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Re: "New Deal"

Post by ksrclaret » Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:18 pm

KateR wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:14 pm
It's wonderful to see someone actually learning rather than criticizing just for the sake of it :) I think you're onto something here and it could pay dividends, not least from your peers who might see you as being proactive.
Maybe, Kate.
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Re: "New Deal"

Post by KateR » Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:19 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:16 pm
That snidey Gove, who wants to remove his own E, so he can run the ciuntry, has written a very kong piece, to establish his credentials.

A slithering snake of the worst kind. The cowering kid at school who now wants to get his own back.
Wow Ian, did you go to school with him, or do you know someone really well who went to school with him?

By the way are you attending council meetings again now?

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Re: "New Deal"

Post by Rowls » Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:20 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:18 pm
Maybe, Kate.
This doesn't work as a slogan at all. "A*s For Everybody" was much better.
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Re: "New Deal"

Post by ksrclaret » Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:23 pm

Rowls wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:20 pm
This doesn't work as a slogan at all. "A*s For Everybody" was much better.
I could always use them in tandem on the chance I get a Kate in my class who’s considerably weaker than the rest.
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Re: "New Deal"

Post by Burnley87 » Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:25 pm

I’m in the camp of not judging his reaction to Covid yet as tbh we still have little information about why how or what the virus does to people. On top of that until proper data on second spikes, vaccines and treatment come around it’s hard to determine if the right thing overall has been done. And I say overall because in any war you don’t make the right decision every time

What I will say is yes Boris hasn’t been perfect by any stretch of the imagination, however what he has gone threw since becoming PM is nothing short of ludicrous

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Re: "New Deal"

Post by IanMcL » Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:27 pm

KateR wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:19 pm
Wow Ian, did you go to school with him, or do you know someone really well who went to school with him?

By the way are you attending council meetings again now?
I may have done, Kate, although I don't remember him at my council estate primary or secondary school. Just his type!

Council meers remain 'online'. Had a planning meet the other day. All ok but with no audible member of the public and the public objection statements read by officers, made it very dull and flat.
Not real life!🤣
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Re: "New Deal"

Post by KateR » Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:31 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:27 pm
I may have done, Kate, although I don't remember him at my council estate primary or secondary school. Just his type!

Council meers remain 'online'. Had a planning meet the other day. All ok but with no audible member of the public and the public objection statements read by officers, made it very dull and flat.
Not real life!🤣
Bit like playing behind closed doors ?? Can the public not join the online meeting and heckle?

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Re: "New Deal"

Post by IanMcL » Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:33 pm

They can join and watch the broadcast but not take part.
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Re: "New Deal"

Post by KateR » Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:35 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:23 pm
I could always use them in tandem on the chance I get a Kate in my class who’s considerably weaker than the rest.
ahh so you showing your true colors so easily, back to the name calling and white privileged male again with zero idea about me, except I have difficulty spelling, who do you think I put that down to? People always make it personal when they are on the losing side

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Re: "New Deal"

Post by ksrclaret » Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:38 pm

KateR wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:35 pm
ahh so you showing your true colors so easily, back to the name calling and white privileged male again with zero idea about me, except I have difficulty spelling, who do you think I put that down to? People always make it personal when they are on the losing side
It was a joke where I was referring to having a member of the class named Kate, not somebody who reflects your online persona.

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Re: "New Deal"

Post by KateR » Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:43 pm

I'll believe you but suspect millions wouldn't

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Re: "New Deal"

Post by ksrclaret » Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:49 pm

KateR wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:43 pm
I'll believe you but suspect millions wouldn't
Goodness me you really do have a huge chip on your shoulder.

I think it was obvious to all and sundry what I meant there. The slogan I was referring to in my joke would only apply if the person was called Kate. Sorry if you took offence to it but there really wasn’t a hint of a personal comment.

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Re: "New Deal"

Post by Paul Waine » Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:32 pm

KateR wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:56 pm
sounds like it could be a new dance craze, they been dancing to the same tune for years, all a bit boring for me though to be honest.
Wasn't "gaslighting" the big dance craze in the Cat's Whiskers early 70s? ;)
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Re: "New Deal"

Post by Paul Waine » Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:36 pm

Rowls wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:20 pm
This doesn't work as a slogan at all. "A*s For Everybody" was much better.
Surely the slogan is "Everyone gets an A*."

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Re: "New Deal"

Post by Rowls » Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:43 pm

"A*s For All"

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Re: "New Deal"

Post by bpgburn » Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:56 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:38 pm
It was a joke where I was referring to having a member of the class named Kate, not somebody who reflects your online persona.
ksrclaret: King of the backpedal

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Re: "New Deal"

Post by ksrclaret » Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:03 pm

bpgburn wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:56 pm
ksrclaret: King of the backpedal
That’s so odd because that’s exactly what my old football coach used to tell me when I had to occasionally deputise in goal. His complaint was that I was often too far off my line.

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Re: "New Deal"

Post by bpgburn » Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:07 pm

Pretty sure In a parallel universe where a Corbyn/Labour government got in power and handled the virus in exactly the same way as the current government, the only change to this MB would be the same posters now attacking this governments handling of everything would be defending and applauding how well the Corbyn/Labour government are handling everything.

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Re: "New Deal"

Post by ksrclaret » Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:10 pm

bpgburn wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:07 pm
Pretty sure In a parallel universe where a Corbyn/Labour government got in power and handled the virus in exactly the same way as the current government, the only change to this MB would be the same posters now attacking this governments handling of everything would be defending and applauding how well the Corbyn/Labour government are handling everything.
That’s spot on. That would definitely be the only change.

