January Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

[Newcastleclaret93]

Chairman admitted he had put "more bidS" in for players Friday, "however that doesnt always mean theyll get accepted"

Lets hope that either they are being considered or if not, at least negotiable.

It would take a very brave or silly man to be very open, make promises and then fail to deliver those promises within 30 days of arriving.
I think 2 will arrive tomorrow, however only possibly 1 might go out now.

Think a lot of us will be disappointed tomorrow.

[Steve1956]

Think a lot of us will be disappointed tomorrow.

I dont think....I know I will

[MACCA]

Think a lot of us will be disappointed tomorrow.

Why are season ticket prices not being frozen?

If you mean regards incomings, theres always the next window, it's worked since 2017.

[Wellsy1882]

Like i said before. There will be no signings

[Bigvince]

My respect for the club for not paying over the odds ( for a right back we don’t urgently need ) but if we need a player in this window, I do feel we are gonna have to pay over the odds!

[Bigvince]

Like i said before. There will be no signings

I hope you’re wrong! But I hear what you’re saying !

[Wokingclaret]

I hope you’re wrong! But I hear what you’re saying !

I think he is right

[Nonayforever]

It wouldn't surprise me if Kenny has gone out on loan so that we can monitor his performance before agreeing to pay Everton's valuation.
He wouldn't get any game time this season if we had bought him.

[Bigvince]

I think he is right

If he is, it’ll be out of character!

[boatshed bill]

Well at least this has given Boatshed the chance to tell us all again that he thinks we have no money.

Showe me the evidence that we have money and I will hold my hand up to say I am totally wrong.

[Newcastleclaret93]

It wouldn't surprise me if Kenny has gone out on loan so that we can monitor his performance before agreeing to pay Everton's valuation.
He wouldn't get any game time this season if we had bought him.

If that’s the case you have really got to wonder why it has taken 30 days for the club to figure out he wouldn’t get any game time this season.

[taio]

I've suddenly become more confident we will sign someone tomorrow

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Going to be some posters with a lot of spare time on their hands after tomorrow!

[NewClaret]

He wouldn't get any game time this season if we had bought him.

Totally agree on this point.

Would need time to get Dyche fit and completely unfair if he displaced Lowts in current form.

Not at all saying that RB shouldn’t be an area we look to strengthen, but Kenny wouldn’t have played much assuming Lowts stays fit.

[KRBFC]

Ben Davies gone to Liverpool-2mill

Thats it?

[MACCA]

Thats it?

And a player going other way on loan, and no doubt a friendly.

Theyd agreed 2.5 with celtic so something extra will happen somewhere, unless it was all cash upfront straight away.

[fatboy47]

Showe me the evidence that we have money and I will hold my hand up to say I am totally wrong.

We have money. About minus £80m as far as I can work out.

[MACCA]

It wouldn't surprise me if Kenny has gone out on loan so that we can monitor his performance before agreeing to pay Everton's valuation.
He wouldn't get any game time this season if we had bought him.

But that can work other way, if he has a blinder
A. Fee could go up
B. More sides interested
C. Everton decide to keep him

Something doesnt add up, maybe weve pulled out to peruse other targets, makes no sense chasing him for a few months, waiting 28 days to faff about with a bid for him to go elsewhere.

We get told we do our deals late as others need to fall into place first, or we pick up scraps.
This signing there was no need to beat off competition, wait for their club to replace first, or wait for the scraps.

Seems very odd, I think we have shifted targets or priorities

[TheFamilyCat]

This player that’s been mentioned who is equally as good for less money scenario, I’m not sure if people realise the window shuts tomorrow so even if somebody was lined up it’d be unlikely to be completed, you need to have your ducks in a row anything else disappointment is inevitable, when managerial vacancies become available & people joke dyche to so & so, 1 day it won’t be a joke.

The window does shut tomorrow but we have two RBs so absolutely no pressure to sign one in this window.

[Wellsy1882]

They were never going to sign anybody this month even with new owners

Hopefully hes gets the backing in june

[DomBFC1882]

The window does shut tomorrow but we have two RBs so absolutely no pressure to sign one in this window.

So why are we bidding for one then?

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

So why are we bidding for one then?

I’d imagine because Bardsley will be leaving this summer. As above it’s not a priority.

[TheFamilyCat]

I’d imagine because Bardsley will be leaving this summer. As above it’s not a priority.

