Some people think footballs a religion. In fact I might subscribe to that creed.
Paris.
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Karl Marx said Religion was the opium of the people ...
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Or in the case Pisttup 'Spare not the home brew'
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He had a point there but his doctrine in todays world is but lunacy.
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What about, whataboutery?
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Honestly yes
I was waiting for more information to come out before discussing it, but I was also waiting for someone else to start a thread, I got bored of waiting.
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Looking back up this thread, I remember that the 80’s & 90’s. It was a common narrative to suggest religion was the route of all evil, esp on the left. Mainly because it was Judaism & Christianity under attack. Now, because of multiculturalism, it is no longer justified to criticize a particular religion, especially by the Left.
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We’re lucky in England, we don’t have any terrorists as in France,we just have people with " mental health problems." In the meantime, remember.
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With multiculturalism , the following forms of religious/cultural revenge have become common in Europe — beheadings, acid & machete attacks. No reasonable person would welcome that into their society. The people have been betrayed, does anybody, hand on heart, genuinely believe it's going to get better, not worse?
Anybody?.....
Anybody?.....
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Well when we are Force Fed it by the BBC it does wear thin.RingoMcCartney wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:33 pmWe’re lucky in England, we don’t have any terrorists as in France,we just have people with " mental health problems." In the meantime, remember.
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The thread started out as suggesting religion was the route of all evil but one poster wasnt happy with that and wanted it to be focused just on a very certain religion hence the route this thread has taken.RingoMcCartney wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:31 pmLooking back up this thread, I remember that the 80’s & 90’s. It was a common narrative to suggest religion was the route of all evil, esp on the left. Mainly because it was Judaism & Christianity under attack. Now, because of multiculturalism, it is no longer justified to criticize a particular religion, especially by the Left.
Im not sure what we term this need for certain people from certain political positions to be obsessed with certain religions rather than the good all days when we could just criticise all religion across the board for some of the atrocities it is responsible for but maybe the messageboard snake could come up with something?
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Majority.....Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:38 pmThe thread started out as suggesting religion was the route of all evil but one poster wasnt happy with that and wanted it to be focused just on a very certain religion hence the route this thread has taken.
Im not sure what we term this need for certain people from certain political positions to be obsessed with certain religions rather than the good all days when we could just criticise all religion across the board for some of the atrocities it is responsible for but maybe the messageboard snake could come up with something?
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"Asylum seekers welcome here" chant the left, display the banners, block deportations, attack verbally and physically anyone who questions them but when things like this happen it's well he was I'll, teacher should have respected the cultural diversity, where were the police, he should have had counciling, authorities fault etc etc etc. What these left wing empty heads dont realise is they and their liberal views are the first casualties of Islamic rule.
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Well the thread is entitled 'Paris'. It relates to a shocking event there. That shocking event was enacted on religeous grounds by a lunatic. That can't be denied.Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:38 pmThe thread started out as suggesting religion was the route of all evil but one poster wasnt happy with that and wanted it to be focused just on a very certain religion hence the route this thread has taken.
Im not sure what we term this need for certain people from certain political positions to be obsessed with certain religions rather than the good all days when we could just criticise all religion across the board for some of the atrocities it is responsible for but maybe the messageboard snake could come up with something?
What is this about certain political positions being obsessed with a religion? Its nonesense is that. Its crime here comitted by a lunatic shouting what?
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Does anybody, hand on heart, genuinely believe it's going to get better, not worse?
Anybody?.....
Anybody?.....
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This was a far more shocking (and deliberately planned) death than the one that happened in Minneapolis in May so I presume our EPL players will be having minute silences (or some such) before the next umpteen rounds of EPL games in sympathy with the innocent victim & to show a bit of solidarity for the many French players now in the EPL.
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Do French lives matter?LeadBelly wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:56 pmThis was a far more shocking (and deliberately planned) death than the one that happened in Minneapolis in May so I presume our EPL players will be having minute silences (or some such) before the next umpteen rounds of EPL games in sympathy with the innocent victim & to show a bit of solidarity for the many French players now in the EPL.
We shall see.
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What a gutter this site is at times.
