Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

[Jakubs Tash]

It’s more likely that Redmond would be signed as an upgrade/replacement for Churlinov rather than instead of Tella.

Would be an excellent signing for a 9 man bench.

[Lancasterclaret]

Happy enough with Redmond to be honest

Certainly better than Townsend

[burnley007]

I'm really hoping for some positive movements this week. VK needs to get some time to work his tactics with the players

[Pearcey]

I'm really hoping for some positive movements this week. VK needs to get some time to work his tactics with the players

I hope for a positive movement everyday. Think that’s what happens when you get into your 50’s!

[Darnhill Claret]

We didn't buy anyone last season with parachute payments as we didn't receive any.

[123EasyasBFC]

We didn't buy anyone last season with parachute payments as we didn't receive any.

That’s a myth we did receive parachute payments, kompany also referenced the parachute payments being used to pay the off in a press conference

[Wokingclaret]

That’s a myth we did receive parachute payments, kompany also referenced the parachute payments being used to pay the off in a press conference

Believe so, the remaining years are shared by the Championship clubs

[Newcastleclaret93]

Wonder if Burnley might be one of the teams in for Scott.

Would certainly suit VKs style

[agreenwood]

Not at £25m we won’t be.

Transfer fees have kicked on again in the 12 months we’ve been out of the league.

[Pickles]

Wonder if Burnley might be one of the teams in for Scott.

Would certainly suit VKs style

Bristol City want at least £25m, Wolves and others in for him. Doubt A) we'd be one of them and B) he'd choose us over others.

[123EasyasBFC]

Wonder if Burnley might be one of the teams in for Scott.

Would certainly suit VKs style

I think Scott being quoted at 25mil isn’t helping the rest of fees in the championship, bit like when McCormack went to Fulham and then when Watkins went to villa

[Newcastleclaret93]

I’m just thinking is this the reason we are going for Townsend and Redmond in the wide areas, so that we can go big on a primary target for VK. I could see Scott being someone VK wants

[TsarBomba]

I’m just thinking is this the reason we are going for Townsend and Redmond in the wide areas, so that we can go big on a primary target for VK. I could see Scott being someone VK wants

100%

[bfcjg]

If Scott is valued at 25 million and is sold for anywhere near that price ,then football is well and truly on the road to ruin.

[roperclaret]

100%

I’d really hope that for £25 million we would be looking to bring in a much more proven established midfielder. Not a 19 year old with potential.

[Culmclaret]

The way Scott picked out Twine in the build up to our second at Ashton Gate perhaps he thought he was already playing for us….

[Newcastleclaret93]

I’d really hope that for £25 million we would be looking to bring in a much more proven established midfielder. Not a 19 year old with potential.

I get why he’s that expensive. Hes certainly got the pedigree to be an excellent premier league player.

[roperclaret]

I get why he’s that expensive. Hes certainly got the pedigree to be an excellent premier league player.

what pedigree. An almost identical profile (perhaps lesser) than Brownhill when we bought him. And you don’t think he’s good enough.

[Newcastleclaret93]

what pedigree. An almost identical profile (perhaps lesser) than Brownhill when we bought him. And you don’t think he’s good enough.

How do you get that?

He’s played two full seasons of championship level football at 19 years old and played for England u20s.

Brownhill hadn’t made a single championship level appearance until he was 21.

That’s not even a remotely similar profile

[Casper2]

Happy enough with Redmond to be honest

Certainly better than Townsend

Based on ?

[nyclaret]

Wonder if Burnley might be one of the teams in for Scott.

Would certainly suit VKs style

Didn't Andy Jones say recently that we won't sign anyone for more than 20m?

[Newcastleclaret93]

Didn't Andy Jones say recently that we won't sign anyone for more than 20m?

No idea

I could understand if that is true

[claretspice]

Redmond is a decent player with good Premier League pedigree (and no less than Pep is on record thinking he's a better player than given credit for). No accident Saints were relegated the year they let him go.

We've got to accept we have a limited budget, doubtless made more limited by the fact that since ALK took over, debt finance has become significantly more expensive/difficult. If we are spending big on a keeper, having already spent sizeable money on Bayer and O'Shea, then we're going to have to be pragmatic in a couple of areas. If say Kompany wants the lad from Metz and that's going to be a real significant fee, or to spend big on the lad from Millwall, or for the midfielder at Wolfsburg - we are going to have to cut our cloth elsewhere. Not every player we sign this summer can be part of the money ball plan - we can't afford the capital for that.

Not chasing Tella to ridiculous fees, and signing =
Redmond on a free instead, might well be a sensible part of that balancing act. After all, this is the player who a season ago kept Tella out of the Southampton team.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Based on ?

Townsend hasn’t played for 18 mths and wasn’t pulling up trees before he got injured

[roperclaret]

How do you get that?

He’s played two full seasons of championship level football at 19 years old and played for England u20s.

Brownhill hadn’t made a single championship level appearance until he was 21.

That’s not even a remotely similar profile

Alex Scott

Released by both Southampton and Bournemouth academies.
Rocked up playing for Guernsey in non league.
Two Seasons at Bristol City - their fans think he’s good.

Josh Brownhill.

Released by Man Utd Academy
Rocked up at Preston in League 2
3 Seasons at Bristol City - their fans though he was good.

Pretty similar other than Brownhill did Two years grounding in league 1 whereas Scott did 6 months in non league

[Lancasterclaret]

Based on ?

