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Post by FactualFrank » Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:18 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:14 pm
Only three seasons ago we were signing £12-18 million pound players on a regular basis.
I think Wood, Brady and Gibson are the only players we've signed in that bracket?

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Post by Steve1956 » Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:19 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:14 pm
We need that Investor and we need it quick. Garlick is too risk averse. You have to take some risk but it needs to be balanced.

Only three seasons ago we were signing £12-18 million pound players on a regular basis.
18 million for who?

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Post by Row Z » Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:20 pm

Hendrick, vydra, Rodriguez, Cork all £10m plus?

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Post by Taffy on the wing » Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:22 pm

This thread is Nausea inducing......& not just because of LTL's Mammoth posts.
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Post by Duffer_ » Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:28 pm

Taffy on the wing wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:22 pm
This thread is Nausea inducing......& not just because of LTL's Mammoth posts.
In some deeper existential way?

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Post by FactualFrank » Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:29 pm

Taffy on the wing wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:22 pm
This thread is Nausea inducing......& not just because of LTL's Mammoth posts.
To be fair, we have covered a lot.

Very few links and transfer news, but a lot of other things.

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Post by mdd2 » Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:29 pm

Perhaps the money freed up from the salaries of Hart Lennon Hendrick and Gibson are enough to cover our financial hit from Covid with the loss of some TV money the loss of gate receipts and sponsorship and the extra costs of Covid including testing and additional cross infection measures. Our reduced income will be considerable and we cannot cost cut on the present players' and coaching staff salaries who are under contract. Many other clubs can find additional cash, our reserves are all we have as I doubt the Board have a few hundred million to chip in. As I hope most supporters can see, there is no end in sight for Covid as we start to see a rapid increase in cases. There will be no re-opening of live football soon so the shortfall in income will be with us until we get an effective vaccine likely to be next year.

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Post by Murger » Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:37 pm

https://twitter.com/talkSPORT/status/13 ... 68/video/1

Durham is a grade A bellend, but he's not wrong in what he says.

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Post by Mattster » Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:40 pm

Of all the clubs in the PL we are one of, if not the, least reliant on matchday income. Covid will have had an effect but really should be effecting us less than others.

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Post by jtv » Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:42 pm

Mattster wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:40 pm
Of all the clubs in the PL we are one of, if not the, least reliant on matchday income. Covid will have had an effect but really should be effecting us less than others.
However we are probably the hardest hit, relatively, with the TV money draining away.

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Post by Tall Paul » Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:56 pm

Murger wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:37 pm
https://twitter.com/talkSPORT/status/13 ... 68/video/1

Durham is a grade A bellend, but he's not wrong in what he says.
He says we'll go down every year.
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Post by Murger » Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:58 pm

Tall Paul wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:56 pm
He says we'll go down every year.
I meant specifically, the board taking Dyche for granted bit.

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Post by Goody1975 » Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:00 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:14 pm
We need that Investor and we need it quick. Garlick is too risk averse. You have to take some risk but it needs to be balanced.

Only three seasons ago we were signing £12-18 million pound players on a regular basis.
The point in isolation is correct (well up to £15 Million anyway) but in the same time the wage bill has also increased somewhat, this is mainly to reward the players for the job they have done but also to try to prevent them having their heads turned by clubs offering to "double their wages".

Burnley have a certain amount of revenue each season and if you increase one expenditure (wages) it leaves less money for other things (like transfer fees), that is if we wish to continue trying to make a profit each year.

Unfortunately the only way to generate the money to be active in the transfer market is to sell some of our better players or find other revenue (investors), the Covid issue has only made things worse this summer and this could be a really rocky road between now and October 5th. There will be money to spend but i don't think anywhere near enough for what is required this summer.

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Post by NewClaret » Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:03 pm

jtv wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:42 pm
However we are probably the hardest hit, relatively, with the TV money draining away.
The only sign TV money is draining away is the China deal, which may be political given the Huawei situation. They said they will seek another Chinese broadcaster.

Failing that I think there’s plenty of options to grow revenue through PPV models.

I think that this year the teams that rely on Matchday income with high debts will suffer most, which won’t be us.

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Post by BOYSIE31 » Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:06 pm

Grumps wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:59 am
Are we believing what nixon says now?
Depends what certain people want to hear :D

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Post by Right_winger » Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:06 pm

Will we actually make a signing before the season starts?

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Post by FactualFrank » Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:07 pm

Right_winger wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:06 pm
Will we actually make a signing before the season starts?
I don't think we'll make a new signing before next Sunday.

