Is this still a true statement ??
Is this still a true statement ??
We are due to start our 6th premiership season within the last 7 years and the 3 promoted clubs Leeds, West Brom and Fulham would still have the financial clout over us ? even the clout to take our better players ?
Not sure about last one Tarks, Popey and McNeill ?
Not sure about last one Tarks, Popey and McNeill ?
-
- Posts: 13446
- Joined: Tue Dec 31, 2019 9:51 am
- Been Liked: 3088 times
- Has Liked: 3808 times
Re: Is this still a true statement ??
Not sure about financial clout. Potentially a bigger draw given they are all big city clubs. Fulham aside, larger fan bases. Financially they are probably just less risk averse.
No point moaning about that though - we can still be successful, as we’ve proven, and we’ll become a more attractive proposition the more successful we become.
No point moaning about that though - we can still be successful, as we’ve proven, and we’ll become a more attractive proposition the more successful we become.
-
- Posts: 1374
- Joined: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:35 pm
- Been Liked: 247 times
- Has Liked: 90 times
Re: Is this still a true statement ??
Surely were better off than all 3
-
- Posts: 2062
- Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2018 4:49 pm
- Been Liked: 810 times
- Has Liked: 26 times
Re: Is this still a true statement ??
Fulham definitely, the appeal of living in London can’t be underestimated
This user liked this post: tim_noone
Re: Is this still a true statement ??
I’d rather live on the moon than live in London.claret2018 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:57 amFulham definitely, the appeal of living in London can’t be underestimated
These 4 users liked this post: Colburn_Claret fatboy47 Im_not_Robbie_Blake ten bellies
-
- Posts: 18064
- Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:35 am
- Been Liked: 3862 times
- Has Liked: 2072 times
Re: Is this still a true statement ??
Tim will be after you now.
This user liked this post: tim_noone
Re: Is this still a true statement ??
Always makes me chuckle when folk insinuate that clubs in cities are a bigger draw as 'why would they want to live in Burnley'.
It's almost as if all our players have it written in their contract that they have to live up Stoops.
The bigger fan base thing I get, and they probably will get better wages, but I reckon that 90% if not all of the squad live in the Manchester area.
It's almost as if all our players have it written in their contract that they have to live up Stoops.
The bigger fan base thing I get, and they probably will get better wages, but I reckon that 90% if not all of the squad live in the Manchester area.
This user liked this post: randomclaret2
-
- Posts: 4751
- Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:47 pm
- Been Liked: 953 times
- Has Liked: 238 times
Re: Is this still a true statement ??
The only teams taking our best players are top 6 sides.s6t9a2f3f wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:38 amWe are due to start our 6th premiership season within the last 7 years and the 3 promoted clubs Leeds, West Brom and Fulham would still have the financial clout over us ? even the clout to take our better players ?
Not sure about last one Tarks, Popey and McNeill ?
-
- Posts: 14567
- Joined: Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:55 am
- Been Liked: 3436 times
- Has Liked: 6339 times
Re: Is this still a true statement ??
Fulham have the money, as do Leeds.
Dunno about WBA.
The current advantage we have are our manager, duration in the PL and stability.
Yes I know Leeds' manager is highly regarded by people Inc Pep, but he's still got a job on his hands to keep Leeds in the PL just like any other manager.
Dunno about WBA.
The current advantage we have are our manager, duration in the PL and stability.
Yes I know Leeds' manager is highly regarded by people Inc Pep, but he's still got a job on his hands to keep Leeds in the PL just like any other manager.
Re: Is this still a true statement ??
They may have the advantage of offering bigger wages and higher transfer fees because they have richer/less prudent owners but I think Sean has said many times, we don't need to sell so as a club teams like Leeds would have to pay a pretty penny for any of our better players.
I can't see a first team regular wanting to go any play for a newly promoted club with the exception of a keeper who wants first team footy.
I can't see a first team regular wanting to go any play for a newly promoted club with the exception of a keeper who wants first team footy.
-
- Posts: 2062
- Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2018 4:49 pm
- Been Liked: 810 times
- Has Liked: 26 times
Re: Is this still a true statement ??
