fulham.
Accepting a helping hand from a mate to move up the ladder is very different from bringing in a mate and sharing control with them. I'm guessing that Hughes hired Rigg multiple times, because he was comfortable working with him and he also knew that Rigg wouldn't bite the hand that was feeding him. However, if it ever comes to a managerial change and Rigg is the one who is tasked with finding us a new Head Coach then I doubt it will be Hughes.
People with big ego's tend to avoid hiring people with equally big ego's, especially when leadership is at stake.
My money would be on someone that will happily accept a more subservient role - like Stuart Gray who is currently the Assistant Manager of Fulham. He was hired by Rigg to be their Senior Coach in the seven week gap between the sacking of Kit Symons and the hiring of Jokanovic ( which pretty much destroyed their season and put them in a relegation battle ).
I can almost imagine Rigg making his " hire the patsy " speech, he likes playing with a team that has a strong defensive spine, he was previously a caretaker manager and first team coach at Burnley, he is looking to make the next step in his managerial career, yadda, yadda, yadda.
If Hendrick was offered a crappy contract that is very worrying. Calling a bloke back and offering him a contract that is worse than the one he is currently on would take some real nerve. Especially a player like Jeff who has done everything we have asked of him, even though playing out of position earned him a lot of undeserved flack. If that really was how it went down then I'm annoyed that his last interaction with us was an insult.
If the article does hold a grain of truth it is pretty clear to me who we should be moving on and it isn't Garlick or Sean, but I planted my own flag firmly in the sand a long time ago so that viewpoint is hardly surprising.
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looks to me like the author has been on here and read CT's comments