When you see Ben Mee....

[Bin Ont Turf]

Jogging back just before their third, you know it's time to pack our sh1t up and f*** off to the Championship.

Did 2 minutes later as well.

[Milltown1882]

There’s only so many times I can watch him hitting aimless balls towards the corner flag this season. Awful.

[Pommieclaret]

Head turned by offer of riches elsewhere just like the other donkey at the side of him

[IanMcL]

Harsh for 2 players who have given hugely to our success.

[Jakubclaret]

Harsh for 2 players who have given hugely to our success.

No room for sentiment by & large the team needs a massive overhaul.

[Cubanforever]

Head turned by offer of riches elsewhere just like the other donkey at the side of him

Im ****** off too but thats a cheap shot

[NewClaret]

I noticed that. Didn’t see the second occasion as I’d left. If he’s doing that it looks like our heads have gone.

[Johma]

No room for sentiment by & large the team needs a massive overhaul.

Correct
Its about the here and now
Shape up or ship out

[Woodleyclaret]

Ben needs to sign his new deal and we need to get Collins in as his partner

[Bosscat]

Wow a game like this certainly brings them out of the woodwork and from under the rock they hide under doesn't it ...

[snapcrackleandpop]

Mee will sign mark my words because absolutely no other premier league team would want him

[Pommieclaret]

We all have BFC interest at heart and I certainly have since the late 60s seen all the good times and the bad times so no Bosscat I haven't been hid under the so called rock!!!!

[Safron]

Wow a game like this certainly brings them out of the woodwork and from under the rock they hide under doesn't it ...

Ha ha and here comes the happy clappers union

[BLH_Claret]

Wow a game like this certainly brings them out of the woodwork and from under the rock they hide under doesn't it ...

Iceberg, what Iceberg?

[evensteadiereddie]

Ben Mee now getting pelters....I think that completes the whole squad. And Dyche. And Garlick. And the tea lady..........I'm assuming some - some, note - of the criticism written on here today is from undercover Rovers fans. It certainly reads like it.

[AlargeClaret]

Mee wouldn’t get a game for most champ sides , been a noble servant but shouldn’t be anywhere near the prem

[Cubanforever]

We all have BFC interest at heart and I certainly have since the late 60s seen all the good times and the bad times so no Bosscat I haven't been hid under the so called rock!!!!

Well you should be mature enough to offer a considerred opinion...if that is a considerred opinion you havent seen what theyve done for us

[Bin Ont Turf]

I noticed that. Didn’t see the second occasion as I’d left. If he’s doing that it looks like our heads have gone.

It was so noticeable with it being him, supposedly our leader on the pitch.

[NewClaret]

It was so noticeable with it being him, supposedly our leader on the pitch.

Yep, hope it’s not a sign of bigger issues

[jedi_master]

Ben Mee does not seem the same player he has done and I don’t mean in terms of ability.

I started a thread the other week on the subject of his contract and how it was affecting him, I’m now certain there’s something to it.

He’s in that same boat as many in probably refusing to discuss a new contract with us (as it’ll contain a relegation clause and we’re nailed on for relegation). As a result, he won’t be the same player. Would you be? He and Tarky are both waiting on a massive final pay day from Newcastle, West Ham etc at the end of this season - and there’s every chance that now we’re in 2022 their agents are already getting their offers to show them. That’s going to impact your performance, you might be more reluctant to make the big tackle and do your ACL etc….

I hope I’m wrong, and I love what Ben Mee has done for Burnley but there’s no loyalty in this sport. His loyalty, rightly, is to his family. Another I think is a certainty to go.

[Safron]

I just don't get why nufc would be interested in an aging limited footballer in mee, he only fits in Burnley,s style of play

[Commy]

I think Ben is happy where he is. He has already earned enough to be set for life and is captain of a club he now loves. Even if we do go down I think he will stay. Money, when you have enough and are happy is not always enough to leave.

