Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

[ksrclaret]

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/burnley ... on_id/2023

So with this Dodi bloke and Ramsey we’re looking at another 25m on top of the already circa 80m spend. If Odobert comes off we’re looking at a total of 115m spend and that’s before a left back!

It doesn’t matter how much is spread over the life of the contracts that is a significant chunk of change, especially when our wages will have gone up significantly.

Just where is the money coming from?!?

It does all feel like a real gamble this summer. Using, or committing to using, most of the prem money for 2023/24. We're buying lots of saleable assets though even if the worst happens, look at Soton.

Exciting but scary. We're not used to this at Burnley.

[boatshed bill]

It does all feel like a real gamble this summer. Using, or committing to using, most of the prem money for 2023/24. We're buying lots of saleable assets though even if the worst happens, look at Soton.

Exciting but scary. We're not used to this at Burnley.

Spending our guaranteed TV income? Better than underspending and getting relegated.
Assuming we stay up these signings will increase several-fold in the next couple of seasons.

[ksrclaret]

Spending our guaranteed TV income? Better than underspending and getting relegated.
Assuming we stay up these signings will increase several-fold in the next couple of seasons.

Nobody wants to go back to the Garlick era, well maybe Spijed (only joking ), but you can't deny spending up carries risk as well.

Exciting times, to coin a well-used phrase on here, but still scary for naturally cautious carols like me.

[whiffa]

I for one am extremely pleased with this transfer window, all we need to make it an 11/10 is a left back. Assuming Ramsey comes in.

[Tricky Trevor]

Liverpool Echo reporting Everton have been told by DL that Gnonto is not for sale.
I’m sure I’ve heard that line before.

[DCWat]

A few of us have long advocated a policy of buying young and selling for a profit - it’s a model that smaller clubs, without hugely wealthy benefactors, probably have to follow if they are to get quality on the pitch and bring more money into the club. We were often told that it couldn’t be done.

This is in no way a look, I told you so, type post. What we have done, and appear to be continuing to do this summer, is as exciting as it it is risky. The approach we have taken has far exceeded the sort of risk that I’ve advocated in the past.

All we can do is trust those in power, and to be fair after last season, they have earned a good portion of that.

We’re on the sort of ride that I never expected to see at my club. There are plenty of horror stories of clubs going for broke, but somehow, I have a bit of faith in the process and think we will be alright.

Whether we can continue to do this long term is more debatable. I just hope that if we do falter, we’ve not got a **** tonne of expensive egg on our face.

[CrosspoolClarets]

I’m a lot more comfortable going for it with young assets rather than ageing journeymen paid a huge wage. That seems to be the way many clubs have failed in the past. At least ours have a resale value and not huge wages,

I thought at the start of this window, and think I suggested on here how it was financially possible, that we would spend £100m. Looks like that will be spot on more or less.

Whether the youngsters can do it at this level against the calibre they are up against, well, it will be fun finding out.

[CoolClaret]

A few of us have long advocated a policy of buying young and selling for a profit - it’s a model that smaller clubs, without hugely wealthy benefactors, probably have to follow if they are to get quality on the pitch and bring more money into the club. We were often told that it couldn’t be done.

We were one of the original clubs to do this way back in the day.

We also did it under Dyche (not to this extent mind) - the only reason we had windows getting senior pros on frees only is because he didn’t have funds allocated.

We’re leveraging a lot of money in the hope that VK can transform these lads into stars - so far so good but as you say a risky strategy.

It’s easier to do when it’s not your own money of course - my only concern is that we won’t be cash healthy I don’t think ever again. Just a ton of cash-flow in every which way… it’s fine as long as we remain in the PL / Yo-Yo ing

[GodIsADeeJay81]

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/burnley ... on_id/2023

So with this Dodi bloke and Ramsey we’re looking at another 25m on top of the already circa 80m spend. If Odobert comes off we’re looking at a total of 115m spend and that’s before a left back!

It doesn’t matter how much is spread over the life of the contracts that is a significant chunk of change, especially when our wages will have gone up significantly.

Just where is the money coming from?!?

