Moore,Hurst,& Peters lived on that for the last 54 years ...laughable really.GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:56 amAh another club over hyped by the likes of the media into being a club bigger than they really are
The West Ham way of football, never really worked out what that means tbh.
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And staring down the barrel of a gun this season....please get relegated along with Villa !GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 10:18 amEspecially as they've never won the top flight, just 3 FA cups.
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Hendrick could be frustrating at times especially when going forward. He will struggle to hold down a place playing elsewhere at this level
His move is purely financial but who can blame him, he was a loyal servant under Dyche and he goes with my blessings
His move is purely financial but who can blame him, he was a loyal servant under Dyche and he goes with my blessings
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I am not his sgent!
It is a great pity that you believe a player who was a mainstay of our team and hekped us to 7th place in the world's most competitive league, would not be a good member of another club's squad.
It is a great pity that you believe a player who was a mainstay of our team and hekped us to 7th place in the world's most competitive league, would not be a good member of another club's squad.
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You can take your pick from half the PL let's be honest.
He can play in multiple positions, experienced, works hard and doesn't cause a fuss.
Of course other teams will pay for him now he's proven at this level, they've signed worse for more money.
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Never said that he would not be a good member of another club's squad. Just asked which other clubs were likely to want him, seeing as I've only seen him linked with Newcastle.
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One of the 'issues' with Hendrick, is that he has played on the ride side of midfield for a lot of his recent Burnley career - with Dyche preferring the industry of Westwood/Cork in the middle.
Compare that to his time at Derby where he spent almost all of it in CM (180 games in CM vs. 1 RM) according to this site https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/. He will probably fit really well into a team that doesn't play 4-4-2 every week.
Compare that to his time at Derby where he spent almost all of it in CM (180 games in CM vs. 1 RM) according to this site https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/. He will probably fit really well into a team that doesn't play 4-4-2 every week.
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I prefer to embrace that we are a successful small club.
Would you rather play for a successful small club, or a big club - I'm not sure there'd be much in it.
We just need more money in the pot to be able to compete.
Would you rather play for a successful small club, or a big club - I'm not sure there'd be much in it.
We just need more money in the pot to be able to compete.
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Sky Sports News today suggesting that it is unlikely we will agree anything with Hendrick today so he will become a free agent. Rob Dorsett believes he’s will agree a deal with Milan in the next few days.
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AC Milan are not the club they once were.
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Feels like a strange move. When I think of AC Milan I think of Gullit, Donadoni, Ancelotti, Rijkaard and Van Basten.
Fair do's if he makes it happen. I can see the attraction.
Fair do's if he makes it happen. I can see the attraction.
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Judging by Brownhill's performance last night, Hendrick wouldn't have got that many games next season anyway.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:40 pmSky Sports News today suggesting that it is unlikely we will agree anything with Hendrick today so he will become a free agent. Rob Dorsett believes he’s will agree a deal with Milan in the next few days.
Good luck to him wherever he goes. He's been a great servant to Burnley.
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So you base that on one performance. I think Hendrick is a big loss and it is also obvious that Dyche does.Gordaleman wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:48 pmJudging by Brownhill's performance last night, Hendrick wouldn't have got that many games next season anyway.
Good luck to him wherever he goes. He's been a great servant to Burnley.
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You could argue that we will see how big a loss it is if Cork is out next game, not sure why anybody wouldn't have preferred him to stay.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:53 pmSo you base that on one performance. I think Hendrick is a big loss and it is also obvious that Dyche does.
Least if he joins MIlan it puts an end to the lazy myth that he has already agreed to join Celtic, despite being able to sign a contract and hadn't done so.
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Best wishes to him.
At least if he goes to Italy, we won't be facing him next season.
Except maybe in Europe...
At least if he goes to Italy, we won't be facing him next season.
Except maybe in Europe...
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probably never know whether it's money or wanting to be a regular name on the first team sheet, it could be something totally unrelated, regardless he didn't want to stay. Personally I don't see him being more than a squad player in any of the present PL clubs but maybe he could be in a promoted team. I will watch with curiosity as I do when all our players eventually leave but I've certainly believe we would be much worse off when other players left/sold and that also never really materialized so I wish him luck.
The AC Milan is a funny one and perceptions are everything, if someone says they are going to AC Milan, many thing, wow, awesome, exciting, European games etc. When you say Burnley you say, who, why, struggling against relegation all the time, dingy mill town or maybe simply, who? We had a few people in doing some paining recently, one was a football fan, spotted some pictures and said he loved watching, liked the PL a lot, when he asked what team and he was told he looked perplexed and said, who!! Made me think how much PL does he watch but only mentioned regarding perceptions, am sure if I said Man U he would have known.