[bobinho]

Ben Mee now getting pelters....I think that completes the whole squad. And Dyche. And Garlick. And the tea lady..........I'm assuming some - some, note - of the criticism written on here today is from undercover Rovers fans. It certainly reads like it.

Wake up to yourself fella. Mee is getting pelters today because he didn’t play well and didn’t lead by example, which is something he has ALWAYS done.

Dyche is getting it because of his predictable and monotonous pre/post match briefings failing to acknowledge what we have all just witnessed, and failing to set a side up to win a game against a severely depleted side who happen to be a relegation rival.

Garlick is getting it because of his lack of investment when he held the reins. He was far too interested in jumping ship and lining his own pockets than leaving the club in good shape.

No one has given the tea lady any hassle, you added that because you think it adds something to your argument. It doesn’t.

[warksclaret]

I dont think its in central defence our problems lie. I guess our two CH's are becoming disillusioned with our failure to take chances, and the pressure and cover they are getting from midfield

[joey13]

Laughing and joking with the opposition at 2-1 down doesn’t sit well with me .

[joey13]

Ben Mee now getting pelters....I think that completes the whole squad. And Dyche. And Garlick. And the tea lady..........I'm assuming some - some, note - of the criticism written on here today is from undercover Rovers fans. It certainly reads like it.

Pathetic comment

[Burt]

Mee wouldn’t get a game for most champ sides , been a noble servant but shouldn’t be anywhere near the prem

Sorry but that is absolute tripe

[Murger]

Him and Tarks need sticking in a taxi and dropping off somewhere. It's beyond pathetic what they're serving up this season.

[evensteadiereddie]

Pathetic comment

Explain. I can understand the comments relating to our investment over the years not being high enough. I can understand the comments based on that lack of investment and the resulting lack of competitiveness we now have.

What I can't understand are the comments regarding players not caring, Dyche not having a clue, Dyche having lost the dressing room, Dyche and Stone having no idea regarding the coaching side, Dyche's predictable post match comments, players not trying and so on. Endless criticism based on supposition and perceived wisdom. Bullshit in other words.

It is an insult to Dyche and his staff to suggest any/all of them are neither interested nor committed enough to lead or play for the club.
The meltdown on here today and the tantrums that have accompanied it - now they are pathetic.

The simple matter is that our squad is not good enough to give all but the poorest sides a good game over 90 minutes and hasn't been for a number of years but Dyche, without much credit from some on here, has had the squad over-performing well individually and as a unit.
Time and effort have taken their toll on the players - Dyche, too, no doubt- but we're two points behind for God's sake.

[joey13]

Explain. I can understand the comments relating to our investment over the years not being high enough. I can understand the comments based on that lack of investment and the resulting lack of competitiveness we now have.

What I can't understand are the comments regarding players not caring, Dyche not having a clue, Dyche having lost the dressing room, Dyche and Stone having no idea regarding the coaching side, Dyche's predictable post match comments, players not trying and so on. Endless criticism based on supposition and perceived wisdom. Bullshit in other words.

It is an insult to Dyche and his staff to suggest any/all of them are neither interested nor committed enough to lead or play for the club.
The meltdown on here today and the tantrums that have accompanied it - now they are pathetic.

The simple matter is that our squad is not good enough to give all but the poorest sides a good game over 90 minutes and hasn't been for a number of years but Dyche, without much credit from some on here, has had the squad over-performing well individually and as a unit.
Time and effort have taken their toll on the players - Dyche, too, no doubt- but we're two points behind for God's sake.

Pathetic comment because supporters who have the audacity to criticise Dyche or lack of effort from players and bearing in mind have got 1 win in 20 are branded as undercover Blackburn fans

[nil_desperandum]

I just don't get why nufc would be interested in an aging limited footballer in mee, he only fits in Burnley,s style of play

Maybe you've overlooked that fact that they are our relegation rivals and have unlimited funding. They can unsettle us massively by talking up big money deals for our key players, and could even afford to buy our best players and not even play them in order to fatally weaken us.
In fact the former is exactly what I would be doing in their position.

