Return Of Local Cricket - Madness

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:14 pm

nil_desperandum wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:39 pm
Why can't they do both?
20 / 20 is generally played in the evening isn't it?
Start in a fortnight and include a couple of double-headers on a weekend and 11 games would take you to Sept 12th.
Round-robin 20 /20 competition on some of the Fridays when it's not a double header.
Scrap the Worsley Cup because a lot of teams are out of it after the first round and all teams need to play cricket now.

I think they've already scrapped the Worsley cup for this year. Running out of daylight might be an issue for Friday night games in a few weeks.

Foulthrow · Post by **Foulthrow** » Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:16 pm

nil_desperandum wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:39 pm
Why can't they do both?
20 / 20 is generally played in the evening isn't it?
Start in a fortnight and include a couple of double-headers on a weekend and 11 games would take you to Sept 12th.
Round-robin 20 /20 competition on some of the Fridays when it's not a double header.
Scrap the Worsley Cup because a lot of teams are out of it after the first round and all teams need to play cricket now.

I’m with you on this. It would be bizarre if the LL just sanctioned a 20/20 comp. a shortened league season could still be played.

Longsidelenny1882 · Post by **Longsidelenny1882** » Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:16 pm

The government said no cricket this season then they got a phone from Marcus rashford so they said if there’s grass on the wicket let’s play cricket up the colne

Burnley1989 · Post by **Burnley1989** » Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:22 pm

You’ve got the wrong guy it was Jake Hepple that said that

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:24 pm

Hopefully clubs will get decent crowds in with people being outside and being able to have a few beers.

Jakubs Tash · Post by **Jakubs Tash** » Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:46 pm

jrgbfc wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:32 pm
Players can bring a packed lunch, or the ladies in the tea room can make 20 odd packed lunches up instead of a buffet. That problems easily solved.

But only after they've finished the washing, cleaning and cooking at home first, right?

Wow.....

Burnley1989 · Post by **Burnley1989** » Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:49 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:46 pm
But only after they've finished the washing, cleaning and cooking at home first, right?

Wow.....

Surely you’re on the wind up

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:55 pm

Longsidelenny1882 wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:16 pm
The government said no cricket this season then they got a phone from Marcus rashford so they said if there’s grass on the wicket let’s play cricket up the colne

Well , it was actually Michael Vaughan who challenged their position - "Stop being Muppets" - yesterday, but it's the same principle.

Jakubs Tash · Post by **Jakubs Tash** » Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:55 pm

Burnley1989 wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:49 pm
Surely you’re on the wind up

Just awaiting confirmation from jrgbfc so I can determine whether it is actually the year 2020 or we are still in the 1970s......

Burnley1989 · Post by **Burnley1989** » Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:05 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:55 pm
Just awaiting confirmation from jrgbfc so I can determine whether it is actually the year 2020 or we are still in the 1970s......

You are

I was going to nip to the shop earlier but I’ll wait for the milk lady in the morning

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:00 am

Telegraph reporting that after 30 seconds on a cricket ball the virus wasn't detectable.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:06 am

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:00 am
Telegraph reporting that after 30 seconds on a cricket ball the virus wasn't detectable.

No but it's all over the bowler's trousers.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:14 am

No way will I be playing or watching local cricket just now. I’ll be giving it a good few weeks to avoid the the knuckle draggers and d-heads.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:20 am

Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:14 am
No way will I be playing or watching local cricket just now. I’ll be giving it a good few weeks to avoid the the knuckle draggers and d-heads.

Jimmy Nelson's CC folded years ago.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:27 am

TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:20 am
Jimmy Nelson's CC folded years ago.

I’m sorry, that’s gone straight over my head!!

arise_sir_charge · Post by **arise_sir_charge** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:21 am

Lancs League will be making an announcement, possibly today, in respect of their restart.

Dependent on what the formal government guidance says, I’d expect a number of mini leagues, 50 over games, with the winner of each mini league entering a semi final.

Hopefully some T20 alongside it.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:25 am

Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:14 am
No way will I be playing or watching local cricket just now. I’ll be giving it a good few weeks to avoid the the knuckle draggers and d-heads.

But how do you know you’ll be playing Lowerhouse in the first few weeks........?

Hipper · Post by **Hipper** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:01 am

tiger76 wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:26 pm
....if only he and the cabinet could be more open to their failings, they might gain more respect from both the opposition, and the public, we know this is a tough challenge for all governments around the world, but some humility can go a long way.

You're joking aren't you?

Look what happens when the Government change their mind. They don't get credit for it. It's all about a 'U turn', back tracking etc.. All the opposition and media will do is exploit it as a weakness - 'the Government doesn't know what its doing' etc..

Bowlers handling the cricket ball is a very intimate action. It will alter the game if you use gloves, sanitizers or anything else that affects the handling and movement of the ball through the air. That's why they rub the ball in their groin, and in some cases do illegal stuff like plucking the thread or scuffing it generally.

