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Re: Eddie gone

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:04 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:01 pm
Yes. But. He. Wouldn’t. Let. Me. Have. Behind. The. Scenes. Access. So. Screw. All. The. Good. Stuff. He. Did.
Sorry about that. Not sure what access you wanted.

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Re: Eddie gone

Post by dandeclaret » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:05 pm

Scouts find good players, coaches improve players, managers win games.....

Dyches staff improved The players Howe’s staff brought in like Ings, Trippier, Mee, Dyche got them organised and built a culture to win games.

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Re: Eddie gone

Post by simonclaret » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:05 pm

Mutual consent = agreed to be sacked.
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Re: Eddie gone

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:06 pm

simonclaret wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:00 pm
Jase is caretaker manager apparently
That's not going to last Eddie and Jason are inseparable!

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Re: Eddie gone

Post by Somethingfishy » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:07 pm

simonclaret wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:05 pm
Mutual consent = agreed to be sacked.
Jump..before we push you.

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Re: Eddie gone

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:07 pm

Good Luck Eddie,not so much Jase,i dont like hangers on!

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Re: Eddie gone

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:09 pm

dandeclaret wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:05 pm
Scouts find good players, coaches improve players, managers win games.....

Dyches staff improved The players Howe’s staff brought in like Ings, Trippier, Mee, Dyche got them organised and built a culture to win games.
I didn’t know that Des Taylor that he brought here to head the scouting but I note that he’s thanked him and Andy Howe who I am guessing could be his brother.

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Re: Eddie gone

Post by ksrclaret » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:10 pm

dandeclaret wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:05 pm
Scouts find good players, coaches improve players, managers win games.....

Dyches staff improved The players Howe’s staff brought in like Ings, Trippier, Mee, Dyche got them organised and built a culture to win games.
Did Dyche's staff improve the players Howe's staff brought in at Bournemouth too?

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Re: Eddie gone

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:10 pm

dandeclaret wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:05 pm
Scouts find good players, coaches improve players, managers win games.....

Dyches staff improved The players Howe’s staff brought in like Ings, Trippier, Mee, Dyche got them organised and built a culture to win games.
So what did Howe do with the Bournemouth players and the clubs culture to get them promoted from League 2 to League 1 to the Championship to the Premier League.

As for improving players at one point in the Premier League half of Howes team had been with him since League one
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Re: Eddie gone

Post by ksrclaret » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:12 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:10 pm
So what did Howe do with the Bournemouth players and the clubs culture to get them promoted from League 2 to League 1 to the Championship to the Premier League.

As for improving players at one point in the Premier League half of Howes team had been with him since League one
Now, now DA. Please don't be letting facts get in the way of a good old personal dislike for the man.

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Re: Eddie gone

Post by dandeclaret » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:14 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:10 pm
Did Dyche's staff improve the players Howe's staff brought in at Bournemouth too?
No..... that’s why they got relegated, having spunked 10’s of millions on style over substance players from big clubs, and failing to even maintain their standards.

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Re: Eddie gone

Post by Danieljwaterhouse » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:16 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:11 pm
They’re just trying to dress it up.

He’ll have been potted.
Totally agree, club can’t sack a legend, so they all agree to a mutual consent. Eddie goes to the first prem club to pot their manager next year.

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Re: Eddie gone

Post by ksrclaret » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:19 pm

dandeclaret wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:14 pm
No..... that’s why they got relegated, having spunked 10’s of millions on style over substance players from big clubs, and failing to even maintain their standards.
They had a poor last season but before that he won them 3 promotions and kept them up in the PL for 4 years. He and Dyche go about their business differently but he had huge success doing it his way down there. They were relegated but I dare say we could very well be in that position this time next year.

You obviously don't like the man for one reason or another, but he really has been their best ever manager. You can't really ask for much more than that from your manager.
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Re: Eddie gone

Post by andyh » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:20 pm

Danieljwaterhouse wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:16 pm
Totally agree, club can’t sack a legend, so they all agree to a mutual consent. Eddie goes to the first prem club to pot their manager next year.
Oh I do hope so. Not a manager to keep a team up when their backs are up against the wall.

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Re: Eddie gone

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:20 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:50 pm
Where does that put Dyche on the longest serving managers list now?
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Re: Eddie gone

Post by dandeclaret » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:21 pm

They’ve conceded over 60 goals for 5 consecutive seasons. This isn’t a one off.... they just ran out of luck and basket case teams.
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Re: Eddie gone

Post by Bosscat » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:22 pm

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Not many job opportunities South of Winchester.
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Re: Eddie gone

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:22 pm

dandeclaret wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:14 pm
No..... that’s why they got relegated, having spunked 10’s of millions on style over substance players from big clubs, and failing to even maintain their standards.
Dyche and Howe both only have one relegation on their C.V.

