Dyche......is it time to go

[ClaretMov]

This squad was playing okay last season and finished 10th, all of a sudden it's unrecognisable, who's fault is it

Team......to old
Board.....not improving and standing still
Dyche......terrible tactics of hoof ball and only having a plan A that the opposition have finally work out

Is it one single problem or all of the above

[Burnley Ace]

Go on then ....... sack him! Who the feck do you think would:

Pretty much any manager who is not already managing in the Prem.

[Goodclaret]

Pretty much any manager who is not already managing in the Prem.

Ah, hadn't realised it was so easy. If you could give the club a ring and give them a list of all these managers ready to do such a better job than SD I'm sure they would be very grateful.

[SussexDon1inIreland]

As someone said here, go and support someone else

[Burnley Ace]

That’s not the question you asked. You asked who would want the job and if Dyche left the club would be inundated with managers wanting a chance at being in the Prem.

[Right_winger]

As someone said here, go and support someone else

Why? Because they don’t agree with your viewpoint?

[Burnley Ace]

Ah, hadn't realised it was so easy. If you could give the club a ring and give them a list of all these managers ready to do such a better job than SD I'm sure they would be very grateful.

That’s not the question you asked. You asked who would want the job and if Dyche left the club would be inundated with managers wanting a chance at being in the Prem.

[Blackburn_Claret]

Pretty much any manager who is not already managing in the Prem.

Someone who knows the club like Mike Duff, Graham Alexandra or Paul Cook or someone like Sol Campbell who's played at the highest level and will be able to attract better players. Wouldn't cost a lot to replace.
If there's a takeover we could look at someone like Ralf Rangnick, Leonardo Jardim or Viktor Goncharenko although it would be at a cost for him.

[Hapag Lloyd]

Dyche......terrible tactics of hoof ball and only having a plan A that the opposition have finally work out

Is this the same Dyche that you were saying should be named manager of the season just 4 months ago?

[Goodclaret]

That’s not the question you asked. You asked who would want the job and if Dyche left the club would be inundated with managers wanting a chance at being in the Prem.

Well, of course, there would be a long list wanting the job. I'd want the job but it doesn't mean I'd do better than SD. People are talking about getting rid of Dyche with no reasonable replacement - you'd be unbelievably lucky to get someone better to turn things around with the current situation. Dyche has proved he can do it so why not stick with guy who has more than earned that right to and has the knowledge of everything what Burnley FC are about.

[boatshed bill]

Sean Dyche probably should have walked at the end of last season. He hasn't covered himself in glory given some of his comments about the board.
If he wasn't satisfied with the backing he's received he really only had one possible course of action

[Goodclaret]

Someone who knows the club like Mike Duff, Graham Alexandra or Paul Cook or someone like Sol Campbell who's played at the highest level and will be able to attract better players. Wouldn't cost a lot to replace.
If there's a takeover we could look at someone like Ralf Rangnick, Leonardo Jardim or Viktor Goncharenko although it would be at a cost for him.

I'll ignore the second list you have given as the takeover is an unknown at the moment so we have no idea who we could possibly attract.

The first list contains no one who has proved themselves at this level and even more so taking over a club near the bottom of the league with such a small squad. There is a reason why they wouldn't cost a lot. They aren't Premier League managers.

[ewanrob]

In a word no, if that man is supported in the transfer market we will be a top 10 teams for the next decade and more. The mark of the man is that he is still here.

[Dyched]

Someone who knows the club like Mike Duff, Graham Alexandra or Paul Cook or someone like Sol Campbell who's played at the highest level and will be able to attract better players. Wouldn't cost a lot to replace.
If there's a takeover we could look at someone like Ralf Rangnick, Leonardo Jardim or Viktor Goncharenko although it would be at a cost for him.

You’ve missed Dwight Yorke off your list pal.

[tim_noone]

We have these spells every season. We need the ball to hit the back of the net early in a game for me, then I think our fortunes will change for the better , however I think Jay has to replace Barnes from the start.

Also if Dyche has been backed in the market I think a winger a right back and another centre mid would have made a huge difference . Unfortunately he didn’t get backed!

Lowton isn’t good enough anymore, the right back birth was one that needed strengthening this window as was the wing ahead of him and neither as we know got sorted

Fine margins...if his opportunist shot on goal had gone in hed have been a world beater...

[Woodleyclaret]

If Sean didn't want Wilson and Walcott hes clearly an excellent judge of talent

[Bosscat]

I would say to some on here...

"Be very careful what you wish for"

Yes Dyche has some failings but... He is a bloody good fit for Burnley FC.

