Maguire in the mire ?

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Re: Maguire in the mire ?

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:48 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:32 pm
And he’s guilty
He wasNt when he was called up.

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Re: Maguire in the mire ?

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:48 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:35 pm
He's just been convicted.
He has now. He hadn’t when called up.

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Re: Maguire in the mire ?

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:50 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:39 pm
Very swift justice system they have in Greece, not like over here where it takes forever.

However, I'm confused, I thought all these unjust and bizarre laws were set by the EU?

:twisted:
They don’t mess about out there. And that’s why you don’t mess about out there!
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Re: Maguire in the mire ?

Post by Gordaleman » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:50 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:47 pm
Not really as joe public can work after a suspended sentence. It’s kind of the point.
Joe Public's sentence wouldn't have been suspended. Look at the charges he was found guilty of. No doubt the Greek government got involved and said they don't want to frighten rich tourists away.

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Re: Maguire in the mire ?

Post by Bigvince » Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:48 pm

All the suspended sentence means is that for the next couple of years, he’ll have to go somewhere else other than Greece for his holidays

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Re: Maguire in the mire ?

Post by Spike » Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:55 am

What a plonker for going to such a place. Should be locked up for wasting his money

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Re: Maguire in the mire ?

Post by Burnley Ace » Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:45 am

Gordaleman wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:50 pm
Joe Public's sentence wouldn't have been suspended. Look at the charges he was found guilty of. No doubt the Greek government got involved and said they don't want to frighten rich tourists away.
Legal opinion in Greece seems to confirm that as they were misdemeanours a defendant with no previous convictions gets a suspended sentence - that could be why they were down graded.

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Re: Maguire in the mire ?

Post by Burnley Ace » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:53 pm

It’s all very peculiar. The prosecutor wants Maguire to apologise for something he’s says he didn’t do and some charges will be dropped.

1. Did the assault occur outside the bar or at the police station?
2. Was the plain clothed policeman injured at the bar or the station?
3. Why did the taxi they were in take them to the police station and not the hospital?
4. Any evidence of the “Albanians”
5. What happened to his sister and is there any evidence to support her claim.
6. No CCTV or mobile footage!!!

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Re: Maguire in the mire ?

Post by FactualFrank » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:57 pm

The bit where he's supposed to have tried to bribe them into letting him off sounds like something that someone is unlikely to have made up, and that he did say it.

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Re: Maguire in the mire ?

Post by tiger76 » Wed Aug 26, 2020 3:07 pm

Maguire retaining the Man Utd armband apparently :roll: that's crazy in the circumstances.https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53922147

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Re: Maguire in the mire ?

Post by Burnley Ace » Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:01 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Wed Aug 26, 2020 3:07 pm
Maguire retaining the Man Utd armband apparently :roll: that's crazy in the circumstances.https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53922147
Only crazy if you have any respect for the Greek Judicial System!!
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Re: Maguire in the mire ?

Post by Cirrus_Minor » Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:39 pm

Be interesting if Man U have to play at Olympiacos in the Champions league.

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Re: Maguire in the mire ?

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:50 pm

Appeal lodged and under Greek law that means yesterday’s court case is now considered null and void. It means he is currently guilty of no offence and is therefore free to travel. The appeal trial will be held in a higher court.

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Re: Maguire in the mire ?

Post by tim_noone » Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:58 pm

Total stitch up....imo of course.

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Re: Maguire in the mire ?

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:06 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:50 pm
Appeal lodged and under Greek law that means yesterday’s court case is now considered null and void. It means he is currently guilty of no offence and is therefore free to travel. The appeal trial will be held in a higher court.
Should be back in the england squad then.

As yesterday. Innocent until proven guilty.

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Re: Maguire in the mire ?

Post by Bfcboyo » Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:11 pm

Utd better get ready to greece some palms. If guilty at re-trial it might not be a suspended .

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Re: Maguire in the mire ?

Post by Rileybobs » Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:16 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:50 pm
Appeal lodged and under Greek law that means yesterday’s court case is now considered null and void. It means he is currently guilty of no offence and is therefore free to travel. The appeal trial will be held in a higher court.
Can he be punished further if his appeal fails? Apologies for my ignorance of the Greek judicial system. You wonder whether he would be best just to accept the punishment and put this behind him, easy for me to say though of course.

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Re: Maguire in the mire ?

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Thu Aug 27, 2020 10:19 pm

Believed he was being kidnapped?

Of course he did. :lol:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53941208

Feared for his life? Feared he might have to mark Chris Wood and Jay Rod again :lol:

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Re: Maguire in the mire ?

Post by Claret Till I Die » Thu Aug 27, 2020 10:55 pm

To be fair, we already knew that he doesn't have a lot in the defensive locker..

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Re: Maguire in the mire ?

Post by Rileybobs » Thu Aug 27, 2020 11:44 pm

RalphCoatesComb wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 10:19 pm
Believed he was being kidnapped?

Of course he did. :lol:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53941208

Feared for his life? Feared he might have to mark Chris Wood and Jay Rod again :lol:
What leads you to believe he’s not telling the truth? Don’t get me wrong, he might well be. But I don’t quite understand this animosity towards Maguire. He’s never really done anything to be disliked by people has he? He always comes across as a fairly level-headed, down to earth lad.
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Re: Maguire in the mire ?

Post by tim_noone » Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:27 am

I remember a guy being beat the Sh!t out of with sticks in the early hours by Greek Cypriot police in Paphos a number of years ago I think he'd caused some minor criminal damage.....they were like a pack of rabid dogs.Burnley fans have seen first hand what the Greeks are like.....and wasn't one coach driven straight to a local nick instead of the ground.

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Re: Maguire in the mire ?

