Lebanon explosion

This Forum is the main messageboard to discuss all things Claret and Blue and beyond
cricketfieldclarets
Posts: 21464
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:59 pm
Been Liked: 8585 times
Has Liked: 11285 times

Lebanon explosion

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:06 pm

Doesn’t look good. Unsure what’s happened. But apparently a ‘mushroom’ cloud explosion. Hopefully media fearmongering with quotes like that.

My sister was there a few months ago and said how beautiful and peaceful it had become. But on the day she left things went a bit sour there again.

JohnMac
Posts: 7181
Joined: Sun Jan 17, 2016 6:11 pm
Been Liked: 2367 times
Has Liked: 3781 times
Location: Padiham

Re: Lebanon explosion

Post by JohnMac » Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:10 pm

There was a fire before the explosion and some suggestions a firework storage facility at the docks. Whatever it was the kinetic energy was enough to blow windows out 10kn away and the blast was heard in Limassol, Cyprus.

Vegas Claret
Posts: 30280
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:00 am
Been Liked: 10917 times
Has Liked: 5594 times
Location: clue is in the title

Re: Lebanon explosion

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:11 pm


cricketfieldclarets
Posts: 21464
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:59 pm
Been Liked: 8585 times
Has Liked: 11285 times

Re: Lebanon explosion

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:12 pm

JohnMac wrote:
Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:10 pm
There was a fire before the explosion and some suggestions a firework storage facility at the docks. Whatever it was the kinetic energy was enough to blow windows out 10kn away and the blast was heard in Limassol, Cyprus.
Wow. Let’s hope it is a firework factory.

The worlds mad enough as it is.

Vegas Claret
Posts: 30280
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:00 am
Been Liked: 10917 times
Has Liked: 5594 times
Location: clue is in the title

Re: Lebanon explosion

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:13 pm

crazy, gonna be hundreds if not thousands of casualties
https://twitter.com/taraahlie/status/12 ... 65248?s=20

JohnMac
Posts: 7181
Joined: Sun Jan 17, 2016 6:11 pm
Been Liked: 2367 times
Has Liked: 3781 times
Location: Padiham

Re: Lebanon explosion

Post by JohnMac » Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:14 pm


Vegas Claret
Posts: 30280
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:00 am
Been Liked: 10917 times
Has Liked: 5594 times
Location: clue is in the title

Re: Lebanon explosion

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:20 pm

looks like a fireworks in this clip but local authorities are saying there was also a highly explosive material stored there that was confiscated from a ship a few months ago
https://twitter.com/FirozSRKian_/status ... 89888?s=20

tiger76
Posts: 25697
Joined: Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:43 pm
Been Liked: 4644 times
Has Liked: 9849 times
Location: Glasgow

Re: Lebanon explosion

Post by tiger76 » Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:28 pm

Just seen this on the news it doesn't look good, let's just hope that the casualties are minimal, but realistically it's likely to be a fair number unfortunately. Whatever it was it caused a big blast and it was in a port, so there could well have been flammable materials in the area.

cricketfieldclarets
Posts: 21464
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:59 pm
Been Liked: 8585 times
Has Liked: 11285 times

Re: Lebanon explosion

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:29 pm

Hopefully nothing sinister.

CnBtruntru
Posts: 4135
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:39 pm
Been Liked: 694 times
Has Liked: 602 times
Location: Wexford, Ireland. via Nelson.

Re: Lebanon explosion

Post by CnBtruntru » Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:31 pm

Looks very bad.

NewClaret
Posts: 13231
Joined: Tue Dec 31, 2019 9:51 am
Been Liked: 3037 times
Has Liked: 3759 times

Re: Lebanon explosion

Post by NewClaret » Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:58 pm

Looks like a genuine fire at a fireworks factory from this images. Scary though. Hope the loss of life isn’t as bad as feared.