I get this, but the draw of London will be a factor for young men with a lot of money. I know where I'd choose.ChrisG wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:02 amAlways makes me chuckle when folk insinuate that clubs in cities are a bigger draw as 'why would they want to live in Burnley'.
It's almost as if all our players have it written in their contract that they have to live up Stoops.
The bigger fan base thing I get, and they probably will get better wages, but I reckon that 90% if not all of the squad live in the Manchester area.
-
- Posts: 1009
- Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 8:55 pm
- Been Liked: 308 times
- Has Liked: 350 times
Re: Is this still a true statement ??
This might be true for our immediate future, but with time comes the sale and then avalanche investment followed by sustainable income model.
-
- Posts: 225
- Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 11:47 pm
- Been Liked: 57 times
- Has Liked: 2485 times
Re: Is this still a true statement ??
Definitely False
It’s the Premier League
It’s the Premier League
This user liked this post: FactualFrank
Re: Is this still a true statement ??
I assume you're referring to our impending takeover/investment which you seem sure is going ahead?Danieljwaterhouse wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:28 amThis might be true for our immediate future, but with time comes the sale and then avalanche investment followed by sustainable income model.
Re: Is this still a true statement ??
That's not true otherwise Man City would never be able to persuade the best young talent to join them over Arsenal or Spurs.claret2018 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:27 amI get this, but the draw of London will be a factor for young men with a lot of money. I know where I'd choose.
I doubt London has any draw when Liverpool, Man U. or Man City are interested.
-
- Posts: 14567
- Joined: Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:55 am
- Been Liked: 3436 times
- Has Liked: 6339 times
Re: Is this still a true statement ??
A number of our players live in Cheshire if I recall, after reading about the minibus they come together in with Ashley Barnes etc.
-
- Posts: 2062
- Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2018 4:49 pm
- Been Liked: 810 times
- Has Liked: 26 times
Re: Is this still a true statement ??
Of course, but we aren't a big team that 99.9% of players would jump at the chance to join. Man city can throw the cheque-book at players to persuade them to sign, as can Utd, and Liverpool are the PL champions.
If I was 21, and was offered £35k a week at either Fulham or Burnley, I'd choose Fulham in a heartbeat. And I support Burnley.
This user liked this post: tim_noone
-
- Posts: 4440
- Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 8:20 pm
- Been Liked: 1161 times
- Has Liked: 1295 times
Re: Is this still a true statement ??
I am reasonably sure that London clubs don't have players living in Tower Hamlets or Liverpool/Everton do not have players living in Toxteth or Man City/Utd do not have players living on Moss Side. Equally I am also fairly sure that when players arrive in Burnley they don't believe that they will be living on Stoops estate.
These 2 users liked this post: ChrisG Corky
-
- Posts: 196
- Joined: Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:00 pm
- Been Liked: 30 times
- Has Liked: 1 time
Re: Is this still a true statement ??
More strip clubs in London
-
- Posts: 1009
- Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 8:55 pm
- Been Liked: 308 times
- Has Liked: 350 times
Re: Is this still a true statement ??
I am referring to it. I am sure there’s news coming in the near future that will cheer even the most ardent Royston Vasey turfites.
This user liked this post: BenWickes
Re: Is this still a true statement ??
then you'd be madclaret2018 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 4:44 pmOf course, but we aren't a big team that 99.9% of players would jump at the chance to join. Man city can throw the cheque-book at players to persuade them to sign, as can Utd, and Liverpool are the PL champions.
If I was 21, and was offered £35k a week at either Fulham or Burnley, I'd choose Fulham in a heartbeat. And I support Burnley.
-
- Posts: 19381
- Joined: Thu Jun 02, 2016 11:06 am
- Been Liked: 3154 times
- Has Liked: 481 times
Re: Is this still a true statement ??
Depends what you mean by financial clout -s6t9a2f3f wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:38 amWe are due to start our 6th premiership season within the last 7 years and the 3 promoted clubs Leeds, West Brom and Fulham would still have the financial clout over us ? even the clout to take our better players ?
Not sure about last one Tarks, Popey and McNeill ?