Exactly. If we can get one in now fair enough, no drama if not.

Not forgetting that Lowton has just signed a new deal which may have affected our thinking regarding RB.

[TsarBomba]

If we have bid for Kenny, and were quoted £9M, then it makes absolute sense to pull out.

He’s only gone on loan, so the option will be there again in the Summer should we want to pursue it.

With what little funds we have, spending on £9M on a third RB when we have other positions to priority, makes no sense.

I’m not sure what the issue is here, tbh.

[arise_sir_charge]

Showe me the evidence that we have money and I will hold my hand up to say I am totally wrong.

Nah, you show me the evidence that we don’t.

[NewClaret]

If we have bid for Kenny, and were quoted £9M, then it makes absolute sense to pull out.

I’d have been furious if we’d spent £9m on a third right back whilst the other two are fit and in form.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Nah, you show me the evidence that we don’t.

To be fair just pick up any national newspaper that discussed the takeover. They practically all mention that the new owners have taken out a loan worth approx 70m to buy the club.

[boatshed bill]

Nah, you show me the evidence that we don’t.

No need.

[Mala591]

Are the current squad good enough to stay up? - very probably - so no signings tomorrow isn’t the end of the world.

In summer we must find a way to sign younger players with more technical quality. Pace and Dyche need to agree a strategy on how to do this.

[arise_sir_charge]

To be fair just pick up any national newspaper that discussed the takeover. They practically all mention that the new owners have taken out a loan worth approx 70m to buy the club.

So does that immediately mean we have no money?

If so why have you posted 100 plus times in this thread talking about transfers?

The facts as I see them are, Alan Pace has said they will back the manager with funds, Dyche has mentioned possibilities and the press have reported we’ve bid for players.

So on that basis, I’d suggest the evidence is that we do have money to spend.

[tiger76]

Are the current squad good enough to stay up? - very probably - so no signings tomorrow isn’t the end of the world.

In summer we must find a way to sign younger players with more technical quality. Pace and Dyche need to agree a strategy on how to do this.

It isn't the end of the world, however all the noises from Pace were that we would do business this window, so if we don't get anybody in there may be some disappointment.

Having said that I'd rather we waited until the summer instead of just throwing the cash about on the likes of Kenny, it's hardly a priority area just now when we have Bards and Lowts available.

Totally agree on the young players and technical ability, that's what will allow us to move up a level, and really compete in this league.

[NewClaret]

So on that basis, I’d suggest the evidence is that we do have money to spend.

At least £7.5m according to Nixon. Just not on Kenny. Clearly not a priority position this window.

[rob63]

In other news Kenny is signing for Celtic

Can't see Celtic paying the £10m that Everton were supposed to be asking for him tbh

[Boss Hogg]

"drama queenery". Or - a concern that the best manager we've arguably ever had is being failed, again. Believe or not, at some point we will have to buy new players and we're making it a bigger and bigger job every window that goes by.

Ignore the troll. I do and don’t see the posts unless they are quoted. The constant looking for arguments is very similar to I Turtle and just spoils good threads.

[rob63]

Going to be some posters with a lot of spare time on their hands after tomorrow!

They'll need a good month posting their complaints first

[daveisaclaret]

Not particularly arsed either way about Kenny but if whoever is responsible for these things thinks a 23 year old from Everton who by all accounts had a good season in the Bundesliga last year is good enough for Burnley to sign but not worth £9 million then I'm very concerned because that strongly suggests they're entirely unaware of how much transfers cost.

[superdimitri]

As a user of the message board, even from the ClaretsMad golden era, I can’t say I’m fan of the single transfer window threads.

I find I have to scroll through the constant moaning, bickering and winging just read what Alan Nixon said.

Am I the only one who starts at the bottom then scrolls up about a quarter of a page before clicking back?

It's a lot easier in a single thread. You can use the search. If you're looking for what Nixon said search for his name. Likewise you can look him up on Twitter because that's where his stories always appear.

A bunch of different topics all discussing the same thing with be a complete nightmare. It's bad enough as it is with all the duplicate threads.

[JohnMac]

The transfer discussions on here remind me of Internet Poker for Play Money. People have a dabble and think they are proficient at the game despite never having faced an opponent at a table. Play money is great but it isn't real.

People play Fantasy Football, most very badly and I hasten to include myself. It's great but again it isn't real.

