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Re: Tark - transfer

Post by HahaYeah » Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:58 am

Can't see him playing tonight in case someone comes in with an acceptable offer.

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Re: Tark - transfer

Post by Gordaleman » Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:59 am

HahaYeah wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:58 am
Can't see him playing tonight in case someone comes in with an acceptable offer.
I don't think anyone will. The £30 million that's being talked about is well short of what he's worth to us.

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Re: Tark - transfer

Post by Zlatan » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:15 pm

If his heads turned I’d rather he didn’t play. Nothing worse that pulling out of a tackle in case you get injured.

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Re: Tark - transfer

Post by summitclaret » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:22 pm

He's 27 and will want to maximise his income through the prime if his career. He can probably get double what we could offer in a 4 or 5 year deal and no relegation clause. That's about £10 to £12m.

He's off. If we don't pick up points in the meantime, it's because we have not replaced Gibson.

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Re: Tark - transfer

Post by Tall Paul » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:25 pm

cblantfanclub wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:29 am
The Clarets are winless in each of the last 18 Premier League fixtures that James Tarkowski has missed, losing 10 of those matches.

Who were they against and at what point of the season?
He's only missed ten games in the last three seasons, since Keane left.

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Re: Tark - transfer

Post by Safron » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:28 pm

Why can't both dyche and Gibson both eat a slice of humble pie and bring the bugger back???

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Re: Tark - transfer

Post by Woonderbah » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:34 pm

Belgianclaret wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 9:10 am
20 million will get you Simon Deli from Bruges (but don’t say you heard it from me)

But is he ready to go ?

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Re: Tark - transfer

Post by The Enclosure » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:42 pm

Tarks would be a great fit for Man Utd they really do need a good CB.Plus they can afford it.
Not that I want him to leave.

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Re: Tark - transfer

Post by summitclaret » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:48 pm

The Enclosure wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:42 pm
Tarks would be a great fit for Man Utd they really do need a good CB.Plus they can afford it.
Not that I want him to leave.
Nobody would, but it the only way we could get what he is worth and maybe a suitable replacement as part of a single deal. Thus avoiding the inevitable last minute poker game with a different club and crucially the risk of being short at cb until Jan and at great risk of a relegation battle.

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Re: Tark - transfer

Post by claretandy » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:48 pm

I don't think he will play until the window closes, we will turn down all offers below £40M, he will still be here when the window shuts.

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Re: Tark - transfer

Post by Pearcey » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:56 pm

Dyche certainly put pressure on Garlick not to sell in his pre-match interview. I do get the feeling that Tarky wants to leave though and you can’t blame him at this stage in his career.

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Re: Tark - transfer

Post by FactualFrank » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:57 pm

Pearcey wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:56 pm
Dyche certainly put pressure on Garlick not to sell in his pre-match interview. I do get the feeling that Tarky wants to leave though and you can’t blame him at this stage in his career.
It sounds like although he may be open to a move, he won't force it. Otherwise, I don't think SD would have said what he said.

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Re: Tark - transfer

Post by Gordaleman » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:58 pm

claretandy wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:48 pm
I don't think he will play until the window closes, we will turn down all offers below £40M, he will still be here when the window shuts.
"he will still be here when the window shuts."

Then he might as well play.

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Re: Tark - transfer

Post by Corky » Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:04 pm

If, as I have seen mentioned, the release clause is £50m. then that, surely is the minimum he should go for.
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Re: Tark - transfer

Post by Gordaleman » Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:20 pm

Corky wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:04 pm
If, as I have seen mentioned, the release clause is £50m. then that, surely is the minimum he should go for.
That's up to Burnley, not Tarky. It was them that inserted the clause and it didn't include Leicester anyway.

Be surprised if Tarky wanted to move to the midlands anyway. He moved to us to be near his ill Mum didn't he? I assume she's still ill?

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Re: Tark - transfer

Post by Pearcey » Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:25 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:58 pm
"he will still be here when the window shuts."

Then he might as well play.
He’s injured.

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Re: Tark - transfer

Post by Grumps » Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:27 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:20 pm
That's up to Burnley, not Tarky. It was them that inserted the clause and it didn't include Leicester anyway.

Be surprised if Tarky wanted to move to the midlands anyway. He moved to us to be near his ill Mum didn't he? I assume she's still ill?
Depends how ill she was, she might be cured.

