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Re: Team v Liverpool

Post by Conroy92 » Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:40 am

What position is Owen Dodgson?

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Re: Team v Liverpool

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:41 am

ksrclaret wrote:
Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:39 am
So who is looking forward to all that defending from the front then?

We might even get to activate from the defensive phase if we're lucky.
What lineup would you have selected?

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Re: Team v Liverpool

Post by Local cricketer » Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:41 am

ksrclaret wrote:
Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:35 am
Is Vydra injured, p1ssed off, in the dog house, or leaving?

Local cricketer? Can you offer anything on that one?
Heard he is in talks with a German side

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Re: Team v Liverpool

Post by BenWickes » Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:42 am

Conroy92 wrote:
Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:40 am
What position is Owen Dodgson?
Defender.

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Re: Team v Liverpool

Post by taio » Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:42 am

Totally reasonable to have two keepers on a bench with nine subs. The lack of quality on the bench however is concerning.
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Re: Team v Liverpool

Post by williamjblazkowicz » Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:42 am

That bench just speaks volumes re our recruitment (or lack of) over the past two or three seasons. It's awful. Two keepers and not too many viable options if we're chasing the game. We'll struggle without Westwood as well! Sorry if that's a bit doom and gloom, ha!
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Re: Team v Liverpool

Post by Colburn_Claret » Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:42 am

Worrying no Vyds or Westwood, if they're injured it's tough.
It's not a proactive line up with Ash starting, yet he had a great game at Anfield last season.

It's a cross everything and hope for the best game.
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Re: Team v Liverpool

Post by joey13 » Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:43 am

Rileybobs wrote:
Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:41 am
What lineup would you have selected?
I would have selected the 3 new first team signings , oh hang :roll:

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Re: Team v Liverpool

Post by ksrclaret » Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:44 am

Rileybobs wrote:
Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:41 am
What lineup would you have selected?
Pope
Lowton Tarkowski Mee Taylor
JBG Brownhill Cork Pieters
McNeil
Wood

Far form ideal but then neither is our squad. Had Westwood been fit I'd have had JBG on the left and Brownhill on the right.

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Re: Team v Liverpool

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:47 am

ksrclaret wrote:
Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:44 am
Pope
Lowton Tarkowski Mee Taylor
JBG Brownhill Cork Pieters
McNeil
Wood

Far form ideal but then neither is our squad. Had Westwood been fit I'd have had JBG on the left and Brownhill on the right.
So you’re criticising Dyche’s lineup, pointing out how defensive it is, yet you’d make just one change and it would be to replace a striker with a defender? :?

Let’s face it, the team is pretty much the team. The problem isn’t the selection, it’s the stark lack of options.

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Re: Team v Liverpool

Post by ksrclaret » Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:50 am

Rileybobs wrote:
Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:47 am
So you’re criticising Dyche’s lineup, pointing out how defensive it is, yet you’d make just one change and it would be to replace a striker with a defender? :?

Let’s face it, the team is pretty much the team. The problem isn’t the selection, it’s the stark lack of options.
You've missed my point. Not to worry though as it was a product of my sarcasm which doesn't always come across. It was a reference to the inclusion of Barnes when Dyche last week suggested he should play because he defends from the front. I have no problems with a defensive game plan at Liverpool, but my problem is the selection.

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Re: Team v Liverpool

Post by SouthLondonexile » Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:52 am

Am I missing something - Vydra seems to be missing.

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Re: Team v Liverpool

Post by Andreshotboots » Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:52 am

taio wrote:
Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:42 am
Totally reasonable to have two keepers on a bench with nine subs. The lack of quality on the bench however is concerning.
The lack of quality in the starting line up is concerning..

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Re: Team v Liverpool

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:53 am

ksrclaret wrote:
Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:50 am
You've missed my point. Not to worry though as it was a product of my sarcasm which doesn't always come across. It was a reference to the inclusion of Barnes when Dyche last week suggested he should play because he defends from the front. I have no problems with a defensive game plan at Liverpool, but my problem is the selection.
I got the reference to Dyche’s comments but interpreted that you were criticising his selection. Yet you would only make one change, and that would be to change the system and replace a striker with another full back.

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Re: Team v Liverpool

Post by taio » Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:55 am

My problem is not with the selection of the starting eleven but the significant lack of depth in our squad. Today's squad exemplifies this - it's a ridiculous situation.

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Re: Team v Liverpool

Post by Elizabeth » Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:55 am

Fearing the worst today

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Re: Team v Liverpool

Post by Boss Hogg » Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:56 am

Weak team and lack of options again. Successive pitiful transfer windows come home to roost.
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Re: Team v Liverpool

Post by SGr » Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:58 am

Boss Hogg wrote:
Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:56 am
Weak team and lack of options again. Successive pitiful transfer windows come home to roost.
But we finished 7th last season!

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Re: Team v Liverpool

Post by bobinho » Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:59 am

Local cricketer wrote:
Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:41 am
Heard he is in talks with a German side
Well if he is, I can’t say I blame him.
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Re: Team v Liverpool

Post by ksrclaret » Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:59 am

Rileybobs wrote:
Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:53 am
I got the reference to Dyche’s comments but interpreted that you were criticising his selection. Yet you would only make one change, and that would be to change the system and replace a striker with another full back.
If you choose to reduce it down like that, fine. I think it's deliberately obtuse to do that, though. My view is that the change I would make would change the formation and change the way we are able to play with the ball.

