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Post by summitclaret » Sun Sep 27, 2020 7:32 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 7:28 pm
Lets see-no one knows for sure but consider this
-he lost the captaincy in a game he played in
-this shortly after he went on record as saying he wanted to get back in the England squad and wanted Champions League,and indicated neither were possible at BFC
-he had a record at Brentford for going on strike
-pre Sheff Utd game Chris Boden said it was only a toe injury, had it been a league game he would have started
-previously in all his time at Burnley he hardly missed a minute(he had a hand operation during the International break-that I believe has been the extent of his injury)
-anti biotics can work fairly immediately on an alleged infected toe
-he has missed 4 cup and league games with what is a minor injury
-this has all happened through intense speculation that several bids have been made by two clubs
-SD is very vague about his injury. Just watch his body language when he talked about it last night
-he travelled to Millwall and was part of the squad

Do you want me to go on
Sounds like we need to keep him well away from Ian Woan.
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Post by lesxdp » Sun Sep 27, 2020 7:44 pm

I think it is time to say goodbye to Tarky, and I think it will be perhaps a bitter parting.

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Post by Duffer_ » Sun Sep 27, 2020 7:45 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 10:02 am
Nixon says we are keen on Steve Cook for 8m should Tarkowski be sold. Or Scott Dann/Craig Dawson.
Steve Cook? Why would we buy a keeper to replace a CB?

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Post by warksclaret » Sun Sep 27, 2020 7:50 pm

I would have thought Steve Cook at best is valued roughly what Dale Stephens was. Never in a million years should we be parting with £8m

Dawson is better and I read that £5.5m was his value

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Post by Woodleyclaret » Sun Sep 27, 2020 7:54 pm

Dawson and Deeney in a £10m deal would be worthwhile

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Post by Duffer_ » Sun Sep 27, 2020 7:56 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 7:54 pm
Dawson and Deeney in a £10m deal would be worthwhile
Only if we have to pay £11m for Dawson.

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Post by MACCA » Sun Sep 27, 2020 7:59 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 7:54 pm
Dawson and Deeney in a £10m deal would be worthwhile
Rather we paid 12m and left Deeney there.
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Post by up_the_clarets_1989 » Sun Sep 27, 2020 8:01 pm

summitclaret wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 7:32 pm
Sounds like we need to keep him well away from Ian Woan.
I've seen Woan mentioned in a few comments on here recently when talking about Gibson. Did something happen with them?

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Post by Bigvince » Sun Sep 27, 2020 8:14 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 4:55 pm
If Tarkowski is refusing to play, as now I firmly believe to be the case (sorry but no one can prove to me otherwise), then couple this with Gibsongate and you feel the management is dead soft. He must surely have lost the respect from his colleagues. Maybe if Southgate is kept in the know it throws out the wrong signals re a recall to the England squad. One very immature person
Sorry but it can’t be proven to be true, therefore it’s remains just speculation

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Post by Wokingclaret » Sun Sep 27, 2020 8:25 pm

If i was a betting man.....

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Post by warksclaret » Sun Sep 27, 2020 8:25 pm

From what I've heard Woan and Gibson had a fall-out, and naturally SD supported Woan

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Post by warksclaret » Sun Sep 27, 2020 8:28 pm

Bigvince wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 8:14 pm
Sorry but it can’t be proven to be true, therefore it’s remains just speculation
You have obviously not read my later post

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Post by BurnleyMickSouth » Sun Sep 27, 2020 8:29 pm

I have heard on the grapevine, insider football, that someone in the know at West Ham says there is nothing wrong with Tarkys Toe, apparantley he is not getting game time because he wont let the club look at the so called damaged toe, to assess the damage, says he is doing it to get the move that he wants, remember he did almost the same to come to us from Brentford, if you dont want to play for Burnley then go and do one. :evil:
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Post by FactualFrank » Sun Sep 27, 2020 8:31 pm

BurnleyMickSouth wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 8:29 pm
I have heard on the grapevine, insider football, that someone in the know at West Ham says there is nothing wrong with Tarkys Toe, apparantley he is not getting game time because he wont let the club look at the so called damaged toe, to assess the damage, says he is doing it to get the move that he wants, remember he did almost the same to come to us from Brentford, if you dont want to play for Burnley then go and do one. :evil:
I read the same thing, but then looked at the account on Twitter (source) and it was nothing to write home about.

