Them down the road v Champions

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Re: Them down the road v Champions

Post by SonofPog » Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:54 pm

Well. That was pretty rubbish.

Not sure what shape we're playing.

JBG seems to be trying to play as a striker, Rarely dropping into midfield. Trying to push the defence back? But as we've never played a ball over the top. They're stepping up anyway. Maybe one of our Strikers on the bench would be more suited to that role if indeed thats what he's trying to do?

Vitinho needs to be reminded he's a young millionaire playing in a local Derby and not look so fing depressed.

Only Barnes and Al Dakhil seem "up for it". Although Maatsen's class showing. The rest. Meh. Take your pick on who to sub off.
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Re: Them down the road v Champions

Post by Elizabeth » Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:54 pm

Game delicately poised , missing that element of individual skill.
I’d like to see us retain possession better in the middle of the park.
I suppose a typical hard fought local Derby but I expected more from us. Definately room for improvement and Gudmundsson to get into the game more would help

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Re: Them down the road v Champions

Post by Cubanforever » Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:54 pm

What does VK say and do to change the second half

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Re: Them down the road v Champions

Post by Carwin261 » Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:54 pm

I know he’s a ******* ,but might be worth a cheeky bid for Wharton.

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Re: Them down the road v Champions

Post by Childzy » Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:54 pm

For the record through, away at their place 0-0 having not played great is a good outcome.

We have the players, options, systems and fitness choices to make a decisive change and go on to win this.

Ideally getting the first and being in a position to break on to 2 or 3-0

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Re: Them down the road v Champions

Post by RVclaret » Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:55 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:53 pm
We desperately need more control in midfield and an option or two for a ball in behind/ over the top.

Since losing Tella we’ve just tried to pass it into their net. Teams simply aren’t going to let us do that.
Completely agree re. ball in behind. I suggested Obafemi to start in my team for this reason. Everything is being played infront of Blackburn's defence.

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Re: Them down the road v Champions

Post by criminalclaret » Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:55 pm

On another note, how sad is it to see all those empty seats for a Elanclassico game?! I find that astonishing

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Re: Them down the road v Champions

Post by elwaclaret » Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:55 pm

Poor half, still reasonably confident we can end up comfortable winners.

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Re: Them down the road v Champions

Post by Firthy » Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:55 pm

Benson, Cork and Foster for Vitinho, JBG and Barnes

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Re: Them down the road v Champions

Post by Colburn_Claret » Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:55 pm

As expected really, too slow to transition, too sloppy at the end. No surprise, but I will be sick if VK doesn't turn it up second half.
Benson on is a no brainer, but what we need more than anything is a bit more urgency, and speed. We can't keep trying to walk the ball in the net, and expect any joy.

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Re: Them down the road v Champions

Post by taio » Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:56 pm

jojomk1 wrote:
Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:51 pm
Need to get him off

Hasn't got the intensity or pace for a game like this
He's been quiet as he's not seen much of the ball. But I'd keep him on and see how he starts the second half given he's been in such good form.

I've no idea what you mean by your second sentence.

The obvious change would be Benson for Vitinho.

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Re: Them down the road v Champions

Post by boatshed bill » Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:56 pm

I think so many comments on here totally disrespect our young team who are probably very tired after delivering promotion so early.
Don't underestimate the massive effort that's got us PL football.

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Re: Them down the road v Champions

Post by KateR » Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:57 pm

They certainly seem to want it more but in reality have had the pressure but still not looking like they’d score.

For me Barnes when he comes around the center circle consistently loses it, whether from Muric or an outfield player. Much better when he’s up near their box though, am many have said Vitinho off the game. Also like Cork on and Brownhill moving further forward for Vitinho, I’d leave JBG on for now but only for another 15 minutes or so, then swap out for Benson. Also think Foster on for Ash after a relatively short time, or maybe JRod.

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Re: Them down the road v Champions

Post by jos » Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:57 pm

This game is to be expected, Blackburn are going to be trying their very hardest to not let us win.

Stop fretting, We won’t be playing them next season.

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Re: Them down the road v Champions

Post by jedi_master » Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:57 pm

Benson and Rodriguez on with 30 to go.

Have no fear.

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Re: Them down the road v Champions

Post by KRBFC » Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:58 pm

Has to be a concern just how toothless we are without Tella, also our best option upfront (VK choice) is leaving in the summer on a free.

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Re: Them down the road v Champions

Post by WazzaClaret » Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:58 pm

We won't play worse and don't think they can play better, Benson and cork on in this half and hopefully we can have a repeat of the reverse fixture. Massive 45 coming up, VK will give them all a rocket up their arses I'm sure. But concerned about brownhill being on a yellow, need him pushed up.

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Re: Them down the road v Champions

Post by CoolClaret » Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:59 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:56 pm
I think so many comments on here totally disrespect our young team who are probably very tired after delivering promotion so early.
Don't underestimate the massive effort that's got us PL football.
Sorry but that’s tosh.

They’re professionals and are paid extremely well

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Re: Them down the road v Champions

Post by tarkys_ears » Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:59 pm

jos wrote:
Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:57 pm
This game is to be expected, Blackburn are going to be trying their very hardest to not let us win.

Stop fretting, We won’t be playing them next season.
No

We're ******* playing them NOW!
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Re: Them down the road v Champions

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:59 pm

A bit too much panic and its hard to play our game in a maelstrom.

Agree re Cork for JBG to get Brownhill forward but Obafemi or Foster instead would give us that option over the top. Happy with either but we cannot enter these games with one deep lying central midfielder and one who shifts to other positions to boot. Brownhill has never been a deep lying one as we saw under Dyche.