Vegas Claret
Posts: 30280
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:00 am
Been Liked: 10917 times
Has Liked: 5594 times
Location: clue is in the title

Re: Lebanon explosion

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:12 pm

fireworks fire spread to a nitrate fertilizer factory, the explosion of the nitrate is the red colour
https://twitter.com/LukeGilfillan1/stat ... 00418?s=20

box_of_frogs
Posts: 4955
Joined: Sat Jan 23, 2016 11:47 am
Been Liked: 1087 times
Has Liked: 996 times

Re: Lebanon explosion

Post by box_of_frogs » Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:15 pm

I wonder if it’s a genuine fertilizer factory, or a Hezbollah sponsored ‘fertilizer factory’?
This user liked this post: morpheus2

cricketfieldclarets
Posts: 21464
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:59 pm
Been Liked: 8585 times
Has Liked: 11285 times

Re: Lebanon explosion

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:17 pm

Tin foil hat time
Attachments
D173F42E-F9ED-4766-BAB1-9DC74B34F2FD.jpeg
D173F42E-F9ED-4766-BAB1-9DC74B34F2FD.jpeg (369.64 KiB) Viewed 4834 times

Vegas Claret
Posts: 30280
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:00 am
Been Liked: 10917 times
Has Liked: 5594 times
Location: clue is in the title

Re: Lebanon explosion

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:23 pm

box_of_frogs wrote:
Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:15 pm
I wonder if it’s a genuine fertilizer factory, or a Hezbollah sponsored ‘fertilizer factory’?
only thing i've read was an hour ago, it said the nitrate was confiscated from a ship a few months ago and stored in that building. Take it all with a pinch of salt at this stage, lets just hope the causalities are minimal

evensteadiereddie
Posts: 9585
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:45 pm
Been Liked: 3146 times
Has Liked: 10202 times
Location: Staffordshire

Re: Lebanon explosion

Post by evensteadiereddie » Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:27 pm

It sounds like a standard firework factory explosion....
These 2 users liked this post: Bertiebeehead Burnley Ace

Claretmatt4
Posts: 3946
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:31 am
Been Liked: 1049 times
Has Liked: 723 times

Re: Lebanon explosion

Post by Claretmatt4 » Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:32 pm

Ha? Really?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thegua ... on-capital

70 dead... Thousands injured.

ElectroClaret
Posts: 17780
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 7:07 pm
Been Liked: 4046 times
Has Liked: 1847 times

Re: Lebanon explosion

Post by ElectroClaret » Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:35 pm

Two thousand tons of ammonium nitrate. (BBC)

bfcmik
Posts: 3595
Joined: Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:03 pm
Been Liked: 891 times
Has Liked: 1100 times
Location: Solihull Geriatric Centre

Re: Lebanon explosion

Post by bfcmik » Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:40 pm

Apparently the aluminium nitrate had been stored there for over 2 years with absolutely no safety or security precautions!

CrosspoolClarets
Posts: 5232
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:00 pm
Been Liked: 1623 times
Has Liked: 397 times

Re: Lebanon explosion

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:28 pm

Terrible tragedy but incredibly daft to store such stuff in an area like that.

As a total aside, about 25 years ago I became friends with this young guy who one night suddenly invited me to Beirut to visit his family (this wasn’t long after the civil war ended). When expressing fear for my safety over there he said not to worry because his father was one of the senior Hezbollah commanders and I’d be treated like a king. I suddenly became very adept at extracting myself from a situation without causing offence, a valuable life lesson. I never saw the guy again.

Anyway, best wishes to all caught up in tonight’s incident.

BenWickes
Posts: 2000
Joined: Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:27 pm
Been Liked: 645 times
Has Liked: 470 times

Re: Lebanon explosion

Post by BenWickes » Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:19 am

Crikey! Only saving grace is that it wasn't in a more built up area.

cricketfieldclarets
Posts: 21464
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:59 pm
Been Liked: 8585 times
Has Liked: 11285 times

Re: Lebanon explosion

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:08 am

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:28 pm
Terrible tragedy but incredibly daft to store such stuff in an area like that.

As a total aside, about 25 years ago I became friends with this young guy who one night suddenly invited me to Beirut to visit his family (this wasn’t long after the civil war ended). When expressing fear for my safety over there he said not to worry because his father was one of the senior Hezbollah commanders and I’d be treated like a king. I suddenly became very adept at extracting myself from a situation without causing offence, a valuable life lesson. I never saw the guy again.

