Hendrick set to leave

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Thinking about it, aren't Newcastle about to lose a midfielder, Longstaff?

[GodIsADeeJay81]

He ran around a lot , provided great defensive cover and for every interception and tackle he would be easily dispossessed or dink the ball to the opposition. Panicked in forward positions but overall he did a job for us. A better player in there somewhere seemed more confident when he first started for us.

https://www.premierleague.com/players/8 ... rick/stats

[BOYSIE31]

He ran around a lot , provided great defensive cover and for every interception and tackle he would be easily dispossessed or dink the ball to the opposition. Panicked in forward positions but overall he did a job for us. A better player in there somewhere seemed more confident when he first started for us.

That sums him up perfectly - he will be warming their bench if he goes there that's for sure.

[Tribesmen]

I think a drop into the Championship would be his level

[ClaretTony]

I think a drop into the Championship would be his level

So you think a player who has been a regular in a Premier League team for four years would be at his level in the Championship?

[claretonthecoast1882]

So you think a player who has been a regular in a Premier League team for four years would be at his level in the Championship?

The ones slating him will be the same ones slating the club for not keeping him if he happened to play well against us and it resulted in a defeat.

[Claretmatt4]

https://www.premierleague.com/players/8 ... rick/stats

Interesting stats until I got to aerial duels where it said he'd won about 97...! I don't think I saw him attempt duel aerially until this recent season!

[daveisaclaret]

Given that Burnley are (a fair bit) better than Newcastle and Jeff Hendrick was a regular at Burnley, I'm not sure why some posters are absolutely certain Hendrick couldn't get in the Newcastle side.

[ClaretTony]

Given that Burnley are (a fair bit) better than Newcastle and Jeff Hendrick was a regular at Burnley, I'm not sure why some posters are absolutely certain Hendrick couldn't get in the Newcastle side.

Probably because Hendrick has been the player targeted since Brady suffered his injury.

[Winstonswhite]

Supporters posted negative stuff about Hendrick because he was the poorest player of the regular starters and they believed there were better players out there.

We haven’t seen much of Brownhill up until now. But to me he looks an upgrade in every area of Hendricks game- and JB is also playing out of position.

[ClaretTony]

Supporters posted negative stuff about Hendrick because he was the poorest player of the regular starters

Well thank goodness the manager didn't think so

[Tall Paul]

Interesting stats until I got to aerial duels where it said he'd won about 97...! I don't think I saw him attempt duel aerially until this recent season!

Just goes to show that what some football supporters think they're seeing and what is actually happening are often completely different things.

[BenWickes]

Supporters posted negative stuff about Hendrick because he was the poorest player of the regular starters and they believed there were better players out there.

We haven’t seen much of Brownhill up until now. But to me he looks an upgrade in every area of Hendricks game- and JB is also playing out of position.

Not at all convinced with Brownhill in right midfield nor him being an upgrade on Hendrick in that position. However, considering Brownhill wasn't brought in to replace Hendrick. It's a moot point.
Brownhill is a different type of player and wouldn't have been surprised if Dyche was toying with playing Brownhill and Hendrick together in midfield, possibly a midfield 3. Had Hendrick stayed.
I think Hendrick got the scapegoat tag far too easily and he did a lot of the unseen, dirty work that often goes unnoticed.
I just don't think he's going to benefit from playing in a Newcastle team who have less possession than us. So it's a weird move for me from that perspective.

[DCWat]

I’d be interested to see the various stats, referred to on the stats thread, for Hendrick. I’ve never been his biggest fan and I can see why he’s not unanimously a fans favourite.

He was though, a more than useful squad member able to fill in for various positions. We often looked a better team with him in it, even if Hendrick himself didn’t always stand out.

Would I have wanted him to stay as a first choice? No. Would I have wanted him to stay as a valued member of the first team squad? Yes.

[ewanrob]

Always find it strange the negative views on JH, if Defour had scored those goals against Brighton, Bournmouth, Chelsea and Everton x 2 he would have had a statue erected outside Turf Moor. Jeff was a very decent player for us, and scored some absolute worldies...has to mean something surely.

[MACCA]

Always find it strange the negative views on JH, if Defour had scored those goals against Brighton, Bournmouth, Chelsea and Everton x 2 he would have had a statue erected outside Turf Moor.

