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Re: New BFC Membership scheme

Post by Nori1958 » Mon Jun 12, 2023 4:55 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Jun 12, 2023 4:52 pm
They did but there’s been no indication as to whether it was successful or how many were sold on.
No indication either that they won't be using the system to be fair..

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Re: New BFC Membership scheme

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 12, 2023 4:56 pm

Nori1958 wrote:
Mon Jun 12, 2023 4:55 pm
No indication either that they won't be using the system to be fair..
No - they’ve said nothing.

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Re: New BFC Membership scheme

Post by Nori1958 » Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:01 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Jun 12, 2023 4:56 pm
No - they’ve said nothing.
Might be a bit early yet.

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Re: New BFC Membership scheme

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:05 pm

Nori1958 wrote:
Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:01 pm
Might be a bit early yet.
Or maybe they could have put something out soon after the game with some info.

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Re: New BFC Membership scheme

Post by wilks_bfc » Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:08 pm

lakedistrictclaret wrote:
Mon Jun 12, 2023 4:38 pm
One of my golfing partners is a Man U STH. They have a similar policy, although he is allowed to release his ST to someone else a certain number of times per season.
I have thought further about our situation. If away tickets were available in the following order ( for example):-
1. 8000 points
2. 6000 points
3. 4000 points
4. Premium members
5. Members
6. General sale

that would seem fair
Where would the STH <4000 points sit?

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Re: New BFC Membership scheme

Post by Nori1958 » Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:09 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:05 pm
Or maybe they could have put something out soon after the game with some info.
Not sure why they should, we don't even know when the first home game is....I would expect it to be announced with the ticket details for that game....if not,then the questions should be asked

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Re: New BFC Membership scheme

Post by Nori1958 » Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:11 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:
Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:08 pm
Where would the STH <4000 points sit?
In 3rd place?

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Re: New BFC Membership scheme

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:11 pm

Nori1958 wrote:
Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:09 pm
Not sure why they should, we don't even know when the first home game is....I would expect it to be announced with the ticket details for that game....if not,then the questions should be asked
No point discussing with you

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Re: New BFC Membership scheme

Post by wilks_bfc » Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:12 pm

Nori1958 wrote:
Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:11 pm
In 3rd place?
Not according to ldc

You need at least 4000 to be in the 3rd wave

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Re: New BFC Membership scheme

Post by Nori1958 » Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:13 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:
Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:12 pm
Not according to ldc

You need at least 4000 to be in the 3rd wave
Is that not what was asked.....4000pts?

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Re: New BFC Membership scheme

Post by Nori1958 » Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:14 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:11 pm
No point discussing with you
Sorry

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Re: New BFC Membership scheme

Post by wilks_bfc » Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:15 pm

Nori1958 wrote:
Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:13 pm
Is that not what was asked.....4000pts?
No I asked where those STH with less than (<) 4000pts would be

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Re: New BFC Membership scheme

Post by bigdavethemaddog » Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:16 pm

how many home match tickets do we think will be available for individual matchday purchases?

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Re: New BFC Membership scheme

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:17 pm

My Season Ticket seemed a daft purchase at the time, but its got better all the time since

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Re: New BFC Membership scheme

Post by lakedistrictclaret » Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:17 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:
Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:08 pm
Where would the STH <4000 points sit?
Good question!
Perhaps there should be an extra category, above Premium members, of STHs with fewer than 4000 points.question
It's all getting a bit complicated!

The main thing is that is doesn't seem right to be able to "buy" twenty years loyalty for £250.
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Re: New BFC Membership scheme

Post by aggi » Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:21 pm

Didn't (maybe still does?) the foundation offer access to away tickets at the same priority level as season ticket holders. I thought it put you in the top band although I was never a member so can't say for sure.

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Re: New BFC Membership scheme

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:23 pm

aggi wrote:
Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:21 pm
Didn't (maybe still does?) the foundation offer access to away tickets at the same priority level as season ticket holders. I thought it put you in the top band although I was never a member so can't say for sure.
It does put you at the top I think but I’ve never used it. I believe there is just a limited number of tickets though.

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Re: New BFC Membership scheme

Post by IanMcL » Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:24 pm

My premium membership must be my shareholding!

Like the old days!

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Re: New BFC Membership scheme

Post by wilks_bfc » Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:24 pm

lakedistrictclaret wrote:
Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:17 pm
Good question!
Perhaps there should be an extra category, above Premium members, of STHs with fewer than 4000 points.question
It's all getting a bit complicated!

The main thing is that is doesn't seem right to be able to "buy" twenty years loyalty for £250.
It doesn’t seem right that somebody get that for the equivalent of half a season ticket

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Re: New BFC Membership scheme

Post by IanMcL » Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:26 pm

lakedistrictclaret wrote:
Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:17 pm

The main thing is that is doesn't seem right to be able to "buy" twenty years loyalty for £250.
...every season

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Re: New BFC Membership scheme

Post by Nori1958 » Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:31 pm

lakedistrictclaret wrote:
Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:17 pm
Good question!
Perhaps there should be an extra category, above Premium members, of STHs with fewer than 4000 points.question
It's all getting a bit complicated!