The AC Milan is a funny one and perceptions are everything, if someone says they are going to AC Milan, many thing, wow, awesome, exciting, European games etc. When you say Burnley you say, who, why, struggling against relegation all the time, dingy mill town or maybe simply, who? We had a few people in doing some paining recently, one was a football fan, spotted some pictures and said he loved watching, liked the PL a lot, when he asked what team and he was told he looked perplexed and said, who!! Made me think how much PL does he watch but only mentioned regarding perceptions, am sure if I said Man U he would have known.
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I am an admirer of Hendrick and he's the only player I would have kept in this contract saga. However, he made his mind up to leave having been offered a new contract and that's his right.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:53 pmSo you base that on one performance. I think Hendrick is a big loss and it is also obvious that Dyche does.
No, I'm not judging Brownhill on one game. He was good against Watford as well. I think he will quickly become a Clarets favourite.
Personally, I wouldn't have extented Brady's contract either.
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If I was offered £30,000 a week to extend my contract with Burnley and my agent said 3 teams (guess) are willing to pay you £40,000 a week for the next 3 years and £200,000 signing on fee, that would be £720,000 more in the first year and £1,040.000 extra in the next 2 years, you are 28 yrs of age what you gonna do? Turn it down right, not a chance, you would say stuff Burnley I'm off, I would. Good luck Jeff, wherever you end up.
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I remember when CricketfieldC tried telling me AC Milan haven’t declined, it would be a sad day in their history if they actually sign Hendrick.
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Are you saying that you know for certain that Jeff was offered that? If not, then it's pointless.CnBtruntru wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:31 pmIf I was offered £30,000 a week to extend my contract with Burnley and my agent said 3 teams (guess) are willing to pay you £40,000 a week for the next 3 years and £200,000 signing on fee, that would be £720,000 more in the first year and £1,040.000 extra in the next 2 years, you are 28 yrs of age what you gonna do? Turn it down right, not a chance, you would say stuff Burnley I'm off, I would. Good luck Jeff, wherever you end up.
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If I was offered £30,000 a week to extend my contract with Burnley and my agent said no teams are willing to pay you £40,000 a week for the next 3 years and £200,000 signing on fee, you are 28 yrs of age what you gonna do? I'd sign the contract at Burnley.
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No I never said I new what he had been offered and it is not pointless, even if your manager said there are 3 clubs out there who are willing to pay you £500,000 more over the next 3 years, you would take it wouldn't you. I'm dam sure I would with all the **** that has gone on this year and you are also only one leg break away from losing your career. All I said was if somebody offers you a lot more for the next 3 years you are going to take it, Why wouldn't anybody.
PS. would have preferred him to stay myself.
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Thought the Brady extension may have been a master stroke to keep Hendrick. If it was, it backfired, but would certainly leave us needing to sign another player. No way we can afford to replace so many players in one summer.Gordaleman wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 2:08 pmI am an admirer of Hendrick and he's the only player I would have kept in this contract saga. However, he made his mind up to leave having been offered a new contract and that's his right.
No, I'm not judging Brownhill on one game. He was good against Watford as well. I think he will quickly become a Clarets favourite.
Personally, I wouldn't have extented Brady's contract either.
Also impressed with Brownhill.
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Can't disagree with most of that, Brady has a lot of paying back to BFC, we've been shelling out for 2 years now on his wages, and he's offered very little in return, he was afford an extension myself TBH, let's hope he actually contributes to the cause next season, already he's in the treatment room again, if we're going to have to trim our budget, then we can't afford wage stealers, and right now that's what Brady is.Gordaleman wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 2:08 pmI am an admirer of Hendrick and he's the only player I would have kept in this contract saga. However, he made his mind up to leave having been offered a new contract and that's his right.
No, I'm not judging Brownhill on one game. He was good against Watford as well. I think he will quickly become a Clarets favourite.
Personally, I wouldn't have extented Brady's contract either.
On a positive note Brownhill looks the real deal, and he was relatively cheap, a few more in that mould this summer will satisfy me.
I can understand why we've kept Bardsley on for another year, he'll not break the bank, and he's a reliable rb, plus it saves us seeking a replacement right now, and hopefully by next summer, the circumstances will have improved.
For whatever reason Hendrick decided to seek pastures new, on the face of it the move to Milan seems strange, but it's a bold move on his part, when the easy route would have been joining Celtic or Newcastle.
