So that presumably makes it alright then?Cleveleys_claret wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 8:11 amThis is an every club issue... heard it on the new this morning, not once did they say Burnley fans
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I agree that some of the reporting could lead to some thinking it was a targeted attack where they lay in wait on a bridge and throw a rather large piece of masonry, taken onto the bridge for the sole purpose of hitting the team coach, which looking at the video is not the case.2 Bee Holed wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 8:50 amI am not trying to excuse the inexcusable.
This incident has gone out in a press release to the world's media. I am asking for accuracy, that's all.
The way I read the press release is far more likely to lead to a fatality than what is shown in the video.
The incident is sickening and dangerous enough without the press release over-dramatising it. Accurate reporting.
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Did I say it was alright? Please show me where I wrote that
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How on earth can any object being thrown at a moving vehicle not be classed as potentially dangerous or even life threatening?
I love how threads like this go from the correct response of disgust to yeah but, no but within a hundred posts.
Not to mention a bit of casual Met Police bashing thrown in for good measure.
I love how threads like this go from the correct response of disgust to yeah but, no but within a hundred posts.
Not to mention a bit of casual Met Police bashing thrown in for good measure.
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When the statement came out, the video hadn’t been seen.Nori1958 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 9:02 amI agree that some of the reporting could lead to some thinking it was a targeted attack where they lay in wait on a bridge and throw a rather large piece of masonry, taken onto the bridge for the sole purpose of hitting the team coach, which looking at the video is not the case.
The underpass and the bridge are close together.
I doubt Villa will have been aware of the underpass so when it happened they wouldn’t have know the direction and assumed to have been from above and that is what they have reported as.
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If the hat fits.....
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I agree all this embarrassment business is actually embarrassing within itself, it takes weak minded individuals to be embarrassed about other peoples behaviour which doesn't & shouldn't reflect on their own character who played no part in the coach incident the same applies for the lighter incident. Supporting & being associated with something doesn't bear individual responsibility when things go sh*tshaped.
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Our first two home games since our return to the EPL, and we are in the media for all the wrong reasons. All the good work from last season undone. It's a crying shame.
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Thing is, when you live away, you like to talk up the town, the surrounding countryside, Towneley Hall, the football club, the local cricket clubs and who it has produced.Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 9:10 amI agree all this embarrassment business is actually embarrassing within itself, it takes weak minded individuals to be embarrassed about other peoples behaviour which doesn't & shouldn't reflect on their own character who played no part in the coach incident the same applies for the lighter incident. Supporting & being associated with something doesn't bear individual responsibility when things go sh*tshaped.
And then the thing that makes headlines that those same people see, is this s**t.
It gets really f**king depressing
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"It gets really f**king depressing"ŽižkovClaret wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 9:18 amThing is, when you live away, you like to talk up the town, the surrounding countryside, Towneley Hall, the football club, the local cricket clubs and who it has produced.
And then the thing that makes headlines that those same people see, is this s**t.
It gets really f**king depressing
Only if you allow it to be that way.
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I think the point is that actions like these whether mindless racism or idiotic,potentially dangerous object throwing embarrasses anybody who has been delighted with the recent changes made to the club on and off the field.Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 9:10 amI agree all this embarrassment business is actually embarrassing within itself, it takes weak minded individuals to be embarrassed about other peoples behaviour which doesn't & shouldn't reflect on their own character who played no part in the coach incident the same applies for the lighter incident. Supporting & being associated with something doesn't bear individual responsibility when things go sh*tshaped.
Our American backers and the interest being created around us in the States and elsewhere offer great possibilities.
The behaviour of a few ruin our reputation and that's what is embarrassing.
I go on the Turf, get to a few aways and am a ST holder and nothing will change that.
It's our club I'm embarrassed for not me.
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I wonder if Daveisaclaret is feeling a bit embarrassed this morning?
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Sure, you do respond with the old "Every village has its idiots". Indeed, some of them even manage to register and post on internet forumsJakubclaret wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 9:21 am"It gets really f**king depressing"
Only if you allow it to be that way.