We haven’t spent all of the £115million this window
A lot of that money is spread out over 3/4/5yr payment terms, that’s the standard way transfer fees are paid.
We made a lot more than we spent last summer and saved a fortune on wages, so our kitty was built up for this summer.

We’re also potentially going to sell some this summer and that will offset some of the spending

Our owners have been working hard to increase the clubs revenue streams via various methods including better sponsorship deals etc

We’ll have to wait until the accounts are released in a couple of years but we’ll probably see a revenue increase in some aspects.

They’ve been derided on here in the past, but our owners are money men, they’re used to handling large amounts of money and finding ways to increase said amounts of money.

They’ve now built up a squad of young, exciting players that can be sold for big amounts of money
As Will Lancaster said on the twitter post I linked earlier, we have a lot of players with big resale values now and that’s a very good position to be in

[Commy]

That 80m is Euros which equates to about £67m so it isn't as bad as it looks, yet. Watching the Mission to Burnley, VK said that we would need to sell 3 to 4 players a year to start making the club viable, and have some ready to step in. Seems to be what they are doing now.

[Iloveyoubrady]

Having heard VKs press conference today talking about Berge, I’m really excited about this signing. Saying he’s good value as he is and will be a good player for us, but if he releases his potential he could be unbelievable.

Just seen this yt comp and he looks like he has all the attributes to be a classy all round midfielder.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q6TcJ_tR6YY

[TheFamilyCat]

Don't want to put a Mission to Burnley spoiler on here but the strategy is clear. The biggest income stream after TV money is player sales. Just relies on the players doing enough to increase their value.

[FeedTheArf]

Exciting but scary. We're not used to this at Burnley.

That about sums it up for me!

Yes the fees will be paid over several years but it’s still going to be coming out of the bank account at some point.

I mean, on paper, this is exactly what a club of our stature should be doing. Buying young players with potential to develop and sell on and Kompany has definitely earned some trust and credit for bringing quality players in. I don’t for one second thing there is any element of our business this summer that hasn’t been calculated and thoroughly thought through.

For a guy who doesn’t even have a credit card, this level of spending is going to take some getting used to!

[IanMcL]

Wilson Odobert, the former PSG starlet who scored four goals and set up two more even as Troyes were relegated from Ligue 1 last term, is jetting in for a medical today. He will sign a five-year deal at Turf Moor (Le Parisien).
French publication L’Est Eclair, meanwhile, believe Burnley could end up paying £17 million for a player who won’t even celebrate his 19th birthday until November.

Dodi Lukebakio is unlikely to be quite so costly.

The jet-heeled Belgium international wants to leave, is training away from the rest of the Hertha Berlin squad, and is almost certain to get his wish after one of Germany’s most historic sides finally lost their grip on their Bundesliga status.

BILD reports that Burnley are offering £9.5 million up front. The deal could rise to £11 million with add-ons.

Capped eight times by the Rote Duivels, Lukebakio was a bright spark in a dark season at Hertha. He scored 12 goals in all competitions, and would add serious quality – not to mention searing pace – to a Burnley frontline already strengthened by the additions of Nathan Redmond, Jacob Bruun Larsen, Zeki Amdouni and Luca Koleosho, not to mention Odobert.

[AGENT_CLARET]

Is Lukebakio any good? I'd never heard of him.

Inter Milan was looking at him this summer

[Exeterclaret]

Me either, and from my YT scouting he looks pretty average, but Newcastle and RV see him as a marquee signing so hopefully a big player.

Would prefer we were securing another midfielder and LB to be honest.

Inter, Atalanta and Villareal have been interested recently. I think it's fair to say he's a player a level or two above what we've been used to signing in the past.

Went to a Hertha game last season where they beat Köln 2-0. Not saying much as Hertha were pretty bad last year but he was comfortably one of their 2/3 best players.

For me, along with Berge, I'd say perhaps our most exciting signing this summer.

[RVclaret]

It must've been the post Rileybobs has just posted above when you said he's rubbish. Not much difference from saying he's sh1te to be fair, and it wasn't long ago at all either.

Finding a singular comment I made on the fly without any context probably isn’t what you think it is. But well done you can have the morale point scoring victory on this one.