Do I expect them to/be able to spend more on transfers than us = yes
Can they afford a significant uplift in the wage bill = yes
Can they afford an uplift in amortisation = yes
Is this because they are starting from a lower base = yes
Are they owned by billionaires = yes Leeds and Fulham (not sure about West Brom
Do they run a similar financial model to Burnley = No
Fulham and maybe Leeds (if their minor shareholders dig deep - they are facing promotion costs in excess of £50m) could spend big enough to meet our valuations of Tarks. Pope and McNeil
Re: Is this still a true statement ??
Oh we have a few of themDanieljwaterhouse wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 5:21 pm... will cheer even the most ardent Royston Vasey turfites.
This user liked this post: Danieljwaterhouse
-
- Posts: 9905
- Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:28 pm
- Been Liked: 2350 times
- Has Liked: 3178 times
Re: Is this still a true statement ??
I used to live on Princess Road in Moss Side, 40+ years ago, now. I always had to move my car when City were playing at Maine Road.Cirrus_Minor wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 4:56 pmI am reasonably sure that London clubs don't have players living in Tower Hamlets or Liverpool/Everton do not have players living in Toxteth or Man City/Utd do not have players living on Moss Side. Equally I am also fairly sure that when players arrive in Burnley they don't believe that they will be living on Stoops estate.
I met my wife when we had our "house warming" party.
When we moved out they knocked the house down so they could build the dual carriage way. I think it's just a grassy knoll, now.
Re: Is this still a true statement ??
Drive past that almost daily, well, I used to back in the days of actually going into the office.Paul Waine wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 6:50 pmI used to live on Princess Road in Moss Side, 40+ years ago, now. I always had to move my car when City were playing at Maine Road.
I met my wife when we had our "house warming" party.
When we moved out they knocked the house down so they could build the dual carriage way. I think it's just a grassy knoll, now.
-
- Posts: 6705
- Joined: Sat Jan 23, 2016 12:23 am
- Been Liked: 1818 times
- Has Liked: 1796 times
- Location: Yarkshire
Re: Is this still a true statement ??
Cirrus_Minor wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 4:56 pmI am reasonably sure that London clubs don't have players living in Tower Hamlets or Liverpool/Everton do not have players living in Toxteth or Man City/Utd do not have players living on Moss Side. Equally I am also fairly sure that when players arrive in Burnley they don't believe that they will be living on Stoops estate.
Unless they want to.
-
- Posts: 4635
- Joined: Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:41 am
- Been Liked: 1030 times
- Has Liked: 3187 times
Re: Is this still a true statement ??
It's nice over there and easy to get into Manchester......the wives/Girlfriends like to spend money!GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 4:34 pmA number of our players live in Cheshire if I recall, after reading about the minibus they come together in with Ashley Barnes etc.
Bowden and Altrincham etc....can't blame them really, Burnley and surrounds have very little appeal.
-
- Posts: 17108
- Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2017 8:12 pm
- Been Liked: 4384 times
- Has Liked: 15117 times
Re: Is this still a true statement ??
Yes.... just logged on and saw "that" Silly post.
-
- Posts: 25697
- Joined: Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:43 pm
- Been Liked: 4644 times
- Has Liked: 9849 times
- Location: Glasgow
Re: Is this still a true statement ??
I'd be surprised if we can't compete with West Brom in the market, Fulham and Leeds will spend, but that doesn't guarantee success as history shows.
If McNeil, Pope or Tarks do move on they'll certainly be aiming for bigger fish than those teams that's for sure.
If McNeil, Pope or Tarks do move on they'll certainly be aiming for bigger fish than those teams that's for sure.
-
- Posts: 17108
- Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2017 8:12 pm
- Been Liked: 4384 times
- Has Liked: 15117 times
Re: Is this still a true statement ??
Leeds are massive.tiger76 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 11:17 pmI'd be surprised if we can't compete with West Brom in the market, Fulham and Leeds will spend, but that doesn't guarantee success as history shows.
If McNeil, Pope or Tarks do move on they'll certainly be aiming for bigger fish than those teams that's for sure.