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Is there any confirmation it was actually a Burnley ‘fan’ to me it looks like to little chavs acting like some young lads do these days and it just happened to be straight after the game. What’s happened is shocking but it’s the way everyone is so quick to tarnish every single Burnley fan.
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That’s great, Jakub as long as you’re prepared to apply the same reasoning to every community on every occasion.Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 9:10 amI agree all this embarrassment business is actually embarrassing within itself, it takes weak minded individuals to be embarrassed about other peoples behaviour which doesn't & shouldn't reflect on their own character who played no part in the coach incident the same applies for the lighter incident. Supporting & being associated with something doesn't bear individual responsibility when things go sh*tshaped.
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You could have guessed Jakub's response. He never disappoints.
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Or I simply realise life is far too short to let the wrong sort of people grind you down.ŽižkovClaret wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 9:23 amSure, you do respond with the old "Every village has its idiots". Indeed, some of them even manage to register and post on internet forums
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There's a headline on twitter, 5 mins ago on lancs live...brick thrown from footbridge...wilks_bfc wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 9:08 amWhen the statement came out, the video hadn’t been seen.
The underpass and the bridge are close together.
I doubt Villa will have been aware of the underpass so when it happened they wouldn’t have know the direction and assumed to have been from above and that is what they have reported as.
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Thing is, even if it is accepted that it isn't a Burnley "fan" its still a resident, most likely, and so that is still a bit of an embarrassment123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 9:23 amIs there any confirmation it was actually a Burnley ‘fan’ to me it looks like to little chavs acting like some young lads do these days and it just happened to be straight after the game. What’s happened is shocking but it’s the way everyone is so quick to tarnish every single Burnley fan.
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If anyone knows the **** bags that have done this then just report them . They deserve all they get low lives
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A resident of where though, 2 little chavs stood under a bridge at junction 10 of M65 could live anywhere across Burnley, Blackburn, Accrington and even ribble valleyŽižkovClaret wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 9:26 amThing is, even if it is accepted that it isn't a Burnley "fan" its still a resident, most likely, and so that is still a bit of an embarrassment
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And the "resident" hit a coach carrying players from a game against a team from our club.ŽižkovClaret wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 9:26 amThing is, even if it is accepted that it isn't a Burnley "fan" its still a resident, most likely, and so that is still a bit of an embarrassment
Enough there, I feel, for any BF C fan to be appalled but apparently not.
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Interestingly on this video the lad shouts ‘Birmingham internationals’ and the accent doesn’t sound very Burnley.
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You'll notice i corrected the emoji there. We're on the same pageevensteadiereddie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 9:31 amAnd the "resident" hit a coach carrying players from a game against a team from our club.
Enough there, I feel, for any BF C fan to be appalled but apparently not.
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That wasn't a dig at you, Z.
I'm in 100% agreement with you regarding those who, incredibly, are making excuses or deflecting blame.
I'm in 100% agreement with you regarding those who, incredibly, are making excuses or deflecting blame.
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Birmingham international was wrote on the side of the coach. The scumbag is probably just practicing his year 3 English language.
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Who's not appalled?..evensteadiereddie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 9:31 amAnd the "resident" hit a coach carrying players from a game against a team from our club.
Enough there, I feel, for any BF C fan to be appalled but apparently not.
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The whole episode is embarrassing for the club and for the town. That said, if you listen to the video of the incident the two people speaking do not appear have local accents at all if I’ve heard it correctly. That tells me that they are not fans of the club and just happen to have moved into the area as part of the rapid demographic changes occurring.
It still doesn’t make it any better if that’s the case, but it’s irks me when I keep seeing “Burnley fans” and our actual fans automatically agreeing with it, when it’s possibly little hoodlums on a destructive mission. Unfortunately we all get tarnished regardless.
It still doesn’t make it any better if that’s the case, but it’s irks me when I keep seeing “Burnley fans” and our actual fans automatically agreeing with it, when it’s possibly little hoodlums on a destructive mission. Unfortunately we all get tarnished regardless.
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Can't believe people are going full 'Nick Freeman' in an attempt to distance some of our fan base from this. Almost as embarrassing as those that carried out the attack.