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Post by Reecey1987 » Sun Sep 27, 2020 8:43 pm

Andy Jones says our bid for Wilson was 12 m + 4 m add ons discussions still on going

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Sep 27, 2020 8:53 pm

Reecey1987 wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 8:43 pm
Andy Jones says our bid for Wilson was 12 m + 4 m add ons discussions still on going
I haven’t seen it that it has been turned down yet? So I assume the only thing they are discussing is terms of payment

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Post by Reecey1987 » Sun Sep 27, 2020 8:54 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 8:53 pm
I haven’t seen it that it has been turned down yet? So I assume the only thing they are discussing is terms of payment
Like you say its more likely the way its structured

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Post by FactualFrank » Sun Sep 27, 2020 8:55 pm

Reecey1987 wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 8:43 pm
Andy Jones says our bid for Wilson was 12 m + 4 m add ons discussions still on going
Interesting. I sense that we were thinking £15 million total and Liverpool wanted £20 million. So maybe we've upped it a million and Liverpool are now considering it.

It would be a very very decent coup if this comes off. Definitely a profit to be made in the long term and Liverpool get someone off their books.

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Post by boatshed bill » Sun Sep 27, 2020 8:59 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 8:55 pm
Interesting. I sense that we were thinking £15 million total and Liverpool wanted £20 million. So maybe we've upped it a million and Liverpool are now considering it.

It would be a very very decent coup if this comes off. Definitely a profit to be made in the long term and Liverpool get someone off their books.
They don't want him, this deal would make sense all round. Although he might have to take a pay cut.

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Post by Reecey1987 » Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:02 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 8:55 pm
Interesting. I sense that we were thinking £15 million total and Liverpool wanted £20 million. So maybe we've upped it a million and Liverpool are now considering it.

It would be a very very decent coup if this comes off. Definitely a profit to be made in the long term and Liverpool get someone off their books.
Apparently he's been told he's no longer wanted at Liverpool which should work in our favour if we can structure a deal

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Post by FactualFrank » Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:11 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 8:59 pm
They don't want him, this deal would make sense all round. Although he might have to take a pay cut.
Reecey1987 wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:02 pm
Apparently he's been told he's no longer wanted at Liverpool which should work in our favour if we can structure a deal
I hope so. He's easily good enough to make our starting 11 and like I say, has the age to turn a profit in the future. Liverpool will understandably want a cut on any future sale, but this could work for both parties.

It's the delay that's slightly worrying. I expected this to be done by now if it was happening.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:11 pm

To be honest I would be amazed if we managed to pull this off. I would genuinely be very excited if Wilson and McNeil were swinging crosses into wood.

Interesting stat, he out scored Bernardo Silva last season.
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Post by Gordaleman » Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:12 pm

BurnleyMickSouth wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 8:29 pm
I have heard on the grapevine, insider football, that someone in the know at West Ham says there is nothing wrong with Tarkys Toe, apparantley he is not getting game time because he wont let the club look at the so called damaged toe, to assess the damage, says he is doing it to get the move that he wants, remember he did almost the same to come to us from Brentford, if you dont want to play for Burnley then go and do one. :evil:
Yes, the Wet Spam article probably came from this board.

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Post by Reecey1987 » Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:22 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:11 pm
I hope so. He's easily good enough to make our starting 11 and like I say, has the age to turn a profit in the future. Liverpool will understandably want a cut on any future sale, but this could work for both parties.

It's the delay that's slightly worrying. I expected this to be done by now if it was happening.
I guess we will find out in the next few days. For us to be chasing him and leaving it so late in the window he must of give us some indication that he's up for joining or you would be swiftly moving onto the next . I think it will happen its just a case of when

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:25 pm

Surely if this is going to happen it needs to happen Monday-Tuesday

He needs at least a few days with the squad before featuring on Saturday

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Post by Gordaleman » Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:28 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:25 pm
Surely if this is going to happen it needs to happen Monday-Tuesday

He needs at least a few days with the squad before featuring on Saturday
Yes, it would be nice if a deal could be worked out in time, but neither Liverpool and Burnley aren't going to rush a mega million deal just to get him here for an extra game.

