Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Particularly if we can get a sell on clause too, I'd love to see Benson sold this week for £25 million... It would prove or at least reassure the investors that the business model is working

I knew someone on here would post something along the line of this!

£25 million in the current market when he’s just signed an extension really?

[Newcastleclaret93]

I knew someone on here would post something along the line of this!

£25 million in the current market when he’s just signed an extension really?

Steve out of interest what do you think is the going rate for a player with no top flight or top league experience at 26 years old.

As a comparison the closest this season I can only see the following transfers to premier league clubs that fit that criteria and even then they are slightly younger and have better league experience.

Faivre - 24 - 15m
Kluivert - 24 - 11m
Hamer - 26 - 15m
Souza - 24 - 11m

[jojomk1]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... n-21s.html

Still 3 years left on his contract with Newcastle !!!

Could Luton break the record for lowest points total

[FeedTheArf]

Steve out of interest what do you think is the going rate for a player with no top flight or top league experience at 26 years old.

As a comparison the closest this season I can only see the following transfers to premier league clubs that fit that criteria and even then they are slightly younger and have better league experience.

Faivre - 24 - 15m
Kluivert - 24 - 11m
Hamer - 26 - 15m
Souza - 24 - 11m

I agree with what you’re saying. All of your examples are transfers incoming to Premier League clubs from outside. The figures ramp up when those deals are between two Prem clubs.

I don’t think anyone is going to stump up an offer that will force our hand this window but if he has a decent year and we stay up then I think we could easily achieve 25-30m+

I’d be shocked if there weren’t scouts interested in Benson given the spectacular goals he’s scored but my guess is they’ll sit on their hands and see what he can produce against the big boys before making a move.

[arise_sir_charge]

I thought that Benson looked really dangerous against City. I think he will be good in this league.

[GrahamBranchsPerm]

Benson did well versus City, and will be good enough in the Prem IMHO, simples.

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[Pearcey]

Tella confirmed at Bayer Leverkusen.

[RVclaret]

Spurs and Newcastle in for Bakayoko.

[123EasyasBFC]

Spurs and Newcastle in for Bakayoko.

Spurs I can see, Eddie Howe did say after Lewis Hall signing that they where done in the window unless they get an injury

[claretandy]

Spurs and Newcastle in for Bakayoko.

Is this what he's passing off as Burnley news, the fraud.

[123EasyasBFC]

Is this what he's passing off as Burnley news, the fraud.

There’s a story about diangana at WBA which might have our name in to, we where linked earlier in the summer

[Jakubs Tash]

Steve out of interest what do you think is the going rate for a player with no top flight or top league experience at 26 years old.

As a comparison the closest this season I can only see the following transfers to premier league clubs that fit that criteria and even then they are slightly younger and have better league experience.

Faivre - 24 - 15m
Kluivert - 24 - 11m
Hamer - 26 - 15m
Souza - 24 - 11m

Ollie Watkins €34m in 2020.

Things have moved on quite a bit since then.

Benson should be £35-45m minimum in the current climate.

What makes Caicedo worth £115m? What has he actually done?

Everyone is worth what the buying club is willing to pay…..but €25m for Benson is way short of where it should be.

[Anthonini]

Would be stupid to sell a player just before his value skyrockets. Coming months he will get called up for the national team. He will score some Bennies from a distance against big clubs at the highest level. Then he will be worth double.

On top of that we really need him, he's one of our best players. We should reinforce to try and stay in the league.

[RVclaret]

Where has this chat around Benson come from?

Surely not listening to that Turkish fraud Ekrem are we? The guy (don’t even think he/it is a real person) is about as reliable as a chocolate fireguard.

[BleedingClaret]

Tella confirmed at Bayer Leverkusen.

Right
Now we need to move on from Tella
We need to look to the loan market in Europe, maybe loan a young English striker from the likes of Bayer Leverkusen for example

[Spijed]

Where has this chat around Benson come from?

Surely not listening to that Turkish fraud Ekrem are we? The guy (don’t even think he/it is a real person) is about as reliable as a chocolate fireguard.

Is he the Turkish equivalent of Alan Nixon?

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Why do some people continue to undervalue our players?

A new contract, a young age and clearly full of potential but they seem to think they’re not worth £20 million

They’ll be amongst the first to whine if we don’t get decent money for players when it comes to selling them

[Newcastleclaret93]

Ollie Watkins €34m in 2020.

Things have moved on quite a bit since then.

Benson should be £35-45m minimum in the current climate.