I'm not 100% sure Dyche improved Trippier that much. He made him stay back and defend a lot more meaning he defended better, but it took a lot away from his going forward.
Was he not at his best crossing for Austin when he scored the fastest ever 20 goals for the club? I know it's opinions.

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Re: Eddie gone

Post by Nonayforever » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:24 pm

It's a shame when any manager gets sacked, especially a former Burnley manager.
Eddie wasn't a brilliant manager but he wasn't also a bad manager. There's 3 every year to get relegated.

His next move will be interesting.

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Re: Eddie gone

Post by dandeclaret » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:26 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:22 pm
Dyche and Howe both only have one relegation on their C.V.

I'm not 100% sure Dyche improved Trippier that much. He made him stay back and defend a lot more meaning he defended better, but it took a lot away from his going forward.
Was he not at his best crossing for Austin when he scored the fastest ever 20 goals for the club? I know it's opinions.
Trippier, Still in contact with Dyche, puts him down as the manager who transformed his career. Stayed it in multiple interviews, with local press and non local. Rarely mentions Howe.

Here’s one link https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.lanc ... 647254.amp
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Re: Eddie gone

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:26 pm

dandeclaret wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:21 pm
They’ve conceded over 60 goals for 5 consecutive seasons. This isn’t a one off.... they just ran out of luck and basket case teams.
But for four out of five seasons it's worked for them/
They got badly hit with injuries this season and that tipped the balance.

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Re: Eddie gone

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:26 pm

It’s very ‘Steve Cotterill’ that sacking, ie you are no longer wanted but we don’t want to say that.
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Re: Eddie gone

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:29 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:22 pm
Dyche and Howe both only have one relegation on their C.V.

I'm not 100% sure Dyche improved Trippier that much. He made him stay back and defend a lot more meaning he defended better, but it took a lot away from his going forward.
Was he not at his best crossing for Austin when he scored the fastest ever 20 goals for the club? I know it's opinions.

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Re: Eddie gone

Post by dandeclaret » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:29 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:26 pm
But for four out of five seasons it's worked for them/
They got badly hit with injuries this season and that tipped the balance.
Worse with injuries than other clubs? It’s part of the game.

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Re: Eddie gone

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:31 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:26 pm
It’s very ‘Steve Cotterill’ that sacking, ie you are no longer wanted but we don’t want to say that.
Exactly..well put BC

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Re: Eddie gone

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:33 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:22 pm
Dyche and Howe both only have one relegation on their C.V.

I'm not 100% sure Dyche improved Trippier that much. He made him stay back and defend a lot more meaning he defended better, but it took a lot away from his going forward.
Was he not at his best crossing for Austin when he scored the fastest ever 20 goals for the club? I know it's opinions.
Dyche improved Trippier no doubt.

As for Howe I’m sure when he looks back at his career he’ll be able to reflect on a job well done at that club.

Few journos claiming he has a job lined up. I’d be surprised. Perhaps Palace?

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Re: Eddie gone

Post by ksrclaret » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:35 pm

dandeclaret wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:21 pm
They’ve conceded over 60 goals for 5 consecutive seasons. This isn’t a one off.... they just ran out of luck and basket case teams.
They certainly ran out of luck, I'll give you that one, but that open and expansive style is his way and it worked for him in 9/10 of his seasons.

Being relegated doesn't make you a bad manager and negate all of your previously outstanding work. A certain Sean Dyche can attest to that.

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Re: Eddie gone

Post by tiger76 » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:36 pm

Danieljwaterhouse wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:16 pm
Totally agree, club can’t sack a legend, so they all agree to a mutual consent. Eddie goes to the first prem club to pot their manager next year.
Why would PL clubs be interested in Eddie, he's a one trick pony, who's been found out this season, he hasn't shown he can adapt his style, and his transfer dealings in the past 2 seasons have a lot of :?: marks, and he's ultimately looked bereft of motivating his squad when the going got tough.

Like it or not if you can't organise a defence you're going to struggle to keep a team in the PL, and they've leaked 60 goals+ for the last 5 seasons, eventually that was going to catch up with them, and this season has been that time.

Eddie was great at spotting a player for us, and he left Sean a decent legacy to inherit, but his management development is still debatable, and he left Burnley when we were in the bottom 3 of the Championship, despite Charlie Austin bagging regularly, and the amount of times we threw away a lead that season was unbelievable, and that lack of resilience is why Bournemouth went down.

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Re: Eddie gone

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:38 pm

dandeclaret wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:26 pm
Trippier, Still in contact with Dyche, puts him down as the manager who transformed his career. Stayed it in multiple interviews, with local press and non local. Rarely mentions Howe.

Here’s one link https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.lanc ... 647254.amp
Always likely to be when you have the camaraderie of a promotion together.
Quite a few years ago and the mind plays tricks but I just seemed to remember getting frustrated a lot that Trippier never got forward a lot in games anymore.

