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by evensteadiereddie » Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:26 pm
KRBFC wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:17 pm
Don't even respond to him.
If people can't see why fans of a team bottom of the league aren't happy at the lack of improvement in the squad, quite frankly that is their issue.
It's the same posters over and over and over again, they will argue black is white just to argue, they have nothing else better to do.
Nothing to do with me being happy or not, I can't control who comes in or doesn't but I am interested in the "numerous" names that the likes of newcastle would have brought in to improve our squad.
So far we've had a lad that's moved between two clubs connected with Tony Bloom - a non-starter - and a lad from Lincoln. Vey impressive...
I have a lot else better to do, like going to the Turf on Saturday....you ?
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by Spijed » Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:28 pm
burnleymik wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:26 pm
Are we still trying for Barkley or is it stand down time?
Unfortunately trying and getting are now probably a million miles apart. I'd say near impossible.
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by arise_sir_charge » Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:29 pm
Of all the tedious discussions that occur at this time of year, the “well who would you have signed” tops the lot.
It takes no account of the fact that as a club there is millions of pounds spent on staff who’s job it is to deal with all that and places the imaginary responsibility on a bloke that’s probably just finished back shift at Veka!
Its then topped off with the follow up argument when people suggest players……..“it’s not football manager”.
So people are called out either way.
Tedious beyond belief.
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by tiger76 » Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:30 pm
KRBFC wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:25 pm
Boden and Alex James think it's a disappointing window too, go cry at them.
Chris Boden
@bodenknights
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38m
They wanted two or three before Wood, so to end up with just a Wood replacement would be hugely disappointing
Alex James
@AlexJamesSport
Frustrating all round. The creativity/pace in midfield is not a new problem either, feel like we've been talking about it forever!
Hard to disagree with their opinions TBH. And James is 100% correct the lack of creativity & pace in midfield has been talked about forever.
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by boatshed bill » Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:31 pm
arise_sir_charge wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:29 pm
Of all the tedious discussions that occur at this time of year, the “well who would you have signed” tops the lot.
It takes no account of the fact that as a club there is millions of pounds spent on staff who’s job it is to deal with all that and places the imaginary responsibility on a bloke that’s probably just finished back shift at Veka!
Its then topped off with the follow up argument when people suggest players……..“it’s not football manager”.
So people are called out either way.
Tedious beyond belief.
It's a pity that these days people can't just enjoy football for what it is (or should be)...a game, entertainment.
Remember that?
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by kentonclaret » Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:32 pm
tiger76 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:23 pm
At least he'd offer something different to JBG.
And I'm genuinely confused what our transfer strategy is, I thought with the summer captures of Collins, Cornet & Roberts we were aiming for a more youthful approach, and also looking to develop players who in a year or two we might be able to make a profit on, and then reinvest that profit back into the squad.
But in this window we've seemingly put all our eggs in the Orsic and Weghorst baskets, one didn't come off, and one did, but both are nearing 30, and are unlikely to have much if any sell-on value.
So in the event of relegation we'll be left with an almighty rebuild, and the dire prospect of dealing with a large drop in income, plus servicing our debt.
The size of the rebuild needed at Burnley will probably require planning permission
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by Papabendi » Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:34 pm
tiger76 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:30 pm
Hard to disagree with their opinions TBH. And James is 100% correct the lack of creativity & pace in midfield has been talked about forever.
Money talks and nothing has changed on that front
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by spt_claret » Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:34 pm
Yep. And read 2019-20.
4 people have corrected you.
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by tiger76 » Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:36 pm
kentonclaret wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:32 pm
The size of the rebuild needed at Burnley will probably require planning permission
Indeed it probably will, but the writing has been on the wall for at least a couple of years, and we've constantly kicked the can down the road, unfortunately it now appears we've reached the end of the road.
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by evensteadiereddie » Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:36 pm
Possibly, sircharge, but isn't it just as tedious reading posts by berks who do nothing but criticise the club, blame individuals for their failure to capture replacements and then, when challenged to say what they think the solutions might be, have absolutely feck all to say.
I think it's reasonable for folk who have done nothing but slag the club off to be asked to offer their alternatives.
Anyway, they can't, it is what it is so let's hope the lads can confound the critics and thump Watford.
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by LaLigaClaret » Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:37 pm
I don't doubt that the club really tried hard to get others in but ultimately people who are collecting a wage for their expertise are judged on results and outcomes. We may stay up and hopefully we do but if at the end of the season we go down then those job it was to improve the squad will have failed and that is how they will be judged. Out situation next season if we are in the Championship will be extremely difficult and I am sure there will be consequences which will be even more painful. This was the season in the situation we are in to have strengthened and to have invested more in players and to have not done so...... Lets hope we can play out of our skins, fight for every ball and battle till the end and hope and pray its enough.
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by NewClaret » Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:37 pm
Don’t know how true it is but hearing some very positive things on Barkley.
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by Commy » Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:38 pm
We are doing this the wrong way round. Tony should write his welcome reports and give them to the club. As long as he has shredded the old ones
. We don't want mistakes.