What a strange comment, and probably couldn't be further from the truth.

I'm sure we will have a post every other week on how he does at his new club, so we will see exactly what we have lost, what his new club has gained and see just how well or not Jeff does.

To be honest it's old news now, he's no longer our player, so wouldn't mind him having a couple of seasons worth of poor to average games, that will be in mine and Burnley's best interests.

[Winstonswhite]

Well thank goodness the manager didn't think so

Tony, he was Dyches third choice right midfield at the start of this season behind JBG and Lennon until they got injured.

[BOYSIE31]

So you think a player who has been a regular in a Premier League team for four years would be at his level in the Championship?

He would stand out more yeah

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Tony, he was Dyches third choice right midfield at the start of this season behind JBG and Lennon until they got injured.

I'm trying to work out if you thought that comment through or you're on a wind up..

[ClaretTony]

I'm trying to work out if you thought that comment through or you're on a wind up..

Just trying to justify criticism of him. He was a Burnley player for 140 Premier League games and started 107 of them. And in the other 33 he came on as a sub 15 times.

[dsr]

Hendrick is the sort of reserve that clubs need. He would have seldom played if everyone had been fit, but for much of his career was first reserve for all of Cork, Westwood and Gudmondsson - and of course one of those players needed a lot of covering for!

[ClaretTony]

Tony, he was Dyches third choice right midfield at the start of this season behind JBG and Lennon until they got injured.

Was he? As per my previous posts, the number of games he played for us would suggest he was some way from being third choice anything.

[BenWickes]

Tony, he was Dyches third choice right midfield at the start of this season behind JBG and Lennon until they got injured.

Given a preferred choice, Dyche would never have played him right midfield I am sure. The fact he did a decent job there is testament to how professional he was.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Not at all convinced with Brownhill in right midfield nor him being an upgrade on Hendrick in that position. However, considering Brownhill wasn't brought in to replace Hendrick. It's a moot point.
Brownhill is a different type of player and wouldn't have been surprised if Dyche was toying with playing Brownhill and Hendrick together in midfield, possibly a midfield 3. Had Hendrick stayed.
I think Hendrick got the scapegoat tag far too easily and he did a lot of the unseen, dirty work that often goes unnoticed.
I just don't think he's going to benefit from playing in a Newcastle team who have less possession than us. So it's a weird move for me from that perspective.

Only just had less possession than us, maybe they believe he will help them retain it.

[BenWickes]

Only just had less possession than us, maybe they believe he will help them retain it.

That's my point though. He's hardly moving to a team who are allowing him to express his repertoire. If it was a move designed by desire to play in a team that allow that, Newcastle certainly weren't it last season and nothing suggests they will be next.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Hendrick is the sort of reserve that clubs need. He would have seldom played if everyone had been fit, but for much of his career was first reserve for all of Cork, Westwood and Gudmondsson - and of course one of those players needed a lot of covering for!

https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top ... e=-1&cl=43

4th on the list of PL appearances for Burnley, ahead of the 3 players you've mentioned.
The only reason they'll pass him in that table next season is because he's left or he'd stay ahead of them I suspect.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

That's my point though. He's hardly moving to a team who are allowing him to express his repertoire. If it was a move designed by desire to play in a team that allow that, Newcastle certainly weren't it last season and nothing suggests they will be next.

Like I said, maybe they believe he will help improve their possession stats etc.
Longstaff has left on a free and they're looking to sign vastly more experienced PL midfielder on a free to replace him.
That's a good bit of business in my opinion.

[BenWickes]

Like I said, maybe they believe he will help improve their possession stats etc.
Longstaff has left on a free and they're looking to sign vastly more experienced PL midfielder on a free to replace him.
That's a good bit of business in my opinion.

From Newcastle's point of view. Yes I agree. I don't mind Hendrick. He's a workhorse. I was thinking more of a point of view from his career. It may work out and be an inspired move. He leaves with nothing but thanks and best wishes from me.

[ewanrob]

What a strange comment, and probably couldn't be further from the truth.

I'm sure we will have a post every other week on how he does at his new club, so we will see exactly what we have lost, what his new club has gained and see just how well or not Jeff does.

