Paul Tierney abysmal

This Forum is the main messageboard to discuss all things Claret and Blue and beyond
KRBFC
Posts: 18018
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:18 am
Been Liked: 3784 times
Has Liked: 1071 times

Re: Paul Tierney abysmal

Post by KRBFC » Thu May 19, 2022 10:26 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 10:23 pm
In fairness, I called the foul throw in real time. But that didn’t cost us the goal. What it is is another example of inept officiating though. There are numerous foul throws every game that go unpunished.
Agree, everyone pretty much missed it and it was minutes before the goal, not something VAR would ever check for.

I thought the Lowton decision was harsh, the modern game is soft though and he did fly in with force.

People who want a penalty for handball are just flat out biased in telling us the ball hit the hand, it's impossible to tell if the ball hits the arm, so how can the referee possibly give a penalty.

Roosterbooster
Posts: 2583
Joined: Sun May 01, 2016 6:22 pm
Been Liked: 688 times
Has Liked: 361 times

Re: Paul Tierney abysmal

Post by Roosterbooster » Thu May 19, 2022 10:26 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 10:09 pm
Fair enough, as long as you weren’t saying it was a red!
No sane person on this planet thinks it's a red
This user liked this post: summitclaret

Devils_Advocate
Posts: 12345
Joined: Sun Oct 30, 2016 2:43 pm
Been Liked: 5202 times
Has Liked: 920 times

Re: Paul Tierney abysmal

Post by Devils_Advocate » Thu May 19, 2022 10:29 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 10:22 pm
My opinion is that far more VAR decisions are given against ‘teams like us’ than larger sides. I would imagine that Burnley are not alone feeling that way (I would guess a lot of the smaller teams encounter this strange phenomenon also).

The issue is on this site you cannot say that without being jumped on as being a tin hat wearer, I was merely warning some of the people above me to look out for it as they might not have been aware of what some of our less kind members on here are like.
There's a difference between thinking decisions go against us and thinking there is some genuine bias or corruption. You're one of the most sensible posters on here but i've noticed you really let your emotions get the better of you on match day and go really OTT about this stuff

I get its a tense and passionate situation so its understandable and Im probably best letting it go but IMO its best not to make snarky comments like you did if you want a decent discussion

Anyhow I think youre a good poster on here so will respectfully agree to disagree on this subject

Belial
Posts: 1678
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:10 pm
Been Liked: 381 times
Has Liked: 320 times
Location: On a crazy train

Re: Paul Tierney abysmal

Post by Belial » Thu May 19, 2022 10:29 pm

Roosterbooster wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 10:26 pm
No sane person on this planet thinks it's a red
Twitter is full of fans of other clubs saying it's never a red (and also that if it was a pen v Spurs then it was a pen tonight too)

Belgianclaret
Posts: 2515
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:41 am
Been Liked: 932 times
Has Liked: 165 times

Re: Paul Tierney abysmal

Post by Belgianclaret » Thu May 19, 2022 10:30 pm

He annoyed me, especially in the second half
This user liked this post: longsidepies

Inchy
Posts: 2828
Joined: Sat Aug 13, 2016 5:32 pm
Been Liked: 1332 times
Has Liked: 95 times

Re: Paul Tierney abysmal

Post by Inchy » Thu May 19, 2022 10:31 pm

When I put myself in the mind of Tierney I can understand why it was a red…….because I’m in the mind of a c*nt
These 2 users liked this post: TheFamilyCat Guller Bull

jedi_master
Posts: 7104
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:33 pm
Been Liked: 3580 times
Has Liked: 1023 times
Location: Chesterfield

Re: Paul Tierney abysmal

Post by jedi_master » Thu May 19, 2022 10:31 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 10:29 pm
There's a difference between thinking decisions go against us and thinking there is some genuine bias or corruption. You're one of the most sensible posters on here but i've noticed you really let your emotions get the better of you on match day and go really OTT about this stuff

I get its a tense and passionate situation so its understandable and Im probably best letting it go but IMO its best not to make snarky comments like you did if you want a decent discussion