The main thing is that is doesn't seem right to be able to "buy" twenty years loyalty for £250.
Would 20yrs loyalty not get you more than 4000pts?

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Re: New BFC Membership scheme

Post by FeedTheArf » Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:45 pm

Think this may be a case of ‘be careful what you wish for’. I’m fairly sure in all of the Claret View surveys they’ve been sending out over the last 12-18 months, the loyalty points and away ticket allocations will have been high on the agenda. With the need to increase revenues the club might well look at this as an opportunity to monetise loyalty which, (without knowing all of the details yet) this looks exactly what these membership schemes appear to be.

It’s got shades of ‘retainer-gate’!
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Re: New BFC Membership scheme

Post by Nori1958 » Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:56 pm

FeedTheArf wrote:
Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:45 pm
Think this may be a case of ‘be careful what you wish for’. I’m fairly sure in all of the Claret View surveys they’ve been sending out over the last 12-18 months, the loyalty points and away ticket allocations will have been high on the agenda. With the need to increase revenues the club might well look at this as an opportunity to monetise loyalty which, (without knowing all of the details yet) this looks exactly what these membership schemes appear to be.

It’s got shades of ‘retainer-gate’!
I've always said an away season ticket would be a good idea.....but would have to be in addition to a season ticket....I think this scheme is for those with low points to jump the queue ahead of season ticket holders who don't have the minimum points for any particular away game....example

7000
6000
4000
Then before it went to season ticket only, the premium members would come into play

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Re: New BFC Membership scheme

Post by NottsClaret » Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:57 pm

Bearing in mind we've plucked 4,000 pts out of the air. £250 may get you right to the top, first served, before everyone else. Or after every ST holder has got theirs, which would leave you with little or no chance most weeks. We don't know. That's the thing with the article on the site, there was little point publishing unless they can explain how it works.

Not that I'm too fussed, as it'll be a bit like the friends and family scheme I'd imagine in that it's not even policed so as long as you know somebody who either has points or a membership, you'll still get sorted anyway.

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Re: New BFC Membership scheme

Post by Spijed » Mon Jun 12, 2023 6:16 pm

NottsClaret wrote:
Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:57 pm

Not that I'm too fussed, as it'll be a bit like the friends and family scheme I'd imagine in that it's not even policed so as long as you know somebody who either has points or a membership, you'll still get sorted anyway.
That's where I think the ballot system may be used for some matches next season due to supply and demand.

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Re: New BFC Membership scheme

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 12, 2023 6:33 pm

Spijed wrote:
Mon Jun 12, 2023 6:16 pm
That's where I think the ballot system may be used for some matches next season due to supply and demand.
They might as well just throw all the loyalty schemes away if they are going to come up with that nonsense again
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Re: New BFC Membership scheme

Post by StayingDown4Ever » Mon Jun 12, 2023 6:43 pm

Spijed wrote:
Mon Jun 12, 2023 6:16 pm
That's where I think the ballot system may be used for some matches next season due to supply and demand.
A good initiative if used properly.

Even if they did say 25% of an allocation went to ballot to give everyone a shot of going.

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Re: New BFC Membership scheme

Post by IanMcL » Mon Jun 12, 2023 7:32 pm

You would think that before putting it in their website, the club would actually test the bessafe to see if it is clear, unambiguous and easily understood. Very poor output indeed, on this occasion. Who manages this department? Get some processes in place!
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Re: New BFC Membership scheme

Post by Duffer_ » Mon Jun 12, 2023 7:36 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Mon Jun 12, 2023 7:32 pm
You would think that before putting it in their website, the club would actually test the bessafe to see if it is clear, unambiguous and easily understood. Very poor output indeed, on this occasion. Who manages this department? Get some processes in place!
Do you mean "message" (bessafe)?

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Re: New BFC Membership scheme

Post by ceborame » Mon Jun 12, 2023 7:54 pm

Isn't the price difference mainly because of the 10% off hospitality for the £250 option ?

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Re: New BFC Membership scheme

Post by Nori1958 » Mon Jun 12, 2023 8:31 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Mon Jun 12, 2023 7:32 pm
You would think that before putting it in their website, the club would actually test the bessafe to see if it is clear, unambiguous and easily understood. Very poor output indeed, on this occasion. Who manages this department? Get some processes in place!
Fancy proof reading it before sending it out :lol:
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Re: New BFC Membership scheme

Post by Nori1958 » Mon Jun 12, 2023 8:33 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Jun 12, 2023 6:33 pm
They might as well just throw all the loyalty schemes away if they are going to come up with that nonsense again
But you needed a certain amount of points before entering the ballot.......due to another clubs stupid allocation, let's not beat the club up for that one

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Re: New BFC Membership scheme

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 12, 2023 8:36 pm

Nori1958 wrote:
Mon Jun 12, 2023 8:33 pm
But you needed a certain amount of points before entering the ballot.......due to another clubs stupid allocation, let's not beat the club up for that one
Do me a favour please and stop replying to my posts. If not, one of us will be leaving.

