Real Betis v Burnley (pre-season friendly) Match thread

Vino blanco · Post by **Vino blanco** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:31 pm

We have hardly made a pass to each other in midfield, where is Cullen? Foster and the new lad living of scraps. Their player deserved to be sent off, he made four or five nasty tackles before the last one which was brutal. Yellow possibly for JBG for kicking out.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:31 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:22 pm
I assume that cards in these games don't count ?

Kyle Lafferty was sent off in a friendly in Austria in 2007 and started the season with a three match ban. The rules might have changed since.

123EasyasBFC · Post by **123EasyasBFC** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:31 pm

With all the wingers we are rumoured to end up with wouldn’t mind seeing zaroury in the number 10

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:32 pm

TheOriginalLongsider wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:29 pm
He was given a yellow but the ref changed it to red after a minute or so. Think it was the 4th official who saw it.

To be fair, had JBG not tried to stud him the Betis chap wouldn't have reacted the way he did.

Rumbletonk · Post by **Rumbletonk** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:32 pm

That was one dreadful half. Not sure what we were trying to achieve with that but VK will know more than he did before, no doubt. JBK kicked out, red card. Their lad went in with his head, red card. Both pathetic. Now a non event

Tribesmen · Post by **Tribesmen** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:33 pm

Well a bitty kind of a game , lets face it it's like beach football as there is so much sand on the pitch .
As for the sending offs well the ref got it right .

Leisure · Post by **Leisure** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:33 pm

Rumbletonk wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:32 pm
That was one dreadful half. Not sure what we were trying to achieve with that but VK will know more than he did before, no doubt. JBK kicked out, red card. Their lad went in with his head, red card. Both pathetic. Now a non event

How is it a non-event?

StayingDown4Ever · Post by **StayingDown4Ever** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:33 pm

For those watching on YouTube - has my stream frozen or are we all just on the green backdrop until they come out for the second half?

I appreciate there won’t be half time analysis but sometimes they just show highlights don’t they.

Hedontplayforyou · Post by **Hedontplayforyou** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:33 pm

Fitness for some and also for Roberts probably keeping him on his toes for when he moves into the midfield from right back. Al Dakhil also coming inside at times gaining experience of that. May well be that Al-Dakhil and roberts rotate the right back role this season

Anthonini · Post by **Anthonini** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:34 pm

A lack of creativity in the back and in the midfield so the upfront players touch a ball every 5-10 minutes.

Seeing this first half I'm starting to think Trésor is a necessity for this team. He's the guy you give the ball to and he'll do something good with it distributing it over a long distance.

A defender like THB or Zeno Debast or Mark McKenzie would distribute more from the back as well. Vitinho is not a player with alot of vision on the pitch either.

Trafford still a bit timid but already taking the role of distributing the ball sometimes even more so than the defenders. This is wrong imo, the defenders should take their responsibility and play deep instead of tapping around. When VK was still playing he would blast around 60m cross passes even on the volley. No messing around.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:34 pm

It's very difficult to see what we are trying to achieve.
We can only hope that the 2nd half is better.
O'Shea excellent so far.

daveisaclaret · Post by **daveisaclaret** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:35 pm

Why is everyone so convinced the game is ruined?

bf2k · Post by **bf2k** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:35 pm

Burnley1989 wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:25 pm
I probably witnessed what everyone else did, JG kicked out when getting up, he knew exactly what he was doing

Didn't see that and haven't seen a reply or anything to confirm.

Can't get why they've been sent off. Instruct the managers to take them off and not bring them back on. Simple.

Hedontplayforyou · Post by **Hedontplayforyou** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:37 pm

Two reds 100% but ref should have walked over and told the managers to sub them or they’d be sent off.

tally · Post by **tally** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:37 pm

its all in the heat of the moment. Actually a more experienced ref would have brought both team managers together with both of the players and requested a substitution of both players immediately.

