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Ross Barkley

Post by Quickenthetempo » Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:44 am

Signs on loan for Villa to the end of the season.

Excellent signing for them.

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by BurnleyPaul » Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:49 am

Looks like Lampard is sorting the Chelsea squad out properly now and getting rid of those who he doesn’t want.

Wonder who else is available?

As an aside I wonder if Dean Smith is looking to play Barkley alongside Grealish or this is the precursor to his sale...?

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by Boss Hogg » Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:50 am

Good signing for them. When Villa stayed up by the skin of their teeth it was clear they would be much stronger this year.
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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by colne-claret » Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:52 am

Will be a brilliant signing even more so than Danny Drinkwater was.
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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:53 am

Potentially a good signing, but I'll wait and see first.

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:55 am

Apparently Ruben Loftus-Cheek is available for loan.

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by burnley007 » Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:56 am

I would have loved to see RB here.
gutted

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by LAM » Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:56 am

I think this will prove to be an excellent signing for them.

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by Conroysleftfoot » Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:58 am

It is a good signing. I think Smith had said he wanted another player in who could take some of the pressure off Grealish as far as creativity was concerned. I don't think Villa will struggle this season. They have started well although they haven't played anybody to truly test them yet, this weekend will be interesting they play Liverpool on Sunday.

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by RVclaret » Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:59 am

Excellent signing. Villa done far better business in this window. Expect them to stay up.

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:00 am

Pity has wages would blow us out of the water, Loftus-Cheek too

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by Socrates » Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:01 am

Far from convinced about this one.

There’s a reason he’s nearly 27 and out on loan at Aston Villa. A lot of promise with Barkley but he’s not really progressed from when he was a teenager and doesn’t seem to have much game intelligence.

And Villa already have one midfielder who doesn’t like passing to anybody. I’m not sure their team can accommodate two.

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by Local cricketer » Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:04 am

See how long he stays fit for

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by CardiffClaret » Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:13 am

BurnleyPaul wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:49 am
Looks like Lampard is sorting the Chelsea squad out properly now and getting rid of those who he doesn’t want.

Wonder who else is available?

As an aside I wonder if Dean Smith is looking to play Barkley alongside Grealish or this is the precursor to his sale...?
I doubt it - hasn’t Grealish just signed a new long term contract?

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by Dyched » Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:21 am

Watching them the other day (I know against Fulmam, not the best to merit them on) but I thought. “If they can keep McGinn and Grealish fit for 95% of their games against teams outside the top 6/8 they’ll stay up, easily”. Now with Barkley in their too. They’ve got a match winning midfield.

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by rufus lumley » Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:23 am

Thats sorted the top 6 for the season.
Liverpool
Leicester
Villa
Everton
Man City
Leeds

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by maccclaret » Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:44 am

rufus lumley wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:23 am
Thats sorted the top 6 for the season.
You forgot Brighton.
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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:46 am

BurnleyPaul wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:49 am
As an aside I wonder if Dean Smith is looking to play Barkley alongside Grealish or this is the precursor to his sale...?
Hasn't Grealish just signed a long term deal?

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by tim_noone » Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:00 pm

Good player.

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by BurnleyPaul » Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:03 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:46 am
Hasn't Grealish just signed a long term deal?
Wouldn’t be the first time that a player has signed a new contract in order to increase their value and then be sold shortly afterwards...
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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by Steve1956 » Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:04 pm

Top top player is Barkley,surprised Chelsea have let him go,wish we could get a midfielder half as good as Barkley.

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by Leisure » Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:11 pm

rufus lumley wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:23 am
Thats sorted the top 6 for the season.
Liverpool
Leicester
Villa
Everton
Man City
Leeds
Villa, Everton and Leeds above Spurs, Arsenal and Chelsea!

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by BurnleyFC » Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:15 pm

BurnleyPaul wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:49 am
Looks like Lampard is sorting the Chelsea squad out properly now and getting rid of those who he doesn’t want.

Wonder who else is available?

As an aside I wonder if Dean Smith is looking to play Barkley alongside Grealish or this is the precursor to his sale...?
I wonder if we’d be able to nip back in for Drinky?

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by Steve1956 » Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:19 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:15 pm
I wonder if we’d be able to nip back in for Drinky?
Much sooner ask Villa about Henri.