[Jakubclaret]

Maybe you've overlooked that fact that they are our relegation rivals and have unlimited funding. They can unsettle us massively by talking up big money deals for our key players, and could even afford to buy our best players and not even play them in order to fatally weaken us.
In fact the former is exactly what I would be doing in their position.

The flaw in that masterplan is that they could just buy far superior players to ours without the need to take ours, to be honest with the way ours are performing Newcastle will be desperately praying that mee stays with us.

[Dyched]

Maybe you've overlooked that fact that they are our relegation rivals and have unlimited funding. They can unsettle us massively by talking up big money deals for our key players, and could even afford to buy our best players and not even play them in order to fatally weaken us.
In fact the former is exactly what I would be doing in their position.

Weaken us all the want, they’ll still have to catch someone out of the bottom 3.

[nil_desperandum]

The flaw in that masterplan is that they could just buy far superior players to ours without the need to take ours, to be honest with the way ours are performing Newcastle will be desperately praying that mee stays with us.

You missed the bit where I said simply talking up their interest in signing him on a big money deal unsettles him, our plans and our team. Ultimately they don't need to sign him, (as you said they could sign better), but by unsettling him and potentially disrupting us they can significantly weaken us. You could argue that something is affecting Mee's game now. Is it transfer speculation?
(Who knows?)

[nil_desperandum]

Weaken us all the want, they’ll still have to catch someone out of the bottom 3.

They'll almost certainly finish above Norwich and Watford, so it just needs one more.

[AlargeClaret]

Sorry but that is absolute tripe

He’s always had a mistake in him and it’s becoming more frequent , he’s never had pace or goals ( per se) . And his distribution is mediocre at best .Though , as a standard bearer of the “ Burnley way” and club captain he appears immune to criticism .He’s an unshakable brave heart alright but sentimental whimsy has no place in a team as poor as ours .

[SGr]

There’s only so many times I can watch him hitting aimless balls towards the corner flag this season. Awful.

You’ve been watching that for the better part of a decade. Difference is we had more than that once upon a time.

[Jakubclaret]

You missed the bit where I said simply talking up their interest in signing him on a big money deal unsettles him, our plans and our team. Ultimately they don't need to sign him, (as you said they could sign better), but by unsettling him and potentially disrupting us they can significantly weaken us. You could argue that something is affecting Mee's game now. Is it transfer speculation?
(Who knows?)

Mees past it I don’t know why he’s dithering over a new contract nobody else in the PL would take him maybe a Norwich or a Watford at a push.

[davetheclaret]

I dont think its in central defence our problems lie. I guess our two CH's are becoming disillusioned with our failure to take chances, and the pressure and cover they are getting from midfield

Central midfield is where our biggest problem is the back four gets very little cover, they don't close down in midfield, they block very little and they give the ball away to much, and therefore putting the back four under pressure.

[TsarBomba]

We were a distant second best to a struggling Leeds team that started Adam Forshaw and Stuart Dallas in the middle.

The same Adam Forshaw that didn’t play a single game last season, and only 7 games in the Championship the season before.

And the same Stuart Dallas who despite being incredibly versatile, has only played 1 game in his last 50 as a central midfielder.

There are no more excuses to make. Today’s result, and more importantly the performance, is incredibly telling.

A number of players are no longer putting the required effort in. When that happens, the outcome is inevitable. It’s either relegation, or a change of manager.

[Murger]

We were a distant second best to a struggling Leeds team that started Adam Forshaw and Stuart Dallas in the middle.

The same Adam Forshaw that didn’t play a single game last season, and only 7 games in the Championship the season before.

And the same Stuart Dallas who despite being incredibly versatile, has only played 1 game in his last 50 as a central midfielder.

There are no more excuses to make. Today’s result, and more importantly the performance, is incredibly telling.

A number of players are no longer putting the required effort in. When that happens, the outcome is inevitable. It’s either relegation, or a change of manager.