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by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:38 pm
evensteadiereddie wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:36 pm
Possibly, sircharge, but isn't it just as tedious reading posts by berks who do nothing but criticise the club, blame individuals for their failure to capture replacements and then, when challenged to say what they think the solutions might be, have absolutely feck all to say.
I think it's reasonable for folk who have done nothing but slag the club off to be asked to offer their alternatives.
Anyway, they can't, it is what it is so let's hope the lads can confound the critics and thump Watford.
Classic.
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by jackmiggins » Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:38 pm
Problem is, any decent teenager who has two decent games is valued at multi millions immediately! Perhaps we need to bring on some two minute wonders and sell them on ASAP?
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by Quicknick » Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:38 pm
spt_claret wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:34 pm
Yep. And read 2019-20.
4 people have corrected you.
I was referring to the goals he scored before he came to Burnley. Had a late flourish in his career.
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by kentonclaret » Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:39 pm
tiger76 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:36 pm
Indeed it probably will, but the writing has been on the wall for at least a couple of years, and we've constantly kicked the can down the road, unfortunately it now appears we've reached the end of the road.
Which is more or less exactly what I have been posting on here for the last 3/4 transfer windows.
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by RVclaret » Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:39 pm
NewClaret wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:37 pm
Don’t know how true it is but hearing some very positive things on Barkley.
Where you seeing that aside from that muppet Brad Jones on Twitter
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by colne-claret » Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:39 pm
NewClaret wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:37 pm
Don’t know how true it is but hearing some very positive things on Barkley.
Seen that dotted about on twitter but not really from any credible sources. I hope it's true though.
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by gandhisflipflop » Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:40 pm
NewClaret wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:37 pm
Don’t know how true it is but hearing some very positive things on Barkley.
Source?
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by LaLigaClaret » Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:40 pm
evensteadiereddie wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:36 pm
Possibly, sircharge, but isn't it just as tedious reading posts by berks who do nothing but criticise the club, blame individuals for their failure to capture replacements and then, when challenged to say what they think the solutions might be, have absolutely feck all to say.
I think it's reasonable for folk who have done nothing but slag the club off to be asked to offer their alternatives.
Anyway, they can't, it is what it is so let's hope the lads can confound the critics and thump Watford.
I beg to differ given it was me who had the 'Nads to offer alternatives a little earler.
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by evensteadiereddie » Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:41 pm
Indeed.
So "numerous" means one in your book, does it ?
Enjoy the game on Saturday. Oh, hang on...
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by Conroy92 » Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:42 pm
Barkley is a glimmer of hope.
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by evensteadiereddie » Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:44 pm
LaLigaClaret wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:40 pm
I beg to differ given it was me who had the 'Nads to offer alternatives a little earler.
And absolutely nobody said you hadn't or didn't. LLC !
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by ashtonlongsider » Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:44 pm
I'm not being wise after the event as my expectations weren't very high. January is traditionally a difficult time to do business and this window has proved no exception, not just for us but for the majority of clubs. The positive, for me, apart from the signing of Weghorst, is the ambition of Alan Pace to try going that extra mile. I find that encouraging moving forward.
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by dibraidio » Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:46 pm
Conroy92 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:42 pm
Barkley is a glimmer of hope.
Have only seen links to Barkley going to Everton to join up with Lampard again . Has that fallen through?
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by ClaretTony » Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:47 pm
He scored all his goals in 2018/19 and 2019/20 in the Bundesliga, not 2 Bundesliga.
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by TheFamilyCat » Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:47 pm
NewClaret wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:37 pm
Don’t know how true it is but hearing some very positive things on Barkley.
Hope not. Everyone who has posted on the "rate the transfer window" thread will have to go back and change their marks.
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by holycustard » Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:48 pm
Chelsea midfielder Ross Barkley has reportedly become open to the idea of a move to Burnley in the January transfer window.
The Clarets caught eyes last week by allegedly declaring their interest in Barkley, who has been limited to one substitute appearance in the Premier League so far this season for the Blues.
According to Ekrem Konur, the Englishman is considering a move to Turf Moor in January after struggling for first-team opportunities in West London.
The reporter continues, saying the move would likely be a loan deal at this stage, after Barkley spent last season with Aston Villa.
The former Everton man made 24 appearances for Dean Smith's side, netting four goals and providing an assist, while his Chelsea record now stands at 11 goals and 11 assists in 89 outings.
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by Somethingfishy » Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:50 pm
ashtonlongsider wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:44 pm
I'm not being wise after the event as my expectations weren't very high. January is traditionally a difficult time to do business and this window has proved no exception, not just for us but for the majority of clubs. The positive, for me, apart from the signing of Weghorst, is the ambition of Alan Pace to try going that extra mile. I find that encouraging moving forward.
I agree he does seem to be going for the right calibre of player. However, if we are relegated he will be truly banging his head against a brick wall if he keep shopping in the same market. Add to that we will likely lose some of our better players then i think his powers of persuasion will be stretched to the limit.
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by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:51 pm
evensteadiereddie wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:41 pm
Indeed.
So "numerous" means one in your book, does it ?
Enjoy the game on Saturday. Oh, hang on...
