Sean Dyche will be smuggly looking on...

equinox · Post by **equinox** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 7:06 pm

..no doubt.

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 7:06 pm

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 7:07 pm

He won't, he's not petty

matttheclaret · Post by **matttheclaret** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 7:07 pm

I doubt it - he's got enough to worry about with his own team

Burnley1989 · Post by **Burnley1989** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 7:07 pm

Who cares

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 7:08 pm

Smuggly looking on at drawing against Sheffield United away?

Weird.

Nori1958 · Post by **Nori1958** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 7:08 pm

Some weird people on here tonight.... I think it's time to bin off this board for a while...

Foshiznik · Post by **Foshiznik** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 7:08 pm

They’ve got one point more than us, are only two goals ahead on goal difference and we have a game in hand. Not sure what he would have to be smug about.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 7:09 pm

I don’t think new fans remember Dyches first PL season, we were relegated, learnt a hard lesson and came back up stronger.

equinox · Post by **equinox** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 7:10 pm

Imagine what he could have done with circa. £100m?

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 7:11 pm

equinox wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 02, 2023 7:10 pm
Imagine what he could have done with circa. £100m?

Look at the way his Everton team are playing. Garbage, and those players cost more than ours as a team.

MeeActon1 · Post by **MeeActon1** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 7:12 pm

equinox wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 02, 2023 7:10 pm
Imagine what he could have done with circa. £100m?

I’d rather not.

Paddy1882 · Post by **Paddy1882** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 7:13 pm

equinox wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 02, 2023 7:10 pm
Imagine what he could have done with circa. £100m?

Sign players and then sit them on the bench for half a season or more until they were “Dyche fit”

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 7:14 pm

equinox wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 02, 2023 7:10 pm
Imagine what he could have done with circa. £100m?

Got 200 Dale Stephens

buzzclarets79 · Post by **buzzclarets79** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 7:16 pm

Nori1958 wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 02, 2023 7:08 pm
Some weird people on here tonight.... I think it's time to bin off this board for a while...

Absolutely agree. Just how fickle some “fans” are is unbelievable. As soon as the 5th went in I said this forum would be unbearable with all types of c**p being posted and not been disappointed tbh.

We’ve lost a game of football. It happens.

All this will be a distant memory come May and we’ve comfortably managed to survive.

THEWELLERNUT70 · Post by **THEWELLERNUT70** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 7:17 pm

I see most of the trumpet polishers are on here tonight

equinox · Post by **equinox** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 7:18 pm

Rick_Muller wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 02, 2023 7:14 pm
Got 200 Dale Stephens

Well we wouldn't would we? Are you aware of the circumstances around that transfer?

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 7:19 pm

Steve Cotterill probably too

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 7:20 pm

Bxxxxxxs Everton are a point ahead of us!

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 7:24 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 02, 2023 7:19 pm
Steve Cotterill probably too

Jimmy Mullen has no doubt spontaneously combusted with smugness.

Andreshotboots · Post by **Andreshotboots** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 8:03 pm

I think we'll be the last thing on his mind to be honest..

box_of_frogs · Post by **box_of_frogs** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 8:31 pm

Burnley1989 wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 02, 2023 7:07 pm
Who cares

This. Nails it on the head.

Wembley09 · Post by **Wembley09** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 8:37 pm

I doubt it, he's got his own big problems.
We've played 3 top sides, infact the best Premier League side (currently best team in Europe and probably the World) a very strong Villa side pushing under a good manager, and same with Spurs.. another big team pushing under a positive manager.

I'd rather we'd played Fulham/Wolves and Sheff Utd already, than Man City and Tottenham.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 8:40 pm

equinox wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 02, 2023 7:10 pm
Imagine what he could have done with circa. £100m?

No thanks

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 8:41 pm

THEWELLERNUT70 wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 02, 2023 7:17 pm
I see most of the trumpet polishers are on here tonight

Prefeot · Post by **Prefeot** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 8:42 pm

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 02, 2023 8:41 pm

Brilliant post now I know why I only pop on here occasionally

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 9:18 pm

What's he smuggling?

Burnleyareback2 · Post by **Burnleyareback2** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 9:20 pm

equinox wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 02, 2023 7:06 pm
..no doubt.

Why?
I’d imagine he wants us to do well apart from when we play his teams. His legacy is the reason we are in this position.

Swizzlestick · Post by **Swizzlestick** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 9:25 pm

I think he’s got enough of his own problems to deal with. And they’ve had a significantly kinder start than us.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 9:33 pm

equinox wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 02, 2023 7:10 pm
Imagine what he could have done with circa. £100m?

Genuinely he would have us top ten regularly with them sort of funds

roperclaret · Post by **roperclaret** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 10:03 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 02, 2023 9:33 pm
Genuinely he would have us top ten regularly with them sort of funds

Be boring to watch though

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 10:08 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 02, 2023 9:33 pm
Genuinely he would have us top ten regularly with them sort of funds

********

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 10:09 pm

roperclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 02, 2023 10:03 pm
Be boring to watch though

That might be the case. But if he had that money with us, I don’t think any of us doubt he would be a success.

What was his net spend again over 5 years in the prem 30m?

Imagine what he could do with triple that in one summer window

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 10:35 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 02, 2023 10:09 pm

Imagine what he could do with triple that in one summer window

17th?

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 10:36 pm

boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 02, 2023 10:35 pm
17th?

More like comfortably mid table

Papabendi · Post by **Papabendi** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 10:39 pm

The money and the level of spending has moved on again since we were last there

Wembley09 · Post by **Wembley09** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 10:41 pm

Interesting with Dyche, as he's never really had the money. Even at Watford, he did well with a team everybody expected to be in a relegation scrap to League One. Made them hard to beat, new owners came in and got rid of him.

