Tark - transfer

[huw.Y.WattfromWare]

Speaking as a Burnley fan, if I played for us and West Ham came in for me offering to double my wages you wouldn't see me for dust.

Why?

[Elizabeth]

Fingers crossed we get 40 million and Dawson in as a replacement

[Goobs]

Why?

Cos he's a money whore, with no loyalty

[Elizabeth]

People should stop treating these players as something special. From all accounts on New Year's Day against Villa at the Turf he played like he's just rolled out of bed after a New Year's Eve bender. Putting an armband on him changes nothing

[wilks_bfc]

People should stop treating these players as something special. From all accounts on New Year's Day against Villa at the Turf he played like he's just rolled out of bed after a New Year's Eve bender. Putting an armband on him changes nothing

After watching that game I don’t think that accusation can be against Tarky alone

[Elizabeth]

That doesn't exempt Tarkowski

[wilks_bfc]

Never said it did, but you can probably count one hand and still have fingers to spare the number of bad games he had last season

[Conroysleftfoot]

Speaking as a Burnley fan, if I played for us and West Ham came in for me offering to double my wages you wouldn't see me for dust.

But would you be honest and say that was why you were leaving?

[Zlatan]

Never said it did, but you can probably count one hand and still have fingers to spare the number of bad games he had last season

is that an East Lancs hand?

[Elizabeth]

Yes it is a personal opinion. I think he is over rated and is lucky to play in such a well drilled defence magnificently supported by a hard working midfield and forwards who recognise the importance of defending from the front.
I believe he tries to play like Beckenbauer but continually puts the ball out of play and turns too slowly.

[huw.Y.WattfromWare]

Never said it did, but you can probably count one hand and still have fingers to spare the number of bad games he had last season

They were the games Southgate was in attendance.

[Winstonswhite]

Yes it is a personal opinion. I think he is over rated and is lucky to play in such a well drilled defence magnificently supported by a hard working midfield and forwards who recognise the importance of defending from the front.
I believe he tries to play like Beckenbauer but continually puts the ball out of play and turns too slowly.

I agree totally that’s what he was like when he first came into the team. However over the last two seasons he’s matured enormously and for the most part, has cut that out of his game.

[CFS]

Speaking as a Burnley fan, if I played for us and West Ham came in for me offering to double my wages you wouldn't see me for dust.

I'm not even going to lie forget football if someone offered to double my wage for the same job I do now il be out in a jiffy. That's life you have to be dumb to stay.

[Elizabeth]

That's good to know Winston.

Still be good to take the 40 million and get in a PL experienced defender able to play with our Captain Marvel, Ben Mee, and benefit from our system in the way Tarkowski has.

[Winstonswhite]

40 million would be nice but do you honestly have confidence that we will find someone as good, because if we don’t, then we are regressing as a team. GK and 2 x CH are so important to the way we play.

[jojomk1]

Not being captain today, when playing, was a telling moment

Or, is the gaffer just showing who is the boss

[NewClaret]

40 million would be nice but do you honestly have confidence that we will find someone as good, because if we don’t, then we are regressing as a team. GK and 2 x CH are so important to the way we play.

Apparently the sell on fee is £27.5%, so that’s £29m for us and £11m for Brentford.

Would rather keep Tarks for 2 more years. Averages out at £14.5m a year and he would more than repay that in league position £.

[FactualFrank]

Apparently the sell on fee is £27.5%, so that’s £29m for us and £11m for Brentford.

Would rather keep Tarks for 2 more years. Averages out at £14.5m a year and he would more than repay that in league position £.

Unless he wants to leave. I wouldn't want to keep a player until the end of his contract if he wanted out.

[BenWickes]

Not being captain today, when playing, was a telling moment

Or, is the gaffer just showing who is the boss

Tarks isn't captain anyway so I wouldn't read much into it. Not the first time Dyche has changed captaincy or made a different player captain for a game. Mee is out for the foreseeable so why not try something different in a friendly?

[NewClaret]

Unless he wants to leave. I wouldn't want to keep a player until the end of his contract if he wanted out.

That’s a fair point but he’s got the Euros to keep him motivated this year and then the prospect of a bumper contract elsewhere the following year!