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Post by Pearcey » Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:08 pm

Right_winger wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:06 pm
Will we actually make a signing before the season starts?
Bit late now.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:15 pm

Pearcey wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:08 pm
Bit late now.
Surely we will make at least one signing for the first team before our first game? Otherwise we might not be able to fill the bench

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Post by FactualFrank » Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:17 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:15 pm
Surely we will make at least one signing for the first team before our first game? Otherwise we might not be able to fill the bench
It's pretty rare to see us have a full bench of first team players, without bringing in youth players.

The whole of last season, when I saw the lineup, the bench often had 1-2 players from the youth team. So I can't see that changing.
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Post by ksrclaret » Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:17 pm

Right_winger wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:06 pm
Will we actually make a signing before the season starts?
Why sign anybody before the season starts when we can sign somebody on the day the window slams. We can save a couple of weeks wages that way.

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Post by Pearcey » Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:18 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:15 pm
Surely we will make at least one signing for the first team before our first game? Otherwise we might not be able to fill the bench
There’s obviously nothing close at the moment and if there was they wouldn’t be thrown in without training etc. It’s the same every transfer window. I’ll only judge when it’s closed but you can’t help feeling frustrated can you?

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Post by BOYSIE31 » Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:19 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:03 pm
Agree with Hart and Lennon being let go, they contributed a minimal amount last season, and I suspect will have been among our highest earners, I'd have liked to have kept Hendrick, but he's not worth pushing the boat out for, we've also got Gibson out of the door, in a fashion anyway.

So you'd hope we have some leeway on wages and budgets to bring at least 2-3 new faces in, I'll reserve judgement until the end of the window, but the noises aren't promising for any new blood.
Yep and I forgot about Drinkwater as well - a hell of a lot of money gone from the club's coffers to players bank accounts that have contributed sweet fa on the pitch where it matters - you could also add Vydra to the list maybe as well and obviously Gibson.
Board have sat back and thought we can't carry on like this and I agree.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:21 pm

Pearcey wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:18 pm
There’s obviously nothing close at the moment and if there was they wouldn’t be thrown in without training etc. It’s the same every transfer window. I’ll only judge when it’s closed but you can’t help feeling frustrated can you?
They don’t even have to play. Just be on the bench to begin.
To be honest our most promising youngsters won’t even be on the bench because they are back with the U23s.

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Post by ksrclaret » Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:22 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:19 pm
Yep and I forgot about Drinkwater as well - a hell of a lot of money gone from the club's coffers to players bank accounts that have contributed sweet fa on the pitch where it matters - you could also add Vydra to the list maybe as well and obviously Gibson.
Board have sat back and thought we can't carry on like this and I agree.
So you are happy to see us fail to strengthen our threadbare squad?

Come off it lad, you'll be the first to complain.

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Post by jtv » Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:22 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:03 pm
The only sign TV money is draining away is the China deal
No not only. Broadcasters are claiming rebates for all sorts of reasons. We might also suffer from the main shirt sponsor given that there will be less coverage in the Chinese market.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:24 pm

for a club that pleads poverty the decision to release the away kit the day before the season started is laughable. Let's ignore what few revenue streams we can actually affect
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Post by BOYSIE31 » Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:26 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:22 pm
So you are happy to see us fail to strengthen our threadbare squad?

Come off it lad, you'll be the first to complain.
Of course not we need 3 or 4 and even maybe 5 to be competitive but the thing is they need to be as good or better than what we have
But we have the same problem every window - we shop in the wrong place

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Post by CFS » Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:27 pm

Murger wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:37 pm
https://twitter.com/talkSPORT/status/13 ... 68/video/1

Durham is a grade A bellend, but he's not wrong in what he says.
Does no one know we've made 7 signings besides me? :lol: :lol:

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Post by FactualFrank » Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:28 pm

CFS wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:27 pm
Does no one know we've made 7 signings besides me? :lol: :lol:
You never said. What position are you playing?

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Post by Granny WeatherWax » Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:29 pm

CFS wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:27 pm
Does no one know we've made 7 signings besides me? :lol: :lol:
It wasn’t funny the first time you said it never mind the 50th.

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Post by Tall Paul » Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:37 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:24 pm
for a club that pleads poverty the decision to release the away kit the day before the season started is laughable. Let's ignore what few revenue streams we can actually affect
They don't plead poverty though, they say the transfer market is difficult.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:43 pm

Tall Paul wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:37 pm
They don't plead poverty though, they say the transfer market is difficult.
that's what you took from that ? not the obvious failure to explore a revenue stream
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Post by Tall Paul » Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:46 pm

Revenue from shirt sales? That's buttons in the scheme of things.

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Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:51 pm

Have we signed anyone yet?
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Post by FactualFrank » Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:52 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:51 pm
Have we signed anyone yet?
Patience.