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by Bigvince » Wed Sep 30, 2020 1:15 pm

I’d have been delighted with Barkley, he’s an excellent player! Can’t get into Chelsea midfield, would walk into most premier league starting 11

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by Woodleyclaret » Wed Sep 30, 2020 1:31 pm

Barkley is another who plays when hes arsed not what we or Chelsea needed

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by KRBFC » Wed Sep 30, 2020 1:35 pm

Well that’s Villa safe for this season

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by Bigvince » Wed Sep 30, 2020 1:38 pm

Can’t believe some Clarets would turn their nose up at Ross Barkley!

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by NewClaret » Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:07 pm

Decent player. Good signing for Villa. Not What we need though.

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by warksclaret » Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:13 pm

Frank Lampard's greatest managerial strength is spending money. He shows signs of losing it. Personally I think it was too big a position too soon. Got a lot of respect last season because he brought several youngsters through and Chelsea were blocked from spending in the transfer market. Having spent over £200m he will come under immense pressure

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by Socrates » Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:16 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:04 pm
Top top player is Barkley
He really isn’t.

He isn’t even a top player, never mind needing the second “top”.

He made his pro debut 10 years ago. Since then he’s made 193 starts and a further 67 appearances from the bench - so 260 appearances in all club competitions in a decade. He’s scored 40 goals.

So that’s 4 goals a season for a decade as an attacking midfielder. A goal every six and a half games. I can only get his assist record in the Premier League, but it’s about 1 every 8 games.

There’s a reason Chelsea have let him go. There’s also a reason he’s only going to Aston Villa as well.
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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:17 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:13 pm
Frank Lampard's greatest managerial strength is spending money. He shows signs of losing it. Personally I think it was too big a position too soon. Got a lot of respect last season because he brought several youngsters through and Chelsea were blocked from spending in the transfer market. Having spent over £200m he will come under immense pressure
This is when we find out if he's really that good.

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by bobinho » Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:20 pm

Boss Hogg wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:50 am
Good signing for them. When Villa stayed up by the skin of their teeth it was clear they would be much stronger this year.
I think you are gonna have to explain that to me, because it’s not clear enough I’m afraid. :?

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by bobinho » Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:21 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:56 am
I would have loved to see RB here.
gutted
We’re you gutted we didn’t land Bale as well?

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by Jakubclaret » Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:29 pm

A good player definitely for a midtable to outside top 6 side, I feel he never really got the chance at chelsea thru not being selected because of injury or loss of form or simply inferior to what else was available for selection coinciding when we was available himself for selection.

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by ashtonlongsider » Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:42 pm

Just the type of player we're crying out for.

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by TVC15 » Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:44 pm

The lad is a bit of a d-ick to be honest and not half as good as he thinks he is in his head.
But Villa do look stronger and already appear to be playing with more confidence. They have McGinn back which is massive for them and Matty Cash and Watkins both look quality signings - as does Martinez in the nets and with Heaton they now have good keepers.
Ross Barkley won’t play every week - because he can’t. He doesn’t keep himself fit enough and picks up injuries easily. But when he does play I can see him scoring half a dozen goals at least as he does have a very good strike with both feet and Villa do make a lot of chances.

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by Socrates » Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:35 pm

Ask yourself this :-

1. Is Villa’s defence good enough to have a midfield of McGinn, Barkley and Grealish in it? I’m not seeing too much tackling and protection of the back line in there.

2. Does Barkley’s goal every six games and assist every 8 dramatically improve their attack enough to drastically improve them?


Somebody is going to have to do something they’ve never done before in their career in order for this signing to make a huge difference. I’m not saying they won’t - it’s very possible they may - but I wouldn’t be betting on it.

We’ve seen Barkley in a mid level Premier League team before. One he supported as well, not just one he’d been leant to. There were large patches where he couldn’t even get in their team.

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by TVC15 » Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:47 pm

I’m not saying he is worth £100k a week and I don’t think he is the type of player or character needed at Burnley either.
But if he does score half a dozen goals and a few assists with Villa’s deep pockets / complete lack of financial management of their budgets then that kind of contribution in a season is probably good enough for them and should mean they are not in the relegation trouble they were last year.
I’d be more worried for Villa if they stay up and then pay £20m for him and a 4 year contract on £5m a year as I’d bet good money on it he will spend most of it out of the team.

