Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

[Belial]

We need a wide right player to feed our strikers in the mode of Wade Elliot or Super Glen someone who can beat a man and deliver quality balls in

I wonder where Ross Wallace is these days

[randomclaret2]

I wonder where Ross Wallace is these days

Isnt he a coach in our academy ? Could still do a job, knows the club, fills a spot, kept himself fit...etc., etc.

[Belgianclaret]

Big downgrade on Ings at this stage, no doubt about it.

Perfect move for him though. Will get good game time there.

Actually, think he could have done a good job for us

[NewClaret]

Actually, think he could have done a good job for us

Agree with that, but still a downgrade on Ings (albeit less injury prone).

I’d have liked him but also think Vydra has earned the right to a full season in the first team.

[kentonclaret]

I sense this morning that transfers are starting to really get going in the PL, with a number of clubs signing or close to. Hopefully it will trigger activity for ourselves

It's the hope that kills you

[s6t9a2f3f]

We need a wide right player to feed our strikers in the mode of Wade Elliot or Super Glen someone who can beat a man and deliver quality balls in

WOW be fantastic, lets go for it team for saturday

pope


trip steve davies (sold tarks for 20m) mee taylor

Defour


little blake deary eyres



ings


SUBS - MCNEILL - AUSTIN - GRAY - KEANE - DOBSON - ELLIOT - BARTON - HEATON - KINDON - COX
Talk about some options off the bench !!!!!!!!!!!! lololololololol

[ClaretInLeeds]

Some people shouldn’t be allowed internet access….

[burnley007]

WOW be fantastic, lets go for it team for saturday

pope


trip steve davies (sold tarks for 20m) mee taylor

Defour


little blake deary eyres



ings


SUBS - MCNEILL - AUSTIN - GRAY - KEANE - DOBSON - ELLIOT - BARTON - HEATON - KINDON - COX
Talk about some options off the bench !!!!!!!!!!!! lololololololol

Sorry, but where's George Oghani???

[jojomk1]

Is there any lasting, frigging hope that we are going to sign someone who will actually start on Saturday

[claretonthecoast1882]

Is there any lasting, frigging hope that we are going to sign someone who will actually start on Saturday

Sign someone this week to start on Saturday ? I don't think there is anyone in the world who thinks will really happen is there

[Hedontplayforyou]

I’d go and get Lewis-Potter from Hull before his stock goes through the roof. Someone else mentioned him earlier in the thread . Him or Brennan Johnson

[jrgbfc]

If it's true we're after Moore maybe Barnes to Cardiff as part of the deal?

[randomclaret2]

I’d go and get Lewis-Potter from Hull before his stock goes through the roof. Someone else mentioned him earlier in the thread . Him or Brennan Johnson

2 extremely good shouts there

[Woodleyclaret]

There is no way Bashley should be got rid off hes a star and now fully fit again will continue to score goals

[Chester Perry]

If it's true we're after Moore maybe Barnes to Cardiff as part of the deal?

It would have to be a separate deal - the Premier League do not allow player swaps or player plus cash deals. It may be what effectively happens but the deals have to be separate transactions for transparency.

[RVclaret]

I’d go and get Lewis-Potter from Hull before his stock goes through the roof. Someone else mentioned him earlier in the thread . Him or Brennan Johnson

These are the exact type of signings I’d like to see us go for. Much like Toney prior to Brentford, Bowen before his big season etc.

[randomclaret2]

These are the exact type of signings I’d like to see us go for. Much like Toney prior to Brentford, Bowen before his big season etc.

Surely our " Transfer committee " are aware of these two, or are we too busy running the rule over Lennon ?

[s6t9a2f3f]

Sorry, but where's George Oghani???

forgot WHOOSH at left back as well for cover !!!!! did not want to intimidate eyres and mcneill by putting branchy on the bench as well

[Firthy]

Surely our " Transfer committee " are aware of these two, or are we too busy running the rule over Lennon ?

Unfortunately they can't see past Lennon so that's your lot for this window. The posters on this board would make a much better transfer committee than what we seem to have at present

[maccclaret]

forgot WHOOSH at left back as well for cover !!!!! did not want to intimidate eyres and mcneill by putting branchy on the bench as well

Branch on the bench would potentially be keeping all positions on their toes; who needs 9 subs when you've got Branchy covering for everybody?