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Re: Tark - transfer

Post by Gordaleman » Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:27 pm

Pearcey wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:25 pm
He’s injured.
Still? Sean keeps telling us he's being considered. Don't be too surprised if he plays today. Bet Sean would love to play him to reduce the speculation about him.

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Re: Tark - transfer

Post by Pearcey » Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:29 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:27 pm
Still? Sean keeps telling us he's being considered. Don't be too surprised if he plays today. Bet Sean would love to play him to reduce the speculation about him.
He’d love to play him full stop and I’m sure he would if he was fit.

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Re: Tark - transfer

Post by Gordaleman » Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:29 pm

Grumps wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:27 pm
Depends how ill she was, she might be cured.
True, but I think it was something not so easy to 'Cure'. I haven't heard anything. Have you?

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Re: Tark - transfer

Post by Gordaleman » Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:34 pm

Pearcey wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:29 pm
He’d love to play him full stop and I’m sure he would if he was fit.
There's just too much rumour and speculation around as usual in the transfer window. Papers write all sorts of nonsense about players being unsettled etc.. He might not want to leave at all. Why would he with the comaraderie in the dressing room? There's not many teams he could join that are as 'Together' as Burnley.

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Re: Tark - transfer

Post by Grumps » Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:43 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:29 pm
True, but I think it was something not so easy to 'Cure'. I haven't heard anything. Have you?
I thinks she's been pictured at games, but don't know any more

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Re: Tark - transfer

Post by Grumps » Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:45 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:34 pm
There's just too much rumour and speculation around as usual in the transfer window. Papers write all sorts of nonsense about players being unsettled etc.. He might not want to leave at all. Why would he with the comaraderie in the dressing room? There's not many teams he could join that are as 'Together' as Burnley.
Probably about 40k more reasons a week :lol:

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Re: Tark - transfer

Post by Gordaleman » Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:50 pm

Grumps wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:45 pm
Probably about 40k more reasons a week :lol:
And if he waits while January and plays well for us, he'll probably get more than that at Utd if they carry on playing the way they are today.

Have to admit that Rashford's goal was a bit of class though.

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Post by FCBurnley » Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:58 pm

He has an injured big toe. CT confirmed this yesterday so obviously he won’t play today. So it will be Danny boy v Dunne and Long I assume

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Re: Tark - transfer

Post by evensteadiereddie » Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:58 pm

Either way, this needs sorting, If clubs are interested enough to bid we should quote a selling price - 40 to £50 mill - and wait for a simple yes or no.
These upcoming games v Saints and Newcastle are the kind of ones that will keep us up - or not. We can't afford to be messed about much longer.
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Post by Zlatan » Sat Sep 26, 2020 2:05 pm

What people don’t seem to realise about the release clause is that it was inserted during the times of huge fees like £85M for Maguire and its there to FAVOUR Tarkowski if a NW top six club wants him. It is not applicable to any other club, so even if they offered £100M we wouldn’t have to sell (chances are we would, but that’s a different story)

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Re: Tark - transfer

Post by kaptin1 » Sat Sep 26, 2020 2:09 pm

It’s not just about the headline price though, it’s the structure of the deal too. So how much up front, how much in add ons etc. Might be better to take a lower fee with a greater proportion in cash up front than a larger that fee spread out over four or five years or that includes substantial add ons.

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Re: Tark - transfer

Post by Pearcey » Sat Sep 26, 2020 2:21 pm

If selling Tarky means we can sign the likes of Dawson and Wilson then it would take the edge off him leaving for me.

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Re: Tark - transfer

Post by Wokingclaret » Sat Sep 26, 2020 2:36 pm

Dawson has been poor for Watford

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Post by AfloatinClaret » Sat Sep 26, 2020 2:42 pm

Pearcey wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 2:21 pm
If selling Tarky means we can sign the likes of Dawson and Wilson then it would take the edge off him leaving for me.
Are you Craig Dawson's Agent?
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Re: Tark - transfer

Post by jojomk1 » Sat Sep 26, 2020 2:58 pm

If any players says they are "feeling" an injury there's not much a club can do

Ings against Long and Dunne means at least lots of goals - just had a bet on 4+

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Re: Tark - transfer

Post by Pearcey » Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:08 pm

I think Dawson would be quality in a Dyche team. More of a goal threat than both Mee and Tarky too.

