Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

[Quicknick]

It says on Wiki that Gnonto is 4ft 11. Surely that can't be true.

[RVclaret]

Kompany confirms we are ‘close’ to signing Aaron Ramsey

[northernpowerhouse]

Gnonto would be a no from me.
There’s a reason Leeds got him so cheap despite him appearing for the Italian national team

Yeah it's because he was playing for a Swiss side and was in the last year of his contract. He's quality.

[Im_not_Robbie_Blake]

Gnonto the gnome

[Clive 1960]

There is always risk involved, whether you spend everything, half or nothing as we saw under Garlick. The risks are different and are taken for differing reasons and circumstances.

Your no risk view is based on the idea of being able to sell on in case of relegation and then essentially do a rinse and repeat of last season - but repeating is the extremely hard bit and you have to ask who would be here to do that?

Equally there is the chance that the season goes well but we do not have the funds to build on the momentum in the following season - the key will be how much we can grow revenues and the cash balance, the club appear to be working hard on the former - one way of doing the latter is to bring on board more co-owners and repay the debt,

I offer no opinion on either, it is the choice of the incumbents and we know that they are resourceful

Risks essentially are taken in line with personalities of the board - the current board is currently aggressive/confident in its abilities and the capabilities of the club under their watch so that informs their approach. The previous board started out aggressive under Kilby but had its fingers badly burned so became more cautious and sought to build a funding base to cover all costs taken on if the unexpected happened (which they did very successfully). It will be interesting to see how the current board develops in its approach over time.

Maybe we are still open to investment from my side of the world Asia as Mr Pace knows a investor who was thinking of investing before we got relegated and maybe that speeded up the sacking of Mr Dyche, but could be all gossip just have to wait and see .

[jedi_master]

VK press conference, confirmed Ramsay is close. Questioned on Tella & Maatsen he said that they aren’t our players ‘at the moment’

Haha, he has us on strings

I doubt Tella is coming back but we do seem to retain a desire to take Maatsen on loan judging by the mention of West Ham 'competing' with us for him.

[davideyresleftear]

Gnonto would be a no from me.
There’s a reason Leeds got him so cheap despite him appearing for the Italian national team, there’s also a reason despite there struggles last year why he spent plenty of time starting as a sub for more than one of their managers. His output of goals and assists from March is very poor. You then throw in him not wanting to play last night. Attitude must be questionable. He’s very raw and direct but not sure he’s what we need around our squad.

You could say that about Vardy, Kante, and Mahrez on cheap fees. Sometimes scouts just get it right

[Penwortham_Claret]

Haha, he has us on strings

I doubt Tella is coming back but we do seem to retain a desire to take Maatsen on loan judging by the mention of West Ham 'competing' with us for him.

Lots of mixed messages, it’s difficult to be sure what is going to happen. Regardless, it’s been a fantastic window and it is going to be an exciting season ahead

[bumba]

There is always risk involved, whether you spend everything, half or nothing as we saw under Garlick. The risks are different and are taken for differing reasons and circumstances.

Your no risk view is based on the idea of being able to sell on in case of relegation and then essentially do a rinse and repeat of last season - but repeating is the extremely hard bit and you have to ask who would be here to do that?

Equally there is the chance that the season goes well but we do not have the funds to build on the momentum in the following season - the key will be how much we can grow revenues and the cash balance, the club appear to be working hard on the former - one way of doing the latter is to bring on board more co-owners and repay the debt,

I offer no opinion on either, it is the choice of the incumbents and we know that they are resourceful

Risks essentially are taken in line with personalities of the board - the current board is currently aggressive/confident in its abilities and the capabilities of the club under their watch so that informs their approach. The previous board started out aggressive under Kilby but had its fingers badly burned so became more cautious and sought to build a funding base to cover all costs taken on if the unexpected happened (which they did very successfully). It will be interesting to see how the current board develops in its approach over time.

I don't believe we'd repeat last season if we went down, personally think if we went back down we'd lose VK and we'd struggle for years but financially I think we'd be sound by selling the players on.
My point was based purely on finances.
Our future incomings next summer onward will be dictated by money brought in from this and the last windows players bought being sold on

[Pickles]

It says on Wiki that Gnonto is 4ft 11. Surely that can't be true.

I've met Gnonto and his parents, lovely people. Not sure about 4ft11 but he's definitely dinky.

[Carwin261]

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[FeedTheArf]

Kompany confirms we are ‘close’ to signing Aaron Ramsey

Where can you watch the press conference??

[RVclaret]

Gnonto is 5 9

[RVclaret]

Where can you watch the press conference??

Bits were on SSN.

[KRBFC]

Are buy-back clauses often triggered? I’m struggling to think of a single example.

Real Madrid triggered buy back this summer to bring back left back Fran Garcia, PSG triggered their buyback to get Xavi Simons back too.

[ervi34]

Gnonto would be a no from me.
There’s a reason Leeds got him so cheap despite him appearing for the Italian national team

We should also bin Benson, Zaroury and Cullen if that's the case.

[KRBFC]

Buendia ACL…

Looks like they are keen on signing a replacement, Romano said they are in for Zaniolo from Roma.

Zaniolo plays for Galatasaray not Roma, he left in January so that sounds like fake news.

[RVclaret]

Zaniolo plays for Galatasaray not Roma, he left in January so that sounds like fake news.

Sorry, I should have said Gala. Negotiations ongoing with Gala.

[Commy]

Where can you watch the press conference??