If the former happens, then so should the latter.

[TheFamilyCat]

Mees past it I don’t know why he’s dithering over a new contract nobody else in the PL would take him maybe a Norwich or a Watford at a push.

Is he dithering? I've not read anything regarding a contract offer. As alreadtly mentioned, if he's not been offered a new deal, this could be affecting his performances.

[Jakubclaret]

Is he dithering? I've not read anything regarding a contract offer. As alreadtly mentioned, if he's not been offered a new deal, this could be affecting his performances.

I lost respect for mee after the plane incident but disregarding that & on a pure football level & opinion Collins should start ahead of him irrespective of JT leaving for what’s left until, a valid arguments exists he should be learning alongside the better of the 2 defenders in PL matches.

[TheFamilyCat]

I lost respect for mee after the plane incident but disregarding that & on a pure football level & opinion Collins should start ahead of him irrespective of JT leaving for what’s left until, a valid arguments exists he should be learning alongside the better of the 2 defenders in PL matches.

Firstly, I'm amazed we got to post #42 before someone mentioned his position on racism. I'm much less amazed that it was a melon like you that brought it up.

Secondly, what the **** has that got to do with my post that you've quoted and are presumably responding to (or the post of yours that I replied to)?

[Jakubclaret]

Firstly, I'm amazed we got to post #42 before someone mentioned his position on racism. I'm much less amazed that it was a melon like you that brought it up.

Secondly, what the **** has that got to do with my post that you've quoted and are presumably responding to (or the post of yours that I replied to)?

If you leave insinuations of racism aside & debate whether Collins should be starting ahead it’s a debate I’m interested in having.

[buzzclarets79]

I just don't get why nufc would be interested in an aging limited footballer in mee, he only fits in Burnley,s style of play

Newcastle aren't going to be able to attract a real world class CB in Jan because of a number of factors, not least being in the bottom 3 for one.

Mee and Tarks would be excellent signings for them due to them being OOC in the summer, they can double their wages if not more, give them one last real pay day with a 2/3 yr contract and then by the time they've reached the end of them deals they'll of got better CB in as they'll be higher up in 2/3 seasons time.

[TheFamilyCat]

If you leave insinuations of racism aside & debate whether Collins should be starting ahead it’s a debate I’m interested in having.

No insinuation needed.

Let's go back to the start. You said Mee was dithering over a contract. I questioned this as to my knowledge he hasn't been offered one (and agreed with another poster who suggested uncertainty over next year could be affecting his performances).

So, before we debate Collins starting, I'd be keen to know if there is any information on Mee's contract offer available or whether you made up the "dithering".

As for Collins, he is clearly the future and pleasingly has not looked out of place when he has played. Should he be starting? I'd say yes, but based on what I know about who will or won't be at the club next year, I would play him instead of Tarkowski.

[Jakubclaret]

No insinuation needed.

Let's go back to the start. You said Mee was dithering over a contract. I questioned this as to my knowledge he hasn't been offered one (and agreed with another poster who suggested uncertainty over next year could be affecting his performances).

So, before we debate Collins starting, I'd be keen to know if there is any information on Mee's contract offer available or whether you made up the "dithering".

As for Collins, he is clearly the future and pleasingly has not looked out of place when he has played. Should he be starting? I'd say yes, but based on what I know about who will or won't be at the club next year, I would play him instead of Tarkowski.

When you start banging on about the R word & calling me part of the fruit family with the melon, i no longer wish to engage certainly not with the likes of you, I realise people are in a bad mood with the footballing start to 2022, good evening find another person to attempt an argument with please I’m not interested.

[TheFamilyCat]

When you start banging on about the R word & calling me part of the fruit family with the melon, i no longer wish to engage certainly not with the likes of you, I realise people are in a bad mood with the footballing start to 2022, good evening find another person to attempt an argument with please I’m not interested.

Weird, you said you were keen to debate Collins starting.