[Elizabeth]

Mee comes back and makes an immediate improvement to the team.
Four strikers all fit and all proven PL goal scorers , Rodrigues on the verge of returning to the team after injury.
I think our form up to Christmas will be decided by the midfield balance and because of fitness doubts over Brady and Gudmundsson and Cork’s absence this is the challenge for Dyche.
Getting the best out of Brownhill and McNeill will make the difference for me.
As for the suggestion Dyche’s position should be questioned. Not worth commenting on.

[ClaretMov]

Is this the same Dyche that you were saying should be named manager of the season just 4 months ago?

That's it you keep living in the past and never look forward

[TVC15]

Can we bring back the Brexit thread please !

[Goodclaret]

That's it you keep living in the past and never look forward

Living in the past? 4 months? He's had 7 PL games this season and now you think he should be potted after being (potentially) manager of the year for last season. That's how silly your posts are and why someone brought up your view on last season's achievements.

[ClaretMov]

Can we bring back the Brexit thread please !

[ClaretMov]

Living in the past? 4 months? He's had 7 PL games this season and now you think he should be potted after being (potentially) manager of the year for last season. That's how silly your posts are and why someone brought up your view on last season's achievements.

Okay if not after 7 games.....HOW MANY Because it won't get any better and before you know it its February and we have less than 20 points on the board

[taio]

Clubs like ours are always going to have difficult periods in the Premier League because we are over achieving being in it, and it's only a matter of time before we go down. Some people have wanted Dyche sacked several times over because they are weak and fickle. Had they have had their wish we wouldn't have seen our most successful period for decades. Dyche deserves loyalty and thankfully most supporters recognise that.

[ClaretMov]

"weak and fickle"

[dpinsussex]

I believe we are missing Jeff Hendrick

[Rileybobs]

"weak and fickle"

He’s not wrong.

[Goodclaret]

Okay if not after 7 games.....HOW MANY Because it won't get any better and before you know it its February and we have less than 20 points on the board

Again, I'll go back to what Dyche did - after Europe we had 12 points from 18 or 19 games and he still kept us up. How can you keep not trusting him when he has consistently delivered for 8 years? I'm sorry if I keep going on defending SD but I can't get my head round people bashing him when he has done so bloody well for us. I honestly think sacking Dyche now really would ensure this season ends in relegation. Even if a "great new manager" came in now he has two months before he can sign anyone so you'd honestly believe they could do better than Dyche?

[Spijed]

Okay if not after 7 games.....HOW MANY Because it won't get any better and before you know it its February and we have less than 20 points on the board

Well, we only had 12 points after 19 matches two seasons ago, but survived comfortably.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Well, we only had 12 points after 19 matches two seasons ago, but survived comfortably.

Exactly a long way to go. We’ve been on these runs before hopefully a change in a few changes will bring us the elusive win against Palace.

[buzzclarets79]

Now is not the time to make a knee jerk reaction over what has been a very poor start to the season. I should say from the start that I've never really been fond of the tactics under SD but you can't deny as a manager what he has done for Burnley FC over the 8 years, some fantastic achievements that would take far too long to list on here if we take everything into account.
Think SD has earned some time to turn this around, I don't think there will be cash in Jan to spend, no matter what happens with the take over, think it's pretty clear that the impact of Covid-19 has hit us hard, I'm not sure why anyone thinks we've millions in the bank to spend on players but financially we are still sound and with a "hopefully" a great academy to produce our own players in years to come, this is again one of the SD achievements.

Out of respect for what SD has done for Burnley give him time. If he takes us down, it's not the end of the world.

[Spijed]

Wonder how many on here wanted rid of SD after this result in 2013 when we lost 1-0 at home to Hull?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/21651760

[Zlatan]

Pretty much any manager who is not already managing in the Prem.

Name them. And make sure you include those who are able to get the most out of this squad and have a chance of keeping us in the top flight.

If you can’t, be quiet eh.

[Walkerpool]

Dyches constant whinging the end of last season,pre season , and beginning of this season has affected the whole club

I said exactly the same before the season started

[Goodclaret]

I said exactly the same before the season started

I know. How dare Dyche say "I think I need some new players who will improve our team so we can be more successful"?

Despicable behaviour from our manager.

[boatshed bill]

I know. How dare Dyche say "I think I need some new players who will improve our team so we can be more successful"?

Despicable behaviour from our manager.

He could have kept his thoughts to himself and discussed the situation privately with the chairman.
I honestly believe that his recent conduct is devaluing all the good work he's done.

[Goodclaret]

He could have kept his thoughts to himself and discussed the situation privately with the chairman.
I honestly believe that his recent conduct is devaluing all the good work he's done.