What makes Caicedo worth £115m? What has he actually done?

Everyone is worth what the buying club is willing to pay…..but €25m for Benson is way short of where it should be.

Comparing apples to pears

Watkins was 22 and just scored 28 goals in the championship.

Benson is 26 and had a decent season at championship level but unfortunately for him his injury’s prevented him from banging in the kind of figures that would make him worth 30m plus.

I don’t see the point in selling him now as he’s going to be worth way more but currently I would say 25m is probably about right for him.

The point about Caicedo isn’t really comparable he’s 21 and just had a break through season in the premier league. He’s gone for 115m because he’s going to be there starting CM for at least the next 12 years

[Big Vinny K]

He’s gone for 115m because he’s going to be there starting CM for at least the next 12 years

That’s made me chuckle !
And you wonder why you get posters pulling you up ?!!!

[Newcastleclaret93]

That’s made me chuckle !
And you wonder why you get posters pulling you up ?!!!

You don’t think Caicedo is going to be starting for the next 12 years?

[Big Vinny K]

You don’t think Caicedo is going to be starting for the next 12 years?

Stop it !!
I’m trying to drink my coffee.
Go for a walk

[Silkyskills1]

That’s made me chuckle !
And you wonder why you get posters pulling you up ?!!!

Can see 12 years into the future but not yet mastered the correct use of the relative pronoun. So, their we have it.

[Newcastleclaret93]

I genuinely do understand the logic of some posters. One of the best teams on the planet has just signed a 21 year old cm and they don’t think he’s going to be a regular starter for the rest of his career

[ervi34]

Is he the Turkish equivalent of Alan Nixon?

Nixon is 5 times more reliable than him. Thats how bad he is.

[Hapag Lloyd]

Can see 12 years into the future but not yet mastered the correct use of the relative pronoun. So, their we have it.

Here we go again

[RVclaret]

Can see 12 years into the future but not yet mastered the correct use of the relative pronoun. So, their we have it.

Edit - my bad just checked newcy’s post

[Big Vinny K]

I genuinely do understand the logic of some posters. One of the best teams on the planet has just signed a 21 year old cm and they don’t think he’s going to be a regular starter for the rest of his career

I think he will be injured in 17 months and struggle to recover and then be sold to MK Dons 32.5 weeks later before dropping into the North West counties league where he will be centre midfield for Old Mostonians.

[summitclaret]

Sheff U sign Cameron Archer for £18m.

[jojomk1]

Sheff U sign Cameron Archer for £18m.

Will he end up being another Brewster signing

[Hipper]

I wonder how soon it was after Trevor Francis that other players started going for a million plus

We had two £1 million pound players at the club at one point - although we didn't pay that money.

[Newcastleclaret93]

I think he will be injured in 17 months and struggle to recover and then be sold to MK Dons 32.5 weeks later before dropping into the North West counties league where he will be centre midfield for Old Mostonians.

But that’s not the intention for Chelsea is it?

They have spent that money with intention of him starting for them for a hell of a long time.

That’s why they have valued him so high.

[Big Vinny K]

But that’s not the intention for Chelsea is it?

They have spent that money with intention of him starting for them for a hell of a long time.

That’s why they have valued him so high.

Aye - Chelsea are really good at longevity

[Newcastleclaret93]

Aye - Chelsea are really good at longevity

Your not quite getting it are you.

[123EasyasBFC]

Don’t think Newcastle is saying caicedo will 100% be at Chelsea for 12 years but the point he’s making, they have spent 112m on someone that hope to be with them for a long time therefore they will of then had value for money.

Correct me if I’m seeing it wrong Newcastle?

[Big Vinny K]

Your not quite getting it are you.

I’m not getting it ?
Wow.
The reason Chelsea paid a ridiculously inflated price for a player who has had one good season is not for longevity - it’s cos they are a basket case club who have spent a billion pounds on players in the last couple of years on players who up to last Friday had managed to win 1 out of 16 games.
You really think any player goes to Chelsea because they think they’ll have a great long career there like Kerry Dixon and Chopper Harris ?

But please share your wisdom with us about their current strategy - as I think the rest of the world would love to know why they have 17 left backs

[123EasyasBFC]

I’m not getting it ?
Wow.
The reason Chelsea paid a ridiculously inflated price for a player who has had one good season is not for longevity - it’s cos they are a basket case club who have spent a billion pounds on players in the last couple of years on players who up to last Friday had managed to win 1 out of 16 games.
You really think any player goes to Chelsea because they think they’ll have a great long career there like Kerry Dixon and Chopper Harris ?