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I haven't seen any posts saying that, I think it 100% saying the attack is disgraceful or any other description that fitsevensteadiereddie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 10:10 amJudging by some of the comments and lack of condemnation, far too many I'd say.
There might be posts suggesting they might not be Burnley "fans", or comments on the reporting.
I've said iam not embarrassed at being a Burnley fan, as some would want us to be, but it doesn't mean I think the attack was ok.
Perhaps a link to the many posts you think are not condemning the incident would be helpful.
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Sorry folks I am not local but post match around I think is Queens Park I was stuck behind about 5 Villa coaches no problem until a group of hoodies clearly Burnley fans decided to have a go at the coaches. Within 20 seconds the coppers appeared and sorted it out.
I wish they’d been at Villa circa 1975 when our bus was bricked as it was freezing in the way home
I wish they’d been at Villa circa 1975 when our bus was bricked as it was freezing in the way home
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Re the accents not sounding local, I’ve just relistened to the video again via some better speakers.
To me it sounds like they are attempting to do a Brummie accent
To me it sounds like they are attempting to do a Brummie accent
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'Lancashire Police confirmed in a statement that a brick was dropped from a motorway footbridge and the front window suffered significant damage.'
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/23674257 ... ge-police/
Looked to me like a stone was thrown from an underpass from the video I saw.
Did it happen anywhere Accy Rd/Westgate?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/23674257 ... ge-police/
Looked to me like a stone was thrown from an underpass from the video I saw.
Did it happen anywhere Accy Rd/Westgate?
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Just read on another fans site that the video was done on Snapchat and that the police should be able to find the phones owner.
Not sure if this is correct because I haven't a clue what Snapchat is!
Not sure if this is correct because I haven't a clue what Snapchat is!
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What video have you seen? Surely not the video camera from the coach that went to the police?daveisaclaret wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 11:34 pmIt's really obvious from the video that they know what they're doing
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I see what you did there, Granny.Granny WeatherWax wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 9:40 amBirmingham international was wrote on the side of the coach. The scumbag is probably just practicing his year 3 English language.
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Read the whole thread.Nori1958 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 10:17 amI haven't seen any posts saying that, I think it 100% saying the attack is disgraceful or any other description that fits
There might be posts suggesting they might not be Burnley "fans", or comments on the reporting.
I've said iam not embarrassed at being a Burnley fan, as some would want us to be, but it doesn't mean I think the attack was ok.
Perhaps a link to the many posts you think are not condemning the incident would be helpful.
Even you should be able to pick them out.
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The team bus bricking was the second item on R5 Live national news bulletin read out just now.
So still in national news headlines bringing shame on the town.
So still in national news headlines bringing shame on the town.
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It's you who mentioned them...I haven't seen them so would be helpful for you to point out the ones you refer toevensteadiereddie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 10:53 amRead the whole thread.
Even you should be able to pick them out.
Trying to be abusive is not a good look
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11 am news on Boom Radio just signed off with airport about “ the bricking of the Aston Villa team bus after their match against Burnley yesterday”.
I do think there IS such a thing as bad publicity.
I do think there IS such a thing as bad publicity.
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With the best will in the world, nobody can find something if it isn't there.Nori1958 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 10:17 amI haven't seen any posts saying that, I think it 100% saying the attack is disgraceful or any other description that fits
There might be posts suggesting they might not be Burnley "fans", or comments on the reporting.
I've said iam not embarrassed at being a Burnley fan, as some would want us to be, but it doesn't mean I think the attack was ok.
Perhaps a link to the many posts you think are not condemning the incident would be helpful.
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Very true, and having checked, it's not thereJakubclaret wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 11:10 amWith the best will in the world, nobody can find something if it isn't there.
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fair old shot like at a vehicle travelling at that speed. certainly not the first time they've done it. Must have been on a super dose of heroin yesterday.
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I've taken 10 mins out of my day to re read the whole thread, and there is not one post saying anything like what you are suggestingevensteadiereddie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 10:10 amJudging by some of the comments and lack of condemnation, far too many I'd say.
There is not one post that doesn't condemn the bricking of the coach
It's embarrassing that you should make things like this up, for reasons I cannot imagine