Hipper · Post by **Hipper** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:35 am

A Step 3 football team near me have just begun training today.

Andreshotboots · Post by **Andreshotboots** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:07 pm

Commencing 2nd August is the Lancs League in a 4 group format, yet to be announced who's in each group. Will then have semi finals early September I believe.40 over matches, being played on Sundays with 1pm start.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:25 pm

Andreshotboots wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:07 pm
Commencing 2nd August is the Lancs League in a 4 group format, yet to be announced who's in each group. Will then have semi finals early September I believe.40 over matches, being played on Sundays with 1pm start.

Are they allowing pro's?

English or local based?

Andreshotboots · Post by **Andreshotboots** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:36 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:25 pm
Are they allowing pro's?

English or local based?

I don't know is the answer, don't see the point in any club employing a pro for a few weeks. I would expect it's amateur only this season and may even be next as clubs just can't afford extra expense after losing so much money..

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:46 pm

Andreshotboots wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:36 pm
I don't know is the answer, don't see the point in any club employing a pro for a few weeks. I would expect it's amateur only this season and may even be next as clubs just can't afford extra expense after losing so much money..

The Home office/ECB are already trying to do away with overseas pro's. If clubs choose not to employ them next season I fear they won't have an argument against them when they want to re-introduce them.

Also I don't know how clubs will get out of contracts with pro's if they are here and available to work?

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:49 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:46 pm
The Home office/ECB are already trying to do away with overseas pro's. If clubs choose not to employ them next season I fear they won't have an argument against them when they want to re-introduce them.

Also I don't know how clubs will get out of contracts with pro's if they are here and available to work?

The contracts with the pro's seem pretty flimsy, the way plans seem to change at the drop of a hat. I don't think there'll be anything too binding.

Andreshotboots · Post by **Andreshotboots** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:14 pm

jrgbfc wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:49 pm
The contracts with the pro's seem pretty flimsy, the way plans seem to change at the drop of a hat. I don't think there'll be anything too binding.

Exactly. The same way they arrive late and then whizz off back to their States, Provincial teams or whatever at the drop of a hat leaving clubs in awkward positions. The contract for our Pro this year was mutually terminated right at the start of lock down. I can't see there being too many Pro's who've been sat in England waiting for the season to commence.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:44 pm

Andreshotboots wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:14 pm
Exactly. The same way they arrive late and then whizz off back to their States, Provincial teams or whatever at the drop of a hat leaving clubs in awkward positions. The contract for our Pro this year was mutually terminated right at the start of lock down. I can't see there being too many Pro's who've been sat in England waiting for the season to commence.

The likes of Ocky at Burnley signed a 3yr deal and lives local I believe.

Plus I can't see people wanting to pay a fiver to watch amateur only cricket?

I'm sure it will all work out though.

Claretincraven · Post by **Claretincraven** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:50 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:21 am
Lancs League will be making an announcement, possibly today, in respect of their restart.

Dependent on what the formal government guidance says, I’d expect a number of mini leagues, 50 over games, with the winner of each mini league entering a semi final.

Hopefully some T20 alongside it.

The ECB published a 5 stage roadmap for the restart of cricket. We are currently at stage 3, practice in groups of up to 6. Stage 4 is adaptive cricket, shorter format, maybe less than 11 players. I would be surprised if we moved straight to stage 5, full games. In fact I would be surprised if we saw that this season. My guess is 8 aside T20 to start with, but we will see.

RBFC · Post by **RBFC** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 5:12 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:46 pm
The Home office/ECB are already trying to do away with overseas pro's. If clubs choose not to employ them next season I fear they won't have an argument against them when they want to re-introduce them.

Also I don't know how clubs will get out of contracts with pro's if they are here and available to work?

As far as I’m aware clubs won’t have a choice next season.

Overseas pros will only be allowed in ECB Premier Leagues which the Lancashire League isn’t so unless they become one which rumours on twitter suggest may be happening no overseas pro’s will be allowed at all.

Foulthrow · Post by **Foulthrow** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 5:15 pm

Think that there are some clubs with pros. Five I think. They will be in a group together. If any team ends up playing a club with a pro in the semis or the final then they will be able to bring in a pro.

Longsidelenny1882 · Post by **Longsidelenny1882** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 5:34 pm

What about teams who have more than one pro no names mentioned up the colne

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 5:56 pm

RBFC wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 04, 2020 5:12 pm
As far as I’m aware clubs won’t have a choice next season.

Overseas pros will only be allowed in ECB Premier Leagues which the Lancashire League isn’t so unless they become one which rumours on twitter suggest may be happening no overseas pro’s will be allowed at all.

I know they were trying to do away with them but I don't know how far they have got with it or if there is an appeal?

The cricket leagues will certainly be of a poorer standard for it.

The Ribb league clubs will try and take the best players from the Lancs league if they can match their wages?

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:02 am

TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:43 pm
I did wonder whether it is a deliberate ploy to make it look like they are listening to the people and to gain support.