Anyway, best wishes to all caught up in tonight’s incident.
Actually meant to be a really brilliant place. Both Beirut and Lebanon generally.

Dom Jollys book (he was born and raised there) and thats worth a read. My sister raved about it. I've been to a lot of places around there and it is (was) on the list.

Cirrus_Minor
Posts: 4396
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 8:20 pm
Been Liked: 1156 times
Has Liked: 1282 times

Re: Lebanon explosion

Post by Cirrus_Minor » Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:23 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:08 am
Actually meant to be a really brilliant place. Both Beirut and Lebanon generally.

Dom Jollys book (he was born and raised there) and thats worth a read. My sister raved about it. I've been to a lot of places around there and it is (was) on the list.
My dad was in North Africa / Middle east during WWII with the 8th Army. He always said that The Lebanon was the most beautiful place he had ever visited.

Terrible for the people who have had more than most to contend with for many years.

Chuckypad
Posts: 437
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:29 am
Been Liked: 146 times
Has Liked: 274 times

Re: Lebanon explosion

Post by Chuckypad » Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:26 am

An attack according to Donald Trump:

https://news.sky.com/story/beirut-donal ... y-12042670
This user liked this post: Burnley Ace

Burnley Ace
Posts: 3525
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 6:03 pm
Been Liked: 651 times
Has Liked: 2879 times

Re: Lebanon explosion

Post by Burnley Ace » Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:39 am

Chuckypad wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:26 am
An attack according to Donald Trump:

https://news.sky.com/story/beirut-donal ... y-12042670
He also thinks the moon is made of cheese!
These 2 users liked this post: Zlatan FactualFrank

cricketfieldclarets
Posts: 21464
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:59 pm
Been Liked: 8585 times
Has Liked: 11285 times

Re: Lebanon explosion

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:42 am

Chuckypad wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:26 am
An attack according to Donald Trump:

https://news.sky.com/story/beirut-donal ... y-12042670
What did they attack it with, bleach?

cricketfieldclarets
Posts: 21464
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:59 pm
Been Liked: 8585 times
Has Liked: 11285 times

Re: Lebanon explosion

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:43 am

Cirrus_Minor wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:23 am
My dad was in North Africa / Middle east during WWII with the 8th Army. He always said that The Lebanon was the most beautiful place he had ever visited.

Terrible for the people who have had more than most to contend with for many years.
Absolutely. Iraq (Pre 80's) the same. Meant to be incredible. As are a lot of these places. Afghanistan and Syria another.

Jel
Posts: 845
Joined: Tue Jan 26, 2016 3:54 pm
Been Liked: 261 times
Has Liked: 1169 times

Re: Lebanon explosion

Post by Jel » Wed Aug 05, 2020 10:38 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:43 am
Absolutely. Iraq (Pre 80's) the same. Meant to be incredible. As are a lot of these places. Afghanistan and Syria another.
Terry Waite loved it there, he stayed for years!
These 2 users liked this post: tim_noone cricketfieldclarets

tim_noone
Posts: 17108
Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2017 8:12 pm
Been Liked: 4384 times
Has Liked: 15117 times

Re: Lebanon explosion

Post by tim_noone » Wed Aug 05, 2020 1:34 pm

Jel wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2020 10:38 am
Terry Waite loved it there, he stayed for years!
:lol:

Billy Balfour
Posts: 3979
Joined: Mon May 28, 2018 3:00 pm
Been Liked: 1857 times
Has Liked: 652 times

Re: Lebanon explosion

Post by Billy Balfour » Wed Aug 05, 2020 2:10 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:08 am
Actually meant to be a really brilliant place. Both Beirut and Lebanon generally.