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Post by ksrclaret » Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:29 pm

Hahaha. Harry Wilson.

I’d say there is a far higher chance of us signing his namesake, Woodrow, before we spend the sums being suggested on Harry.

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Post by FactualFrank » Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:30 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:25 pm
Surely if this is going to happen it needs to happen Monday-Tuesday

He needs at least a few days with the squad before featuring on Saturday
I read "in the next 10 days" from one source, meaning it's likely to go down to the last few days/hours of the transfer window. Why? No idea, but he's probably wanting to wait out and see if any other clubs come in for him.

I think this is basically how Burnley have to work. Annoying for fans? Absolutely, but I just sense from what I read and hear, that our best chance of bringing players in is when every other teams have pretty much done their business, and so players don't really have many alternatives.

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Post by Gordaleman » Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:32 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:29 pm
Hahaha. Harry Wilson.

I’d say there is a far higher chance of us signing his namesake, Woodrow, before we spend the sums being suggested on Harry.
Then I'd say there's a very good chance you'll be wrong.

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Post by ksrclaret » Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:37 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:32 pm
Then I'd say there's a very good chance you'll be wrong.
Ooh I say, you’ve really stuck your neck on the line there.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:46 pm

To be fair KSR betting odds are normally a pretty good indicator if there is anything in this. Right now Burnley are 1-6 to sign him

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Post by ksrclaret » Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:49 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:46 pm
To be fair KSR betting odds are normally a pretty good indicator if there is anything in this. Right now Burnley are 1-6 to sign him
It’s an odd one because this potential signing just doesn’t tally with anything we’ve seen, heard or done so far this summer. There does seem to something more to it than just a passing rumour, but I find it difficult to imagine.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:54 pm

The Athletic are a pretty decent source. There could be a number of reasons.

The board might have invested on the knowledge that a takeover where they make millions in profit could be in jeopardy if we don’t stay up.

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Post by FactualFrank » Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:57 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:54 pm
The board might have invested on the knowledge that a takeover where they make millions in profit could be in jeopardy if we don’t stay up.
I don't get that.

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Post by Bigvince » Sun Sep 27, 2020 10:03 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 8:28 pm
You have obviously not read my later post
I am not obligated to read everyone of your posts, Just pointing out that, if you have an opinion everyone is not obliged to share the same one!

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Sep 27, 2020 10:05 pm

Sorry that sounded a lot clearer in my head.

I’m saying that the board might be spending money on Wilson in the hope a marquee signing will help keep the team up. I think the board will spend the money in the hope that it keeps the team up and the foreign investors come in as a result in

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Post by Dark Cloud » Sun Sep 27, 2020 10:08 pm

If Wilson was sat in front of his tele watching that crap last night, he'll be giving Jurgen a bell begging to go somewhere (anywhere!) else! We hardly "advertised" ourselves unfortunately!

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Post by FactualFrank » Sun Sep 27, 2020 10:10 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 10:05 pm
Sorry that sounded a lot clearer in my head.

I’m saying that the board might be spending money on Wilson in the hope a marquee signing will help keep the team up. I think the board will spend the money in the hope that it keeps the team up and the foreign investors come in as a result in
It's hard to know, I guess. We've finished 7th and 10th in our last 3 seasons - that's got to be huge to anybody looking at investing. This wasn't luck, we've done it because we're good enough to be a top half Premier League side. These injuries are above what I would say is normalisation - you wouldn't get this number of injuries normally over the course of time.

But yeah, what you say about Wilson could be a bit of speculating to accumulate? Or we're using the savings we have to do it, knowing he'd be filling a huge hole.

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Post by colne-claret » Sun Sep 27, 2020 10:14 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 10:08 pm
If Wilson was sat in front of his tele watching that crap last night, he'll be giving Jurgen a bell begging to go somewhere (anywhere!) else! We hardly "advertised" ourselves unfortunately!
Or he could have thought I'm exactly the player that could make the difference...maybe 😂
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Post by scouseclaret » Sun Sep 27, 2020 10:17 pm

If Burnley and Liverpool are as close as reported then the Wilson seal should get done. My suspicion is that this, and any deal to bring in another centre half, are contingent on Tarkowski being sold, in which case it’s going to be a frantic Monday next week.