Alarge has fallen for it.

Why bring politics into it? The govt has the poison chalice and is making the general horses arse of it anyone would in this unprecedented situation. You could debate safety/suitability for evermore ,they’re all calculated risks ,personally I’m just glad to see the cricket back but that’s just my view

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:34 pm

Counties vote to play red and white ball cricket when season starts on 1 Augusthttps://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/53323338

Not a unanimous decision though, many wanted only white ball games for the finance, i didn't think it would be a simple vote.

No details on fixtures yet, or whether fans will be allowed later in the season, but i suppose some cricket is better than none.

Local cricketer · Post by **Local cricketer** » Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:49 pm

Looks like the teams with english based pro's will be in one group. Burnley, Middleton, Nordon and Rammy believe

Longsidelenny1882 · Post by **Longsidelenny1882** » Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:56 pm

up the colne

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:23 pm

Local cricketer wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:49 pm
Looks the teams with english based pro's will be in one group. Burnley, Middleton, Nordon and Rammy believe

Burnley might get a bigger crowd on than Lowerhouse if there are pro's on show?

Especially if Blakey puts on happy hour.

Local cricketer · Post by **Local cricketer** » Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:51 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:23 pm
Burnley might get a bigger crowd on than Lowerhouse if there are pro's on show?

Especially if Blakey puts on happy hour.

Tearoom will be shut but the bar is open

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:27 pm

The Ribb league have done away with pro's for this season.
Big boost for Clitheroe getting Jack Dewhurst back as an amateur from Padiham pro'ing duties.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:10 am

Lowerhouse in the same group as Tod.

I hope we don’t see the same allegations as last season claiming Tod were taking advantage of the “house” travelling masses by continuing to charge for entry to the ground for longer than permitted.

HollandsPies · Post by **HollandsPies** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:36 am

TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:20 am
Jimmy Nelson's CC folded years ago.

Ha, ha, I used to play for Jimmy's.

HollandsPies · Post by **HollandsPies** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:44 am

I played on Saturday. Everyone followed the control measures for the various risk assessments etc.
The game played out seamlessly.

You turn up in your whites and go home in them.
Sort your own food out.
Keep a safe distance when fielding/watching.
Clubhouse one in one out etc.
Sanitiser everywhere.
No unnecessary touching of the ball.
Sanitiser break every 3rd. over.
Watch where you stand when not facing.

Why do people make a big fuss over a common sense approach?

Bigbopper · Post by **Bigbopper** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:53 am

Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:10 am
Lowerhouse in the same group as Tod.

I hope we don’t see the same allegations as last season claiming Tod were taking advantage of the “house” travelling masses by continuing to charge for entry to the ground for longer than permitted.

You know what they are like in Yarkshire, careful with their cash.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:50 am

Colne played an inter squad match on the Horsfield yesterday. Was a decent crowd on, good to get some money into the club.

CleggHall · Post by **CleggHall** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:04 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:10 am
Lowerhouse in the same group as Tod.

I hope we don’t see the same allegations as last season claiming Tod were taking advantage of the “house” travelling masses by continuing to charge for entry to the ground for longer than permitted.

There'll be a warm, friendly, costly welcome to any visitors to Centre Vale, the nicest ground int' league. Get thi' money owt!

Longsidelenny1882 · Post by **Longsidelenny1882** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:07 pm

How can a pro from the another league go and play as a amateur in the lancs league surely the lancs league teams will not be happy about that or are all the clubs into stuff like that up the colne

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:21 pm

CleggHall wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:04 pm
There'll be a warm, friendly, costly welcome to any visitors to Centre Vale, the nicest ground int' league. Get thi' money owt!

Always been my feelings whenever I’ve been there. Great club.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:25 pm

Longsidelenny1882 wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:07 pm
How can a pro from the another league go and play as a amateur in the lancs league surely the lancs league teams will not be happy about that or are all the clubs into stuff like that up the colne

He was made redundant or released from contract in March when the lockdown started. Before cricket season started.

Transfers to Lancashire league clubs have a bit of scrutiny before getting approval according to the website. You always see 'Longside Lenny moves to Nelson subject to league approval'.

Longsidelenny1882 · Post by **Longsidelenny1882** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:46 pm

Local cricketer · Post by **Local cricketer** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 3:18 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:25 pm
He was made redundant or released from contract in March when the lockdown started. Before cricket season started.

Transfers to Lancashire league clubs have a bit of scrutiny before getting approval according to the website. You always see 'Longside Lenny moves to Nelson subject to league approval'.

I think if "Longside Lenny moves to nelson" then it's time to pack up and go home

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 3:31 pm

Longsidelenny1882 wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:07 pm
How can a pro from the another league go and play as a amateur in the lancs league surely the lancs league teams will not be happy about that or are all the clubs into stuff like that up the colne

Anyone who stops pro-ing for whatever reason can automatically return to the club they played for as an amateur. Which is as it should be.