Haha ok
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by ClaretMov » Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:52 pm
holycustard wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:48 pm
Chelsea midfielder Ross Barkley has reportedly become open to the idea of a move to Burnley in the January transfer window.
The Clarets caught eyes last week by allegedly declaring their interest in Barkley, who has been limited to one substitute appearance in the Premier League so far this season for the Blues.
According to Ekrem Konur, the Englishman is considering a move to Turf Moor in January after struggling for first-team opportunities in West London.
The reporter continues, saying the move would likely be a loan deal at this stage, after Barkley spent last season with Aston Villa.
The former Everton man made 24 appearances for Dean Smith's side, netting four goals and providing an assist, while his Chelsea record now stands at 11 goals and 11 assists in 89 outings.
This Would be one hell of a deal, he's in New York at the minute
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by warksclaret » Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:53 pm
We knew Orsic was a NO on Friday night. Still left 3 days to follow up the Plan B and short list candidates. By contrast Frank Lampard only appointed mid morning and looks like two very big names on verge of signing that I am sure will be influential. Thats what I call being decisive and savvy
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by Tribesmen » Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:55 pm
Anyway time for bed as work in the morning , so hope we have something to report when i wake up .
Good news please
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by jedi_master » Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:55 pm
If Barkley joins I’ll be absolutely buzzing. He would be perfect but I think would result in a slight formation change (back to 4-5-1 ala 17-18 with him in the Hendrick role and Cornet wide).
Please please please!
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by Rileybobs » Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:55 pm
warksclaret wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:53 pm
We knew Orsic was a NO on Friday night. Still left 3 days to follow up the Plan B and short list candidates. By contrast Frank Lampard only appointed mid morning and looks like two very big names on verge of signing that I am sure will be influential. Thats what I call being decisive and savvy
What has Frank Lampard’s appointment got to do with anything?
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by superdimitri » Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:56 pm
warksclaret wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:53 pm
We knew Orsic was a NO on Friday night. Still left 3 days to follow up the Plan B and short list candidates. By contrast Frank Lampard only appointed mid morning and looks like two very big names on verge of signing that I am sure will be influential. Thats what I call being decisive and savvy
Yep, the fact a deal fell through (or has done in the past) is not the club's fault really. What is their fault is not lining up a backup target (or two)?
We saw this in the past, but we can't afford to keep doing it again and again, as it catches up with us when we don't bring enough talent in.
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by NewClaret » Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:57 pm
warksclaret wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:53 pm
We knew Orsic was a NO on Friday night. Still left 3 days to follow up the Plan B and short list candidates. By contrast Frank Lampard only appointed mid morning and looks like two very big names on verge of signing that I am sure will be influential. Thats what I call being decisive and savvy
VdB has been awful for United when I’ve seen him. A Spurs fan told me the same about Alli in the last three games before being dropped (when we were linked I spoke to him, can’t say I’ve seen him play in years personally).
I think they’re both very good players but will need to play their way in to form from what I’ve seen/heard.
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by CaptainKirk » Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:57 pm
You said it yourself:
Everton
Lampard
Big names
We are Burnley
Sean Dyche
No name, no clout and relatively no money.
We can't compete and never will be able to.
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by gawthorpe_view » Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:57 pm
ClaretMov wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:52 pm
This Would be one hell of a deal, he's in New York at the minute
Fire up the fax machine!
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by Awayfromburnley » Mon Jan 31, 2022 9:00 pm
I know Ross and this is a non starter.
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by joey13 » Mon Jan 31, 2022 9:00 pm
Another reason why I can’t be bothered with this site anymore
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by duncandisorderly » Mon Jan 31, 2022 9:00 pm
When we did that 4-4-1-1 with Wood and Hendrick as the 1's, who was the wide players in the 4? I can't even remember.....
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by ClaretMov » Mon Jan 31, 2022 9:00 pm
Unplug it, turn out the lights and go home nothing to see hear
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by warksclaret » Mon Jan 31, 2022 9:01 pm
Rileybobs wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:55 pm
What has Frank Lampard’s appointment got to do with anything?
Because he probably told them he wanted both players and it happened-as I say being decisive. I doubt both are names the club was buying anyway with a manager coming on board. He will have asked for both since being interviewed and they did the rest
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by NewClaret » Mon Jan 31, 2022 9:03 pm
Not twitter or anything to do with it.
I heard this morning we had several medicals booked today. No idea what this means as I assume we do them ourselves? Also not sure if WW’s was one of those as there are conflicting reports about that.
I’ve only just heard on Barkley and to be fair was only passed that since the twitter rumours, so it may not be true.
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by Rileybobs » Mon Jan 31, 2022 9:03 pm
warksclaret wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 9:01 pm
Because he probably told them he wanted both players and it happened-as I say being decisive. I doubt both are names the club was buying anyway with a manager coming on board. He will have asked for both since being interviewed and they did the rest
You don’t know that. You don’t know if Lampard had any say whatsoever in Everton’s signings. And in any case, Everton can hardly be used as a yardstick to measure Burnley’s success in the transfer market.
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by IanMcL » Mon Jan 31, 2022 9:05 pm
All quiet on the North West Front...or is it....???
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