The Football Club have to operate in the real world and I often wonder if some fans really do appreciate the difference between fantasy and reality.

Most people struggle financially, it's true, it's reality, real life.

Yet football talk turns them into Elon Musk characters advocating splashing millions of pounds like it's confetti or Monopoly money.

If we haven't signed a Centre Back, Right Back, Left Back, Right Winger or Striker by 11pm tonight, that's reality.

[Vegas Claret]

The transfer discussions on here remind me of Internet Poker for Play Money. People have a dabble and think they are proficient at the game despite never having faced an opponent at a table. Play money is great but it isn't real.

People play Fantasy Football, most very badly and I hasten to include myself. It's great but again it isn't real.

The Football Club have to operate in the real world and I often wonder if some fans really do appreciate the difference between fantasy and reality.

Most people struggle financially, it's true, it's reality, real life.

Yet football talk turns them into Elon Musk characters advocating splashing millions of pounds like it's confetti or Monopoly money.

If we haven't signed a Centre Back, Right Back, Left Back, Right Winger or Striker by 11pm tonight, that's reality.

Pace mentions something along those lines in the latest video

[Awayfromburnley]

We're on a reasonable run, with few injuries currently. That is to be celebrated.

Just several weeks ago it was the total opposite and additions were deemed essential.

Why are they no longer essential? A couple of suspensions and injuries and we are back to playing players out of position.

We are gambling with our future by not making further additions to the squad, it's short sighted and bloody frustrating.

[SGr]

Southampton looking to do a deal for Josh King in part exchange for Shane Long

https://twitter.com/david_ornstein/stat ... 95425?s=21

[SkiptonClaret]

Southampton looking to do a deal for Josh King in part exchange for Shane Long

https://twitter.com/david_ornstein/stat ... 95425?s=21

Shane Long is available ? I demand to know why we haven’t made an offer. Perfect fit for us.

[kaptin1]

Can't see Celtic paying the £10m that Everton were supposed to be asking for him tbh

Especially when they are not going to be in the Champions League next year

[Burnley1989]

The transfer discussions on here remind me of Internet Poker for Play Money. People have a dabble and think they are proficient at the game despite never having faced an opponent at a table. Play money is great but it isn't real.

People play Fantasy Football, most very badly and I hasten to include myself. It's great but again it isn't real.

The Football Club have to operate in the real world and I often wonder if some fans really do appreciate the difference between fantasy and reality.

Most people struggle financially, it's true, it's reality, real life.

Yet football talk turns them into Elon Musk characters advocating splashing millions of pounds like it's confetti or Monopoly money.

If we haven't signed a Centre Back, Right Back, Left Back, Right Winger or Striker by 11pm tonight, that's reality.

very true

[claretonthecoast1882]

Roll on 11pm.

Although those showing signs they aren't going to be able to cope today, I wish you well and get some fresh air.

[Firthy]

If SD says any signings are improbable then it's 99% certain we won't be signing anyone this window. We just have to hope for a fair wind for the rest of the season and that we don't get too many injuries. We are good enough to stay up but as we have seen recently with Sheff Utd and Brighton beating Man U and Spurs, we can't depend on other teams losing.

Let's concentrate on Ralph's STB and wait for the suggested overhaul in the summer (fingers crossed)

[ksrclaret]

Come on Burnley. Try and be active. Try and stretch those finances. Try and affect the market. Legs hearts minds xoxo

[Grumps]

If SD says any signings are improbable then it's 99% certain we won't be signing anyone this window. We just have to hope for a fair wind for the rest of the season and that we don't get too many injuries. We are good enough to stay up but as we have seen recently with Sheff Utd and Brighton beating Man U and Spurs, we can't depend on other teams losing.

Let's concentrate on Ralph's STB and wait for the suggested overhaul in the summer (fingers crossed)

We may not make any signings, but don't hang your hat on dyches comments in a interview, he's not known for being 100% truthful of things related to transfers, injuries etc.

[Lancasterclaret]

So we haven't got a 4th choice centre half and a 3rd choice right back because we wouldn't pay £10 million and £9 million?

And even though we've bid for these players, we haven't got any money?

Never change lads, never change

[Wile E Coyote]

if after a takeover, and with a struggling team with injured players a constant concern, we fail to strengthen the first team squad, then its slightly pointless all round.