Anyhow I think youre a good poster on here so will respectfully agree to disagree on this subject
Believe me, I am a very emotional person when it comes to football so I won’t disagree on that. I’ll always agree to disagree, happy to debate but never want an argument with a Claret. Virtual handshake given :D
This user liked this post: Devils_Advocate

Rileybobs
Posts: 16689
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:37 pm
Been Liked: 6901 times
Has Liked: 1471 times
Location: Leeds

Re: Paul Tierney abysmal

Post by Rileybobs » Thu May 19, 2022 10:33 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 10:26 pm
Agree, everyone pretty much missed it and it was minutes before the goal, not something VAR would ever check for.

I thought the Lowton decision was harsh, the modern game is soft though and he did fly in with force.

People who want a penalty for handball are just flat out biased in telling us the ball hit the hand, it's impossible to tell if the ball hits the arm, so how can the referee possibly give a penalty.
It was only about 15 seconds before the goal, but they gained absolutely no advantage from it so we would have been lucky to have got away with it.

To be honest, I think it’s pretty certain that the ball hits his arm, but unfortunately the camera angles giving unobstructed views were poor so the VAR can probably rightly claim that it’s inconclusive. But that is obviously going to stick in the craw after the penalty given against Barnes. So it’s reasonable that fans take the view that all VAR does is give a different official the chance to subconsciously give the subjective decisions to the bigger sides.
Last edited by Rileybobs on Thu May 19, 2022 10:34 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Steve1956
Posts: 17178
Joined: Fri Dec 30, 2016 1:57 pm
Been Liked: 6463 times
Has Liked: 2896 times
Location: Fife

Re: Paul Tierney abysmal

Post by Steve1956 » Thu May 19, 2022 10:33 pm

Ric_C wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 10:24 pm
20220519_222126.jpg
Shocking that the goal was allowed to stand...was the F..King linesman a blindman?

KRBFC
Posts: 18018
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:18 am
Been Liked: 3784 times
Has Liked: 1071 times

Re: Paul Tierney abysmal

Post by KRBFC » Thu May 19, 2022 10:35 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 10:33 pm
It was only about 15 seconds before the goal, but they gained absolutely no advantage from it so it would have been lucky to have got away with it.

To be honest, I think it’s pretty certain that the ball hits his arm, but unfortunately the camera angles giving unobstructed views were poor so the VAR can probably rightly claim that it’s inconclusive. But that is obviously going to stick in the craw after the penalty given against Barnes. So it’s reasonable that fans take the view that all VAR does is give a different official the chance to subconsciously give the subjective decisions to the bigger sides.
We definitely needed a different angle, I saw it 10 times and it was pretty inconclusive, I couldn't say for certain it hit the arm at all. The ball didn't change speed or direction if it hit his arm.

Rileybobs
Posts: 16689
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:37 pm
Been Liked: 6901 times
Has Liked: 1471 times
Location: Leeds

Re: Paul Tierney abysmal

Post by Rileybobs » Thu May 19, 2022 10:36 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 10:35 pm
We definitely needed a different angle, I saw it 10 times and it was pretty inconclusive, I couldn't say for certain it hit the arm at all. The ball didn't change speed or direction if it hit his arm.
You could see the blue sleeve ripple where the ball connected. But maybe I’m seeing what I wanted to see. I guess if the ref gives it VAR doesn’t overturn it - which basically sums up the issue.

jedi_master
Posts: 7104
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:33 pm
Been Liked: 3580 times
Has Liked: 1023 times
Location: Chesterfield

Re: Paul Tierney abysmal

Post by jedi_master » Thu May 19, 2022 10:37 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 10:35 pm
We definitely needed a different angle, I saw it 10 times and it was pretty inconclusive, I couldn't say for certain it hit the arm at all. The ball didn't change speed or direction if it hit his arm.
Why was there no other angle though (compared to Spurs)? I am not saying this is evidence of corruption either, I’m genuinely quizzical as to why that is in this day and age with a million angle ordinarily shown.