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A valid point . though I rather doubt there will be a show of unity for this death.LeadBelly wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:56 pmThis was a far more shocking (and deliberately planned) death than the one that happened in Minneapolis in May so I presume our EPL players will be having minute silences (or some such) before the next umpteen rounds of EPL games in sympathy with the innocent victim & to show a bit of solidarity for the many French players now in the EPL.
makes one wonder who really exerts the political pressure when it matters.
We are being duped, and its scandalous.
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Genuine question.
Which post prompted this reply?
If you can highlight it then we can all agree that the conversation should be shut down because of said post, and not because its a subject you don't feel comfortable discussing
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One man's "gutter" is a similar man's brief, but sadly rare, peak, into what most right and fair minded folk, are thinking and increasingly saying's world.
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There wasn't one single post that prompted my response. I compared this board to a gutter due to the numerous posts which are using someone's tragic death as a vehicle to parrot their bigoted views. What has this incident got to do with PL players taking the knee for example?
I don't want the conversation to be shut down, and I'm perfectly comfortable discussing this, or any subject. I'm not sure how my post has led you to think otherwise.
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I'm not in any way similar to you.RingoMcCartney wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:48 pmOne man's "gutter" is a similar man's brief, but sadly rare, peak, into what most right and fair minded folk, are thinking and increasingly saying's world.
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Feeding the crocodile hoping it eats them last......
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no flying banners, no tik tok frenzied outrage, no BBC frothing at the mouth, no radio campaigns, no twitter storms. WHY ?
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Would you please highlight them and explain why you think said posts make this board a gutter?Rileybobs wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:55 pmThere wasn't one single post that prompted my response. I compared this board to a gutter due to the numerous posts which are using someone's tragic death as a vehicle to parrot their bigoted views. What has this incident got to do with PL players taking the knee for example?
I don't want the conversation to be shut down, and I'm perfectly comfortable discussing this, or any subject. I'm not sure how my post has led you to think otherwise.
For your own and the people who liked your post's credibility please.
It just smacks of the stock response to these situations when you want the thread to be locked because you don't feel comfortable discussing it. I'd like the mods to know what it is that you feel is offensive and deserving of the conversation being being ended
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Im not linking each post, but the following posters on this page are using someone’s horrific death as an opportunity to fuel their agenda;
RingoMcCartney
bfcjg
LeadBelly
Wile E Coyote
What on earth does this person’s death have to do with diversity, PL players taking the knee, Black Lives Matter or asylum seekers?
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What is there to discuss? A man has been murdered by a religious fanatic. It’s a horrible thing that should be condemned by all but no reflection on the vast majority of law abiding followers of the religion. People do bad things in the name of religion but it’s not something I think we can do anything to prevent, the same with the vast majority of murders. If you think there’s a solution then what is it?Damo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:07 amWould you please highlight them and explain why you think said posts make this board a gutter?
For your own and the people who liked your post's credibility please.
It just smacks of the stock response to these situations when you want the thread to be locked because you don't feel comfortable discussing it. I'd like the mods to know what it is that you feel is offensive and deserving of the conversation being being ended
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How peabrained do you need to be to compare reaction to this to the reaction to the murder of George Floyd? The guy who did this was shot dead by police within minutes.
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I replied before you edited your post to add the final paragraph. I don’t care what my post smacks of to you. I definitely don’t want this thread to be locked, I don’t want any threads to be locked on here. I’m perfectly comfortable discussing this, and I’m just as comfortable for the bigots to show themselves up, although I am ashamed that I share my support of this club with these people. You’re very wide of the mark.Damo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:07 amWould you please highlight them and explain why you think said posts make this board a gutter?
For your own and the people who liked your post's credibility please.
It just smacks of the stock response to these situations when you want the thread to be locked because you don't feel comfortable discussing it. I'd like the mods to know what it is that you feel is offensive and deserving of the conversation being being ended
If you’re comfortable with the posts of Ringo etc on this thread then it says a lot more about you than me.