[Newcastleclaret93]

I’d go and get Lewis-Potter from Hull before his stock goes through the roof. Someone else mentioned him earlier in the thread . Him or Brennan Johnson

Both of these players look like they will be playing premier league football in the future. Would be good if we could get in now and loan them back to there respective teams for the season

[RVclaret]

Both of these players look like they will be playing premier league football in the future. Would be good if we could get in now and loan them back to there respective teams for the season

Both would cost circa 10m so if we spend that kind of money it's on players who are ready to challenge the first 11 - now.

[LaLigaClaret]

Its being reported by Nixon that BFC are not interested in Ryan Christie. I imagine our transfer committee went along the lines of "How about Ryan Christie" prompting much laughter and a consensus of "this is Burnley FC why would we want a real winger who can score goals when we can recruit an aging, over the hill and not very good winger who wasn't exactly much good the last time around". Settled then Lennon it is.

[KRBFC]

There is no way Bashley should be got rid off hes a star and now fully fit again will continue to score goals

Barnes is a star and will continue to score goals but Tammy Abraham is shite


ye right

[Newcastleclaret93]

Both would cost circa 10m so if we spend that kind of money it's on players who are ready to challenge the first 11 - now.

True, they could probably come into the first team now. However for there development going on Loan may be better.

For me these are relatively safe investments. Good young players that are already proving it at the lower levels. If they step up to premier league you make a good profit. If you don’t they sell for close to the value you purchased them for.

[MACCA]

True, they could probably come into the first team now. However for there development going on Loan may be better.

For me these are relatively safe investments. Good young players that are already proving it at the lower levels. If they step up to premier league you make a good profit. If you don’t they sell for close to the value you purchased them for.

You mentioned good young players, I stopped reading after that as soon as you mention those words you know theyll be coming no where near Burnley.

[minnieclaret]

With all these wingers we are, reportedly, interested in we are going for an all out aerial assault this season. We could do far worse than Moore, he wins the majority of aerial challenges and has a quick strike on him.

[LaLigaClaret]

Yes but the players we use on the wing at the moment is one who gets injured a lot, one who may be off soon, one who is a midfielder and one who is a full back. We haven't actually recruited any new ones yet.

[brunlea99]

https://www.mercatofootanglais.com/maxw ... dans-le-vi

Translation.

A la recherche d’un latéral gauche offensif, Burnley reste intéressé par celui de l’Olympique Lyonnais, Maxwel Cornet. Après une première offre refusée, le club anglais va revenir à la charge.
Maxwel Cornet reste dans le viseur de Burnley. Le club de Premier League avait déjà tenté sa chance il y a quelques semaines. Mais il avait vu son offre de 10 millions d’euros poliment refusée par l’Olympique Lyonnais. En fait, le club français espère vendre son joueur pour 25 millions d’euros. La prochaine offre des Clarets devrait s’en approcher indique Sky Sports ce lundi.

Lookman, le plan B
Le média britannique croit savoir que cette nouvelle offre serait de 20 millions d’euros. Celle-ci se rapproche donc des exigences du club lyonnais et les négociations pourraient rapidement débuter. En cas d’échec sur cette piste, le club du Lancashire dispose d’une autre solution. Ademola Lookman, du RB Leipzig, serait également dans le viseur du coach local, Sean Dyche.

[brunlea99]

In search of an attacking left-back, Burnley remains interested in that of Olympique Lyonnais, Maxwel Cornet. After a first offer refused, the English club will return to the charge.
Maxwel Cornet remains in Burnley's sights. The Premier League club had already tried its luck a few weeks ago. But he had seen his offer of 10 million euros politely refused by Olympique Lyonnais. In fact, the French club hope to sell their player for 25 million euros. The Clarets’s next bid is expected to come close, said Sky Sports on Monday.

Lookman, plan B
The British media understands that this new offer would be 20 million euros. This is therefore approaching the demands of the Lyon club and negotiations could quickly begin. In the event of failure on this track, the Lancashire club have another solution. RB Leipzig's Ademola Lookman is also reportedly in the sights of local coach Sean Dyche.

