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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Silkyskills1 » Sat Oct 09, 2021 2:49 pm

'happy for their fans'

The ones that remained or the ones that stayed away?

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Oct 09, 2021 2:56 pm

If only the same positivity being shown to Newcastle FC and it’s ‘long suffering fans’ where shown to our own club on here!
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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Silkyskills1 » Sat Oct 09, 2021 3:01 pm

Listening to the radio yesterday and apparently they've had 14 years of turmoil. Makes you think what the country's just had for the last 18 months and what seemingly lies ahead for the foreseeable future.
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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Grumps » Sat Oct 09, 2021 3:21 pm

Happy for tarks to go to Saudi utd if they pay big bucks... We've enough cover
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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Grumps » Sat Oct 09, 2021 3:24 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 9:20 am
I do think talk of Newcastle signing mega stars is a little premature, regardless of their wealth.

There are only so many top players to go round and that is a very competitive market already with clubs that have deep pockets and history both long term and short term already in there!

Throw in the fact that Newcastle really is the frozen north and not as desirable as London and Manchester and I don’t think it will be as straight forward as people think.

Comparisons with China and that Russian team that bought players are fine but how many genuine world starts followed that path? The ones that did were on one last pay day.

I expect that’s where Newcastle will be in the short term, good players topping up their pension pots…..what happens after that, time will tell.
Big fuss when they signed keegan
Big fuss when they signed shearer

What did they win??

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Elizabeth » Sat Oct 09, 2021 3:26 pm

I would not be surprised if we sell Tarkowski in January. It might be Newcastle because he’s better than what they’ve got and they might fancy him before they go big .
Yes , selling to a relegation rival would not be popular but Pace needs money to take us forward.
Glad Collins is getting the chance to show what he can do

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by joey13 » Sat Oct 09, 2021 3:29 pm

If Tarks is going to Newcastle who’s their new manager?

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Oct 09, 2021 3:30 pm

joey13 wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 3:29 pm
If Tarks is going to Newcastle who’s their new manager?
Steven Gerrard I imagine

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by joey13 » Sat Oct 09, 2021 3:33 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 3:30 pm
Steven Gerrard I imagine
So he’s identified which players he wants , while still being Rangers manager then ?

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Oct 09, 2021 3:34 pm

joey13 wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 3:33 pm
So he’s identified which players he wants , while still being Rangers manager then ?
No I don’t believe many managers actually select players now anyway. Isn’t that the role of head of football at these clubs

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by JohnDearyMe » Sat Oct 09, 2021 3:37 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 3:01 pm
Listening to the radio yesterday and apparently they've had 14 years of turmoil. Makes you think what the country's just had for the last 18 months and what seemingly lies ahead for the foreseeable future.
I'd argue it makes the suffering of the Saudi Arabian people seem insignificant by comparison too

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Grumps » Sat Oct 09, 2021 3:39 pm

JohnDearyMe wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 3:37 pm
I'd argue it makes the suffering of the Saudi Arabian people seem insignificant by comparison too
You're forgetting that the media love Newcastle, so that side will be brushed away

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Oct 09, 2021 3:40 pm

JohnDearyMe wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 3:37 pm
I'd argue it makes the suffering of the Saudi Arabian people seem insignificant by comparison too
Out of interest John have you ever been to Saudi?

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by AlargeClaret » Sat Oct 09, 2021 3:41 pm

Could the great KK be heading “ home” ?

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by JohnDearyMe » Sat Oct 09, 2021 3:47 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 3:40 pm
Out of interest John have you ever been to Saudi?
No. I studied Middle Eastern politics at university though
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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Elizabeth » Sat Oct 09, 2021 3:50 pm

KK - well not in a managerial capacity but will be a big surprise if Keegan and Shearer are not brought in as figureheads

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by houseboy » Sat Oct 09, 2021 3:54 pm

MACCA wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 12:08 pm
They tried but lots of people cried and got all upset about it.
It wouldn't have bothered me one bit.

It would have been good for English football IMO
You know bud I cried about it as well, but after reflection I’m not sure it was that bad an idea. The absence of the ‘big six’ (or is it five now as I’m not convinced the Gooners now qualify) would be a welcome idea, opening up the PL to more competition and less whining players and managers. Perhaps they should go play in there own closed shop and enjoy all their wealth and their preening players. Meanwhile we could get back to what happens on the pitch without the side competitions of who pays more for players and who has the biggest bank account.

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Silkyskills1 » Sat Oct 09, 2021 3:59 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 3:40 pm
Out of interest John have you ever been to Saudi?
It seems you've travelled further and wider than myself and maybe a lot more on this site but I'm still intrigued to know what you witnessed in Oman and Dubai that seemingly makes the actions of the Saudi regime pale into insignificance. If you don't want to tell me then just say so and we can put it behind us.
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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sat Oct 09, 2021 4:03 pm

Another one here who wants to know what you've seen

And as I've already said on the other thread, I've been to UAE and my family actually lived there for a while so I'm more than a little intrigued

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sat Oct 09, 2021 4:07 pm

Frantic googling going on I suspect.