I concur, it’s not clear it did - the ball appears to possibly change direction but you cannot be certain from that angle that it’s his arm.

Rileybobs
Posts: 16689
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:37 pm
Been Liked: 6901 times
Has Liked: 1471 times
Location: Leeds

Re: Paul Tierney abysmal

Post by Rileybobs » Thu May 19, 2022 10:41 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 10:37 pm
Why was there no other angle though (compared to Spurs)? I am not saying this is evidence of corruption either, I’m genuinely quizzical as to why that is in this day and age with a million angle ordinarily shown.

I concur, it’s not clear it did - the ball appears to possibly change direction but you cannot be certain from that angle that it’s his arm.
It was very crowded around the ball.

KRBFC
Posts: 18018
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:18 am
Been Liked: 3784 times
Has Liked: 1071 times

Re: Paul Tierney abysmal

Post by KRBFC » Thu May 19, 2022 10:41 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 10:36 pm
You could see the blue sleeve ripple where the ball connected. But maybe I’m seeing what I wanted to see. I guess if the ref gives it VAR doesn’t overturn it - which basically sums up the issue.
I think VAR would overturn it, it's a similar situation to the Collins goal against Soton where VAR were looking for Cork offside, I watched it 10 times and couldn't tell you if Cork touched the ball or not, so VAR had no conclusive evidence to overturn it.

I don't think VAR could give a penalty for handball without conclusive evidence the ball actually hit the arm, especially when even if it did hit the arm, the decision would be soft (like the Barnes handball). If it conclusively hit the arm, the decision should be the same as the Barnes one imo.

Rileybobs
Posts: 16689
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:37 pm
Been Liked: 6901 times
Has Liked: 1471 times
Location: Leeds

Re: Paul Tierney abysmal

Post by Rileybobs » Thu May 19, 2022 10:43 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 10:41 pm
I think VAR would overturn it, it's a similar situation to the Collins goal against Soton where VAR were looking for Cork offside, I watched it 10 times and couldn't tell you if Cork touched the ball or not, so VAR had no conclusive evidence to overturn it.

I don't think VAR could give a penalty for handball without conclusive evidence the ball actually hit the arm, especially when even if it did hit the arm, the decision would be soft (like the Barnes handball). If it conclusively hit the arm, the decision should be the same as the Barnes one imo.
But there wasn’t conclusive proof that it wasn’t handball, so if Tierney had given it the penalty would, or certainly should, have stood.

Whatsupdoc
Posts: 107
Joined: Sat Jan 23, 2016 8:47 pm
Been Liked: 51 times
Has Liked: 13 times

Re: Paul Tierney abysmal

Post by Whatsupdoc » Thu May 19, 2022 10:45 pm

Does anybody know whether Lawton’s red card can be rescinded? (Before Sunday)

KRBFC
Posts: 18018
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:18 am
Been Liked: 3784 times
Has Liked: 1071 times

Re: Paul Tierney abysmal

Post by KRBFC » Thu May 19, 2022 10:45 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 10:43 pm
But there wasn’t conclusive proof that it wasn’t handball, so if Tierney had given it the penalty would, or certainly should, have stood.
You're right, an interesting situation, I wonder what would've actually happened. Officials giving penalties for handball when nobody knows if the ball hit the arm is a terrible look though.

Sozturf7
Posts: 410
Joined: Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:48 am
Been Liked: 89 times

Re: Paul Tierney abysmal

Post by Sozturf7 » Thu May 19, 2022 10:46 pm

Can we? Should we? appeal the red card.