[brunlea99]

In search of an attacking left-back, Burnley remains interested in that of Olympique Lyonnais, Maxwel Cornet. After a first offer refused, the English club will return to the charge.
Maxwel Cornet remains in Burnley's sights. The Premier League club had already tried its luck a few weeks ago. But he had seen his offer of 10 million euros politely refused by Olympique Lyonnais. In fact, the French club hope to sell their player for 25 million euros. The Clarets’s next bid is expected to come close, said Sky Sports on Monday.

Lookman, plan B
The British media understands that this new offer would be 20 million euros. This is therefore approaching the demands of the Lyon club and negotiations could quickly begin. In the event of failure on this track, the Lancashire club have another solution. RB Leipzig's Ademola Lookman is also reportedly in the sights of local coach Sean Dyche.

[Local cricketer]

Barnes is a star and will continue to score goals but Tammy Abraham is shite


ye right

I might be wrong but this is the guy that thinks Tarkowski should be moved into midfield so I’d take anything he says with a pinch of salt

[Woodleyclaret]

Dont you just love snotty comments from so called fans who know nothing and have no creative ideas.

[jojomk1]

Sign someone this week to start on Saturday ? I don't think there is anyone in the world who thinks will really happen is there

So, given our managers insistence on players being "Dyche fit" and "system aware", highly unlikely to see anyone new playing in first three games

Which is why Aaron Lennon is a key signing

But at least we then have an international break when they will all have been on the grass and raring to go - I say all in hope

[IanMcL]

Worrall out for sometime

A Long time?

[whiffa]

Have we signed anyone else yet?

[KRBFC]

Doig, Arthur, Maitland Niles, Christie.


Swap Maitland Niles for Nelson, Lookman, Cornet.

[Woodleyclaret]

Not a bad idea
See you can get creative Well done

[Long Time Lurker]

Both would cost circa 10m so if we spend that kind of money it's on players who are ready to challenge the first 11 - now.

Nods, the price of £10m, or an initial £12.5 plus additional payments in the case of Collins, is a reflection of perceived potential.

If the player lives up to that potential they are worth what the club paid. Should they develop in line with the top end of their estimated potential their value could sky rocket. However, should they fail to develop to the expected standard they won't be worth the initial amount that the club paid, their value will fall significantly.

Spending £20m on two players because of their perceived potential would be a huge risk for a club like us, especially when we could buy slightly older players who have proven themselves at a good level for the same amount or talented young players for less money.

When I say young players I mean young foreign players. The foreign talent pool we can access has shrunk significantly because of Brexit ( no more looking in the second tier or lower leagues throughout Europe ), but I still think it is possible to pick out good players who could be available for a lot less than £10m a pop.

And no, I don't mean Arthur Gomes, who didn't strike me as having obvious PL or Championship potential from the short Youtube clips posted in the other thread. I can appreciate the idea of a player possessing untapped potential, learning their craft in the development squad or out on loan. Patiently waiting for the chance to move up to a new level of competition that will stimulate their development or allow them to encounter the right set of circumstances to unlock it.

That might be the case with Gomes, but I doubt it, He has had ample opportunity to showcase a higher level of performance in his two seasons with the Santos first team or during his two loan spells. In respect to the freely available statistical data, which everyone can look at, he has failed to " step up ".

He looks quick compared to the majority of our slow players, which is a relative assessment. I don't think he looks blisteringly quick though and I would put him in the same category as Vydra. His main talent seems to be dribbling at a reasonable pace, notching up progressive distance, before falling over or losing the ball. It is hard to judge his final delivery, because the clips didn't show much of it.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/arthur- ... ewerb/BRA1

https://www.sofascore.com/player/arthur-gomes/822524

https://fbref.com/en/players/184ad240/Arthur

https://www.whoscored.com/Players/32940 ... thur-Gomes

£2m plus wages and sign on fees strikes me as a lot of money to pay for a left field punt. Like I said a few paragraphs ago, we should be looking to buy better for that amount of money or bump it up a bit to sign someone with better statistical attraction points. If the transfermrkt and sofascore data is in the right ball park ( and it might not be ) then the only position he has done reasonably okay in is as a central attacking midfield. His performances as a winger have been pretty poor, apart from his ball carrying.