Happy Friday and enjoy the match!

[RVclaret]

Few mega deals overnight, Kane off to Bayern for €100m and Caicedo to Liverpool for £110m. Wow!

[Rick_Muller]

Harold off to Munich

[Quicknick]

100 million euros is a lot for someone of Kane's age.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Few mega deals overnight, Kane off to Bayern for €100m and Caicedo to Liverpool for £110m. Wow!

I’m just not seeing it with Caicedo how in the hell is he worth that when Arsenal got rice for 100

[Murger]

Kanes departure makes the dream team replacement even trickier.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

I’m just not seeing it with Caicedo how in the hell is he worth that when Arsenal got rice for 100

Rice - contract expired next year at West Ham, although there was the option for the club to extend it by 12mths, and it was only really arsenal who wanted him

Caicedo - his contract expired in 2027, plus there were two big clubs bidding for him

[AfloatinClaret]

Is Lukebakio any good? I'd never heard of him.

That's no excuse for not having an opinion
I've not heard of him either, but based on previous player reports on here I'd guess that he's a fantastic player, a great prospect and just what we need. Unless of course a deal doesn't come to fruition, in which case he flatters to deceive, has a poor attitude and is a bullet we've been fortunate to dodge.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Really surprised by Kane, didn't think he had it him in

[Dark Cloud]

Don't want to put a Mission to Burnley spoiler on here but the strategy is clear. The biggest income stream after TV money is player sales. Just relies on the players doing enough to increase their value.

Yes, that comes through several times and I've only watched episode one up to now. Tbf I've no issue with it and it's a great strategy for a club of our stature in our position.

[Socrates]

Anybody who doubts our transfer policy only has to look at the absolutely insane fee Brighton have agreed for Caicedo.

We just need one of these players to come off and they are all paid for.

[arise_sir_charge]

Anybody who doubts our transfer policy only has to look at the absolutely insane fee Brighton have agreed for Caicedo.

We just need one of these players to come off and they are all paid for.

Exactly this. Also Southampton with Lavia etc. young players, who’ve done ok in the Prem but have potential are worth a fortune.

On Caicedo, it also shows not to expect everyone to be a first team star from day one. 18 months ago he was on loan in Belgium and was only called back due to an injury crisis.

[Burnley87]

As a business Brighton must be the best run football club in the world at the moment. Amazing player trades and performing on the pitch at the same time

[Firthy]

Anybody who doubts our transfer policy only has to look at the absolutely insane fee Brighton have agreed for Caicedo.

We just need one of these players to come off and they are all paid for.

Was about to post exactly the same thing. We've already seen simiar with Benson and Zaroury so looks promising for us.

[RVclaret]

Interesting graphic on Brighton’s transfer business

[NewClaret]

Kanes departure makes the dream team replacement even trickier.

Really disappointed about Kane. Big blow for the PL.

Can’t understand his decision either. He blows his chances of the PL record, gets to win a Bundesliga title (like every Bayern player) but realistically not much better chance of the CL.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Really surprised by Kane, didn't think he had it him in

Nor did I tbh

[GodIsADeeJay81]

As a business Brighton must be the best run football club in the world at the moment. Amazing player trades and performing on the pitch at the same time

Close to £500 million in debt though to get where they are now (majority of that debt is owed to Bloom)

It’s been well invested, don’t get me wrong, but without Bloom they’d be floating around in the lower leagues

[ArmchairDetective]

Buy low sell high. Improve. Buy a little higher, sell a little higher. Improve.

Exactly what we should be doing.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Harry Kane was on his way to the airport in London, as he already had the green light for his flight to Munich. But now Tottenham want to renegotiate again!! - they're currently hindering the move and have revoked Kane's permission to fly [@Plettigoal, @SkySportDE]

[Nori1958]

Buy low sell high. Improve. Buy a little higher, sell a little higher. Improve.

Exactly what we should be doing.

I think that's the idea, with Benson and Zarory being the obvious ones to move on next season....bought cheap, long contracts and replacements bought this window

[dandeclaret]

Interesting graphic on Brighton’s transfer business

6.5% ROI - purchase price only?