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Milan are no longer the club they once were and are probably now the equivalent of Everton in comparison to Liverpool.
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But do you blame Garlick as Dyche seems to? If Milan have made an offer to Hendrick, as has been rumoured for months, perhaps he fancied the challenge and the novelty of playing in Europe (it's not as if he's English anyway, so moving a long way from home to a foreign country is no novelty) and we would perhaps have had to pay way over the odds to keep him.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:53 pmSo you base that on one performance. I think Hendrick is a big loss and it is also obvious that Dyche does.
I know we've come a long way and Milan are perhaps going the other way, but to get cross with the Chairman because someone has picked Milan over Burnley seems a bit like ideas above our station even so.
Hendrick's a big loss, I dare say - though he is basically a reserve, albeit a reserve who has played a lot of matches because Gudmondsson has been injured such a lot, and if we had a fully fit squad Hendrick wouldn't be playing. But realistically, what could we have done to keep him apart from paying silly money?
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No i'm well aware they are no longer a force in Italian football, let alone European football, they're borderline to even qualify for the EL this season, although looking at their recent form, they have picked up slightly in recent games, but i'd agree they are way down the pecking order now, and in terms of challenging the likes of Juve, they're light years behind, even the new kids on the block Atlanta, are way ahead of Milan, but if that's where he wants to go it's his choice, at least we won't be strengthening someone like Newcastle with a free agent.
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Jeff Hendrick has been good for us, value for money IMO.
A few years in Italy sounds better than Newcastle, I hope he goes out there. Best of luck to him.
A few years in Italy sounds better than Newcastle, I hope he goes out there. Best of luck to him.
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Regardless of how poor Milan are now he’d be crazy to not go there. He’ll be paid more and have a fabulous experience I’d expect. If I was at Burnley given the figures earlier in this thread I’d be staying here. The difference is he’s not a Burnley fan. It’s like asking if we’d stop at Wigan (when they were in the prem) or go to Milan. I know for certain where I’d be playing my footy.
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You're missing my point completely. We've only lost one player of any note and that's Hendrick, and it looks like his replacement is already in the building. Get the injured players back and we won't have much of a problem. We don't need need to replace everyone who's left, as presumably, some of our youngsters are ready to break into the first team. No point having an academy otherwise.
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I don't think we'll ever know what was offered by whom, be it Burnley
or other clubs, but it's fair to say that Hendrick would more than likely
have a number of interested parties given he's a proven/experienced Premier League
player who's still only 28 and is going to cost them say 50k a week over 2/3 years plus
whatever he can get as a signing on fee.
That's about 8m tops.
I reckon that's a pretty good deal.
One can understand Burnley not wishing to pay him that sort of money for a whole set
of reasons but having said that it probably leaves us in a position of having to acquire
another midfielder which could cost us 10m+ and hope he's happy on 25-30k a week.
That could end up costing us at least 14-15m.
or other clubs, but it's fair to say that Hendrick would more than likely
have a number of interested parties given he's a proven/experienced Premier League
player who's still only 28 and is going to cost them say 50k a week over 2/3 years plus
whatever he can get as a signing on fee.
That's about 8m tops.
I reckon that's a pretty good deal.
One can understand Burnley not wishing to pay him that sort of money for a whole set
of reasons but having said that it probably leaves us in a position of having to acquire
another midfielder which could cost us 10m+ and hope he's happy on 25-30k a week.
That could end up costing us at least 14-15m.
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This is true. But on the other hand, if our going rate for proven experienced premier league players is to become £50k per week, then the going rate for the people better than him (at least 10 of them IMO - Pope, Mee, Tarkowski, Taylor, Wood, Barnes. Rodriguez, Cork, Westwood, McNeil) will be higher. What's that going to cost?jurek wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:57 pmI don't think we'll ever know what was offered by whom, be it Burnley
or other clubs, but it's fair to say that Hendrick would more than likely
have a number of interested parties given he's a proven/experienced Premier League
player who's still only 28 and is going to cost them say 50k a week over 2/3 years plus
whatever he can get as a signing on fee.
That's about 8m tops.
I reckon that's a pretty good deal.
One can understand Burnley not wishing to pay him that sort of money for a whole set
of reasons but having said that it probably leaves us in a position of having to acquire
another midfielder which could cost us 10m+ and hope he's happy on 25-30k a week.
That could end up costing us at least 14-15m.
I know from experience that in any walk of life, if I find out that someone less use to the firm than me is getting paid more than me, then I want a rise. If Hendrick gets a big pay rise, then those ten also want big pay rises or else they are likely to run out their contracts too.