-
- Posts: 17108
- Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2017 8:12 pm
- Been Liked: 4384 times
- Has Liked: 15117 times
Re: Is this still a true statement ??
Tongue in cheek.... though I feel Fulham or/and Leeds would gain more investment than Burnley. And they seem to have unearthed a Nugget in Biesla? Who could attract some world class players possibly?
-
- Posts: 5086
- Joined: Mon Jan 25, 2016 11:15 am
- Been Liked: 1180 times
- Has Liked: 637 times
- Location: Tibet
Re: Is this still a true statement ??
Do any of the first team player live in Burnley ?
-
- Posts: 1844
- Joined: Sat May 26, 2018 7:16 pm
- Been Liked: 562 times
- Has Liked: 1406 times
Re: Is this still a true statement ??
Absolutely, legends in their own lunchtime!
These 2 users liked this post: Woodleyclaret tiger76
-
- Posts: 6642
- Joined: Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:03 am
- Been Liked: 2004 times
- Has Liked: 3339 times
Re: Is this still a true statement ??
It's true that this year the 3 promoted clubs come up with a high degree of spending power (which isn't always the case) but what you have to take into account is that yes, they could probably shell out the cash to pay for one of our "jewels" and yes, in terms of living in or around London say, that lure may be great, but ultimately many clubs have come up with a big budget and spent big and no way does that give them an automatic right not to be fighting relegation come Christmas. Because frequently they are. Players know this and if our jewels want the best chance of playing PL football for the coming seasons, then they are better staying put. That will count for an awful lot.
-
- Posts: 3150
- Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:53 am
- Been Liked: 835 times
- Has Liked: 543 times
Re: Is this still a true statement ??
I’ve heard our staff start out in Manchester / Cheshire but end up buying places in Barley, Pendleton, and the like. Any truth?
Re: Is this still a true statement ??
West Brom also have a billionaire Chinese owner. I'm not sure how much he is willing to give them though.
-
- Posts: 2062
- Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2018 4:49 pm
- Been Liked: 810 times
- Has Liked: 26 times
-
- Posts: 17108
- Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2017 8:12 pm
- Been Liked: 4384 times
- Has Liked: 15117 times
-
- Posts: 4955
- Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 6:04 pm
- Been Liked: 1007 times
- Has Liked: 725 times
Re: Is this still a true statement ??
I bet Ozil wished he lived outside of London after his political fiasco.
-
- Posts: 9308
- Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:48 pm
- Been Liked: 4098 times
- Has Liked: 6573 times
- Location: Burnley
Re: Is this still a true statement ??
No, you don’t.claret2018 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 4:44 pmOf course, but we aren't a big team that 99.9% of players would jump at the chance to join. Man city can throw the cheque-book at players to persuade them to sign, as can Utd, and Liverpool are the PL champions.
If I was 21, and was offered £35k a week at either Fulham or Burnley, I'd choose Fulham in a heartbeat. And I support Burnley.
-
- Posts: 9308
- Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:48 pm
- Been Liked: 4098 times
- Has Liked: 6573 times
- Location: Burnley
Re: Is this still a true statement ??
World class players demand world class wages and world class transfer fees/signing on fees.
Let’s hope leeds havent learned a damn thing...
Re: Is this still a true statement ??
You'd think Fulham learned from their previous relegation season. They certainly have a wealthy owner and a more savvy manager than last time. WBA I am not so sure they're going to splash too much in the current crisis and they're not a so called 'fashionable' club. Leeds are certainly more likely to do a Villa. Big club, fans will almost expect/demand big signings. They have a wealthy owner but he isn't that wealthy in the big scheme of things. They certainly don't have the capability to start splashing huge transfer fees on world class players. They have already intimated they want to bring in some ageing players who used to be world class but big name signings may just paper over the cracks and temporarily appease fans. I think the pressure/demand for instant success will be on Leeds. No doubt their fans think they're back where they belong and will be almost expecting to waltz through the PL like they did the Championship. If they chop and change that squad too much and get off to a bad start I can see it all unravelling before their eyes. I have a funny feeling Leeds fans expectations will meet reality and they'll struggle.