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Oct 09, 2021 4:07 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 3:59 pm
It seems you've travelled further and wider than myself and maybe a lot more on this site but I'm still intrigued to know what you witnessed in Oman and Dubai that seemingly makes the actions of the Saudi regime pale into insignificance. If you don't want to tell me then just say so and we can put it behind us.
The general public were certainly poorer in Saudi but from what I personally saw the workers were treat considerably better than in Dubai and Oman.

On regular basis I saw hundreds of workers sleeping on construction sites with next to no amenities at all. Plus they got paid considerably worst than they did in Saudi.

From my experience Saudi was not the most pleasant place because it was quite third world. However it is certainly not what many posters on here make it out to be. For example I never saw anyone get beheaded or stoned to death in the street.

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Silkyskills1 » Sat Oct 09, 2021 4:11 pm

Right. Okay thanks. That's cleared that one up.

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by JohnDearyMe » Sat Oct 09, 2021 4:12 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 4:07 pm
However it is certainly not what many posters on here make it out to be. For example I never saw anyone get beheaded or stoned to death in the street.
That's good to hear. I'll drop Amnesty International a line on Monday and ask them to stand down
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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by taio » Sat Oct 09, 2021 4:16 pm

It's sometimes hard to understand what goes on in someone's head.

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Oct 09, 2021 4:18 pm

JohnDearyMe wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 4:12 pm
That's good to hear. I'll drop Amnesty International a line on Monday and ask them to stand down
Obviously for the western world we think there culture is totally barbaric.

In my personal opinion I just couldn’t tell Saudi Arabia apart from other Middle Eastern countries. It did not seem to be any worse.

Kuwait was the only Middle Eastern country where I felt they had actively tried to adopt western culture

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Oct 09, 2021 4:22 pm

Just realised McParland is going to Newcastle, maybe there is something in the Tarks deal

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sat Oct 09, 2021 4:29 pm

So what do you do for a living, that saw you work in Saudi, Kuwait, Oman and Dubai?

Hell, I bet you even worked in all of the seven emirates that make up the UAE

Must have been a hell of a job

And if you've done all that, with the wages on offer, you must be absolutely loaded

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Oct 09, 2021 4:32 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 4:29 pm
So what do you do for a living, that saw you work in Saudi, Kuwait, Oman and Dubai?

Hell, I bet you even worked in all of the seven emirates that make up the UAE

Must have been a hell of a job

And if you've done all that, with the wages on offer, you must be absolutely loaded
I worked in cinema construction. Based in the U.K. travelling to different areas of the world to build cinemas. Obviously spent a lot of time in various Middle East countries due to the finances the cinema companies had.

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sat Oct 09, 2021 4:35 pm

Figured it had to be one of the military, or construction, or the various energy field

But that must a highly specialised field, a company that just builds cinemas?

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Oct 09, 2021 4:38 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 4:35 pm
Figured it had to be one of the military, or construction, or the various energy field

But that must a highly specialised field, a company that just builds cinemas?
Yep very specialised and unfortunately due to Covid resulted in over 90% staff across the international branches being made redundant.

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sat Oct 09, 2021 4:38 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 4:38 pm
Yep very specialised and unfortunately due to Covid resulted in over 90% staff across the international branches being made redundant.
Yeah, was defo thinking that must have been very hard hit by Covid

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by ewanrob » Sat Oct 09, 2021 4:39 pm

Don't think either will be good enough for the heights NU will want to be going.

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Oct 09, 2021 4:42 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 4:38 pm
Yeah, was defo thinking that must have been very hard hit by Covid
Thankfully I was very fortunate and managed to get a role in a different sector of construction.

Back to the original topic, I thought Tarks and McNeil would possibly be a level below the calibre of player they wanted. However with the Mcparland link I can certainly see this happening now.

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Oct 09, 2021 6:22 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 4:42 pm
Thankfully I was very fortunate and managed to get a role in a different sector of construction.

Back to the original topic, I thought Tarks and McNeil would possibly be a level below the calibre of player they wanted. However with the Mcparland link I can certainly see this happening now.
So because McParland is going to Newcastle they’ll now be buying a lower calibre of player? And you can definitely see McNeil and Tarkowski signing for Newcastle because someone has made a totally random suggestion on here?
:?
I remember when you suggested that Brazilian player we were linked with was a done deal because he followed BFC on Instagram. How does your mind work?

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Oct 09, 2021 6:23 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 6:22 pm
So because McParland is going to Newcastle they’ll now be buying a lower calibre of player? And you can definitely see McNeil and Tarkowski signing for Newcastle because someone has made a totally random suggestion on here?
:?
I remember when you suggested that Brazilian player we were linked with was a done deal because he followed BFC on Instagram. How does your mind work?
Yes I can see it happening. McParland worked with Tarks at Brentford and helped bring him to Burnley. It would make sense with the recent links in the paper for him to go there.