Dyche seems to like the small budget/hard work/us against the world mentality. He kept going on about it midweek after the Doncaster game, talking about how it was a tough game and that Sky were only there hoping for the upset/for Everton to get beat.. he said it more than a few times. Bloody bottom of League Two Doncaster, and he's praising his lads for getting it done when everybody 'was' hoping Everton would lose.

I was praying for the Sky pundits to say 'but we did see an upset, nobody expected Everton to win'

Kuriosoranj · Post by **Kuriosoranj** » Sun Sep 03, 2023 9:36 am

It's a real shame some have this negative view of Dyche.

Yes it didnt end well and those last couple of seasons were drab but remember where we were when he took us over.

Without Dyche, we dont get years in the prem, we dont get "Europe" and a top 10 finish, we dont get Ings and Vokes, we dont get 23 undefeated, we dont get taken over, we dont make 70m on sales when we get relegated, we dont get Kompany, we don't get last season.

Yes there was positives and negatives, but his overall reign was one of success and this constant comparison is getting tired.

beeholeclaret · Post by **beeholeclaret** » Sun Sep 03, 2023 9:56 am

Bin Ont Turf wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 02, 2023 7:24 pm
Jimmy Mullen has no doubt spontaneously combusted with smugness.

That’s unless someone up Harle Syke hasn’t already done the job first!

Swizzlestick · Post by **Swizzlestick** » Sun Sep 03, 2023 11:55 am

Just an example of one of the problems SD has on his plate - https://x.com/fabrizioromano/status/169 ... FkUQjfRnLA

Pickles · Post by **Pickles** » Sun Sep 03, 2023 12:00 pm

Ah yes, of course. Because we never got absolutely battered in the Prem when was Dyche was manager.

Beagle · Post by **Beagle** » Sun Sep 03, 2023 3:17 pm

Clueless bloke sat behind me all of the game yesterday: ‘we would never concede like this under Dyche.’ How short are people’s memories? We lost 5-0 to Spurs under Dyche. We lost 5-0 to Man City four times under Dyche. We lost 4-0 to West Brom under Dyche, in one of the first games back in the Premier League, and two years later lost 4-0 again to West Brom under Dyche.

He was a great manager for us and he inspired some superb defensive performances, but new teams and new managers playing new systems in a new league are always going to suffer some beatings. We’ve got a tough first few games, of which we’ve only played three. We just have to hang tight, learn, and hope Kompany and the players aren’t so melodramatic as most of our fanbase seems to be.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sun Sep 03, 2023 11:03 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 02, 2023 10:09 pm
That might be the case. But if he had that money with us, I don’t think any of us doubt he would be a success.

What was his net spend again over 5 years in the prem 30m?

Imagine what he could do with triple that in one summer window

Proper ********, not surprised it’s by you though. All this recent Dyche **** fest because VK has lost a few games in the PL is embarrassing. Dyche was relegated in his first full Pl season, VK can’t do any worse.

Also Dyches best signings here were the cheaper signings. Had absolutely no idea how to recruit from abroad or who to recruit.

Darnhill Claret · Post by **Darnhill Claret** » Sun Sep 03, 2023 11:26 pm

If people are saying that Dyche would have us top 10 after spending the same amount after those 3 games, I think they might be fooling themselves. As a manager I have the utmost respect for what Sean achieved here, but he couldn't persuade Garlick to loosen the pursestrings could he?
Whereas .....

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sun Sep 03, 2023 11:30 pm

Beagle wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 03, 2023 3:17 pm
Clueless bloke sat behind me all of the game yesterday: ‘we would never concede like this under Dyche.’ How short are people’s memories? We lost 5-0 to Spurs under Dyche. We lost 5-0 to Man City four times under Dyche. We lost 4-0 to West Brom under Dyche, in one of the first games back in the Premier League, and two years later lost 4-0 again to West Brom under Dyche.

He was a great manager for us and he inspired some superb defensive performances, but new teams and new managers playing new systems in a new league are always going to suffer some beatings. We’ve got a tough first few games, of which we’ve only played three. We just have to hang tight, learn, and hope Kompany and the players aren’t so melodramatic as most of our fanbase seems to be.

Thank god there are still some rational posters on here.

I loved Dyche, still do, but it’s revisionist to say we didn’t take heavy beatings in the Prem under him.

Worth also remembering he got us relegated in his first season before establishing us. Exactly why we should back Vinny come what may.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sun Sep 03, 2023 11:34 pm

KRBFC wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 03, 2023 11:03 pm
Proper ********, not surprised it’s by you though. All this recent Dyche **** fest because VK has lost a few games in the PL is embarrassing. Dyche was relegated in his first full Pl season, VK can’t do any worse.

Also Dyches best signings here were the cheaper signings. Had absolutely no idea how to recruit from abroad or who to recruit.

Spot on.

If VK relegates us he’s done no worse than Dyche. Massive perspective needed.

Dyche was a great manager for us but had his flaws, not least nobody seemed to want to play for him/his style. He finds himself at clubs with no money for a reason.

Commy · Post by **Commy** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 2:21 am

I for one am grateful for what he did but one thing he wouldn't have done is throw in 18 year olds unless forced. He has signed a young striker for Everton but won't play him as he said he isn't ready. I've always thought that for a young player to 'be ready' they need to play in the first team to improve, even if it is only as sub. Koleosho will improve no end playing in the first team whereas he would probably be held back in the U21s. I also think he will hope we do well as long as it isn't against Everton.