But please share your wisdom with us about their current strategy - as I think the rest of the world would love to know why they have 17 left backs

Chelsea now have 3 left backs, 2 senior with one being injury prone in chilwell and then Maatsen who in pre season and to cameos is yet to play left back

[Big Vinny K]

Don’t think Newcastle is saying caicedo will 100% be at Chelsea for 12 years but the point he’s making, they have spent 112m on someone that hope to be with them for a long time therefore they will of then had value for money.

Correct me if I’m seeing it wrong Newcastle?

I know what he’s thinks he’s saying. But makes zero sense if you look at Chelsea and the billion pounds they have spent in 2 years to end up with a squad full of players who they would struggle to get half of their money back sat on the bench twiddling their thumbs every week

[daveisaclaret]

Just someone wanting to bully Newcastleclaret, absolutely tragic behaviour.

[Hipper]

I agree with Newcastleclaret93.

I don't know if Chelsea have got good value but he slotted in seamlessly as a defensive mid in their game against Luton without being spectacular. He looks a solid Prem player already at 21 and could be a good building block to make a team.

[Jakubclaret]

Don’t think Newcastle is saying caicedo will 100% be at Chelsea for 12 years but the point he’s making, they have spent 112m on someone that hope to be with them for a long time therefore they will of then had value for money.

Correct me if I’m seeing it wrong Newcastle?

I think it's safe to say they won't be selling him on & making a profit & you are only left with 1 realistic scenario after that.

[123EasyasBFC]

I know what he’s thinks he’s saying. But makes zero sense if you look at Chelsea and the billion pounds they have spent in 2 years to end up with a squad full of players who they would struggle to get half of their money back sat on the bench twiddling their thumbs every week

Don’t know why your worrying about what Chelsea are going to be honest, but your sarcy comment about 16 left backs just wasn’t correct

[Newcastleclaret93]

Don’t think Newcastle is saying caicedo will 100% be at Chelsea for 12 years but the point he’s making, they have spent 112m on someone that hope to be with them for a long time therefore they will of then had value for money.

Correct me if I’m seeing it wrong Newcastle?

Yep that’s exactly it

[Cooclaret]

I’m not getting it ?
Wow.
The reason Chelsea paid a ridiculously inflated price for a player who has had one good season is not for longevity - it’s cos they are a basket case club who have spent a billion pounds on players in the last couple of years on players who up to last Friday had managed to win 1 out of 16 games.
You really think any player goes to Chelsea because they think they’ll have a great long career there like Kerry Dixon and Chopper Harris ?

But please share your wisdom with us about their current strategy - as I think the rest of the world would love to know why they have 17 left backs

They’re spreading the costs out over eight year contracts, so that tells you that they’re planning at least five (FFP rules) into the future.

They bought a world class academy over the last ten years. Lots of those players are now pushing the first team, and so yes they’ve an inflated squad system at the moment.

TB isn’t a football man, he’s learning that. He is a money man and he isn’t a fool.

I agree with Newcastle, there’s a long term plan there, and it seems a number of players are central to that plan.

[Cooclaret]

Just someone wanting to bully Newcastleclaret, absolutely tragic behaviour.

Poster has form.

[Ric_C]

Archer officially in at Sheff Utd

I'd have had him and Hamer tbh

[AfloatinClaret]

Not a trawl at all, I'm deadly serious and my enthusiasm for selling Benson this week if we were offered £25 million is based on pragmatic realism:
While everyone on here is in favour of our buying new players, a proportion can't grasp or accept the concept of needing to sell at least some of them again and preferably for a healthy, indeed maximised profit. While we as supporters see BFC as 'Our Team' it's also a commercial business, upon which the investors want to turn a profit; £25 mil for Benson is a quick and massive profit and I don't see his presence being vital to EPL survival as perhaps Tarks' was. And why now? Well I think FeedTheArf answered that nicely here:

... if he (Benson) has a decent year and we stay up then I think we could easily achieve 25-30m+

But if MB has a disappointing year, he'll be worth <half that, so if someone is offering £25m today, you take the profit and let them take the player along with that risk.

[Ric_C]

Lol in this current market, if Benson bops a few in from distance, he suddenly becomes a £40 million player

[claretspice]

How many players have actually gone for 40m+ in this window?

[Newcastleclaret93]

How many players have actually gone for 40m+ in this window?

14 I believe

[Steddyman]

This thread sure goes downhill quickly when we go a week without any incomings.