Brian Ocampo strikes me as a much better option for a speculative investment, providing that his contract does end in December and it doesn't include any complicated wrinkles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DEZrnFusZg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MGMbOblwPk

https://www.leftbackfootball.com/home/2 ... ant-winger

Channel 9 News Reporting

Vello, vello, rapido, regarde grabba da ball, Brian Ocampo, slinky pinky, Schorchio! ( mute helps )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leSWeb2OTjw

I'm sure Dyche can stamp out his desire to perform risky tricks that are best left on the training ground and focus his attention on the basics. Ronaldinho he isn't, but he strikes me as a better outside punt if we are looking at the South American continent.

Carlos Mane of relegated Rio Ave could be another good punt for a low price. He reputedly turned down the offer of a move to Kayserispor the other week, because they weren't prepared to meet his wage demands of £750K a year. I doubt that he will be relishing playing for Rio Ave after they suffered relegation, as a consequence of selling most of their best players on the back of a season where they qualified for Europe. Mane has done well to recover from the injury that he suffered at Stuttgart in early 2017, which kept him out of the game for nearly 2 years, and he still has quite a few years left in his football career.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXnSM5eZlD8

30 minute interview - enable subtitles and then click on the cog to enable auto translate = English

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCAlwtYoWV4

https://www.sofascore.com/player/carlos-mane/859748

In terms of youngsters, that I'm guessing we could pick up for far less than £10m, I listed a bunch of domestic and Nordic players earlier in this thread.

Then again, I don't think we are doing ourselves any big favours with all of our staff leaving. Hart wasn't a big loss and we should have shipped out Rigg two and a half years before we actually did. However, if long serving members of staff continue to leave at the current rate it won't be long before we have nobody left. Add in a manager who is in the last year of his contract and any players we approach might be questioning how stable we are.

It isn't a good impression to be sending out to players who might be considering a move and signing a multi-year contract. I don't think that it qualifies as a deck chairs on the Titanic presentation, but it does seem like a lot of people are jumping into or being pushed into the life boats.

On the outside looking in any potential new players could be asking the same question as some of us are, namely what exactly is going on at the club. We could find ourselves with more directors and associated investors ( none of whom seem to have any real money ) than backroom staff.

Still, we still have ages to go until the window SLAMS SHUT

[Long Time Lurker]

Don't worry guys, I suspect that we have a cunning plan.



We are simply keeping our powder dry and our resources intact so that we can make the most of Draft Day - when we will have a golden opportunity to sign up the best young talent available.

[MACCA]

Nods, the price of £10m, or an initial £12.5 plus additional payments in the case of Collins, is a reflection of perceived potential.

If the player lives up to that potential they are worth what the club paid. Should they develop in line with the top end of their estimated potential their value could sky rocket. However, should they fail to develop to the expected standard they won't be worth the initial amount that the club paid, their value will fall significantly.

Spending £20m on two players because of their perceived potential would be a huge risk for a club like us, especially when we could buy slightly older players who have proven themselves at a good level for the same amount or talented young players for less money.

When I say young players I mean young foreign players. The foreign talent pool we can access has shrunk significantly because of Brexit ( no more looking in the second tier or lower leagues throughout Europe ), but I still think it is possible to pick out good players who could be available for a lot less than £10m a pop.

And no, I don't mean Arthur Gomes, who didn't strike me as having obvious PL or Championship potential from the short Youtube clips posted in the other thread. I can appreciate the idea of a player possessing untapped potential, learning their craft in the development squad or out on loan. Patiently waiting for the chance to move up to a new level of competition that will stimulate their development or allow them to encounter the right set of circumstances to unlock it.

That might be the case with Gomes, but I doubt it, He has had ample opportunity to showcase a higher level of performance in his two seasons with the Santos first team or during his two loan spells. In respect to the freely available statistical data, which everyone can look at, he has failed to " step up ".