Not saying it’s definite as no one knows that apart from the parties involved. I can certainly see it happening though

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Oct 09, 2021 6:33 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 6:23 pm
Yes I can see it happening. McParland worked with Tarks at Brentford and helped bring him to Burnley. It would make sense with the recent links in the paper for him to go there.

Not saying it’s definite as no one knows that apart from the parties involved. I can certainly see it happening though
He’ll be back in England squad soon.

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Oct 09, 2021 6:46 pm

ewanrob wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 4:39 pm
Don't think either will be good enough for the heights NU will want to be going.
Neither would be bench players at best there can keep
there old pal Jeff company if that happened,

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Silkyskills1 » Sat Oct 09, 2021 6:48 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 4:18 pm
Obviously for the western world we think there culture is totally barbaric.
Understandable.
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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by jrgbfc » Sat Oct 09, 2021 7:08 pm

I think Newcastle will be setting their sights a bit higher than Tarkowski, even in the short term.

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Spijed » Sat Oct 09, 2021 7:19 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 7:08 pm
I think Newcastle will be setting their sights a bit higher than Tarkowski, even in the short term.
They certainly won't be able to convince top players at any big club to suddenly give up a chance of silverware to play for a side in the lower reaches of the PL come January though.

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by HahaYeah » Sat Oct 09, 2021 7:33 pm

Might be an idea to raid their relegation rivals of good players for the near future. :? :(

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Iloveyoubrady » Sat Oct 09, 2021 7:35 pm

HahaYeah wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 7:33 pm
Might be an idea to raid their relegation rivals of good players for the near future. :? :(
If we could raid them for some of their better players before they are cast aside due to the arrival of better ones.

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Swizzlestick » Sat Oct 09, 2021 9:20 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 7:08 pm
I think Newcastle will be setting their sights a bit higher than Tarkowski, even in the short term.
Genuine question, which CB are they viably getting who’s better than him in Jan? Bearing in mind they’ll still more likely be bottom half of the table.

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by JohnDearyMe » Sat Oct 09, 2021 9:25 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 6:48 pm
Understandable.
Bloody Westerners getting in a tizzy about people getting their heads chopped off. When will they grow up!
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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by KRBFC » Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:46 am

JohnDearyMe wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 9:25 pm
Bloody Westerners getting in a tizzy about people getting their heads chopped off. When will they grow up!
I think Newcastle has a point somewhat, people in the west are easily influenced by media, many scared to travel to certain places because of these wild fabricated stories they've read in newspapers. Sadly the UK is full of sheep brained idiots who swallow up these stories, form an opinion and just run with it.

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by fidelcastro » Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:53 am

KRBFC wrote:
Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:46 am
I think Newcastle has a point somewhat, people in the west are easily influenced by media, many scared to travel to certain places because of these wild fabricated stories they've read in newspapers. Sadly the UK is full of sheep brained idiots who swallow up these stories, form an opinion and just run with it.
Oh right, it must all be lies about Saudi Arabia having one of the worst human rights records in the world then.

:roll:
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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by KRBFC » Sun Oct 10, 2021 1:24 am

fidelcastro wrote:
Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:53 am
Oh right, it must all be lies about Saudi Arabia having one of the worst human rights records in the world then.

:roll:
Not quite exactly what I said, I'm not surprised you of all people missed the point entirely though.

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Swizzlestick » Sun Oct 10, 2021 2:45 am

KRBFC wrote:
Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:46 am
I think Newcastle has a point somewhat, people in the west are easily influenced by media, many scared to travel to certain places because of these wild fabricated stories they've read in newspapers. Sadly the UK is full of sheep brained idiots who swallow up these stories, form an opinion and just run with it.
What stories have been fabricated about Saudi Arabia?
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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by bf2k » Sun Oct 10, 2021 3:31 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 4:07 pm
The general public were certainly poorer in Saudi but from what I personally saw the workers were treat considerably better than in Dubai and Oman.

On regular basis I saw hundreds of workers sleeping on construction sites with next to no amenities at all. Plus they got paid considerably worst than they did in Saudi.

From my experience Saudi was not the most pleasant place because it was quite third world. However it is certainly not what many posters on here make it out to be. For example I never saw anyone get beheaded or stoned to death in the street.
I personally never saw the beheadings or stonings but my colleagues sure did! In my experience and that of my work colleagues Saudi is a place we never wish to go again. It’s corrupt, unsafe and the way people are treated is appalling.

The UAE isn’t the nicest of places to work either but it’s a million miles away from Saudi.

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by IanMcL » Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:39 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 4:29 pm
So what do you do for a living, that saw you work in Saudi, Kuwait, Oman and Dubai?

Hell, I bet you even worked in all of the seven emirates that make up the UAE
Bedouin?

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