We should obviously offer him a big fat new contract so he can’t feel like we’ve mistreated him too.

[Elizabeth]

I think the sum owed to Brentford is not the primary consideration in this.
Tarkowski has shown his ambition overrides everything and that I think is the key to any potential move.
Burnley are still in the driving seat I believe but if that changes I would like the club to sell him next week

[Elizabeth]

I think now that Mee's daughter is home we will see him back in the side very soon

[NewClaret]

I think the sum owed to Brentford is not the primary consideration in this.
Tarkowski has shown his ambition overrides everything and that I think is the key to any potential move.
Burnley are still in the driving seat I believe but if that changes I would like the club to sell him next week

True. But it would be hard for him to argue that WHU meet those ambitions or represent any form of progression. If WHU or any other top six team made an offer, that’s different.

[Elizabeth]

He will be shown as a mercenary if he takes the big wage increase that will go with any increased bid to Burnley's satisfaction that West Ham may be stupid enough to make .
Many of our fans are already dubious about the way he left Brentford so let's wait to see if that increased bid arrives.

[Gordaleman]

Tarky aside, the thing that is pleasing me is that there has been no mention of Vydra leaving during this window. It seems that he is now more settled and perhaps feels that his undoubted talent is starting to be recognised at last.

I think he offers us something completely different to normal up front and I really hope he gets used more this season.

[Devils_Advocate]

Good news for Burnley is its not only Southgate who doesn't think Tarks is in the same class as Maguire, Cody, Gomez and Mings.

£30m is about his market value but he's worth a lot more to us so we wont sell and it doesn't look like West Ham or Leicester are prepared to be mugged off by paying more

[tarkys_ears]

Easy now.

My owner ain't goin nowhere. Heard it meself.

[Winstonswhite]

Good news for Burnley is its not only Southgate who doesn't think Tarks is in the same class as Maguire, Cody, Gomez and Mings.

£30m is about his market value but he's worth a lot more to us so we wont sell and it doesn't look like West Ham or Leicester are prepared to be mugged off by paying more

.... And that’s how you run a stable Premier League football club.

[mill hill claret]

Easy now.

My owner ain't goin nowhere. Heard it meself.

Made me laugh

[Volvoclaret]

He will be shown as a mercenary if he takes the big wage increase that will go with any increased bid to Burnley's satisfaction that West Ham may be stupid enough to make .
Many of our fans are already dubious about the way he left Brentford so let's wait to see if that increased bid arrives.

Whats with all the vitriol Liz baby, did he bang you and never rang.

[AlargeClaret]

He will be shown as a mercenary if he takes the big wage increase that will go with any increased bid to Burnley's satisfaction that West Ham may be stupid enough to make .
Many of our fans are already dubious about the way he left Brentford so let's wait to see if that increased bid arrives.

What an absolute load of rot ! Tarky has been brilliant for us as a player and investment , he’s in his peak years and of course wants international /euro football and and a top club and to max his earnings While WH are no “ top club” the money tends to talk . As for “ many of our fans “ being dubious about how he left Brentford ??While leaving a club is often a messy affair I doubt anyone gives a toss how he left them . If he goes he’ll go with many fans blessings that’s for sure

[claret2018]

Assuming he’s on £50k a week here, and West Ham doubled his wages he’d be clearing an extra 1.37m per year after tax.

There’s your answer as to why he’d want to move to a West Ham.

[AfloatinClaret]

He will be shown as a mercenary if he takes the big wage increase that will go with any increased bid...Many of our fans are already dubious about the way he left Brentford...

Not me. I fail to understand why football supporters get upset/annoyed at a player who moves on for a mega pay rise, when they would undoubtedly leave their own employer should a competing company in their own trade/profession offer them an identical job at twice the salary; I know I did.

[jrgbfc]

We can't afford to sell him at this stage. You'd like to think our recruitment team are fully aware he's likely to go next summer though and are already thinking about replacing him.

[Cubanclaret]

According to BBC gossip West Ham have been priced out and won’t come back with another bid.
Well done Burnley if that’s the case.