That's fair enough and I respect your opinion but do you not think he saw what position we were going to end in (and we have) so he thought he'd try and put pressure on the board. Ok, he could have done that privately but that could have given the impression it was his decision not to sign players, not the boards. He was, rightly so, protecting his corner. Can this really undo all the good work he's done for us? Perhaps I score his positives much higher than his negatives.

[boatshed bill]

That's fair enough and I respect your opinion but do you not think he saw what position we were going to end in (and we have) so he thought he'd try and put pressure on the board. Ok, he could have done that privately but that could have given the impression it was his decision not to sign players, not the boards. He was, rightly so, protecting his corner. Can this really undo all the good work he's done for us? Perhaps I score his positives much higher than his negatives.

I didn't say that it was "undoing" all the good he has done.

[claret54]

Now is the time for all fans to get behind the team and Manager. We know we can get out of this. We've got a good track record over eight years. Back the team back the Manager.
We don't need change we need to build on what we have.
Yes it would have been better if we had had a better attacking performance against Brighton. But it's a good clean sheet.
Time for fans to be counted stand up and get behind the Manager and the team.

[tiger76]

Christ on a bike, we have a relatively poor start to the season, and some posters want rid of a manger who's kept us in the PL for 5 years and counting, plus delivering 2 top 10 finishes during that time, the reason we've prospered is because the board haven't had knee jerk reactions to our poor runs, even when we suffered relegation the board stuck with SD, and they were rewarded with an instant return, no things clearly aren't good ATM, but potting SD is madness, and I still don't see anybody offering any viable alternatives that could perform a better job within our budget than what SD has done.

[Bosscat]

Christ on a bike, we have a relatively poor start to the season, and some posters want rid of a manger who's kept us in the PL for 5 years and counting, plus delivering 2 top 10 finishes during that time, the reason we've prospered is because the board haven't had knee jerk reactions to our poor runs, even when we suffered relegation the board stuck with SD, and they were rewarded with an instant return, no things clearly aren't good ATM, but potting SD is madness, and I still don't see anybody offering any viable alternatives that could perform a better job within our budget than what SD has done.

Post of the thread so far.....

[boatshed bill]

Christ on a bike, we have a relatively poor start to the season, and some posters want rid of a manger who's kept us in the PL for 5 years and counting, plus delivering 2 top 10 finishes during that time, the reason we've prospered is because the board haven't had knee jerk reactions to our poor runs, even when we suffered relegation the board stuck with SD, and they were rewarded with an instant return, no things clearly aren't good ATM, but potting SD is madness, and I still don't see anybody offering any viable alternatives that could perform a better job within our budget than what SD has done.

I certainly don't think he should be sacked.
But if, as he seems to be saying, he's not happy with the chairman then the decent thing is to resign, surely?

[scouseclaret]

Can’t be bothered to read through this but why do we have to have these threads every time we go through a crisis?

History suggests we always come through them, so on that basis no, it isn’t.

[Jakubclaret]

With regards to the question - not yet as things aren’t perfect but there are far from toxic & unfinished business still remains, it’s just a rough trot at the moment coupled with a woeful window, things are bound to get better there always do eventually, just a question of when.

[Blackburn_Claret]

Dyche is the problem not garlick

[claret54]

This squad was playing okay last season and finished 10th, all of a sudden it's unrecognisable, who's fault is it

Team......to old
Board.....not improving and standing still
Dyche......terrible tactics of hoof ball and only having a plan A that the opposition have finally work out

Is it one single problem or all of the above

The terrible tactics of hoof ball have been extremely successful for us over 5 years.
What's the point of passing the ball around like Brighton if you create very few chances.
OK if you have the players Man City have.
But Dyche had found a way of getting success with his tactics and I've grown to enjoy the style of play . It's different and effective.

[Goodclaret]

Dyche is the problem not garlick

Yeah. Who the hell would want a manager that has only given what Dyche has given us? FFS. I despair. Maybe there is a team closer to you which you'd be happier following?

[Burnley Ace]

Name them. And make sure you include those who are able to get the most out of this squad and have a chance of keeping us in the top flight.

If you can’t, be quiet eh.

Again not the question. Name them - don’t be childish. Do you really think that a manager would turn down the opportunity to manage in the Premiership?

[Zlatan]

Again not the question. Name them - don’t be childish. Do you really think that a manager would turn down the opportunity to manage in the Premiership?

Yes, I do think any manager who has any brains would know that following Dyche at Burnley would be a poison chalice. It’s not childish to ask for you to provide the names of who you think would be able to follow Dyche at Burnley right now, it’s highlighting that you already know that there aren’t any - and you know you can’t name them for that reason.

And if it isn’t the question - what the hell was the question?

[Bosscat]

Dyche is the problem not garlick

Grow up