Post by dermotdermot » Fri Aug 28, 2020 3:12 am

Rileybobs wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 11:44 pm
What leads you to believe he’s not telling the truth? Don’t get me wrong, he might well be. But I don’t quite understand this animosity towards Maguire. He’s never really done anything to be disliked by people has he? He always comes across as a fairly level-headed, down to earth lad.
Well for a start he curtailed Rob Brady’s career.

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Re: Maguire in the mire ?

Post by mkmel » Fri Aug 28, 2020 4:15 am

It wasn't Maguire's fault when Robbie Brady got badly injured

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Re: Maguire in the mire ?

Post by claretblue » Fri Aug 28, 2020 6:07 am

RalphCoatesComb wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 10:19 pm
Believed he was being kidnapped?
worked for John Higgins! :?

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Re: Maguire in the mire ?

Post by Woodleyclaret » Fri Aug 28, 2020 6:16 am

Being reinstated to the England squad by Gutless Gareth.Nothing to do with his holiday problems but hes not fit to wear the shirt
Tarks must be wondering how hes not replaced Slabhead in the England team.

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Re: Maguire in the mire ?

Post by Eloise Laws » Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:40 am

Listened to his interview today, not wanting to appear cynical - could his little sister with her rolling eyes and passing in and out of consciousness been drunk?? After all they allegedly had been drinking most of the day, and racked up a hefty bar bill?

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Re: Maguire in the mire ?

Post by mdd2 » Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:02 am

At least it will be out of his own pocket to pay lawyers to get him off unlike the almost £500,000 it cost the British taxpayer to get the three lads off a murder conviction for not knowing that at the back of their getaway care they were dragging a copper almost a mile.

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Re: Maguire in the mire ?

Post by bobinho » Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:09 am

He’ll get away with this, you watch.

That sounds like I have him down as guilty... maybe that’s unfair as I know absolutely nothing about what happened other than what has been widely reported.

If I was a betting man.... bang to rights. He has that much money, the legal team will find whatever it is they need however obscure and unlikely and they will get him off. That’s how justice works.

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Re: Maguire in the mire ?

Post by Bertiebeehead » Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:12 am

£63000 bar bill and no one was drunk. :lol:

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Re: Maguire in the mire ?

Post by Billy Balfour » Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:19 am

Eloise Laws wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:40 am
Listened to his interview today, not wanting to appear cynical - could his little sister with her rolling eyes and passing in and out of consciousness been drunk?? After all they allegedly had been drinking most of the day, and racked up a hefty bar bill?
Injected with a hypodermic syringe that contained a "rape drug". I hope she's now in a UK hospital undergoing all sorts of checks for HIV/AIDS, hepatitis B, and hepatitis C etc?

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Re: Maguire in the mire ?

Post by Burnley Ace » Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:20 am

mdd2 wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:02 am
At least it will be out of his own pocket to pay lawyers to get him off unlike the almost £500,000 it cost the British taxpayer to get the three lads off a murder conviction for not knowing that at the back of their getaway care they were dragging a copper almost a mile.
How much did the failed police investigation and prosecution cost? Are you going to start a campaign that Justice should just be for the rich? Can't afford a lawyer? Well just plead guilty because if you didn't do this one you've probably done something else? Get rid of juries- they can never be trusted to come back with the result the press want?

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Re: Maguire in the mire ?

Post by Billy Balfour » Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:26 am

Anyway, let's not get sidetracked.

To me, it sounds like he got bladdered while being on an all day sesh and kicked off, then started giving it the old 'do you know who I am' treatment.

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Re: Maguire in the mire ?

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Fri Aug 28, 2020 11:32 am

Rileybobs wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 11:44 pm
What leads you to believe he’s not telling the truth?

He always comes across as a fairly level-headed, down to earth lad.
Even level-headed, down to earth lads make mistakes. He has a lot to lose if he's guilty. That's one reason he'd lie.

Don't try and take on Foreign Police when you've had a few. Many an England fan has made that mistake ;)

Running away with one handcuff on? Sounds like a scene from outside the Cats Whiskers way back when :lol:

The truth may well come out but someone is lying.

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Re: Maguire in the mire ?

Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Aug 28, 2020 11:52 am

Rileybobs wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 11:44 pm
What leads you to believe he’s not telling the truth? Don’t get me wrong, he might well be. But I don’t quite understand this animosity towards Maguire. He’s never really done anything to be disliked by people has he? He always comes across as a fairly level-headed, down to earth lad.
Because he plays for Utd, England, he’s better than Tarky and is rich and successful.

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Re: Maguire in the mire ?

Post by Rileybobs » Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:23 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 11:52 am
Because he plays for Utd, England, he’s better than Tarky and is rich and successful.
Yeah, pretty much my thoughts on the reaction.

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Re: Maguire in the mire ?

Post by firstclaret » Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:25 pm

Physically and mentally ready to play for England, yet can’t play on 12th September!

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Re: Maguire in the mire ?

Post by basil6345789 » Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:28 pm

So sad to see him whimpering and simpering like Walter. He clearly has been affected mentally. Needs to take a year out to recover.

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Re: Maguire in the mire ?

Post by Rileybobs » Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:31 pm

basil6345789 wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:28 pm
So sad to see him whimpering and simpering like Walter. He clearly has been affected mentally. Needs to take a year out to recover.
Who’s Walter?

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Re: Maguire in the mire ?

Post by tim_noone » Fri Aug 28, 2020 7:11 pm

Mitty.....

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Re: Maguire in the mire ?

Post by dsr » Fri Aug 28, 2020 11:56 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:31 pm
Who’s Walter?
Walter Wurx. Well-known character in Cheeky Weekly comic, circa 1980, famous for crying a lot. That's my guess.

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