ARTICLE: Dwight’s right for Everton

[burnleymik]

Big loss.

[Granny WeatherWax]

Do you honestly think the manager had a say once the owners saw the colour of Everton's money?

Do you honestly think the owners had a say once McNeil saw that Everton wanted him?

[claret2018]

Fantastic deal for us, we’ve had Everton’s pants down.

I predict he’ll be sold to a Championship club for a few million in 2 or 3 years time.

[Papabendi]

Do you honestly think the owners had a say once McNeil saw that Everton wanted him?

couldnt wait to get it done - his words.

[lrac]

Fantastic deal for us, we’ve had Everton’s pants down.

I predict he’ll be sold to a Championship club for a few million in 2 or 3 years time.

Or just maybe in the England squad

[andyh]

Will never be a regular starter but even if he is by some weird circumstances Everton will be relegated just as we were. A player who had an unbelievable 6 months and has been pretty poor ever since.
One foot no pace little guile no composure poor decisions. Very happy to see the back of him.

[BennyD]

Do you honestly think the manager had a say once the owners saw the colour of Everton's money?

Tbh, if that is your honest opinion as the owner of this forum, you should be ashamed that you've aired it. In case you've forgotten, you job is to run this forum without personal opinion, grace or favour and if you can't do that you should sell/ pass it onto someone who can run a forum properly. Ban me if you want, but all that would do is highlight the fact I'm correct. Also, deleting this post does the same to those who read it. Get a grip.

[Granny WeatherWax]

couldnt wait to get it done - his words.

Aye. “When I heard about Everton’s interest I wanted to get it done straight away”, but let’s bash Pace eh.

People need to give their head a wobble.

[ClaretTony]

He didn't have a release clause, had years left on his contract and would have benefitted us to keep him. We didn't need to sell him and, if we get promoted his value would have increased. Chirrup on about the owners all you want, but I prefer to think that if VK had wanted to, he could have kept him. If you don't agree, then suck up the bile and bitterness you obviously see in the club and then you can say 'I told you so" if we go under.

A release isn't relevant - Everton make offer, owners like the look of it and McNeil leaves. As for 'suck up the bile and bitterness you obviously see in the club' I think you need to be more careful in choosing words. The chairman said some time ago that should we be relegated we would have to sell players, VK said it in different words yesterday. I'm sorry but I don't think you understand how our club works now.

[KlyBfc]

This is the one that disappoints me the most. I think it’s a real set back in our chances to get back up. I’d accepted Tarks, pope and cornet (along with the out of contract players) id hoped for good news on Mee and wanted us to be strong with Collins but to lose Dwight feels like a real kick in the teeth. I thought he’d stick it out and I’d hoped we’d be strong in resisting and I think he’d be worth the same or more after a good season. My other fear is if we will actually get any money from Everton… I would not be surprised if they dropped this season and that would potentially lead to disaster for them.

[Pearcey]

First saw him play for the U23’s at Wisbech where he scored a cracker. I said at the time that he stood out and he’s gone on to be a top player. Good luck to him and although I completely expected him to leave, it’s still really disappointing. Looking forward to seeing our new number 11 now. UTC.

[daveisaclaret]

Tbh, if that is your honest opinion as the owner of this forum, you should be ashamed that you've aired it. In case you've forgotten, you job is to run this forum without personal opinion, grace or favour and if you can't do that you should sell/ pass it onto someone who can run a forum properly. Ban me if you want, but all that would do is highlight the fact I'm correct. Also, deleting this post does the same to those who read it. Get a grip.

Quite incredible to make up a job description for someone and then tell them they should be ashamed for not following it.

[Pickles]

Do you honestly think the owners had a say once McNeil saw that Everton wanted him?

It's this. If a player wants to leave, nine times out of ten they leave.