The people defending the government from criticism right now would definitely still be doing the same thing. Yep, definitely.

Good post.

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Re: "New Deal"

Post by bpgburn » Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:12 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:10 pm
That’s spot on. That would definitely be the only change.

The people defending the government from criticism would definitely still be doing the same thing. Yep, definitely.

Good post.
I thought so too, Thanks sonny boy..

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Re: "New Deal"

Post by ksrclaret » Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:14 pm

bpgburn wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:12 pm
I thought so too, Thanks sonny boy..
Not at all, thank you. A really well thought-out contribution.

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Re: "New Deal"

Post by bpgburn » Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:21 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:14 pm
Not at all, thank you. A really well thought-out contribution.
Is this where you say that I shouldn't post on here anymore because you don't agree? You seem to be getting a bit to hot under the collar about what was obviously a half hearted comment.
Settle down it's just a MB :roll:

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Re: "New Deal"

Post by ksrclaret » Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:26 pm

bpgburn wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:21 pm
Is this where you say that I shouldn't post on here anymore because you don't agree? You seem to be getting a bit to hot under the collar about what was obviously a half hearted comment.
Settle down it's just a MB :roll:
Well, that escalated quickly. :)

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Re: "New Deal"

Post by timshorts » Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:43 pm

2-0 Barnsley. Today I am Barnsley.

Anyway, can I suggest that with an 80 seat majority, we can pack off Boris the blusterbus to canvey Island, lock him up and let the remaining tories get on with it. I get this horrible feeling that those of them that have their heads full of something other than hot air are being shackled by Johnson and Cummings who must be the equivalent of Joe kinnear and John carver being given the reins of a Premier league club.
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Re: "New Deal"

Post by joey13 » Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:40 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 2:05 pm
Just this week he has sent letters out to all local businesses who have gone above and beyond to safely open and keep customers safe.

He spent a lot of time in Padiham when the floods hit last year sorting through everything, helping people.

I haven't met him, it's others raving about him.
So he’s sent out some letters and not done anything about the flood defenses in Padiham , ok then

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Re: "New Deal"

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:08 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:04 pm
Great, another politics thread where left wingers cry for 700 pages.

Give it a rest man, we won last night.

Be happy.
It's deadline day and they're scared about the window closing tonight.

Once it's closed its going to be nigh on impossible to get yet another extension.

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Re: "New Deal"

Post by rob63 » Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:21 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:46 pm
You have every right to slag him off, but most on here would rather politics were kept to a minimum and the same threads.

Starting one with just NEW DEAL as the title will attract football fans thinking it will be club business.
Yes, I thought SD had signed for another 6 years...... ;)

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Re: "New Deal"

Post by Quickenthetempo » Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:47 pm

joey13 wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:40 pm
So he’s sent out some letters and not done anything about the flood defenses in Padiham , ok then
Why don't you follow him on Facebook and see all the good things he has done in his short stint in office.

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Re: "New Deal"

Post by IanMcL » Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:02 am

Just because he says it, doesn't make it true!

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Re: "New Deal"

Post by IanMcL » Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:03 am

Anyway, the 'new deal' is a very poor effort, indeed.

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Re: "New Deal"

Post by AndrewJB » Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:18 am

bpgburn wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:07 pm
Pretty sure In a parallel universe where a Corbyn/Labour government got in power and handled the virus in exactly the same way as the current government, the only change to this MB would be the same posters now attacking this governments handling of everything would be defending and applauding how well the Corbyn/Labour government are handling everything.
I don’t think any other government would have handled things this badly. No other PM would have sat out of so many COBRA meetings. No other government would have waited so long before locking down - which is what led to the high number of deaths. I don’t think any other government would have sat on their backsides in the weeks before it reached us. And I highly doubt any other government would have under reported to such a degree as ours has.

So yes - a half to three quarters of the deaths might have been prevented, and the hit to the economy wouldn’t have been so hard, but otherwise it might be broadly similar.

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Re: "New Deal"

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:22 am

:D
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Re: "New Deal"

Post by Spijed » Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:30 am

Surely it's no coincidence that the three countries (USA, Britain & Brazil) with the highest number of deaths have three leaders who thought they know best and did things a little differently by completely ignoring advice.

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Re: "New Deal"

Post by SammyBoy » Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:37 am

Spijed wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:30 am
Surely it's no coincidence that the three countries (USA, Britain & Brazil) with the highest number of deaths have three leaders who thought they know best and did things a little differently by completely ignoring advice.
Yeah, it's almost as though electing a leader because he looks like he'd give a good best man speech or be a decent craic down the pub is a terrible idea.

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Re: "New Deal"

Post by KateR » Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:53 pm

Spijed wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:30 am
Surely it's no coincidence that the three countries (USA, Britain & Brazil) with the highest number of deaths have three leaders who thought they know best and did things a little differently by completely ignoring advice.
Maybe, just maybe you could add Sweden to that list, just a thought but perhaps it doesn't quite fit in with what you're trying to portray when you talk about doing things differently.

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Re: "New Deal"

Post by martin_p » Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:29 pm

See Johnson is now claiming this is £600bn rather than the £5bn mentioned yesterday. He must’ve had a root round down the back of his sofa last night.

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Re: "New Deal"

Post by joey13 » Wed Jul 01, 2020 8:03 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:47 pm
Why don't you follow him on Facebook and see all the good things he has done in his short stint in office.
I’d rather not he scares me

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