We've had approaching 2500 posts and 50 pages. So early days yet.
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Post by TheFamilyCat » Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:54 pm

Murger wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:37 pm
https://twitter.com/talkSPORT/status/13 ... 68/video/1

Durham is a grade A bellend, but he's not wrong in what he says.
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Post by Bigvince » Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:59 pm

Talk sport, if they said it goes dark a night, I wouldn’t believe them!!

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Post by Grumps » Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:06 pm

Bigvince wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:59 pm
Talk sport, if they said it goes dark a night, I wouldn’t believe them!!
About half the content is ok
I gave up listening to Durham years ago, I got so annoyed, not at him, but the idiots who actually believe what he says, and take the time and money to ring in and argue

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Post by tiger76 » Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:11 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:26 pm
Of course not we need 3 or 4 and even maybe 5 to be competitive but the thing is they need to be as good or better than what we have
But we have the same problem every window - we shop in the wrong place
I'll be :shock: if we bring in 5, but we definitely need a CB,CM, & RW as a bare minimum, and that's just replacing Gibson, Hendrick and Lennon, plus Cork is unlikely to be on the pitch before Xmas. We could play Brownhill/Westwood in a 2, but that's risky gambling on their fitness for that length of time, we should have learned this from when Marney did his cruciate.

I'm curious why you think we shop in the wrong place, if you mean the Championship we have plenty of successes from that league, albeit not as many recently,

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Post by FactualFrank » Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:14 pm

Bigvince wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:59 pm
Talk sport, if they said it goes dark a night, I wouldn’t believe them!!
I caught a taxi into the centre earlier this week and the driver had this on.

Now I've listened to it before and thought it was dreadful. I was in for probably 7 and a half minutes and that was enough to confirm my original thoughts.

I don't know who were on, but they were shocking. Interrupting each other - refusing to acknowledge anybody else's opinion - just... terrible.

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Post by cockneyclaret » Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:14 pm

Tall Paul wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:37 pm
They don't plead poverty though, they say the transfer market is difficult.
Certainly comes across like that.. to the fans and media

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Post by clarethomer » Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:20 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:14 pm
I caught a taxi into the centre earlier this week and the driver had this on.

Now I've listened to it before and thought it was dreadful. I was in for probably 7 and a half minutes and that was enough to confirm my original thoughts.

I don't know who were on, but they were shocking. Interrupting each other - refusing to acknowledge anybody else's opinion - just... terrible.
sounds like a politics thread on here... :mrgreen:

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Post by CFS » Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:31 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:28 pm
You never said. What position are you playing?
I'm replacing tarks according to our new manager.

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Post by CFS » Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:32 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:29 pm
It wasn’t funny the first time you said it never mind the 50th.
This ain't a laughing matter granny. It's pure facts that we've been busy in the transfer market so far. :D

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Post by 2 Bee Holed » Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:36 pm

Bigvince wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:59 pm
Talk sport, if they said it goes dark a night, I wouldn’t believe them!!
It doesn't go dark, there is just a lack of light, that's all.

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Post by Boss Hogg » Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:53 pm

CFS wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:32 pm
This ain't a laughing matter granny. It's pure facts that we've been busy in the transfer market so far. :D
So is it or isn’t it a laughing matter ? Maybe you hit the laughing emoji button by mistake

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Post by Burnley Ace » Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:12 pm

joey13 wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:03 pm
Al he’s asked for is more guidelines,yet you support the Boards view :roll:
How naive you are!! You’ve fallen for his woe is me patter. Perhaps if he kept his mouth shut and got on with the job (for which he is incredibly well paid) we wouldn’t have pages and pages of ill informed comment.

If he can’t do the job it’s time for him to move on.
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Post by BOYSIE31 » Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:21 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:11 pm
I'll be :shock: if we bring in 5, but we definitely need a CB,CM, & RW as a bare minimum, and that's just replacing Gibson, Hendrick and Lennon, plus Cork is unlikely to be on the pitch before Xmas. We could play Brownhill/Westwood in a 2, but that's risky gambling on their fitness for that length of time, we should have learned this from when Marney did his cruciate.

I'm curious why you think we shop in the wrong place, if you mean the Championship we have plenty of successes from that league, albeit not as many recently,
There are plenty of quality players outside the British isles who would jump at a chance of playing in this league and see us as a step up - Dyche refuses that route but then complains about the prices for players in the championship where he wants to shop

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Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS SUMMER 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:23 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:21 pm
There are plenty of quality players outside the British isles who would jump at a chance of playing in this league and see us as a step up - Dyche refuses that route but then complains about the prices for players in the championship where he wants to shop
I thought it was Rigg who got the names ?

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