Dyche sending a message?

[BurnleyFC]

He’s biting off his nose to spite his own face.

He’ll never get a ‘bigger’ job due to his utter contempt for cup competitions. It’ll probably cost him an opportunity of ever managing the national side too.

[DomBFC1882]

The only message that Dyche sent tonight was that he didn’t give a **** about making it through to the QF of the FA Cup. And to be honest, considering our relatively comfortable league position it’s left me feeling really cheesed off. Why didn’t we just throw the third round?

Wow I never thought I'd see you like this Riley but fair play to you . Ridiculous all round. We should have just lost on penalties to MK Dons if we weren't going to take it seriously in the later rounds

[Hedontplayforyou]

Dyche has worked wonders at our club, there’s been no backing transfer wise , tonight showed or lack of depth to rotate etc. Give him the tools to do the job. We haven’t strengthened now in multiple windows - this was bound to be the outcome

[gandhisflipflop]

Because they don't.

Oh well, my mistake. You must have access to ALKs financing.

[ksrclaret]

Oh well, my mistake. You must have access to ALKs financing.

No worries. Don't sweat it.

[boatshed bill]

I don’t need to prove anything. These guys have taken over, been here a month and had 1 transfer window in the middle of a lockdown. They need to be given a chance and there is zero evidence to suggest that they have no money. Incidentally I read somewhere that we actually made the highest bid of the window.

Well, apart from the use of the club's cash in hand to buy in, no you are right.

[houseboy]

Well, well, well. Why was I not overly surprised when I saw the team. What does Dyche actually want? I don’t like to criticise him but why oh why, with a quarter final place at stake, does he just play a side like that against one of the best teams in the Championship? We are not, barring a drop in form of biblical proportions, going to be relegated, so the only thing we have got to look forward he tosses away like a used condom. I want Dyche to stay but FFS I wish he would actually CARE about a cup run. The man is bloody infuriating.

[agreenwood]

The original question has been answered emphatically.

I think the idea that Dyche is completely detached from the clubs approach to transfers is also off the mark. Our narrow focus is also becoming a major issue.

[BennyD]

We need 9 points out of the next 3 games, so fielding a second string team tonight was the right thing to do. If we got millions from a cup run then fair enough but we don’t. Football is a business, and the business model is to remain in the Prem. Maybe one day we will have the resources to chase silverware.

[joey13]

I don’t need to prove anything. These guys have taken over, been here a month and had 1 transfer window in the middle of a lockdown. They need to be given a chance and there is zero evidence to suggest that they have no money. Incidentally I read somewhere that we actually made the highest bid of the window.

Hang on I thought all media speculation was rubbish

[Colburn_Claret]

I think the only message he's made tonight is to warn 44 clubs that he isn't good enough, he certainly didn't do his CV any favours.
Anymore performances like that and I wouldn't give him a penny to spend.

How do you coach players to be unable to pass a ball, because as a collective we have taken giant leaps backwards. This isn't a player out of form, it's a whole bloody club that is succumbing to mediocrity.

[taio]

We need 9 points out of the next 3 games, so fielding a second string team tonight was the right thing to do. If we got millions from a cup run then fair enough but we don’t. Football is a business, and the business model is to remain in the Prem. Maybe one day we will have the resources to chase silverware.

What a sad state of affairs if it all comes down to this.

[joey13]

We need 9 points out of the next 3 games, so fielding a second string team tonight was the right thing to do. If we got millions from a cup run then fair enough but we don’t. Football is a business, and the business model is to remain in the Prem. Maybe one day we will have the resources to chase silverware.

We lost to Bournemouth

[ClaretLoup]

Exciting times.

[DomBFC1882]

Exciting times.

I was waiting for that from someone

[Newcastleclaret93]

I don’t need to prove anything. These guys have taken over, been here a month and had 1 transfer window in the middle of a lockdown. They need to be given a chance and there is zero evidence to suggest that they have no money. Incidentally I read somewhere that we actually made the highest bid of the window.