Younger, more highly rated and not been out for 18 months

[Casper2]

Younger, more highly rated and not been out for 18 months

I don’t think either fit Vinny’s criteria

[randomclaret2]

Norwich winger Christos Tzolis linked.

[Lancasterclaret]

I don’t think either fit Vinny’s criteria

Well, I think Spice has nailed the reasons why he's under consideration

Tella, Maatsen and THB all did so well for us last season that they are now essentially out of our price range

We buy low and sell high now

[Jakubclaret]

Townsend hasn’t played for 18 mths and wasn’t pulling up trees before he got injured

He started life at Everton in blistering form scoring some good goals before he got injured.

[roperclaret]

Well, I think Spice has nailed the reasons why he's under consideration

Tella, Maatsen and THB all did so well for us last season that they are now essentially out of our price range

We buy low and sell high now

Do we? Who have we done that with?

[Casper2]

We buy low and sell high now

So that rules out Townsend and Redmond then

[Newcastleclaret93]

Darren Witcoop:

Burnley see free agent winger Nathan Redmond as a cheaper alternative to Nathan Tella, who is being priced out of return from Southampton. #Burnley

[Pearcey]

Norwich winger Christos Tzolis linked.

He certainly hasn’t pulled up any trees at Norwich.

[Lancasterclaret]

Do we? Who have we done that with?

We haven't sold anyone yet tbf!

Give them a chance!

But that is the plan going forward from what I can see

[Lancasterclaret]

So that rules out Townsend and Redmond then

Not sure how that makes any sense when both are on frees

Townsend has no resale value, Redmond possibly still has, especially if he can return to the levels he used to be at

[Jakubclaret]

Not sure how that makes any sense when both are on frees

Townsend has no resale value, Redmond possibly still has, especially if he can return to the levels he used to be at

It's a very weak argument regarding any sort of resale with either, they are free because nobody really wants them, if any sale could be realised both wouldn't be in the position they are in now.

[RVclaret]

It's a very weak argument regarding any sort of resale with either, they are free because nobody really wants them, if any sale could be realised both wouldn't be in the position they are in now.

Mike McGrath literally said Burnley face lots of competition to sign Redmond.

[roperclaret]

We haven't sold anyone yet tbf!

Give them a chance!

But that is the plan going forward from what I can see

I’m not sure. Yes, last year we bought cheap (we didn’t have any money) This year we seem to be around the £12 - £15 mill mark (Beyer, Trafford, Coulibaly, O’Shea and some of the others we have reportedly interest in). Not Cheap. Or free older players (Townsend, Redmond) with no resale value. Now maybe there is profit to be had in the future on those £15 mill players, but it doesn’t seem to fit Buy cheap and sell high.

[randomclaret2]

It's a very weak argument regarding any sort of resale with either, they are free because nobody really wants them, if any sale could be realised both wouldn't be in the position they are in now.

Messi has just moved on a free

[Casper2]

Not sure how that makes any sense when both are on frees

Townsend has no resale value, Redmond possibly still has, especially if he can return to the levels he used to be at

Wow

[Lancasterclaret]

I’m not sure. Yes, last year we bought cheap (we didn’t have any money) This year we seem to be around the £12 - £15 mill mark (Beyer, Trafford, Coulibaly, O’Shea and some of the others we have reportedly interest in). Not Cheap. Or free older players (Townsend, Redmond) with no resale value. Now maybe there is profit to be had in the future on those £15 mill players, but it doesn’t seem to fit Buy cheap and sell high.

I think (with good seasons) you can see the values of those players increase

[Newcastleclaret93]

Mike McGrath literally said Burnley face lots of competition to sign Redmond.

Tbf RV that’s competition to sign someone on a free.

Not a sale as per what Jakub said

[Jakubclaret]

Mike McGrath literally said Burnley face lots of competition to sign Redmond.

Is he an agent? Facing competition doesn't mean resale value it means he's a good bet at just paying his wages for the job he does, I'm not against freebies but when you are done with them that's it.

[randomclaret2]

The likes of Trafford and Beyer will be worth double what we have paid in 12 months if they have good seasons

[taio]

It's a very weak argument regarding any sort of resale with either, they are free because nobody really wants them, if any sale could be realised both wouldn't be in the position they are in now.

Redmond is on a free as he only agreed a 12 month contract with Besiktas. As for no interest, Wolves, Forest and Burnley have been linked with him.

[Jakubclaret]

Redmond is on a free as he only agreed a 12 month contract with Besiktas. As for no interest, Wolves, Forest and Burnley have been linked with him.

I'm not disputing that as a free agent it's hardly surprising pay the man his wages he'll do a fair job & assist & score the odd goal. I dispute the argument promoting him on a resale basis.

[taio]

I'm not disputing that as a free agent it's hardly surprising pay the man his wages he'll do a fair job & assist & score the odd goal. I dispute the argument promoting him on a resale basis.

You said Redmond he is on a free because no one really wants him. That's incorrect - he's on a free because he only signed a one year contract and it appears PL clubs are interested in him.

[roperclaret]

The likes of Trafford and Beyer will be worth double what we have paid in 12 months if they have good seasons

Yep, IF, many expensive young players have gone the other way as well.

[willsclarets]

The likes of Trafford and Beyer will be worth double what we have paid in 12 months if they have good seasons

No idea on Trafford yet, but Beyer could easily go right to the top. Would not surprise me one bit if he ends his career with a champions league medal and a lot of caps for Germany