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Oh they have a solution. It's one that's been tried before.martin_p wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:20 amWhat is there to discuss? A man has been murdered by a religious fanatic. It’s a horrible thing that should be condemned by all but no reflection on the vast majority of law abiding followers of the religion. People do bad things in the name of religion but it’s not something I think we can do anything to prevent, the same with the vast majority of murders. If you think there’s a solution then what is it?
That ended really well, didn't it?
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You don't want people to discuss it? That's fine. Can people discuss it? Yes they absolutely can. Until people cross a line then they can discuss it.martin_p wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:20 amWhat is there to discuss? A man has been murdered by a religious fanatic. It’s a horrible thing that should be condemned by all but no reflection on the vast majority of law abiding followers of the religion. People do bad things in the name of religion but it’s not something I think we can do anything to prevent, the same with the vast majority of murders. If you think there’s a solution then what is it?
The person I quoted still hasn't properly explained why the discussion so far has turned the board into a gutter.
You agree with him and I expect you will explain on his behalf.
Again, "this board is a gutter" just smacks of asking the mods to end the discussion
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Where did I say I don’t want people to discuss it? I even offered you a discussion point that you’ve completely ignored. Ironically you’re the one that’s closing the conversation down by taking it on a tangent!Damo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:29 amYou don't want people to discuss it? That's fine. Can people discuss it? Yes they absolutely can. Until people cross a line then they can discuss it.
The person I quoted still hasn't properly explained why the discussion so far has turned the board into a gutter.
You agree with him and I expect you will explain on his behalf.
Again, "this board is a gutter" just smacks of asking the mods to end the discussion
So again, what do people think is the solution?
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I'm comfortable with the posts of everyone thus far, apart from the ones wanting the discussion to be ended.Rileybobs wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:25 amI replied before you edited your post to add the final paragraph. I don’t care what my post smacks of to you. I definitely don’t want this thread to be locked, I don’t want any threads to be locked on here. I’m perfectly comfortable discussing this, and I’m just as comfortable for the bigots to show themselves up, although I am ashamed that I share my support of this club with these people. You’re very wide of the mark.
If you’re comfortable with the posts of Ringo etc on this thread then it says a lot more about you than me.
I like to know what people think whether I agree with it or not
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Can I invoke Godwins law here?fidelcastro wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:29 amOh they have a solution. It's one that's been tried before.
That ended really well, didn't it?
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You’re the only person on the thread that has mentioned ending the discussion and you’re the one that has effectively ended it. Get back on topic.
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If you like, but what do you think certain posters on here want to happen?
Sure, they want killing in the name of religion to stop, but how do you think they'd go about this if they were in charge?
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Folk on here who w@ank off to the dictionary definition of the word pogrom.
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Ringo's punctuation.
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I dont think I've even talked about the murder in Paris. And you retreating to bed suggests you don't want to talk about it either.
Irony indeed
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Please explain how that statement is an attempt at getting the discussion ended? If I wanted to end the discussion then surely I would complain to the moderators? You’re just not making sense.
And I told you explicitly why I compared the board to a gutter, but I note that you haven’t bothered to respond to that.
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Pretty sure people don't want another Nazi inspired genocide but hey ho, you went down that rabbit hole for some bizarre reason.fidelcastro wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:41 amIf you like, but what do you think certain posters on here want to happen?
Sure, they want killing in the name of religion to stop, but how do you think they'd go about this if they were in charge?
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In their hearts... that's exactly what they want.GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:49 amPretty sure people don't want another Nazi inspired genocide but hey ho, you went down that rabbit hole for some bizarre reason.
Of course, they'd see it as eliminating the vermin from our world.
Sound familiar?
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You said the board is a gutter. That's a red flag to anyone who moderates this this board without explaining what it is that makes the board a gutterRileybobs wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:48 amPlease explain how that statement is an attempt at getting the discussion ended? If I wanted to end the discussion then surely I would complain to the moderators? You’re just not making sense.
And I told you explicitly why I compared the board to a gutter, but I note that you haven’t bothered to respond to that.
You mentioned people being against footballers taking the knee? Does that make the message board a gutter in your opinion? That's the only thing you seem to be offended by. When I say offended too, I mean offended hence your reference to being a gutter