Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

[Herts Clarets]

It would appear we are signing yet another goalkeeper

BBC News - James Trafford: Burnley agree £15m fee for Manchester City & England Under-21 goalkeeper
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66093009

[Steve1956]

Looks good on YouTube..welcome.

[clarethomer]

Think we need a transfer thread.

[Tricky Trevor]

VK changing the face of football.
…Muric….Trafford
Coulibaly…Al-Dahkil…Beyer
Brownhill..Cullen..Vranxx
Benson…Tella…Zaroury

[Taffy on the wing]

Romano now confirming it’s almost done

https://twitter.com/fabrizioromano/stat ... 41261?s=46

What is?.......can't see any of these Twitter links.

[Hedontplayforyou]

Yes he is left footed but usually a centre back with very limited experience in matches and Borussia Dortmund seem keen to offload given he was contracted to 2026.

Did I read somehwere that he’d been subject to racist abuse gently and wanted to leave ?

[Spiral]

It's such a bonkers sum of money for us to spend on a GK that it's making me genuinely wonder if behind the scenes we've pulled down some Saudi Arabian team's pants and are sending them Wout for an actual profit or something. This is mad. Can only assume the analytics and scouting reports are showing something that suggests this lad has absolutely immense potential, because we can get goalkeepers who'd slip straight into the team for way less than £19m.

[RVclaret]

What is?.......can't see any of these Twitter links.

James Trafford is signing for us.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

What is?.......can't see any of these Twitter links.

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[Conroysleftfoot]

Could say the same about Ramsdale when Arsenal bought him. Appeared to be no other club chasing him-look at him now . He is one of the Prems best keepers. A few on here seem surprised, claiming Trafford has not played much competitive football in the higher leagues. Getting in to the England U-21's is some achievement if you look at the quality of players they have. I am sure they would give the England national team a good game. He could become some player, and where better to start strengthening than in the spine of your team. Now lets move to CM.

I wasn't questioning his ability, as you say he's performing well for the U21's, just thought we might be up against other clubs for his signature.

[GetIntoEm]

Got an article ready?

[RVclaret]

I wasn't questioning his ability, as you say he's performing well for the U21's, just thought we might be up against other clubs for his signature.

Leeds, Leicester, Sheff United and Boro were all in for him (according to reports over recent weeks).

[Hedontplayforyou]

Did I read somehwere that he’d been subject to racist abuse gently and wanted to leave ?

Recently* not gently

[LaLigaClaret]

Coulibaly signed on a free by Borussia Dortmund in 2021, only played twice for the first team and 16 times for the reserve team. His first team appearances included being entirely blamed for allowing a goal to be scored costing BD two points. Contracted to 2026 and now possibly coming on-loan with a must buy deal for15m Euro's which includes the loan fee. Another speculative deal which we hope VK gets right. He did miracles last year with his deals, so lets hope he manages it again.

[warksclaret]

Sounds like some of you preferred the Dale Stephens and Will Norris days

Add Joe Hart, Phil Bardsley , Eric Pieters, Weghorst, Gibson, Nahki Wells and you have the spine of a team

[SirBob]

Think we need a transfer thread.

As this appears to be a done deal think it’s worthy of its own thread.

Feel free to post the usual YouTube videos

15million, ridiculous

[Bordeauxclaret]

What is our current record fee?

[agreenwood]

I’m unconvinced there’s a correlation between what we’re spending on a GK and what that means for the rest of the window.

In a system like Kompany’s, the GK is vital. He may have seen the purchase as the top priority of the summer.

[FCBurnley]

Serious money for a 21 year old Trafford

[warksclaret]

I wasn't questioning his ability, as you say he's performing well for the U21's, just thought we might be up against other clubs for his signature.

Maybe we have been on this for a few weeks, and Pep managed to help out VK before it became common knowledge. Plus most of the top PL sides seem to already have good keepers, and Trafford thinks he has a good chance of starting with us

[Lord_Bob]

How much do you think we can get for Muric???

[Big Vinny K]

What is our current record fee?

£15m still I think.
Wood and Gibson both cost that.

[Conroysleftfoot]

Leeds, Leicester, Sheff United and Boro were all in for him (according to reports over recent weeks).

Fair enough, wasn't aware of that.

[boatshed bill]

I’m unconvinced there’s a correlation between what we’re spending on a GK and what that means for the rest of the window.

In a system like Kompany’s, the GK is vital. He may have seen the purchase as the top priority of the summer.

Where this leaves Muric is anyone's guess. Perhaps he's leaving?

[IanMcL]

I’m unconvinced there’s a correlation between what we’re spending on a GK and what that means for the rest of the window.

In a system like Kompany’s, the GK is vital. He may have seen the purchase as the top priority of the summer.

Yes but to sign 10 keepers is a bit OTT!

[LaLigaClaret]

I’m unconvinced there’s a correlation between what we’re spending on a GK and what that means for the rest of the window.

In a system like Kompany’s, the GK is vital. He may have seen the purchase as the top priority of the summer.

I would have thought replacing Barnes was the priority given our strikers are not likely to be scaring PL defenders to the core based on their performances for us so far. Yes JayRod scored goals but he is not likely to be ripping up trees this season.

[Spiral]

I’m unconvinced there’s a correlation between what we’re spending on a GK and what that means for the rest of the window.

In a system like Kompany’s, the GK is vital. He may have seen the purchase as the top priority of the summer.

It's a fair point. The difference in our overall build-up play last season when we had Muric in goal and BPF in goal was night and day, except our goalie is going to be doing a bit more goalkeeping this season, so there's a logic to making such an investment in that position because it's fundamental to our attacking game. It's just that the lad has barely any experience that's a bit of a worry, because the fee pretty much guarantees he's being brought in to be No1.