You could previously watch them on YouTube but there is nothing there.

[burnmark]

You could previously watch them on YouTube but there is nothing there.

Lancs Live were also a good source for the pre match press conference but since their previous reporter left for the MEN their coverage of the club has reduced significantly.

[arise_sir_charge]

VK saying that Ramsey is close is effectively saying it’s done. That’s because it is.

[thehistorylecturer63]

You’d hope so at this stage

[Quickenthetempo]

VK saying that Ramsey is close is effectively saying it’s done. That’s because it is.

Yeah it's not often managers talk about other clubs players.

[RVclaret]

VK saying that Ramsey is close is effectively saying it’s done. That’s because it is.

Let’s hope Lokonga is ‘close’ too then

[Down_Rover]

Jude Bellingham
Declan Rice
Jack Grealish

Any English strikers gone for more?

Harry Kane?

[claretburns]

Harry Kane?

According to SSN he will be going nowhere.

[claretonthecoast1882]

If I had to think of English footballers least likely to go play in a foreign country Kane would figure right near the top of it.

I would be more surprised if he didn't sign a new deal at Spurs and see out his career there.

[martin_p]

According to SSN he will be going nowhere.

I’m not sure why he’d go to Bayern to be honest. Yes he’d probably pick up silverware but winning the German league with Bayern is no great achievement, think they’ve won over 50% of German league titles.

[Down_Rover]

According to SSN he will be going nowhere.

Talkshite saying deal agreed at 100m euros

[Down_Rover]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football

[claretburns]

Talkshite saying deal agreed at 100m euros

Reported the fee has been agreed and apparently Kane had a verbal agreement on personal terms but being reported he has had a change of heart and wishes to stay at Tottenham.

[Pickles]

If I had to think of English footballers least likely to go play in a foreign country Kane would figure right near the top of it.

I've always thought this, seems a proper homebird.

[Vegas Claret]

and now Man United can play as they know the accepted price

[Neil]

Not a chance Bayern would have spent 2 months negotiating a fee if Kane had no intention of going there.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

I’m not sure why he’d go to Bayern to be honest. Yes he’d probably pick up silverware but winning the German league with Bayern is no great achievement, think they’ve won over 50% of German league titles.

The alternative is winning nothing at Spurs….

[Tricky Trevor]

Kane will want the PL all time goals scorer record. I can see him staying this season and seeing what his options are next Summer. He’d be a fool to sign a new contract now with that clown Levy still running the show.

[martin_p]

The alternative is winning nothing at Spurs….

But he’ll live off his own personal scoring record in the Premier League.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

But he’ll live off his own personal scoring record in the Premier League.

Sounds great….

[KlyBfc]

We should also bin Benson, Zaroury and Cullen if that's the case.

Interesting not sure any of them ever played for the Italian national team

[dandeclaret]

Surely the Kane stuff is one of 2 things

1) Maneuvering the deal so that another team (Utd likely) are aware what they need to pay

or

2) Confirmation of a valuation of him as a player that his agents can work into a deal next year - eg, Bayern were going to pay £100m and £300k over 5 years - next year you don't have to pay £100m, but can add an extra £70m in wages to the £300k for the next 5 years

[KlyBfc]

You could say that about Vardy, Kante, and Mahrez on cheap fees. Sometimes scouts just get it right

Vardy and Kante weren’t internationals at the time though. Gnonto was l, and my main point remains despite Leeds struggle’s consecutive managers stuck him on the bench for a reason, and his output and performances from March onwards were inconsistent verging on poor.

I’m just not sure he’s all that. I could see why a team would have as an impact player (direct raw etc) when a game is stretched but he likely thinks he’s more important than that.

[martin_p]

You could previously watch them on YouTube but there is nothing there.

Press conference on YouTube now.

[Woodleyclaret]

Why are we even posting Spurs news? Talkshite can do all the Spurs/Manure / Liverpool crap .

[roperclaret]

Harry Kane?

It’s still less?

[Taffy on the wing]

Any news on Lokonga?.........i don't see anything in the press.

[equinox]

2) Confirmation of a valuation of him as a player that his agents can work into a deal next year - eg, Bayern were going to pay £100m and £300k over 5 years - next year you don't have to pay £100m, but can add an extra £70m in wages to the £300k for the next 5 years

Exactly this bit.

Kane wants that transfer fee for himself, ideally off Real Madrid next summer.

[whiffa]

Anyone else just get a notification from the Official Twitter account saying "2023 Squad List Official Announcement", which was then immediately deleted?
Would suggest we already have our set squad list sorted? Or do we think this can be adjusted again after tomorrow's game?

[Commy]

Someone has asked Nixon on Twitter if there are any left backs linked with Burnley and the only answer was Maatsen. Might have all of our eggs in one basket on this one.

[martin_p]

Someone has asked Nixon on Twitter if there are any left backs linked with Burnley and the only answer was Maatsen. Might have all of our eggs in one basket on this one.

Or Nixon doesn’t know. Berge said in his interview that he knew of Burnley’s interest for a while, but then we only knew about it when the deal was probably already done. Suspect there may be more players than we know about that we’re looking at.

[claretburns]

Anyone else just get a notification from the Official Twitter account saying "2023 Squad List Official Announcement", which was then immediately deleted?
Would suggest we already have our set squad list sorted? Or do we think this can be adjusted again after tomorrow's game?

At the moment I am sure you don't need a 25 man squad list, this is confirmed after the transfer window closes.