ElectroClaret
Posts: 17774
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 7:07 pm
Been Liked: 4044 times
Has Liked: 1846 times

Re: Paul Tierney abysmal

Post by ElectroClaret » Thu May 19, 2022 10:47 pm

Sozturf7 wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 10:46 pm
Can we? Should we? appeal the red card.
Why not? Nowt to lose.

summitclaret
Posts: 3891
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:39 pm
Been Liked: 826 times
Has Liked: 1307 times
Location: burnley

Re: Paul Tierney abysmal

Post by summitclaret » Thu May 19, 2022 10:49 pm

Whatsupdoc wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 10:45 pm
Does anybody know whether Lawton’s red card can be rescinded? (Before Sunday)
If we don't appeal that, I will be amazed. Can't believe MJ didn't say so. Just imagine what JBG is thinking about Robinson's alleged legal tackle.

jdrobbo
Posts: 9205
Joined: Sun Dec 27, 2015 8:01 pm
Been Liked: 4800 times
Has Liked: 943 times
Location: Leeds

Re: Paul Tierney abysmal

Post by jdrobbo » Thu May 19, 2022 10:53 pm

Milltown1882 wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 9:13 pm
I’ll skip jdrobbo deleting my rating like he does every week. Tierney is absolutely abysmal and can’t wait to give Villa a free kick at every opportunity. 4 all around for him.
Milltown, I’m going to call you out on this…please explain your comments or offer just one, a single one occasion as to when I’ve deleted your ratings? Best wishes fella, but you’re out of line with your accusations. 👍🏻

Milltown1882
Posts: 3063
Joined: Mon Nov 28, 2016 5:47 pm
Been Liked: 1102 times
Has Liked: 854 times

Re: Paul Tierney abysmal

Post by Milltown1882 » Thu May 19, 2022 11:26 pm

jdrobbo wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 10:53 pm
Milltown, I’m going to call you out on this…please explain your comments or offer just one, a single one occasion as to when I’ve deleted your ratings? Best wishes fella, but you’re out of line with your accusations. 👍🏻
It was a playful joke. But Sunday against spurs when I gave friend straight 0s was the last time you did. UTC

THEWELLERNUT70
Posts: 3382
Joined: Mon Jan 25, 2016 11:13 pm
Been Liked: 997 times
Has Liked: 2007 times

Re: Paul Tierney abysmal

Post by THEWELLERNUT70 » Thu May 19, 2022 11:28 pm

In other news Shergar is missing

We just need Oliver or to bring Lee Mason out of VAR retirement for the final game to complete the set

jdrobbo
Posts: 9205
Joined: Sun Dec 27, 2015 8:01 pm
Been Liked: 4800 times
Has Liked: 943 times
Location: Leeds

Re: Paul Tierney abysmal

Post by jdrobbo » Thu May 19, 2022 11:33 pm

Milltown1882 wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 11:26 pm
It was a playful joke. But Sunday against spurs when I gave friend straight 0s was the last time you did. UTC
Accept the joke but then you’ve accused me again of deleting your post. Can I suggest you (if you want to go there) digging out a few RTR threads and looking at other ratings. There are many people who rate 0 throughout the season and their posts are still there to be seen. Is it because I run the feature and am a moderator that leads you to make such assumptions?

THEWELLERNUT70
Posts: 3382
Joined: Mon Jan 25, 2016 11:13 pm
Been Liked: 997 times
Has Liked: 2007 times

Re: Paul Tierney abysmal

Post by THEWELLERNUT70 » Thu May 19, 2022 11:34 pm

As I've posted many a time over the years the PL and PGMOL are a cartel that's why they won't import the best refs, it's a closed shop with the odd one who slips through the net

SGr
Posts: 4412
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:46 pm
Been Liked: 1022 times
Has Liked: 307 times

Re: Paul Tierney abysmal

Post by SGr » Thu May 19, 2022 11:35 pm

This would’ve been a minor inconvenience if we were 15th and hadn’t lost to Norwich away 2-0.

If we go down, it’s because we’ve been a disgrace in the games that mattered.

Rileybobs
Posts: 16689
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:37 pm
Been Liked: 6901 times
Has Liked: 1471 times
Location: Leeds

Re: Paul Tierney abysmal

Post by Rileybobs » Thu May 19, 2022 11:36 pm

What I want to know is how bad a referee must Ashington46 have been to have not made it to the ‘elite level’?

Just joshing A46.