[taio]

Tbh, if that is your honest opinion as the owner of this forum, you should be ashamed that you've aired it. In case you've forgotten, you job is to run this forum without personal opinion, grace or favour and if you can't do that you should sell/ pass it onto someone who can run a forum properly. Ban me if you want, but all that would do is highlight the fact I'm correct. Also, deleting this post does the same to those who read it. Get a grip.

This is a ridiculous post. All CT was saying was that the final decision would have been the Board's not VK's which of course it would have been.

[IanMcL]

It seems to me that the owners are using this relegation to totally wipe that big payment they appear to have to make, despite denials.

We had a team capable of a bounce back. Now we don't.
Assets stripped. Cornet and Roberts to go and maybe even Taylor. Bloody owners.

[boatshed bill]

Best of luck to him.
One of very few worth watching in recent seasons.
It's not all about money, his career seemed to have stalled and I imagine he'd like to test himself at the highest level possible.

[boatshed bill]

It seems to me that the owners are using this relegation to totally wipe that big payment they appear to have to make, despite denials.

We had a team capable of a bounce back. Now we don't.
Assets stripped. Cornet and Roberts to go and maybe even Taylor. Bloody owners.

You couldn't wait to get shot of Mike Garlick.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Tbh, if that is your honest opinion as the owner of this forum, you should be ashamed that you've aired it. In case you've forgotten, you job is to run this forum without personal opinion, grace or favour and if you can't do that you should sell/ pass it onto someone who can run a forum properly. Ban me if you want, but all that would do is highlight the fact I'm correct. Also, deleting this post does the same to those who read it. Get a grip.

Are you drunk?
Bit early if so...

[IanMcL]

You couldn't wait to get shot of Mike Garlick.

Like I said. Bloody owners. One flogs club for personal benefit and the purchasers buy with huge loans, using the club funds.

[boatshed bill]

Like I said. Bloody owners. One flogs club for personal benefit and the purchasers buy with huge loans, using the club funds.

Perhaps you should give it a go

[Bordeauxclaret]

Do you honestly think the owners had a say once McNeil saw that Everton wanted him?

This is spot on, I don’t see how people still don’t understand this.

Being paid more money to play at a higher level. Who can blame them for wanting to go.

[mikeS]

Sorry to see him go but Well done to Dwight.

We Move on.

[RVclaret]

This is spot on, I don’t see how people still don’t understand this.

Being paid more money to play at a higher level. Who can blame them for wanting to go.

The player himself said ‘as soon as I saw Everton’s interest I wanted it done’

[Top Claret]

You couldn't wait to get shot of Mike Garlick.

Not shot it's shut

[boatshed bill]

This is spot on, I don’t see how people still don’t understand this.

Being paid more money to play at a higher level. Who can blame them for wanting to go.

TBH I'm beginning to wonder just how low our pay is now.

[boatshed bill]

Not shot it's shut

Not around here.

[Top Claret]

Not around here.

It's in East Lancashire and West Yorkshire where all my family are from going back centuries

[Elizabeth]

While I'm not disappointed to see McNeil leave the club because of his poor performances and defeatist attitude last season I am intrigued to see how he does at another PL club because he was really good when he first came into the team.

I think that's a lot of money for him and it's going to very interesting to see what Pace does with money.

[BennyD]

This is a ridiculous post. All CT was saying was that the final decision would have been the Board's not VK's which of course it would have been.

So, by you intimation, are the board are h3ll-bent on financial self-destruction? Wasn't it the board who brought in Cornet and Weghoust, sacked SD and very nearly brought off a miracle? There is, IMO, far too much negativity as to the intentions of Mr Pace and co and I, for one, am happy to give them the credit they, at face value, deserve.

[CrosspoolClarets]

I fear for the lad when the Gladws St lot turn on him. He’s a delicate one is Dwight, I’m unconvinced he has the ‘killer’ mentality, though he does have the work ethic and skillset. He seems to get more pleasure from turning in a circle and bamboozling an opponent than winning a match. Maybe Lampard will help him overcome that?