Spiral · Post by **Spiral** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:37 pm

O'Shea looks similar to Tarky. Does the basic stuff really well, some big tackles, good positioning.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:38 pm

bf2k wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:35 pm
Didn't see that and haven't seen a reply or anything to confirm.

Can't get why they've been sent off. Instruct the managers to take them off and not bring them back on. Simple.

There are posts confirming that JBG was very naughty,
and I totally agree about keeping the game 11 vs 11, unless the rules on friendlies don't allow it.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:38 pm

tally wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:37 pm
its all in the heat of the moment. Actually a more experienced ref would have brought both team managers together with both of the players and requested a substitution of both players immediately.

I think you are right

tally · Post by **tally** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:39 pm

Should be fun Corky is now on!

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:40 pm

Few changes here.

Taylor left back, Koleosho left mid, Cork centre mid, Twine with Foster

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:40 pm

Ekdal too

Roosterbooster · Post by **Roosterbooster** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:40 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:31 pm
With all the wingers we are rumoured to end up with wouldn’t mind seeing zaroury in the number 10

100%

He came inside at times last season and looked superb
His touch and balance are perfect for that position

Spiral · Post by **Spiral** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:40 pm

If the ref is going strictly by the letter of the law then that kickoff was illegal as the taker passed it forward into our half to a player who was in our half.

bfcmik · Post by **bfcmik** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:42 pm

Spiral wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:40 pm
If the ref is going strictly by the letter of the law then that kickoff was illegal as the taker passed it forward into our half to a player who was in our half.

As long as a part of the players foot is touching the half way line he is legal

Rumbletonk · Post by **Rumbletonk** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:43 pm

Leisure wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:33 pm
How is it a non-event?

Because its 10 v 10. He probably plans around 11 v 11. Now he changes to suit a 10 man formation versus an an opponent with 10 men.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:44 pm

Ooops.

kipp · Post by **kipp** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:44 pm

Spiral · Post by **Spiral** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:44 pm

bfcmik wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:42 pm
As long as a part of the players foot is touching the half way line he is legal

He was about 2ft in our half. Nowhere near the half way line. I don't care, just the ref doesn't know what he's doing.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:45 pm

Own goal Trafford

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:45 pm

Ohhh Trafford.... Oops.

Childzy · Post by **Childzy** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:45 pm

Trafford having a great start at BFC

Leisure · Post by **Leisure** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:45 pm

Good job it's not Muric!

HahaYeah · Post by **HahaYeah** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:45 pm

WTH was that.

Casper2 · Post by **Casper2** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:45 pm

Oh dear Trafford

Spiral · Post by **Spiral** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:45 pm

Trafford should be saving that.

Belgianclaret · Post by **Belgianclaret** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:45 pm

MUUURRICCC

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:45 pm

What a goal

tally · Post by **tally** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:45 pm

emmmm

SussexDon1inIreland · Post by **SussexDon1inIreland** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:46 pm

1-1 shocking mistake by Trafford

simonclaret · Post by **simonclaret** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:46 pm

OG, yes, but that's some shot from the halfway line.

HahaYeah · Post by **HahaYeah** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:46 pm

Good shot tbf.

StayingDown4Ever · Post by **StayingDown4Ever** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:46 pm

Rather embarrassing for the keeper that one.

daveisaclaret · Post by **daveisaclaret** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:46 pm

That is a proper shocker. Poor kid.

Gordaleman · Post by **Gordaleman** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:46 pm

What a howler. Bring back Muric.

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:46 pm

That’s a bad ‘un from Trafford.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:46 pm

We paid how much ?

123EasyasBFC · Post by **123EasyasBFC** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:46 pm

Nothing so far in a game and half that shows Trafford should be ahead of muric

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:46 pm

Get Muric back in nets. Absolutely no question about who is number 1 in my opinion.

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:46 pm

17 million.... Bit harsh but he has to deal with that, simple stuff.

Elbarad · Post by **Elbarad** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:46 pm

Rather he gets his humble pie in the preseason than in the league I guess. Wow