Anyway, you asked me what lineup I would select, I've given it, you don't like it. Fine. Nothing I can do about that.

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Re: Team v Liverpool

Post by RVclaret » Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:59 am

3-0 inbound

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Re: Team v Liverpool

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:00 pm

taio wrote:
Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:55 am
My problem is not with the selection of the starting eleven but the significant lack of depth in our squad. Today's squad exemplifies this - it's a ridiculous situation.
Yep. There's hardly anything to change a game at the best of times, as soon as we're a couple of players down we look completely threadbare - and there are more integral players than Westwood and Vydra who we could be without.

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Re: Team v Liverpool

Post by taio » Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:01 pm

Andreshotboots wrote:
Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:52 am
The lack of quality in the starting line up is concerning..
I would say that our lack of squad depth should be our greatest concern. If we don't strengthen it will be the weakness in our squad that presents the biggest risk to survival in my view.

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Re: Team v Liverpool

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:01 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:59 am
If you choose to reduce it down like that, fine. I think it's deliberately obtuse to do that, though. My view is that the change I would make would change the formation and change the way we are able to play with the ball.

Anyway, you asked me what lineup I would select, I've given it, you don't like it. Fine. Nothing I can do about that.
:lol: I just thought it was unfair to criticise the manager's selection given that the team practically picks itself considering the players available.

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Re: Team v Liverpool

Post by warksclaret » Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:04 pm

Just pray that Cork or Brownhill not injured early on.Pitiful we dont have a recognised CM on the bench. And this is in a week we have few out injured

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Re: Team v Liverpool

Post by ksrclaret » Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:05 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:01 pm
:lol: I just thought it was unfair to criticise the manager's selection given that the team practically picks itself considering the players available.
You’d have a point if that were true.

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Re: Team v Liverpool

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:07 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:05 pm
You’d have a point if that were true.
If I misunderstood your post as a criticism of the team selection then my apologies.

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Re: Team v Liverpool

Post by ksrclaret » Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:10 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:07 pm
If I misunderstood your post as a criticism of the team selection then my apologies.
Sorry, I meant the bit about the team picking itself. That’s only your opinion.

I was criticising the selection. We discussed it though and we don’t agree, but that’s fine, it’s allowed. Enjoy the match.

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Re: Team v Liverpool

Post by Yeovil1951 » Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:11 pm

Any chance of the team being published with subs .

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Re: Team v Liverpool

Post by Blatherwickstattoo » Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:12 pm

A disgrace Barnes is starting. A big big defeat on the cards here. The bench is a joke

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Re: Team v Liverpool

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:12 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:04 pm
Just pray that Cork or Brownhill not injured early on.Pitiful we dont have a recognised CM on the bench. And this is in a week we have few out injured
I assume the plan is if one of them is injured McNeil will go central with Pieters or Dodgson coming on the left.

Shows how weak how squad is at the moment

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Re: Team v Liverpool

Post by Sproggy » Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:12 pm

Hopefully we'll dig in, frustrate them and catch a bit of luck on the break.

But shame on those behind the scenes for the state of our squad depth.

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Re: Team v Liverpool

Post by burnley007 » Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:12 pm

any decent links?

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Re: Team v Liverpool

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:13 pm

BenWickes wrote:
Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:42 am
Defender.
And winger

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Re: Team v Liverpool

Post by SalisburyClaret » Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:18 pm

Conroy92 wrote:
Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:40 am
What position is Owen Dodgson?
Left back/ left midfield

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Re: Team v Liverpool

Post by Elizabeth » Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:19 pm

Anybody feeling we might nick something today ?

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Re: Team v Liverpool

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:19 pm

For a club who has been in the top flight for as long as we have that bench is an embarrassment.
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Re: Team v Liverpool

Post by Murger » Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:21 pm

Embarrassing on so many levels.

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Re: Team v Liverpool

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:21 pm

Elizabeth wrote:
Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:19 pm
Anybody feeling we might nick something today ?
A couple of their players would be nice

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Re: Team v Liverpool

Post by MACCA » Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:22 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:59 am
3-0 inbound
Only 3, that isnt a bad result I dont think.
I thought 3 before I saw the line up and pitiful bench.

Cheers Mike.

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Re: Team v Liverpool

Post by SalisburyClaret » Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:28 pm

It might be Anfield but it’s nothing like the old Anfield

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Re: Team v Liverpool

Post by Mrpotatohead » Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:31 pm

Gone are the days of feeling we have an outside chance against any team. Our lack of depth is embarrassing. People can slag Dyche off until the cows come home, but his hands really are tied with such a small squad.

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Re: Team v Liverpool

Post by NickBFC » Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:41 pm

Lack of quality and strength in depth is absolutely frightening for a Premier League side. A shambles.

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Re: Team v Liverpool

Post by Murger » Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:41 pm

Mrpotatohead wrote:
Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:31 pm
Gone are the days of feeling we have an outside chance against any team. Our lack of depth is embarrassing. People can slag Dyche off until the cows come home, but his hands really are tied with such a small squad.
Our lack of depth COULD have something to do with the managers reluctance to shop in another market.
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