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Re: Them down the road v Champions

Post by Rick_Muller » Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:59 pm

Cubanforever wrote:
Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:54 pm
What does VK say and do to change the second half
He should say “this matters”

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Re: Them down the road v Champions

Post by DCWat » Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:59 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:56 pm
I think so many comments on here totally disrespect our young team who are probably very tired after delivering promotion so early.
Don't underestimate the massive effort that's got us PL football.
Not sure I buy that - have we put more effort in than other team or have we just been better?

Every team (and some with much smaller squads) have played the same games as we have.

This is a case of who wants it more.

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Re: Them down the road v Champions

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:00 pm

Crying out for some pace

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Re: Them down the road v Champions

Post by warksclaret » Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:00 pm

Would not surprised to see Jack on, we seem unbalanced with Vitinho, JBG and Zarouury allplaying and having lack of control in CM. Play is very predictable and slow with half our passes being between our two centre halves and have hardly threatened at all

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Re: Them down the road v Champions

Post by 4midable » Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:00 pm

Blackburn wont keep up that midfield intensity for 90 mins and they always concede late

Arses will drop when benson gets at em

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Re: Them down the road v Champions

Post by Rick_Muller » Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:01 pm

They will tire second half though… they’ve been so energetic to play at that tempo it has to drop second half. Benson and Obafemi will tear it up when they do

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Re: Them down the road v Champions

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:01 pm

Time to get our best players on

Benson and foster need to get on early this half

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Re: Them down the road v Champions

Post by karatekid » Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:01 pm

All a bit pedestrian when we’re in possession.

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Re: Them down the road v Champions

Post by warksclaret » Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:02 pm

DCWat wrote:
Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:59 pm
Not sure I buy that - have we put more effort in than other team or have we just been better?

Every team (and some with much smaller squads) have played the same games as we have.

This is a case of who wants it more.
Precisely that

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Re: Them down the road v Champions

Post by RVclaret » Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:02 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:01 pm
Time to get our best players on

Benson and foster need to get on early this half
Think he'll go with Jay over Foster for this one.

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Re: Them down the road v Champions

Post by ClaretPete001 » Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:03 pm

As other have said we look like we need the Cork-Cullen fulcrum back in place with Benson on the right.

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Re: Them down the road v Champions

Post by boatshed bill » Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:03 pm

DCWat wrote:
Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:59 pm
Not sure I buy that - have we put more effort in than other team or have we just been better?

Every team (and some with much smaller squads) have played the same games as we have.

This is a case of who wants it more.
So many from weaker leagues. Our long season will have had an affect.
i don't really go for the "want it more" thing...look at the table ;)
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Re: Them down the road v Champions

Post by jos » Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:03 pm

tarkys_ears wrote:
Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:59 pm
No

We're ******* playing them NOW!
Obviously! But some of the comments read like we are losing

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Re: Them down the road v Champions

Post by karatekid » Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:04 pm

Get Arfield on.
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Re: Them down the road v Champions

Post by Greekclaret » Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:05 pm

Their RB finally booked

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Re: Them down the road v Champions

Post by SussexDon1inIreland » Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:05 pm

Nasty foul Costello booked

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Re: Them down the road v Champions

Post by Taffy on the wing » Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:05 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:02 pm
Think he'll go with Jay over Foster for this one.
Please God no...........he's toast.
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Re: Them down the road v Champions

Post by gawthorpe_view » Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:06 pm

SussexDon1inIreland wrote:
Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:05 pm
Nasty foul Costello booked
Not before time.

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Re: Them down the road v Champions

Post by boatshed bill » Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:06 pm

jos wrote:
Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:03 pm
Obviously! But some of the comments read like we are losing
Some are verging on neurotic :D

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Re: Them down the road v Champions

Post by JimmyRobbo » Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:06 pm

Didn't Maatsen fancy heading that one back?

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Re: Them down the road v Champions

Post by tarkys_ears » Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:07 pm

Jesus ******* wept

Just get the ******* ball out

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Re: Them down the road v Champions

Post by jos » Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:07 pm

karatekid wrote:
Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:04 pm
Get Arfield on.
And Blake :)

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Re: Them down the road v Champions

Post by Mrpotatohead » Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:07 pm

tarkys_ears wrote:
Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:07 pm
Jesus ******* wept

Just get the ******* ball out
Do us all a favour will you. It's every bl00dy game.
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Re: Them down the road v Champions

Post by BurnleyFC » Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:07 pm

I’m not sure Jay has it in him anymore.

Please prove me wrong if he gets on.

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Re: Them down the road v Champions

Post by Somethingfishy » Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:08 pm

Started same as. Sloppy and off the pace. Worrying.

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Re: Them down the road v Champions

Post by Murger » Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:08 pm

Seriously. Wtf are we doing at the back?

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Re: Them down the road v Champions

Post by DCWat » Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:08 pm

Someone get a bloody hold of the ball and calm it down!

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Re: Them down the road v Champions

Post by tarkys_ears » Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:08 pm

Mrpotatohead wrote:
Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:07 pm
Do us all a favour will you. It's every bl00dy game.
Oh sorry

Let's all ******* celebrate like the backward inbred ***** like you when it goes against us

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Re: Them down the road v Champions

Post by tarkys_ears » Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:09 pm

Mrpotatohead wrote:
Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:07 pm
Do us all a favour will you. It's every bl00dy game.
Stupid ******* ****

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Re: Them down the road v Champions

Post by CoolClaret » Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:09 pm

Little bit ****** off. I don’t understand why we’ve completely changed post promotion? Play style and personnel

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