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Post by FactualFrank » Sun Sep 27, 2020 10:19 pm

colne-claret wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 10:14 pm
Or he could have thought I'm exactly the player that could make the difference...maybe 😂
Yep! I was thinking the same thing.

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Post by Jakubs Tash » Sun Sep 27, 2020 10:31 pm

scouseclaret wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 10:17 pm
If Burnley and Liverpool are as close as reported then the Wilson seal should get done. My suspicion is that this, and any deal to bring in another centre half, are contingent on Tarkowski being sold, in which case it’s going to be a frantic Monday next week.
We need to replace Gibson first. Hopefully we also have someone lined up for when Tarkowski leaves.

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Post by jrgbfc » Sun Sep 27, 2020 10:46 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 10:31 pm
We need to replace Gibson first. Hopefully we also have someone lined up for when Tarkowski leaves.
I don't think we'll replace Gibson. If Tarky stays we'll go with Kevin Long and Jimmy Dunne as backup.

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Post by FactualFrank » Sun Sep 27, 2020 10:47 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 10:31 pm
We need to replace Gibson first. Hopefully we also have someone lined up for when Tarkowski leaves.
Only if our budget allows one and not both.

If we can do both I don't give a toss which we do first.

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Post by Jakubs Tash » Sun Sep 27, 2020 11:04 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 10:46 pm
I don't think we'll replace Gibson. If Tarky stays we'll go with Kevin Long and Jimmy Dunne as backup.
If we don't then we have gone backwards. Long should be 4th choice at best and Dunne might have done 'ok' last week but he certainly is not the answer long term.

If Tarkowski leaves we need an experienced centre half for now and also a younger centre half to be 3rd choice and learn the ropes and grow into it for a few months.

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Post by summitclaret » Sun Sep 27, 2020 11:06 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 11:04 pm
If we don't then we have gone backwards. Long should be 4th choice at best and Dunne might have done 'ok' last week but he certainly is not the answer long term.

If Tarkowski leaves we need an experienced centre half for now and also a younger centre half to be 3rd choice and learn the ropes and grow into it for a few months.
This is true.

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Post by NewClaret » Sun Sep 27, 2020 11:12 pm

summitclaret wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 11:06 pm
This is true.
Very true.

If Tarky goes we need two CB’s to replace him & Gibson or we’ve weakened.

We also need a right winger and arguably cover for Dwight (Brady’s not the answer there either). Quite a pickle we’re in needing three players, possibly four, without any money!

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Post by CFS » Sun Sep 27, 2020 11:59 pm

Let's not forget Wilson got relegated so he ain't exactly a world beater. He needs us as much as we need him.

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Post by FactualFrank » Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:04 am

CFS wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 11:59 pm
Let's not forget Wilson got relegated so he ain't exactly a world beater. He needs us as much as we need him.
You're making the fishing too easy now, as most fans know where we got Heaton from. Try again.

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Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS SUMMER 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Post by jurek » Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:06 am

It's looking very much like Garlick has decided to let
Tarks go but is hanging on hoping to get 35-40m for him.
Even though Dyche has said he doesn't want him to go.

Hence he may have also decided to sanction money on bringing in 2 or 3 others
(Wilson, Christie and another CB?) which may well cost us 30m+ in total.

I have to say I'm saddened to hear Tarkowski might be playing up his injury
in seeking a move - if that be true. I hope that's not the case.
It leaves a sour taste in the mouth, if so.
I can't blame him for wishing away but not in this way.
Apart from his stated wishes to play at the highest level and his disappointment
at being left out of the England squad plus being voted the second best centre-half
in Europe (alongside Virgil van Dijk, I think) he's obviously reached the conclusion
that he's not likely to achieve his ambitions staying with us.
That's not to mention the money side of it.
One would hope he'd show a touch more loyalty to the club/manager
that have assisted him in getting to where he was/is now.

Whatever, you could argue that even if he stayed we still would need to restructure
the team and get a few in. Especially in midfield.
It's going to be a difficult week ahead.

Let's hope by the time the international break comes we can refocus
and rebuild the team and get a few back up and ready for the fight.
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