But this is a deal good for all parties. With the way VK’s sides play, with overlapping midfielders getting regularly into the box, we need a more ruthless finisher. Hope it goes well for him though (while Everton get relegated, obvs, that is the top priority PL wish for 22/23 after their behaviour last season).

[bobinho]

Tbh, if that is your honest opinion as the owner of this forum, you should be ashamed that you've aired it. In case you've forgotten, you job is to run this forum without personal opinion, grace or favour and if you can't do that you should sell/ pass it onto someone who can run a forum properly. Ban me if you want, but all that would do is highlight the fact I'm correct. Also, deleting this post does the same to those who read it. Get a grip.

Wow.

Whilst I don't always agree with CT, and I sometimes challenge his opinions myself, I wouldn't ever suggest he has no right voicing them on his own forum. Bloody hell Benny that's a ridiculous statement you made there. CT's opinion is as valid as everyone else's, and he has every right to air it. He doesn't have to be impartial, this isn't the BBC.

And tbh, he does a pretty good job of running this forum.

[LAM]

Absolutely nothing has happened yet that has shifted my thinking from day one that this is all going to end badly.

We’ve been stripped (when Cornet leaves) of all our main playing assets in one transfer window, hoping a massive gamble of signing untested players (at this level) will eventually pay off. Fair play to Pace though, he seems to have sold a dream to our fans and it seems most are excited at the season ahead. I fear that’s more because of the unknown than any confidence.

Good luck Dwight, anyway, I think he’d have tore up this division.

[boatshed bill]

Absolutely nothing has happened yet that has shifted my thinking from day one that this is all going to end badly.

We’ve been stripped (when Cornet leaves) of all our main playing assets in one transfer window, hoping a massive gamble of signing untested players (at this level) will eventually pay off. Fair play to Pace though, he seems to have sold a dream to our fans and it seems most are excited at the season ahead. I fear that’s more because of the unknown than any confidence.

Good luck Dwight, anyway, I think he’d have tore up this division.

Can't share your concern, our lot, which we are shipping out, couldn't beat Norwich or Leeds

[taio]

So, by you intimation, are the board are h3ll-bent on financial self-destruction? Wasn't it the board who brought in Cornet and Weghoust, sacked SD and very nearly brought off a miracle? There is, IMO, far too much negativity as to the intentions of Mr Pace and co and I, for one, am happy to give them the credit they, at face value, deserve.

Not sure what that has to do with the point that the Board will sign off on transfers and your ridiculous and unnecessary rant to CT.

[LowtonClaret]

If the board sold all our best players then expected the then under 23s to take their positions, I'd be outside Mr Paces house calling for his head. However, he's brought in a young ambitious manager along with a string of promising exciting young footballers who the new manager wants. It's feck all to do with asset stripping or Pace selling under VKs nose. VK already stated he new the situation, It's about balancing the books with young potential stars of the future. I'm totally bought into the new way and can't wait!

[LAM]

Can't share your concern, our lot, which we are shipping out, couldn't beat Norwich or Leeds

Seen as good enough by other premier league clubs to be signed, so what chance do we have now to beat Watford?

That’s not saying something needed to change, but all our best players at once? I won’t be told otherwise that this is nothing more than asset stripping.

[boatshed bill]

Seen as good enough by other premier league clubs to be signed, so what chance do we have now to beat Watford?

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Every chance, in my humble opinion.

[jdrobbo]

Wish him every success. Really disappointed to see him go.

[SGr]

More concerned about where the money is going. Owners sold us a dream and the reality couldn’t be further from it.

Which owners are you referring to?

I remember years of keeping the powder dry in the name of “securing the club’s future” and “prudence”. To suggest that it should have been spent on players at the time invited a lot of criticism.

[LAM]

Every chance, in my humble opinion.

Apologies I’ve somehow reported this post by accident if you’re contacted! I don’t post on here often!

I’d responded saying fair enough and hope you’re right so hopefully admin see my obvious error haha

[boatshed bill]

Apologies I’ve somehow reported this post by accident if you’re contacted! I don’t post on here often!