Dom Jollys book (he was born and raised there) and thats worth a read. My sister raved about it. I've been to a lot of places around there and it is (was) on the list.
That's a really good book. A relative of ours lived in Beirut in the late 1960s and he said it was the best city he'd ever lived in. The people, the food and the wine. Apparently, it had some of best restaurants in the Eastern Mediterranean. It's a crying shame what grubby sectarian politics has done to the country.
This user liked this post: cricketfieldclarets

FactualFrank
Posts: 25445
Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2016 12:46 am
Been Liked: 6930 times
Has Liked: 11660 times
Location: Leeds

Re: Lebanon explosion

Post by FactualFrank » Wed Aug 05, 2020 2:15 pm

before-after.jpg
before-after.jpg (103.39 KiB) Viewed 3359 times

Quickenthetempo
Posts: 17930
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:35 am
Been Liked: 3845 times
Has Liked: 2066 times

Re: Lebanon explosion

Post by Quickenthetempo » Wed Aug 05, 2020 2:25 pm

What we supposed to be looking at Frank?

claretonthecoast1882
Posts: 10088
Joined: Mon Apr 09, 2018 1:59 pm
Been Liked: 4161 times
Has Liked: 57 times

Re: Lebanon explosion

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Aug 05, 2020 2:27 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2020 2:25 pm
What we supposed to be looking at Frank?
It's spot the difference isn't it ?

Think I have got it, the water is a slightly different colour

bfcjg
Posts: 13160
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 8:17 pm
Been Liked: 5005 times
Has Liked: 6722 times

Re: Lebanon explosion

Post by bfcjg » Wed Aug 05, 2020 2:50 pm

Terrible, situations like this unite the world community to help out, sadly I won't hold my breath though.

FCBurnley
Posts: 9697
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:56 pm
Been Liked: 1968 times
Has Liked: 1132 times

Re: Lebanon explosion

Post by FCBurnley » Wed Aug 05, 2020 3:53 pm

Surprisingly little sympathy on here. Awful videos showing people suffering horrific injuries. My thoughts are with them and there loved ones

tim_noone
Posts: 17108
Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2017 8:12 pm
Been Liked: 4384 times
Has Liked: 15117 times

Re: Lebanon explosion

Post by tim_noone » Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:37 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2020 3:53 pm
Surprisingly little sympathy on here. Awful videos showing people suffering horrific injuries. My thoughts are with them and there loved ones
Not surprisingly...
This user liked this post: Pimlico_Claret

tiger76
Posts: 25697
Joined: Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:43 pm
Been Liked: 4644 times
Has Liked: 9849 times
Location: Glasgow

Re: Lebanon explosion

Post by tiger76 » Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:45 pm

135 dead now, sadly that number is likely to rise, port officials placed under house arrest. How people can joke about such a tragedy is beyond me.
This user liked this post: FCBurnley

tiger76
Posts: 25697
Joined: Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:43 pm
Been Liked: 4644 times
Has Liked: 9849 times
Location: Glasgow

Re: Lebanon explosion

Post by tiger76 » Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:47 pm

Chuckypad wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:26 am
An attack according to Donald Trump:

https://news.sky.com/story/beirut-donal ... y-12042670
It's idiots like Trump spouting nonsense that will cause further instability in the region, he's better keeping his trap shut and not commenting on things he knows nothing about.

FCBurnley
Posts: 9697
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:56 pm
Been Liked: 1968 times
Has Liked: 1132 times

Re: Lebanon explosion

Post by FCBurnley » Wed Aug 05, 2020 7:18 pm

tim_noone wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:37 pm
Not surprisingly...
Why ?

Claretmatt4
Posts: 3946
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:31 am
Been Liked: 1049 times
Has Liked: 723 times

Re: Lebanon explosion

Post by Claretmatt4 » Wed Aug 05, 2020 7:25 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:47 pm
It's idiots like Trump spouting nonsense that will cause further instability in the region, he's better keeping his trap shut and not commenting on things he knows nothing about.
May as well become a mute in that case

bodge
Posts: 1576
Joined: Sun Jan 03, 2016 6:04 pm
Been Liked: 725 times
Has Liked: 474 times

Re: Lebanon explosion

Post by bodge » Wed Aug 05, 2020 7:29 pm

The ammonium nitrate was en route from Georgia to Mozambique when the vessel encountered technical problems and had to call at Beirut in 2013.

The Russian owned vessel was then abandoned along with the cargo which was then stored in the port warehouse.

Senior customs officials were well aware of the danger this posed and 6 letters were sent to the Lebanese judiciary to get the matter dealt with, the suggestion was to "give it" to the Lebanese military. All the letters sent periodically over the last 6 years went unanswered, so i would imagine there are a few high ranking judges who will not get a good night's kip tonight as the hunt for those responsible begins.