He looks quick compared to the majority of our slow players, which is a relative assessment. I don't think he looks blisteringly quick though and I would put him in the same category as Vydra. His main talent seems to be dribbling at a reasonable pace, notching up progressive distance, before falling over or losing the ball. It is hard to judge his final delivery, because the clips didn't show much of it.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/arthur- ... ewerb/BRA1

https://www.sofascore.com/player/arthur-gomes/822524

https://fbref.com/en/players/184ad240/Arthur

https://www.whoscored.com/Players/32940 ... thur-Gomes

£2m plus wages and sign on fees strikes me as a lot of money to pay for a left field punt. Like I said a few paragraphs ago, we should be looking to buy better for that amount of money or bump it up a bit to sign someone with better statistical attraction points. If the transfermrkt and sofascore data is in the right ball park ( and it might not be ) then the only position he has done reasonably okay in is as a central attacking midfield. His performances as a winger have been pretty poor, apart from his ball carrying.

Brian Ocampo strikes me as a much better option for a speculative investment, providing that his contract does end in December and it doesn't include any complicated wrinkles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DEZrnFusZg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MGMbOblwPk

https://www.leftbackfootball.com/home/2 ... ant-winger

Channel 9 News Reporting

Vello, vello, rapido, regarde grabba da ball, Brian Ocampo, slinky pinky, Schorchio! ( mute helps )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leSWeb2OTjw

I'm sure Dyche can stamp out his desire to perform risky tricks that are best left on the training ground and focus his attention on the basics. Ronaldinho he isn't, but he strikes me as a better outside punt if we are looking at the South American continent.

Carlos Mane of relegated Rio Ave could be another good punt for a low price. He reputedly turned down the offer of a move to Kayserispor the other week, because they weren't prepared to meet his wage demands of £750K a year. I doubt that he will be relishing playing for Rio Ave after they suffered relegation, as a consequence of selling most of their best players on the back of a season where they qualified for Europe. Mane has done well to recover from the injury that he suffered at Stuttgart in early 2017, which kept him out of the game for nearly 2 years, and he still has quite a few years left in his football career.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXnSM5eZlD8

30 minute interview - enable subtitles and then click on the cog to enable auto translate = English

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCAlwtYoWV4

https://www.sofascore.com/player/carlos-mane/859748

In terms of youngsters, that I'm guessing we could pick up for far less than £10m, I listed a bunch of domestic and Nordic players earlier in this thread.

Then again, I don't think we are doing ourselves any big favours with all of our staff leaving. Hart wasn't a big loss and we should have shipped out Rigg two and a half years before we actually did. However, if long serving members of staff continue to leave at the current rate it won't be long before we have nobody left. Add in a manager who is in the last year of his contract and any players we approach might be questioning how stable we are.

It isn't a good impression to be sending out to players who might be considering a move and signing a multi-year contract. I don't think that it qualifies as a deck chairs on the Titanic presentation, but it does seem like a lot of people are jumping into or being pushed into the life boats.

On the outside looking in any potential new players could be asking the same question as some of us are, namely what exactly is going on at the club. We could find ourselves with more directors and associated investors ( none of whom seem to have any real money ) than backroom staff.

Still, we still have ages to go until the window SLAMS SHUT

People will think we dont have ages, but we actually do, 3 weeks is an extremely long time in football.

There's certainly the right noises coming out.

[PremierLeagueClass]

If only the ignore list could extend to quotations.

[CoolClaret]

Nods, the price of £10m, or an initial £12.5 plus additional payments in the case of Collins, is a reflection of perceived potential.

If the player lives up to that potential they are worth what the club paid. Should they develop in line with the top end of their estimated potential their value could sky rocket. However, should they fail to develop to the expected standard they won't be worth the initial amount that the club paid, their value will fall significantly.

Spending £20m on two players because of their perceived potential would be a huge risk for a club like us, especially when we could buy slightly older players who have proven themselves at a good level for the same amount or talented young players for less money.

When I say young players I mean young foreign players. The foreign talent pool we can access has shrunk significantly because of Brexit ( no more looking in the second tier or lower leagues throughout Europe ), but I still think it is possible to pick out good players who could be available for a lot less than £10m a pop.

And no, I don't mean Arthur Gomes, who didn't strike me as having obvious PL or Championship potential from the short Youtube clips posted in the other thread. I can appreciate the idea of a player possessing untapped potential, learning their craft in the development squad or out on loan. Patiently waiting for the chance to move up to a new level of competition that will stimulate their development or allow them to encounter the right set of circumstances to unlock it.