[HarryPottsDesk]

I personally think the whole idea that Tarkowski would want a move to WHU is complete baloney. If he does want to move to a club with mediocre prospects, a mediocre manager, delusional fans, a hideous stadium and owners amongst the most contemptible in world football it can only be for the money. In which event the "want to play at the highest level" line is laughable, and his time at Burnley is up. But, personally I think it is baloney.

[jojomk1]

Tarky aside, the thing that is pleasing me is that there has been no mention of Vydra leaving during this window. It seems that he is now more settled and perhaps feels that his undoubted talent is starting to be recognised at last.

I think he offers us something completely different to normal up front and I really hope he gets used more this season.

No Deeney for Watford last night

Just get that awful knot in the stomach when thinking of a swop with Vydra

[BenWickes]

No Deeney for Watford last night

Just get that awful knot in the stomach when thinking of a swop with Vydra

I would not be surprised at all if he rocked up at Burnley but he genuinely is still out recovering from surgery.

[EarbyClaret]

Deeney to West Brom according to Football Insider

[Row Z]

According to BBC gossip West Ham have been priced out and won’t come back with another bid.
Well done Burnley if that’s the case.

Hopefully is the case and shows that whilst securing specific targets can be problematic for us, we aren't selling our manager out with losing his best players on top. He's always maintained we don't need to sell and given our squad depth it shouldn't be an option unless the fee is astronomical.

I've posted a number of times that tarkys presence potentially helps secure three further years of premier league football worth hundreds of millions.

[Danieljwaterhouse]

Deeney has spoken about going out on loan and then coming back to Watford if they get promoted, not sure how I’d feel if I was a Watford fan about that kind of statement?

[Danieljwaterhouse]

West Ham is surely smoke and mirrors and they’ll be a serious offer and club working away to sign Tarks.

My fear is Newcastle and the obvious Leicester

[BenWickes]

Deeney has spoken about going out on loan and then coming back to Watford if they get promoted, not sure how I’d feel if I was a Watford fan about that kind of statement?

That would tally with Mourinho's interest. Spurs aren't exactly flush with money after building their stadium and the aftermath of Covid. Not sure I'd be happy if a Burnley player did that though.

[Danieljwaterhouse]

That would tally with Mourinho's interest. Spurs aren't exactly flush with money after building their stadium and the aftermath of Covid. Not sure I'd be happy if a Burnley player did that though.

I’m trying to think how I’d feel if J Rod or Mee did it?

I think I’d be right royally annoyed!!!

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Deeney has spoken about going out on loan and then coming back to Watford if they get promoted, not sure how I’d feel if I was a Watford fan about that kind of statement?

Is it any different to a Burnley player agreeing to stay for an extra season with the promise that the club would sell him if they didn't get promoted and then returning several years later when the club has been in the PL a number of years?

[GodIsADeeJay81]

I’m trying to think how I’d feel if J Rod or Mee did it?

I think I’d be right royally annoyed!!!

J-Rod was sold because the club didn't get promoted and had promised to sell him if that was the case.
Then he returned after the club had been in the PL for a number of years and his then club wasn't.

[Danieljwaterhouse]

J Rod was a young lad, who wanted to play at the top and for England. Not 30 plus.

[Row Z]

Is it any different to a Burnley player agreeing to stay for an extra season with the promise that the club would sell him if they didn't get promoted and then returning several years later when the club has been in the PL a number of years?

Yes completely different. In one scenario the player is willing to roll his sleeves up and commit to the cause. If it fails that season then they can continue to progress elsewhere. The Deeney scenario suggests he sees himself as being too good to scrap it out in the championship and therefore hes not willing to support the club try and achieve promotion. Given his long standing association with Watford I would have thought he'd have wanted to bring them back up, but he may see it that given his age he's got little opportunity to play in the premier league in future years, plus he may have taken a pay cut upon relegation.

[NewClaret]

Deeney has spoken about going out on loan and then coming back to Watford if they get promoted, not sure how I’d feel if I was a Watford fan about that kind of statement?

Wouldn’t want Deeney within 100 miles of the Turf. Stick with our current forwards, thanks. Very happy with those guys.

[Danieljwaterhouse]

Wouldn’t want Deeney within 100 miles of the Turf. Stick with our current forwards, thanks. Very happy with those guys.

Can’t see him coming here, can’t see him wanting to go to Tottenham. West Brom seems a legit move.