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Re: Tark - transfer

Post by Spijed » Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:18 pm

jojomk1 wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 2:58 pm
If any players says they are "feeling" an injury there's not much a club can do

Ings against Long and Dunne means at least lots of goals - just had a bet on 4+
You really think Southampton are likely to get four or more?

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Post by jojomk1 » Sat Sep 26, 2020 4:03 pm

Spijed wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:18 pm
You really think Southampton are likely to get four or more?
4 or more goals total in game either side
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Re: Tark - transfer

Post by Firthy » Sat Sep 26, 2020 4:48 pm

I've been of the opinion that Tarks is going nowhere but if he doesn't play against Southampton then even I have to admit that it's not looking good for us. Surely a mysterious toe injury doesn't take that long to mend.

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Re: Tark - transfer

Post by FactualFrank » Sat Sep 26, 2020 4:53 pm

Firthy wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 4:48 pm
I've been of the opinion that Tarks is going nowhere but if he doesn't play against Southampton then even I have to admit that it's not looking good for us. Surely a mysterious toe injury doesn't take that long to mend.
I believe Tony when he says it's a genuine injury, as if he wasn't sure he wouldn't have said anything.

Whether or not he's telling the physios that he's still in pain, to prevent him playing, is of course another thing entirely.
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Re: Tark - transfer

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Sep 26, 2020 5:07 pm

Wokingclaret wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 2:36 pm
Dawson has been poor for Watford
Do we really know for sure that Dawson is any better than either Kevin Long or Jimmy Dunne?
he's not been too bad, but relegated twice and loaned out to lower league clubs twice now.

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Re: Tark - transfer

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sat Sep 26, 2020 6:26 pm

Has anyone seen Tarky drive into the Turf?

Come on we have scouts everywhere.

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Post by jojomk1 » Sat Sep 26, 2020 6:28 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 5:07 pm
Do we really know for sure that Dawson is any better than either Kevin Long or Jimmy Dunne?
he's not been too bad, but relegated twice and loaned out to lower league clubs twice now.
Based on experience/games to date, he is better than both

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Re: Tark - transfer

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Sep 26, 2020 6:34 pm

jojomk1 wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 6:28 pm
Based on experience/games to date, he is better than both
Experience is fine to a point; but at some stage it begins to count for less and less, eventually nothing at all.

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Re: Tark - transfer

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sat Sep 26, 2020 6:42 pm

If Tarky goes we need pace bringing in.

The QE2 turns quicker than Dawson, so he's no good between Bardsley and Mee.

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Post by Gordaleman » Sat Sep 26, 2020 6:47 pm

Firthy wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 4:48 pm
I've been of the opinion that Tarks is going nowhere but if he doesn't play against Southampton then even I have to admit that it's not looking good for us. Surely a mysterious toe injury doesn't take that long to mend.
I don't think he's going anywhere either. At least, not until January.

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Re: Tark - transfer

Post by NewClaret » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:00 pm

No Tarks :(

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Re: Tark - transfer

Post by Gordaleman » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:02 pm

BURNLEY TEAM NEWS

Team to face Southampton: Pope, Bardsley, Long, Dunne, Taylor, Brownhill, Stephens, Westwood, McNeil, Vydra, Wood.

Subs: Peacock-Farrell, Lowton, Pieters, Thomas, Benson, Goodridge, Driscoll-Glennon.

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Re: Tark - transfer

Post by MT03ALG » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:03 pm

Leicester bound
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Re: Tark - transfer

Post by burnley007 » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:05 pm

Our best player.
But the way this is being dragged out is ridiculous

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Re: Tark - transfer

Post by cblantfanclub » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:06 pm

BBC - "The Clarets are winless in each of the last 18 Premier League fixtures that James Tarkowski has missed, losing 10 of those matches."


Tall Paul - "He's only missed ten games in the last three seasons, since Keane left."

and of those we drew 6 and lost 4 that really is bad journalism - even if they included Leicester it's total bobbins

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Post by Gordaleman » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:09 pm

Think positive. We haven't lost to Southampton in the last seven PL games.

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Re: Tark - transfer

Post by box_of_frogs » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:10 pm

As I said before, as long as he goes to a top 6 team for a good amount of money, then fine. Thanks for your efforts, you’ve been great.

But please stop telling tales about toe injuries keeping him out of the side.
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