I’d responded saying fair enough and hope you’re right so hopefully admin see my obvious error haha

No worries.

[LowtonClaret]

I have to laugh, if somebody came to me and said, oi laddy, come and do the same job and I'll treble your wages for a good while longer, I'd be off in a shot. Money talks louder than loyalty. Yes we could have blocked the move but gain what...a unhappy player no longer whating to give his all. Asset stripping my ar*e. We weren't winging when Tarks saw his own backside at Brentford refusing to play. If a player wants to go, just let him go. DM wanted to go..end of!

[bfcjg]

Wish him well, pressure cooker club though and they will be looking gor a scapegoat, he was given time here and he won't get that there.

[aclaretinstevenage]

Not around here.

Nor Here!

[BennyD]

Wow.

Whilst I don't always agree with CT, and I sometimes challenge his opinions myself, I wouldn't ever suggest he has no right voicing them on his own forum. Bloody hell Benny that's a ridiculous statement you made there. CT's opinion is as valid as everyone else's, and he has every right to air it. He doesn't have to be impartial, this isn't the BBC.

And tbh, he does a pretty good job of running this forum.

That's your opinion and I'm not going to argue. However, IMO, if you own a forum you do so because you want fair discussion. You don't start a forum to voice your own opinion and slant opinions to your view. If that is the kind of forum you want, then well and good. If that's the case. I take it you want referees in other spheres to have their views and personal preferences to hold similar weight. IMO, CTs role on this forum is to endure a clean fight, report facts and give reports; being critical of the club and its owners goes above and beyond.

[clarethomer]

Really? Let's be honest here. Everton are banging in about how he's only 22 with lots of Prem experience and a real talent. We spent 13m on Hendrick - then an unproven good Champ player.

We might get UP TO 20m for Dwight after 6 years of inflated markets post Hendrick.

And people think it's a good deal? If he were in his final year maybe but not right now.

What do you think a fair price would have been?

[BennyD]

Not sure what that has to do with the point that the Board will sign off on transfers and your ridiculous and unnecessary rant to CT.

The board, along with VT, can sign off all the transfers they want and I hope they keep doing it. Personally, I don't hold with the view that they are slashing and burning for personal gain. I still believe that it's VKs opinion that players should be allowed to leave if they get a Prem offer, and not, as CT believes, because we have to. I don't know, you don't know and CT certainly doesn't know, and that's why I stated that CT shouldn't, as the forum owner, broadcast his own most probably,, less than fully informed opinion. Rant away.

[BabylonClaret]

What do you think a fair price would have been?

20-25m I would say would be fair as a base. Lots of Prem experience. Only 22. Attacking MF. English. Not in the last year of his contract

For crying out loud we bought Collins last year for 15 - he was a defender and unproven at the top level.

It's like we rolled over as soon as the cash was flashed. Look at Stephens and Brighton - they point bla k refused to deal despite him being keen (they probably raised his wage as well though in the end).

[warksclaret]

Its OK having a go at BFC for selling three players on the cheap. However I did not witness firm interest in Collins, Pope and Dwight from clubs other than the ones buying them. If they were on the low side more clubs would have come in to secure each one. THe market will drive the price. Can you imagine having all three still here, not involved with match preparation and just hanging around like Cornet is. Again how many clubs are SERIOUSLY interested in Cornet-the price is very transparent

[taio]

The board, along with VT, can sign off all the transfers they want and I hope they keep doing it. Personally, I don't hold with the view that they are slashing and burning for personal gain. I still believe that it's VKs opinion that players should be allowed to leave if they get a Prem offer, and not, as CT believes, because we have to. I don't know, you don't know and CT certainly doesn't know, and that's why I stated that CT shouldn't, as the forum owner, broadcast his own most probably,, less than fully informed opinion. Rant away.

We do have to sell players and Pace and Kompany have said that.