[warksclaret]

If this is indicative of the "pool we are fishing in" this transfer window, then for me this heightens the need to sell a few fringe players, or as a minimum loan out. Weghorst, Peacock Farrell, Taylor, Bastian, Vitinho, McNally, Egan Riley come to mind. The first three before their contracts end

[fatboy47]

It'll be interesting to see what kind of team can be built when we use the Prem millions for their intended purpose....ie funding football of a quality befitting the best football league in the world...

...as opposed to stacking it in the dry power store awaiting the chairman's planned smash and grab raid.

[Flying Without Ings]

Yes but to sign 10 keepers is a bit OTT!

It’s looking like BPF is on his way out so that leaves us with 3 first team keepers like any other team.

[wilks_bfc]

We've got McNally to help secure Flemming and cash could be raised on Duncan, Peacock-Farrell and Wout
Loaning out Wout is not a good idea when a permanent sale is much preferable.

I’m guessing that’s an autocorrect but I’m trying to work out who “Duncan” is

[gandhisflipflop]

Burnley fans “just spend some money!”

Also Burnley fans “no not that much!”

[agreenwood]

It's a fair point. The difference in our overall build-up play last season when we had Muric in goal and BPF in goal was night and day, except our goalie is going to be doing a bit more goalkeeping this season, so there's a logic to making such an investment in that position because it's fundamental to our attacking game. It's just that the lad has barely any experience that's a bit of a worry, because the fee pretty much guarantees he's being brought in to be No1.

Agreed, although it could be £15m over 3-4 years, which wouldn’t be that much if we stayed up for a few years and raked in the TV money.

I think it’s increasingly obvious that transfer fees are rocketing in the PL. You only have to look at Southampton’s spending last season. It was about £150m on barely anyone who had kicked a ball for a first team.

[Spiral]

You only have to look at Southampton’s spending last season. It was about £150m on barely anyone who had kicked a ball for a first team.

*nervously wipes sweat from forehead*

[Commy]

Do we not pay in installments? If we do, we won't actually be laying that much out straight away.

[Darnhill Claret]

I still feel that Muric starts with the jersey and Trafford has to win it from him. I think it makes us strong and James has moved to second choice at a Prem League team with the potential to become the number 1.

[Spiral]

Burnley fans “just spend some money!”

Also Burnley fans “no not that much!”

To be fair most of the comments are less "no not that much" and more '"Jesus Christ, I wasn't expecting that"

[Steve1956]

Burnley fans “just spend some money!”

Also Burnley fans “no not that much!”

Brilliant

[Commy]

Do we loan Casper out now?

[Flying Without Ings]

Do we not pay in installments? If we do, we won't actually be laying that much out straight away.

Most likely - I think nearly every transfer is done in instalments now.

[warksclaret]

We forget that moving up one position in the PL, can get you £2m per position. Where this keeper is meant to be exceptional are his reflexes, calmness and anticipation. He could easily secure us another 6-10 points in a season, plus one mistake in the PL can cost you 3 points. How many points did Heaton earn us when we finished 7th

[warksclaret]

I still feel that Muric starts with the jersey and Trafford has to win it from him. I think it makes us strong and James has moved to second choice at a Prem League team with the potential to become the number 1.

AGREED-unless as I posted above, Muric has upset the boss in some way

[FeedTheArf]

Burnley fans “just spend some money!”

Also Burnley fans “no not that much!”

You mock, but genuinely felt like that tonight!

[boatshed bill]

We forget that moving up one position in the PL, can get you £2m per position. Where this keeper is meant to be exceptional are his reflexes, calmness and anticipation. He could easily secure us another 6-10 points in a season, plus one mistake in the PL can cost you 3 points. How many points did Heaton earn us when we finished 7th

Most of them

[Spijed]

It'll be interesting to see what kind of team can be built when we use the Prem millions for their intended purpose....ie funding football of a quality befitting the best football league in the world...

...as opposed to stacking it in the dry power store awaiting the chairman's planned smash and grab raid.

But you need to keep some back, otherwise in case of relegation without an instant return we are basically knackered, as other clubs who spend without quite a bit in reserve are quickly finding out.

[KRBFC]

Some ambition if this is just a start, badly need quality in midfield and forward areas that I’d have prioritised way ahead of a new central defender and GK. Desperately need a LB too.

So, first choice ST, LB and CM to go. Cover for Zaroury LW and maybe even a first choice RW given Benson was largely used from the bench with Tella starting.

Also I feel sorry for Muric, whilst being excited about Trafford. Hopefully there’s plenty left for further key reinforcements. This is proper recruitment, some top young talents from around Europe, so exciting to see them develop here. Hats off to Pace, VK and the recruitment team.

[KRBFC]

But you need to keep some back, otherwise in case of relegation without an instant return we are basically knackered, as other clubs who spend without quite a bit in reserve are quickly finding out.

What’s the difference between storing it in the dry powder reserves and investing it into too young footballers?

One significantly helps the footballing side and hopefully helps avoid relegation. Players don’t suddenly become worthless once you sign them.

[boatshed bill]

But you need to keep some back, otherwise in case of relegation without an instant return we are basically knackered, as other clubs who spend without quite a bit in reserve are quickly finding out.

I would agree with that if I hadn't seen our transformation last season.

[Hedontplayforyou]

For those thinking that we are doing our business in order of priority I wouldn’t worry. Deals take time to complete , some are quicker than others , all for varying reasons .

[JohnDearyMe]

AGREED-unless as I posted above, Muric has upset the boss in some way

Tough one. I thought Muric improved as the season went on but maybe Kompany is just sceptical about how well he'll perform when under a lot more pressure?