THEWELLERNUT70
Posts: 3382
Joined: Mon Jan 25, 2016 11:13 pm
Been Liked: 997 times
Has Liked: 2007 times

Re: Paul Tierney abysmal

Post by THEWELLERNUT70 » Thu May 19, 2022 11:37 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 10:03 pm
Nonsense about Barnes nothing there at all
But this fool of a ref couldn't even get throw ins and corners right
And as for the sending off ,Matt played the ball and as he slid in with forward momentum, caught the man
Let's not forget a couple of weeks ago that a Villa player got away with a much worse (shin high) follow through on McNeil that didn't even receive a yellow card!

summitclaret
Posts: 3891
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:39 pm
Been Liked: 826 times
Has Liked: 1307 times
Location: burnley

Re: Paul Tierney abysmal

Post by summitclaret » Thu May 19, 2022 11:37 pm

Actually, if we go down it will be because Bamford got a lucky goal months ago.

Silkyskills1
Posts: 5841
Joined: Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:39 pm
Been Liked: 1678 times
Has Liked: 2513 times
Location: Rawtenstall

Re: Paul Tierney abysmal

Post by Silkyskills1 » Thu May 19, 2022 11:56 pm

Disgraceful from Tierney and VAR. The handball in the second half was clear( certainly by Sunday's example). He was blowing his whistle before Villa players hit the ground. Extra 3 mins plus at the end( didn't take that to decide the sending off). We're all fans but with extremely poor authority on and off the pitch the game is wrecked.

dsr
Posts: 15139
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:47 pm
Been Liked: 4549 times
Has Liked: 2241 times

Re: Paul Tierney abysmal

Post by dsr » Fri May 20, 2022 12:08 am

Sozturf7 wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 10:46 pm
Can we? Should we? appeal the red card.
I don't think they can be appealed now, can they? It's assumed that once 2 refs have seen it on video, they can't possibly be wrong.

It was Tierney, of course, who didn't send off Kane for his legbreaker on Robertson. But there were several differences between the two, of course. One, Kane went high while Lowton was on the ground; two, Kane followed through the man on full slide while Lowton had more or less stopped; three, Kane was late and missed the ball and Lowton didn't. But of course all that was overriden by point four, Kane is England captain and Lowton isn't.

It's not corruption, but it's certainly incompetence.

blake's wand
Posts: 167
Joined: Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:05 pm
Been Liked: 54 times

Re: Paul Tierney abysmal

Post by blake's wand » Fri May 20, 2022 12:20 am

Think the red card is a terrible decision. Clearly hit the ball first - would expect to be overturned

FCBurnley
Posts: 9696
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:56 pm
Been Liked: 1967 times
Has Liked: 1132 times

Re: Paul Tierney abysmal

Post by FCBurnley » Fri May 20, 2022 12:46 am

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 10:20 pm
Totally agree the ref was sh*t but we got some decisions our way. Even our penalty (which clearly was one) was the same as the one Everton got against us and which the usual conspiracy crowd will all moaning about at the time
We / Our ? Chameleon alert

aggi
Posts: 8762
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:31 am
Been Liked: 2109 times

Re: Paul Tierney abysmal

Post by aggi » Fri May 20, 2022 12:48 am

Tierney was terrible tonight but he only had a partial blame for all the errors tonight.

The foul throw, the red card, the penalty, they were all kissable by the referee but they should have been blatantly obvious to var. Inept or corrupt, make your item mind up

DCWat
Posts: 9296
Joined: Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:04 am
Been Liked: 4131 times
Has Liked: 3599 times

Re: Paul Tierney abysmal

Post by DCWat » Fri May 20, 2022 12:49 am

blake's wand wrote:
Fri May 20, 2022 12:20 am
Think the red card is a terrible decision. Clearly hit the ball first - would expect to be overturned
What does it say for VAR if it’s overturned. If VAR was effective, there would be no need for appeals.