Just saying you can’t come at people for saying the owners have no money, then provide no evidence in contrary. All sources and speculation state that they have no finance, fans are very much in there right to complain about that.

[Mala591]

The most important statistic for Dyche is that the following players didn’t get injured tonight

Pope
Lowton
Tarks
Mee
Pieters
JBG
Westwood
Cork
McNeil
Vydra
Wood
Barnes

[claretgimmer]

He will be taking over Alladyces mantle when Sam gets to old, you`ll win FA with me as manager but I`ll keep you up for the price of a pint.

[Spijed]

The most important statistic for Dyche is that the following players didn’t get injured tonight

Pope
Lowton
Tarks
Mee
Pieters
JBG
Westwood
Cork
McNeil
Vydra
Wood
Barnes

I thought Cork was out injured tonight?

[evensteadiereddie]

I think the only message he's made tonight is to warn 44 clubs that he isn't good enough, he certainly didn't do his CV any favours.
Anymore performances like that and I wouldn't give him a penny to spend.

How do you coach players to be unable to pass a ball, because as a collective we have taken giant leaps backwards. This isn't a player out of form, it's a whole bloody club that is succumbing to mediocrity.

The whole club ? Off the evidence of a lousy performance from a group of fringe players ?
Look at the games coming up - are you really suggesting that risking absolutely key players is worth it ? The stand-in players were given their chance to perform on a reasonably big stage and they blew it. Dyche had to pick them, had to rely on them and they weren't up to it individually or collectively.

[Hedontplayforyou]

We haven’t done too badly since we lost to Lincoln so just call down

[Newcastleclaret93]

This is why I think Dyche was sending a message.

The owners have come out and said how important the tournament is etc....

Dyche has games in round 3-4 where he fields strong starting elevens.

We then have a transfer window where we sign no one at all.

Next round of the cup he effectively throws the game by fielding a shocking line up.

[CnBtruntru]

He's been doing it since he took over as manager in every cup game, surprised we've actually won a cup game.

[claretgimmer]

He will be taking over Alladyces mantle when Sam gets to old, you`ll win FA with me as manager but I`ll keep you up for the price of a pint.

[jrgbfc]

That was shocking tonight. I've seen Sunday league teams that have been out all night turn up with a better approach to games. That team selection was basically throwing the game. Unacceptable for a Premier league club.

[boatshed bill]

He will be taking over Alladyces mantle when Sam gets to old, you`ll win FA with me as manager but I`ll keep you up for the price of a pint.

The difference being that Allardyce has proved on several occasions to be capable of turning round the performance of some very poor teams.

[Marty Dobson]

Dyche and the FA Cup. Farce repeated as farce.

[Spijed]

It's always going to be a problem for a club like ours getting back up players who are nearly as good as the first team ones to sit on the bench, especially if they cost money.

There is always going to be a big gap in that quality. Maybe we should have got Dawson, for example, but we can't plug the gaps everywhere.

[Newcastleclaret93]

It's always going to be a problem for a club like ours getting back up players who are nearly as good as the first team ones to sit on the bench, especially if they cost money.

There is always going to be a big gap in that quality. Maybe we should have got Dawson, for example, but we can't plug the gaps everywhere.

Agree with playing weakend team early on. But at this point you have to play a decent team

[ksrclaret]

It's always going to be a problem for a club like ours getting back up players who are nearly as good as the first team ones to sit on the bench, especially if they cost money.

There is always going to be a big gap in that quality. Maybe we should have got Dawson, for example, but we can't plug the gaps everywhere.

You're right. Much better to not plug any gaps and not recruit anybody than try and do what we can.

[BennyD]

What a sad state of affairs if it all comes down to this.

If you haven’t noticed, it already has.

[BennyD]

We lost to Bournemouth

Yes, I get that. What’s your point?

[gandhisflipflop]

Hang on I thought all media speculation was rubbish

I read that on here.