To be honest it's old news now, he's no longer our player, so wouldn't mind him having a couple of seasons worth of poor to average games, that will be in mine and Burnley's best interests.

Each to their own, good player for me who would have improved...heyho

[Steve1956]

Good luck were ever you go Jeff,you was absolutely brilliant for us in your time here,i will watch your career with interest,you have some doubters on here who i would love you to shut the f**k up once and for all!

[ecc]

Can't we just accept that some people rate JH and some don't and move on?

[Tribesmen]

So you think a player who has been a regular in a Premier League team for four years would be at his level in the Championship?

Very simple just not a fan .
Now expected a lot more when he did very well at the Euro's in France but for me he never pushed on .
I would give him my vote the the Irish hide and seek champion while playing for Ireland .

And i stand by what i say even that he should be in his prime i think he is Championship level .

Hey we will soon find out this coming season .

[warksclaret]

What is it about JH that we are still obsessed with him when he last played for us in March

He played his part, gave his all, was played out of position quite often, got some good goals and performances and also had some quiet and poor games. No different to many of our other signings. Lets now move on-maybe a reflection of how bored some readers are

[ClaretTony]

Very simple just not a fan .
Now expected a lot more when he did very well at the Euro's in France but for me he never pushed on .
I would give him my vote the the Irish hide and seek champion while playing for Ireland .

And i stand by what i say even that he should be in his prime i think he is Championship level .

Hey we will soon find out this coming season .

He’s been a Premier League player for four years and would not have played all those games had he been Championship level. It really is as simple as that.

[dougcollins]

Poor mans' John Deary.

[Bfcboyo]

https://www.premierleague.com/players/8 ... rick/stats

Has this proven anything?

[Foshiznik]

Our modern day Scotty Arfield. We'll miss him but he's not irreplaceable.

[Dougall]

Poor mans' John Deary.

Do I need to say it?

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Has this proven anything?

I just put his stats up that's all.

He was a good player for us, one of the first picks for most of his time here, which says a lot.

[Top Claret]

Poor mans' John Deary.

Heard it all now.

Hendrick was one of the 1st names on the team sheet over the last couple of years and will be missed.

[Bfcboyo]

I just put his stats up that's all.

He was a good player for us, one of the first picks for most of his time here, which says a lot.

With all the competition he had it proves we needed a bigger squad and he was probably at times the hardest tryer and the weakest link.

He would do something great then give the ball away carelessly. Very frustrating player and with more confidence sure he could up his level.

[BOYSIE31]

He’s been a Premier League player for four years and would not have played all those games had he been Championship level. It really is as simple as that.

But only at Burnley

[ClaretTony]

But only at Burnley

Not relevant - he's been a member of a team during a time when it has never fallen below 40 points in any season, has twice passed 50 points and once qualified for Europe. So the 'only at Burnley' has no relevance at all, written almost as if we are the worst team in the league.

[ClaretTony]

Poor mans' John Deary.

Loved John Deary but he was a League One/Two standard player.

[Stanbill05]

Fortunately the answer should become clear when he either thrives or fails at his new club. I’m in the camp expecting him to fail if I’m honest.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

But only at Burnley

So you're either dismissing his contributions here or the clubs progress during his time here?

Either way it's looking daft.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

With all the competition he had it proves we needed a bigger squad and he was probably at times the hardest tryer and the weakest link.

He would do something great then give the ball away carelessly. Very frustrating player and with more confidence sure he could up his level.

The weakest link

Some real revisionist stuff there.

[Jenny55]

Poor mans' John Deary.

Is that tongue in cheek? I think you were taking the rise with that. John Deary was a decent player but never played at a level as high as Jeff has.

[Bordeauxclaret]

I liked Hendrick.
He got caught in the middle ground on here where some people went over the top with criticism so others felt the need to go over the top with praise. It started with Graham Branch and moved onto Stephen Jordan.

Always thought the answer was in the middle.
He did a good job for us. Sad to see him leave as he came across as an unassuming character who’d do a job wherever asked.

[Burnleyareback2]

He did what he was asked to do by the manager to the best of his abilities.

Do we need more than that?

Thanks Jeff and good luck. Always be a claret.