[GodIsADeeJay81]

I see James Ward Prowse is off to West Ham for £30 million

[Tricky Trevor]

Harry Kane was on his way to the airport in London, as he already had the green light for his flight to Munich. But now Tottenham want to renegotiate again!! - they're currently hindering the move and have revoked Kane's permission to fly [@Plettigoal, @SkySportDE]

I can’t understand how any club deals with Levy. Leave him to stew in the **** of his own making.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Looks like there’s another twist in the tail for Kane

[arise_sir_charge]

6.5% ROI - purchase price only?

You can only say “purchase price only” if you choose to disregard all other income streams.

Anyway, replacing ‘proven’ premier league quality with unknown cheap foreigners will never work will it Dan.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Harry Kane was on his way to the airport in London, as he already had the green light for his flight to Munich. But now Tottenham want to renegotiate again!! - they're currently hindering the move and have revoked Kane's permission to fly [@Plettigoal, @SkySportDE]

Daniel Levy clearly thought Kane didn't have it him in either

[gandhisflipflop]

If I was Kane I’d be going public like ronaldo did. I never would normally advocate it but it is clear just how much he is being messed around by Levy here.

[Anthonini]

Is Lukebakio any good? I'd never heard of him.

I've known him since he was a young 17 year old prospect at Neerpede Youth Academy. Always been a great fan of him.

He's always had this joy of dribbling and taking defenders on in 1 on 1 situations. Very very comfortable on the ball almost like a street soccer kind in player. Can do anything on the ball. He's pretty fast too. Always been a bit skinny and lacks a bit gunpowder in his legs. He's not a real threat from a distance like Benson or Zaroury are, but even more dangerous in the box, scoring often, his finishing is good. Not really good in the air. Although he's progressed alot in his end product and physical ability over the last years. Lately he's even been starting for the Belgian national team and performing quite well above expectations.

A real artist than can still improve enormously under VK. He can play on both wings, lately more so on the right, and can play perfectly as a striker too. Can play in short spaces as well as send him deep on counter attacks.

Great player to watch, quick with lots of crazy tricks up his sleeve.

[ervi34]

Talks to extend Cullen's contract have started.

[dandeclaret]

You can only say “purchase price only” if you choose to disregard all other income streams.

Anyway, replacing ‘proven’ premier league quality with unknown cheap foreigners will never work will it Dan.

Income and expenditure streams - gross debt has continued to increase for Brighton hasn't it? Shows how hard it is to do the thing that many are putting down as the thing that Burnley are just going to do. 6.5% ROI on purchase price over 7 years, whilst expenses outstrip income, doesn't leave huge margins for error.

Here's to a good season, where we can spend a lot of time looking upwards.

[123EasyasBFC]

Transfer fees this summer
Trafford 14m
O’Shea 7.5m
Beyer 12m
Berge 12m
Koleosho 2m
Amdouni 15m
Obafemi 3.5m
So far 66m or there abouts
Ramsey 12m
Odebert 10m
Lukebakio 9m
Potentially another 31m
That would be 97m spent with a left back and arguably a number 9 still needed
Last season was fascinating signing relatively unknown players but this season on paper we are signing a mix of experience and potential, hats off to the club

[123EasyasBFC]

Cullen contract extension on the cards

[randomclaret2]

I've known him since he was a young 17 year old prospect at Neerpede Youth Academy. Always been a great fan of him.

He's always had this joy of dribbling and taking defenders on in 1 on 1 situations. Very very comfortable on the ball almost like a street soccer kind in player. Can do anything on the ball. He's pretty fast too. Always been a bit skinny and lacks a bit gunpowder in his legs. He's not a real threat from a distance like Benson or Zaroury are, but even more dangerous in the box, scoring often, his finishing is good. Not really good in the air. Although he's progressed alot in his end product and physical ability over the last years. Lately he's even been starting for the Belgian national team and performing quite well above expectations.

A real artist than can still improve enormously under VK. He can play on both wings, lately more so on the right, and can play perfectly as a striker too. Can play in short spaces as well as send him deep on counter attacks.

Great player to watch, quick with lots of crazy tricks up his sleeve.

Any one starting games for Belgium must be decent