2 Bee Holed
Posts: 1856
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:37 am
Been Liked: 548 times
Has Liked: 31 times
Location: South Manchester

Re: Paul Tierney abysmal

Post by 2 Bee Holed » Fri May 20, 2022 1:01 am

Ric_C wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 10:24 pm
20220519_222126.jpg
Unbelievable that they fanny about over millimetres and armpits for offside.....but when it's 0.5 metres onto the pitch at a throw in it suddenly doesn't matter that the laws of the game are being broken.

THEWELLERNUT70
Posts: 3382
Joined: Mon Jan 25, 2016 11:13 pm
Been Liked: 997 times
Has Liked: 2007 times

Re: Paul Tierney abysmal

Post by THEWELLERNUT70 » Fri May 20, 2022 1:10 am

aggi wrote:
Fri May 20, 2022 12:48 am
Tierney was terrible tonight but he only had a partial blame for all the errors tonight.

The foul throw, the red card, the penalty, they were all kissable by the referee but they should have been blatantly obvious to var. Inept or corrupt, make your item mind up
I ain't kissing no refs despite how hairy their arms are.


Grrrrrrrrrrrrr

clive40golf
Posts: 398
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 12:51 am
Been Liked: 153 times
Has Liked: 180 times

Re: Paul Tierney abysmal

Post by clive40golf » Fri May 20, 2022 1:25 am

Did anyone see their goalkeeper grabbing KL’s head and then throwing him to the ground 1st half? How can that not be a penalty and it didn’t even get a var check. Goalkeepers seem to be getting away with blatant fouls, that aren’t even checked. Villa’s gk kept charging out and running into players, and then getting a free kick in his favour. Totally frustrating!
This user liked this post: longsidepies

IanMcL
Posts: 30126
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:27 pm
Been Liked: 6340 times
Has Liked: 8654 times

Re: Paul Tierney abysmal

Post by IanMcL » Fri May 20, 2022 1:44 am

Prem ref delivering for his masters. Couldn't avoid giving us a pen. Everything else wrong.

AwayClaret
Posts: 696
Joined: Tue May 10, 2022 1:09 pm
Been Liked: 163 times
Has Liked: 143 times

Re: Paul Tierney abysmal

Post by AwayClaret » Fri May 20, 2022 2:55 am

Just watched the game back and it's never a red card. I mean wtf is VAR there for. Ok so at first look the tosspot in the yellow might think it's wreckless BUT anyone who has played football can tell you that you can't do anything to stop your momentum when going in for a tackle at speed nd Liwton wins the ball but can't stop his following through so why don't VAR say "it's might not be as wreckless as you first thought have a look at the monitor to check it". The yelliw on Long was never a booking either. Clash of legs, if long wanted to foul the player he would be dragged him back. It beggers belief that we have these guys reffing the games when most of them have never actually played the game at a decent level. I don't know what the answer is but it needs sorting ASAP as well as sorting out the dicks that do VAR because they're just as useless.

AwayClaret
Posts: 696
Joined: Tue May 10, 2022 1:09 pm
Been Liked: 163 times
Has Liked: 143 times

Re: Paul Tierney abysmal

Post by AwayClaret » Fri May 20, 2022 3:04 am

They understand the laws, well some do, but they do not understand the game and gamesmanship.

Goddy
Posts: 668
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:31 am
Been Liked: 189 times
Has Liked: 689 times
Location: Nottingham

Re: Paul Tierney abysmal

Post by Goddy » Fri May 20, 2022 7:22 am

jedi_master wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 10:25 pm
Sorry, I said ‘FOUL ******* THROW REF’ as he took it. You could ask my Wife if you lived in the Chesterfield area as she told me to shut up for being too loud as our Daughter had just gone to bed.
I heard you over here in Nottingham, jedi!! :lol:
These 2 users liked this post: jedi_master longsidepies

Lancasterclaret
Posts: 23343
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 2:09 pm
Been Liked: 8058 times
Has Liked: 4714 times
Location: Riding the galactic winds in my X-wing