[boatshed bill]

To be honest, I'm not sure about "sending out messages".
That's his squad.
The only message he should be sending out is one to confirm that he's working flat out to try keep all those players up to standard.

[gandhisflipflop]

Just saying you can’t come at people for saying the owners have no money, then provide no evidence in contrary. All sources and speculation state that they have no finance, fans are very much in there right to complain about that.

What sources? All it is is speculation.

[Murger]

I'm not bothered about tonight because it went exactly how I thought it would. Dyche doesn't give a rats ass about the cup.

[Claret Toni]

Two messages, I think:

1. The Cup doesn't matter
2. This is the strength of the squad.

Simples.

[Newcastleclaret93]

What sources? All it is is speculation.

The numerous media sources?

[Right_winger]

Dyche has bo ambition.

The only way he will get a top job is to win a cup. Some silverware.
He has kept us up plenty of times and nobody has cone anywhere near for him.

He won’t get a top job because he has glaring deficiencies. What has he actually won in all his years as manager? The championship title, yet some on here think he is better than Mourinho and Benitez.. he isn’t fit to wear their jackets.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

What sources? All it is is speculation.

Just give it up.

They struggle with this stuff on a normal day, but after an embarrassing defeat like that you're not going to get any straight answers.

They want facts from us but will believe anything printed by the media.

Just let it go for a bit, maybe a couple of years and let them have their little rants

[GodIsADeeJay81]

He won’t get a top job because he has glaring deficiencies. What has he actually won in all his years as manager? The championship title, yet some on here think he is better than Mourinho and Benitez.. he isn’t fit to wear their jackets.

He's won as much as Poch and he continues to get top jobs because he plays pretty and ineffective football.

The only reason he will win anything in France is down to a lack of real competition.

[BennyD]

Look at it this way; what if we fielded a full strength team and we got a couple of injuries and got walloped by Palace at the weekend. What would you nay sayers be saying then? 3 points is more important than being knocked out in the next round? If we play a full strength team and lose to Palace, then fair enough we aren’t good enough but the league is far more important than a cup run. SD is absolutely correct in fielding a weakened team.

[boatshed bill]

Look at it this way; what if we fielded a full strength team and we got a couple of injuries and got walloped by Palace at the weekend. What would you nay sayers be saying then? 3 points is more important than being knocked out in the next round? If we play a full strength team and lose to Palace, then fair enough we aren’t good enough but the league is far more important than a cup run. SD is absolutely correct in fielding a weakened team.

So is he right, or is he (as some will assert) sending out a message?

[Bordeauxclaret]

We couldn’t even be arsed to learn the rules, I think that sums up our attitude to the cup.

[BennyD]

So is he right, or is he (as some will assert) sending out a message?

He’s using the limited assets at his disposal and if a message is seen and understood by the owners, then fair enough. I’d be very p!ssed off if he started a full strength side tonight and had to field a depleted, knackered squad at the weekend.

[Cubanclaret]

Very little acknowledgment of an incredibly hectic fixture schedule (much more than a normal season due to starting in September) and an injury list of Brownhill, Cork, Brady, Pieters, Wood (with Barnes only just coming back).
If we’d had a fitter squad he’d have played a stronger team. There’s a small squad to manage around a lot of games. Only a few weeks ago a similar side took Fulham apart. They disappointed, and none more so than the senior players you’d have hoped would pull us through.
And we were up against a team with plenty Premier League pedigree. Cups without fans are a bit of a waste of energy. I’m not too fussed.

[Colburn_Claret]

The whole club ? Off the evidence of a lousy performance from a group of fringe players ?
Look at the games coming up - are you really suggesting that risking absolutely key players is worth it ? The stand-in players were given their chance to perform on a reasonably big stage and they blew it. Dyche had to pick them, had to rely on them and they weren't up to it individually or collectively.