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by KateR » Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:49 pm

flatters to deceive I think, could be a top player but certainly is not in my mind at the moment and is not really good for the England team either. Which is somewhat supported by him not getting into any of the top 8 PL teams let alone top 4 or 6. Yes I know he has been in a top 4 squad but there is a reason he is being allowed to go on loan, simply not good enough for that level, perhaps this will shake him up a little and help him realize his potential.

However, I would have liked him to come to BFC and I think he would help us improve, just as I think he will for AV, which makes the bottom 3 more difficult to pick by the time the window is closed.

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by Steve1956 » Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:52 pm

Socrates wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:16 pm
He really isn’t.

He isn’t even a top player, never mind needing the second “top”.

He made his pro debut 10 years ago. Since then he’s made 193 starts and a further 67 appearances from the bench - so 260 appearances in all club competitions in a decade. He’s scored 40 goals.

So that’s 4 goals a season for a decade as an attacking midfielder. A goal every six and a half games. I can only get his assist record in the Premier League, but it’s about 1 every 8 games.

There’s a reason Chelsea have let him go. There’s also a reason he’s only going to Aston Villa as well.
So hes left a big club for a big club...a top top player is Barkley..

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by TVC15 » Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:58 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:52 pm
So hes left a big club for a big club...a top top player is Barkley..
That’s a low bar you have set there Steve !
If he was that good he would firstly not be leaving and secondly not going to Villa.
If he hadn’t done the dirty on his boyhood club he’d be going there or Spurs, Arsenal, Wolves, Leicester etc - teams challenging for top 6 or 8.

But each to his own and don’t you be doing a Wrongo and bringing my post back up when he scores 25 goals and signs for Barca !!

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by Steve1956 » Wed Sep 30, 2020 4:00 pm

TVC15 wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:58 pm
That’s a low bar you have set there Steve !
If he was that good he would firstly not be leaving and secondly not going to Villa.
If he hadn’t done the dirty on his boyhood club he’d be going there or Spurs, Arsenal, Wolves, Leicester etc - teams challenging for top 6 or 8.

But each to his own and don’t you be doing a Wrongo and bringing my post back up when he scores 25 goals and signs for Barca !!
I've book marked this post mate 😊,a top top player is Barkley

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by TVC15 » Wed Sep 30, 2020 4:05 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 4:00 pm
I've book marked this post mate 😊,a top top player is Barkley
Ok - I’m gonna bookmark your “top top player” quote for the night he is pictured eating another kebab and tripped and injured himself on a night out in Brum !!

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by Steve1956 » Wed Sep 30, 2020 4:07 pm

TVC15 wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 4:05 pm
Ok - I’m gonna bookmark your “top top player” quote for the night he is pictured eating another kebab and tripped and injured himself on a night out in Brum !!
I look forward to it 😉

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by Quicknick » Wed Sep 30, 2020 4:12 pm

rufus lumley wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:23 am
Thats sorted the top 6 for the season.
Liverpool
Leicester
Villa
Everton
Man City
Leeds
Villa, Everton and Leeds will not get in the top six. Leeds will be relegated.

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by ecc » Wed Sep 30, 2020 4:14 pm

He's technically good but then again so are a lot of PL players (thank God given the money they get paid).

But if he were that good why have Chelsea got rid?
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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by Steve1956 » Wed Sep 30, 2020 4:21 pm

ecc wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 4:14 pm
He's technically good but then again so are a lot of PL players (thank God given the money they get paid).

But if he were that good why have Chelsea got rid?
Frank probably dosent rate him,after his night club antics hes stamping his feet and showing who's in charge,but I dont rate Frank as a manager...I think Barkley will shine at Villa,they will stay up easily.
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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by JimmyRobbo » Wed Sep 30, 2020 4:31 pm

Show pony. Flatters to deceive. File with Jack Wilshere and, to a lesser extent, Tom Ince. Sort of signing that gets managers the sack.

Bizarrely, I still think he's a good signing for them! Go figure. Even I can't understand it.

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by Steve1956 » Wed Sep 30, 2020 4:33 pm

JimmyRobbo wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 4:31 pm
Show pony. Flatters to deceive. File with Jack Wilshere and, to a lesser extent, Tom Ince. Sort of signing that gets managers the sack.

Bizarrely, I still think he's a good signing for them! Go figure. Even I can't understand it.
So you wouldn't like to see him in our midfield then?

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