Re: Paul Tierney abysmal

Post by Lancasterclaret » Fri May 20, 2022 7:28 am

Rileybobs wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 10:36 pm
You could see the blue sleeve ripple where the ball connected. But maybe I’m seeing what I wanted to see. I guess if the ref gives it VAR doesn’t overturn it - which basically sums up the issue.
Thing is, ref would never give hand ball for that

He only does after a VAR check (which is what its for)

Its a daft rule, but I'm not sure how you stop the non-penalties (ie us v Spurs) being given

Steve-Harpers-perm
Posts: 5744
Joined: Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:52 am
Been Liked: 1868 times
Has Liked: 835 times

Re: Paul Tierney abysmal

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Fri May 20, 2022 8:12 am

Be interesting to look back at these threads and see if there is any ref who actually does his job consistently well bearing in mind the amount they get paid. Posted after the Spurs game until they stop wanting to be part of the show (cosy media jobs after retirement etc) this will go on.

jedi_master
Posts: 7104
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:33 pm
Been Liked: 3580 times
Has Liked: 1023 times
Location: Chesterfield

Re: Paul Tierney abysmal

Post by jedi_master » Fri May 20, 2022 8:13 am

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Fri May 20, 2022 8:12 am
Be interesting to look back at these threads and see if there is any ref who actually does his job consistently well bearing in mind the amount they get paid. Posted after the Spurs game until they stop wanting to be part of the show (cosy media jobs after retirement etc) this will go on.
Sadly the only two who offer any consistency and generally control the game in a manner befitting of an official are both retiring!

aggi
Posts: 8762
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:31 am
Been Liked: 2109 times

Re: Paul Tierney abysmal

Post by aggi » Fri May 20, 2022 8:35 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Fri May 20, 2022 7:28 am
Thing is, ref would never give hand ball for that

He only does after a VAR check (which is what its for)

Its a daft rule, but I'm not sure how you stop the non-penalties (ie us v Spurs) being given
They seemed to manage to stop it being given last night.

beeholeclaret
Posts: 679
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:03 pm
Been Liked: 288 times
Has Liked: 407 times
Location: Burnley

Re: Paul Tierney abysmal

Post by beeholeclaret » Fri May 20, 2022 9:01 am

Shocking at times. Lowton shouldn’t have been sent off for that. He won the ball and kept his foot down. Chambers came in from the side and got there late. Just annoying little things I remember. Martinez flailing at the ball and barging people out of the way and being awarded a free kick to relieve the pressure. Villa player aggressively jumps into Cork and comes away with the ball and then Cork penalised immediately as he tries to recover. The same happened with Collins barged down near the corner flag late on. He could wait to give free kicks and decisions in favour of the home side. We seem to get poor refs like this every week.

burnleymik
Posts: 5038
Joined: Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:00 pm
Been Liked: 1162 times
Has Liked: 2899 times

Re: Paul Tierney abysmal

Post by burnleymik » Fri May 20, 2022 2:31 pm

The officiating all round was awful last night.

How many corners should we have had, where inexplicably it's given as a goal kick. Can think of at least 2. The throw-in that leads to the goal, what was the lino doing?

The blatant cheating and diving completely ignored. Including one where the immediately jumps up and sprints half the pitch.

Their keeper grabbing Long's head after the ball had gone and shoving him.

Mings climbing all over WW totally ignored.

Huge inconsistencies of VAR between that game and the Spurs game.

Finally the red card.

Is this really the best officiating we can muster in the highest profile league in the world?

RVclaret
Posts: 13836
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:30 am
Been Liked: 3707 times
Has Liked: 2499 times

Re: Paul Tierney abysmal

Post by RVclaret » Fri May 20, 2022 2:34 pm

I think it says it all that 0 VAR refs have been selected from the PL for the World Cup. And only Oliver and Taylor will be reffing there.

Vegas Claret
Posts: 30275
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:00 am
Been Liked: 10917 times
Has Liked: 5594 times
Location: clue is in the title

Re: Paul Tierney abysmal

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri May 20, 2022 2:43 pm

Tierney doing Brentford v Leeds. Leeds should have 3 sent off before half time if that's his threshold for a red card

Post Reply