Our performances over the last year, but particularly this season have been awful.
We've had some great results, and defended like heroes, but our game going forward has been awful.
The biggest problem we have going forward is the passing is terrible, no other team in the premiership, or the championship for that matter, give the ball away with loose passes, like we do. Not Fulham, not WBA, not Sheff U.
Any player can have an off day, but Dwight has one good game in 6.
Brady defends well but crosses into the box, he hasn't even have one good game all season.
JBG instead of going down the line for the ball over the top, ALWAYS runs back toward the halfway line to collect, and loses any momentum, so he hardly ever gets into a position to make a decent cross. When he does they are as aimless as the rest of the team.
Westy is still our biggest threat from corners, but from open play, what happened to the through balls he used to play. When was the last time he set up a chance with a perfectly weighted, perfectly lined pass.
Lowts was so good at overlapping who was in front of him to take the ball and ping in a cross. He's done it once this season against Brighton.
Charlie is defending fine, but he was well known at Leeds for doing the same as Lowts on the other wing, overlapping, crossing and taking on shots from distance. He's been missing this season. Pieters has got into the box more in the last 2 games than Charlie has all season.
I'm sick of seeing crosses that hit the first man, or fly 6 feet over the heads of our strikers.
I'm sick of seeing crosses floated in so gently, that the keeper could make himself a brew before collecting it.
I'm sick of seeing players take the easy option of turning back and playing the ball backwards.
It isn't an individual, that would be easy to solve, you just replace them, but when so many players, are playing so poorly/negatively at the same time, questions should be asked.
I don't mind that we rested players, I don't mind that we have bigger games in the league to face, I would expect any team we put out to be able to play better than that tonight. AND tonight was just a reflection, the extremest reflection I hope, of how poor our football has been this season.
Dyche isn't earning his coin, or any favours, if he doesn't sort it out.

[Devils_Advocate]

Look at it this way; what if we fielded a full strength team and we got a couple of injuries and got walloped by Palace at the weekend. What would you nay sayers be saying then? 3 points is more important than being knocked out in the next round? If we play a full strength team and lose to Palace, then fair enough we aren’t good enough but the league is far more important than a cup run. SD is absolutely correct in fielding a weakened team.

Given the current table Id have definitely took beating Bournemouth over Palace. You seem to be a bit of a nervous nelly if you think we need 9 pts in the next 3 games and are in danger of being caught up by the bottom 3

Show a bit of courage you soft arse cos we are more than capable of having a go at beating Bournemouth and staying up comfortably at the same time

[Hedontplayforyou]

Dyche is brilliant for us, and I still think, that if we get some new blood in this summer, providing we stay up of course , that it won’t be as turgid as some are making out, I agree that tonight’s was awful by the way.

I’ll go back to the second half against Brighton again, if we can adopt this style of play more often then I’d be more than happy with that, however we need better players to execute this strategy. Upgrades on Barnes, JBG, Lowton, are all necessities along with another 1 if not 2 centre halves of Tarky leaves.

We can play a bit , but we need to be effective more than attractive at this moment in time , and I’ll take that if it means safety this season - then move on , recruit, adapt, improve and hopefully have a better start next season - where fingers crossed we will be able to attend the games.

I 100% believe a lot of frustration is being taken out on the football club by people because they are not used to this way of life at the moment, nor should we be, we all love BFC and I myself have been F’ing and jeffing at the TV watching us in lockdown , it’s hard, but it’s not forever!

BFC is forever for most of us - UTC

[houseboy]

We need 9 points out of the next 3 games, so fielding a second string team tonight was the right thing to do. If we got millions from a cup run then fair enough but we don’t. Football is a business, and the business model is to remain in the Prem. Maybe one day we will have the resources to chase silverware.

Why do people keep banging on about ‘staying up’? There is virtually zero chance of our relegation. We would have to drop through the floor formwise whilst the dross below us would have to do what they haven’t all season. To be honest 2 wins against Fulham would just about do it. Our points per game for the second half of the season only needs to mirror the first half and we were woeful for the first 8 games.
So that begs the question many are asking. If we are reasonably placed (and we are) why does Dyche throw away the only thing we have to cheer us up in these dark times? In the end that’s all it comes down to...why?