TheOriginalLongsider
Posts: 2255
Joined: Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:41 am
Been Liked: 426 times
Has Liked: 219 times

Re: Lebanon explosion

Post by TheOriginalLongsider » Wed Aug 05, 2020 7:37 pm

Lebanon has so much potential to (return) be a top tourist destination if they can sort themselves out. They are generally quite liberal but I’ve heard stories of people being attacked in the South for wearing swimwear on the beach and for males and females mixing freely together (Hezbollah).

KateR
Posts: 4139
Joined: Mon Feb 27, 2017 1:46 pm
Been Liked: 1018 times
Has Liked: 6157 times

Re: Lebanon explosion

Post by KateR » Wed Aug 05, 2020 8:48 pm

The so called Paris of the Middle East way back, have heard for decades about it returning to that status, twice had meetings set up there only for them to be called off, it's such a shame.

The explosion would have resulted in large amounts of NOX and Ammonia gases, which would also kill very quickly if you got caught up in a cloud of it after having survived the blast.

Volvoclaret
Posts: 1449
Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2017 12:45 pm
Been Liked: 664 times
Has Liked: 379 times

Re: Lebanon explosion

Post by Volvoclaret » Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:37 pm

Why does Frank's after picture remind me of Ewood?

box_of_frogs
Posts: 4955
Joined: Sat Jan 23, 2016 11:47 am
Been Liked: 1087 times
Has Liked: 996 times

Re: Lebanon explosion

Post by box_of_frogs » Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:39 pm

KateR wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2020 8:48 pm
The so called Paris of the Middle East way back, have heard for decades about it returning to that status, twice had meetings set up there only for them to be called off, it's such a shame.

The explosion would have resulted in large amounts of NOX and Ammonia gases, which would also kill very quickly if you got caught up in a cloud of it after having survived the blast.
I’d guess that if you were close enough to be affected by noxious gases, then the blast wave would’ve already done you.

ecc
Posts: 4197
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:08 am
Been Liked: 1394 times
Has Liked: 1272 times

Re: Lebanon explosion

Post by ecc » Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:39 pm

"Trump's better keeping his trap shut and not commenting on things he knows nothing about."

Fully agree but that would end up with him needing an op to learn how to speak again.
These 2 users liked this post: box_of_frogs Stalbansclaret

tim_noone
Posts: 17108
Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2017 8:12 pm
Been Liked: 4384 times
Has Liked: 15117 times

Re: Lebanon explosion

Post by tim_noone » Thu Aug 06, 2020 12:23 am

FCBurnley wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2020 7:18 pm
Why ?
You posted surprisingly no sympathy......I wasnt surprised tbh.

Bullabill
Posts: 908
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:40 am
Been Liked: 301 times
Has Liked: 147 times

Re: Lebanon explosion

Post by Bullabill » Thu Aug 06, 2020 12:41 am

tiger76 wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:47 pm
It's idiots like Trump spouting nonsense that will cause further instability in the region, he's better keeping his trap shut and not commenting on things he knows nothing about.
He didn't claim to know what the cause was - he quoted some of his Generals and said they would know better than him. He was simply passing on their opinion. If he wanted to comment on things he knows nothing about he'd be at home on this board.
This user liked this post: KateR

conyoviejo
Posts: 5829
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:38 pm
Been Liked: 2491 times
Has Liked: 1477 times
Location: On the high seas chasing Pirates

Re: Lebanon explosion

Post by conyoviejo » Thu Aug 06, 2020 12:02 pm

UK pledges 5million quid aid for Lebanon,what a great country we are,always great to see us doing the right thing and helping others in their hour of need.

LeadBelly
Posts: 4178
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 11:07 am
Been Liked: 1002 times
Has Liked: 2044 times
Location: North Hampshire

Re: Lebanon explosion

Post by LeadBelly » Thu Aug 06, 2020 12:34 pm

There are more before v after satellite etc photographs in some media today eg https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... ite-images

I suppose the one vaguely saving grace is that all the wharf-side buildings shielded to some degree the residential areas behind.

Post Reply