That might be the case with Gomes, but I doubt it, He has had ample opportunity to showcase a higher level of performance in his two seasons with the Santos first team or during his two loan spells. In respect to the freely available statistical data, which everyone can look at, he has failed to " step up ".

He looks quick compared to the majority of our slow players, which is a relative assessment. I don't think he looks blisteringly quick though and I would put him in the same category as Vydra. His main talent seems to be dribbling at a reasonable pace, notching up progressive distance, before falling over or losing the ball. It is hard to judge his final delivery, because the clips didn't show much of it.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/arthur- ... ewerb/BRA1

https://www.sofascore.com/player/arthur-gomes/822524

https://fbref.com/en/players/184ad240/Arthur

https://www.whoscored.com/Players/32940 ... thur-Gomes

£2m plus wages and sign on fees strikes me as a lot of money to pay for a left field punt. Like I said a few paragraphs ago, we should be looking to buy better for that amount of money or bump it up a bit to sign someone with better statistical attraction points. If the transfermrkt and sofascore data is in the right ball park ( and it might not be ) then the only position he has done reasonably okay in is as a central attacking midfield. His performances as a winger have been pretty poor, apart from his ball carrying.

Brian Ocampo strikes me as a much better option for a speculative investment, providing that his contract does end in December and it doesn't include any complicated wrinkles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DEZrnFusZg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MGMbOblwPk

https://www.leftbackfootball.com/home/2 ... ant-winger

Channel 9 News Reporting

Vello, vello, rapido, regarde grabba da ball, Brian Ocampo, slinky pinky, Schorchio! ( mute helps )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leSWeb2OTjw

I'm sure Dyche can stamp out his desire to perform risky tricks that are best left on the training ground and focus his attention on the basics. Ronaldinho he isn't, but he strikes me as a better outside punt if we are looking at the South American continent.

Carlos Mane of relegated Rio Ave could be another good punt for a low price. He reputedly turned down the offer of a move to Kayserispor the other week, because they weren't prepared to meet his wage demands of £750K a year. I doubt that he will be relishing playing for Rio Ave after they suffered relegation, as a consequence of selling most of their best players on the back of a season where they qualified for Europe. Mane has done well to recover from the injury that he suffered at Stuttgart in early 2017, which kept him out of the game for nearly 2 years, and he still has quite a few years left in his football career.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXnSM5eZlD8

30 minute interview - enable subtitles and then click on the cog to enable auto translate = English

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCAlwtYoWV4

https://www.sofascore.com/player/carlos-mane/859748

In terms of youngsters, that I'm guessing we could pick up for far less than £10m, I listed a bunch of domestic and Nordic players earlier in this thread.

Then again, I don't think we are doing ourselves any big favours with all of our staff leaving. Hart wasn't a big loss and we should have shipped out Rigg two and a half years before we actually did. However, if long serving members of staff continue to leave at the current rate it won't be long before we have nobody left. Add in a manager who is in the last year of his contract and any players we approach might be questioning how stable we are.

It isn't a good impression to be sending out to players who might be considering a move and signing a multi-year contract. I don't think that it qualifies as a deck chairs on the Titanic presentation, but it does seem like a lot of people are jumping into or being pushed into the life boats.

On the outside looking in any potential new players could be asking the same question as some of us are, namely what exactly is going on at the club. We could find ourselves with more directors and associated investors ( none of whom seem to have any real money ) than backroom staff.

Still, we still have ages to go until the window SLAMS SHUT

Hmm some good ideas

[Steddyman]

People will think we dont have ages, but we actually do, 3 weeks is an extremely long time in football.

There's certainly the right noises coming out.

If only we didn't have a history of our transfer window fizzling out to nothing.

[LawsCanalJump]

This guy knows we sign players on Thursdays

[welsbyswife]

This guy knows we sign players on Thursdays

Never trust a man wearing a baseball cap the wrong way round.

[Peter Loo]

Or never trust a man wearing a baseball cap!

[Devils_Advocate]

There's fewer more distressing sights than that of an Englishman in a baseball cap

[randomclaret2]

There's fewer more distressing sights than that of an Englishman in a baseball cap

Or indeed a Frenchman...

[Devils_Advocate]

Or indeed a Frenchman...

Its definitely a time for heroes