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Re: New BFC Membership scheme

Post by Jamesy » Mon Jun 12, 2023 8:45 pm

Spijed wrote:
Mon Jun 12, 2023 4:24 pm
And what about Brentford? If you don't use your season ticket for a few games, despite paying for it, they can ban you from going on in future.
You wouldn’t want a long illness then if a Brentford supporter.

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Re: New BFC Membership scheme

Post by PaintYorkClaretnBlue » Mon Jun 12, 2023 8:50 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Jun 12, 2023 8:36 pm
Do me a favour please and stop replying to my posts. If not, one of us will be leaving.
Seriously? Are you really going to remove somebody for voicing a different opinion to you?
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Re: New BFC Membership scheme

Post by aggi » Mon Jun 12, 2023 9:00 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:23 pm
It does put you at the top I think but I’ve never used it. I believe there is just a limited number of tickets though.
I thought so, so paying for priority for away tickets is nothing new.

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Re: New BFC Membership scheme

Post by IanMcL » Mon Jun 12, 2023 9:06 pm

Duffer_ wrote:
Mon Jun 12, 2023 7:36 pm
Do you mean "message" (bessafe)?
Ha. Yes. Good spot. Type wrong letter and predictive text goes off on one!

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Re: New BFC Membership scheme

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 12, 2023 9:21 pm

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Mon Jun 12, 2023 8:50 pm
Seriously? Are you really going to remove somebody for voicing a different opinion to you?
No but you don’t know what’s been going on with this poster. Nothing to do with opinions.
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Re: New BFC Membership scheme

Post by welsbyswife » Mon Jun 12, 2023 9:26 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Mon Jun 12, 2023 7:32 pm
You would think that before putting it in their website, the club would actually test the bessafe to see if it is clear, unambiguous and easily understood. Very poor output indeed, on this occasion. Who manages this department? Get some processes in place!
Spot on. What they have put on the website is hopeless. The whole website is atrocious. Badly needs sorting out.

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Re: New BFC Membership scheme

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 12, 2023 9:29 pm

welsbyswife wrote:
Mon Jun 12, 2023 9:26 pm
Spot on. What they have put on the website is hopeless. The whole website is atrocious. Badly needs sorting out.
Difficult to disagree with that

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Re: New BFC Membership scheme

Post by welsbyswife » Mon Jun 12, 2023 9:38 pm

I ended up cancelling my Clarets + subscription because whenever I needed to listen to the commentary it wouldn't recognise that I was paying for the service. Despite the money coming out of my account. Customer service was shockingly bad so I just cancelled it in the end. I can live without Phil Bird.

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Re: New BFC Membership scheme

Post by welsbyswife » Mon Jun 12, 2023 9:39 pm

So no chance I'm stumping up for a membership until they indicate that they have got their act together. Which they clearly haven't judging by the details published so far.

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Re: New BFC Membership scheme

Post by TheOriginalLongsider » Mon Jun 12, 2023 9:49 pm

It’s going to be easy enough to get away tickets if we are not winning every match like last season. Bigger allocations as well (apart from a couple but even then I got tickets for Bournemouth without a problem)

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Re: New BFC Membership scheme

Post by fatboy47 » Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:00 pm

All a bit Lee Hoos-esque.
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Re: New BFC Membership scheme

Post by fatboy47 » Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:33 pm

Get over yerself.

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Re: New BFC Membership scheme

Post by Big Vinny K » Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:36 pm

Sounds like a Holly W speech
“Are you ok ?”……..

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Re: New BFC Membership scheme

Post by Nori1958 » Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:39 pm

Big Vinny K wrote:
Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:36 pm
Sounds like a Holly W speech
“Are you ok ?”……..
??.....

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Re: New BFC Membership scheme

Post by Nori1958 » Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:39 pm

fatboy47 wrote:
Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:33 pm
Get over yerself.
Ok..

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Re: New BFC Membership scheme

Post by Spike » Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:45 pm

Have season ticket holders rights just been destroyed overnight?
Does the current board hope that anyone wanting to go to away games will stump up extra money?
Very worrying .
Why haven’t the media team done a press release based on a film ?

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Re: New BFC Membership scheme

Post by steve_f » Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:57 pm

So i have been a clarets foundation member since its inception, used to get priority away tickets when there was a limit to I think 1200 members. I am probably throwing £104/year away now.

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