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Re: Eddie gone

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:39 pm

Oh he got forward.

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Re: Eddie gone

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:39 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:33 pm
Dyche improved Trippier no doubt.

As for Howe I’m sure when he looks back at his career he’ll be able to reflect on a job well done at that club.

Few journos claiming he has a job lined up. I’d be surprised. Perhaps Palace?
Hopefully Palace. West Ham other possibility?

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Re: Eddie gone

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:40 pm

Decent site.

Shows Eagles as our top assist player one year. Some say he never turned up most of the time.

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Re: Eddie gone

Post by dandeclaret » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:41 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:38 pm
Always likely to be when you have the camaraderie of a promotion together.
Quite a few years ago and the mind plays tricks but I just seemed to remember getting frustrated a lot that Trippier never got forward a lot in games anymore.
First full season under Dyche trippier had virtually double the assists if anybody else in the team. Bin ont Turf posted a link above.

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Re: Eddie gone

Post by SammyBoy » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:41 pm

I’d consider Howe a good manager after everything he’s achieved at Bournemouth. His approach to the game isn’t my cup of tea and unforced defensive errors really wind me up but by and large his style of football has been successful for him.

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Re: Eddie gone

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:42 pm

Poor old Dandeclaret and they see time is a great healer 💔

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Re: Eddie gone

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:42 pm

dandeclaret wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:29 pm
Worse with injuries than other clubs? It’s part of the game.
It certainly didn't help :D

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Re: Eddie gone

Post by claptrappers_union » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:42 pm

Palace will be the perfect destination for Howe, not too far from home, Hodgson in his last year of his contract - almost certain to retire... they have to act now to get him though because I reckon Villa might fancy him too

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Re: Eddie gone

Post by TheFamilyCat » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:43 pm

Always puzzled me that as a defender, he struggled to set a team up to defend.

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Re: Eddie gone

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:44 pm

claptrappers_union wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:42 pm
Palace will be the perfect destination for Howe, not too far from home, Hodgson in his last year of his contract - almost certain to retire... they have to act now to get him though because I reckon Villa might fancy him too
Hodgson signed a new deal but results after were very poor.

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Re: Eddie gone

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:45 pm

claptrappers_union wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:42 pm
Palace will be the perfect destination for Howe, not too far from home, Hodgson in his last year of his contract - almost certain to retire... they have to act now to get him though because I reckon Villa might fancy him too
too far north.

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Re: Eddie gone

Post by FactualFrank » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:45 pm

Eddie will be ok. He'll be ok, Eddie.
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Re: Eddie gone

Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:50 pm

Royboyclaret wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:18 pm
Spot on.......25 years as player and manager with one club is more than enough.
So basically had Bournemouth retained there PL status EH wouldn't have left :lol:

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Re: Eddie gone

Post by Wile E Coyote » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:52 pm

are all those critical of him saying that when he was being mentioned as a potential england manager or a candidate for a top four club, then anyone with that opinion of him was wrong?

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Re: Eddie gone

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:54 pm

Burnley was always a job to big for him but it's a mistake by Bournemouth to get rid of him.
He did well at Bournemouth and gave the club times that no one can equal or better

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Re: Eddie gone

Post by Dyched » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:54 pm

He took Bournemouth to 5 straight PL seasons. We’re aboit to start our 5th, let’s see how we do before all this “Can’t survive playing Howes way shite”.

Some people really need to get a grip, he left years ago yet some people are still bitter in the same way they are with Coyle. It’s weird (I’d understand if we were bottom of Division 17, but were not).
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Re: Eddie gone

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:57 pm

The likes of CP could be interested. No fee to pay now he’s free.
I thought AV had announced Smith was save?

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Re: Eddie gone

Post by Wile E Coyote » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:58 pm

Dyched wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:54 pm
He took Bournemouth to 5 straight PL seasons. We’re aboit to start our 5th, let’s see how we do before all this “Can’t survive playing Howes way shite”.

Some people really need to get a grip, he left years ago yet some people are still bitter in the same way they are with Coyle. It’s weird (I’d understand if we were bottom of Division 17, but were not).
i agree, and like your irish use of the word "about"

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Re: Eddie gone

Post by Burnleyareback2 » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:04 pm

His smirk will soon be back.

I always thought him and his chum Blake spent far too long picking their bench leisure wear than defense training.

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Re: Eddie gone

Post by ClaretLoup » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:12 pm

One thing that ought to be considered when weighing up Howe’s achievements at Bournemouth was that when they were promoted in 2015 they infringed the FFP rules and later paid a £4.75m fine.

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Re: Eddie gone

Post by Nonayforever » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:12 pm

I don't know how to post his " mutual consent" letter but it's an excellent accolade to his time at Bournemouth.
Very reminiscent of M Keane's letter when he left for Everton.

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