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Re: Lost Pubs of Burnley

Post by Jakubclaret » Wed Sep 06, 2023 8:22 pm

Lots of pubs have become lost for a good reason that when active & in existence not enough people didn't want to find them often enough to keep the place going, for sure that won't apply in all cases but pubs that are thriving & desirable seldom get lost just change hands, if it's a sustainable business making profit somebody will always have a do.

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Re: Lost Pubs of Burnley

Post by Barlickclaret » Wed Sep 06, 2023 8:22 pm

summitclaret wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2023 7:24 pm
How could you miss The,Baltic Fleet?
Sorry forgot the baltic, and we started there and finished there. Brilliant pub.

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Re: Lost Pubs of Burnley

Post by Quickenthetempo » Wed Sep 06, 2023 8:23 pm

Blatherwickstattoo wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2023 1:58 pm
The Brit
The grove
Shakespeare (recently)
Bull
Whalley range
Alma
The vic

Just in Padiham that have over the last 20 years gone
White Horse
Railway
Wine bar that used to be British Legion

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Re: Lost Pubs of Burnley

Post by Dressinggown » Wed Sep 06, 2023 8:24 pm

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Re: Lost Pubs of Burnley

Post by Claret86 » Wed Sep 06, 2023 8:33 pm

Blatherwickstattoo wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2023 1:58 pm
The Brit
The grove
Shakespeare (recently)
Bull
Whalley range
Alma
The vic

Just in Padiham that have over the last 20 years gone
White horse
Black bull
Can't believe the hand and shuttle is still open

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Re: Lost Pubs of Burnley

Post by Blatherwickstattoo » Wed Sep 06, 2023 8:45 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2023 8:23 pm
White Horse
Railway
Wine bar that used to be British Legion
Yeah how could I forget white horse and railway!! The wine bar burnt down I recall , I should know its name but can’t recall it !!

Crazy how many have shut

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Re: Lost Pubs of Burnley

Post by mikeS » Wed Sep 06, 2023 8:46 pm

The Bobbin.
Closed awaiting new management to take it on.
The only pub left between Park Lane and the town centre pubs.
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Re: Lost Pubs of Burnley

Post by Blatherwickstattoo » Wed Sep 06, 2023 8:47 pm

Claret86 wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2023 8:33 pm
White horse
Black bull
Can't believe the hand and shuttle is still open
Me too ! I’ve never been in even though I’m a thick neck , I bet it’s like stepping back into the 80’s..can tell from the double denim wearing guys stood outside smoking roll ups

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Re: Lost Pubs of Burnley

Post by Quickenthetempo » Wed Sep 06, 2023 8:54 pm

Blatherwickstattoo wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2023 8:45 pm
Yeah how could I forget white horse and railway!! The wine bar burnt down I recall , I should know its name but can’t recall it !!

Crazy how many have shut
You're thinking of McNeils, the old Labour club I think?

Burnt down and one half of the partnership opened Molly Rigbys.

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Re: Lost Pubs of Burnley

Post by SPC&G » Wed Sep 06, 2023 9:02 pm

Anyone remember the Face Winds up Duke Bar. Wow. Full of characters that place.

Also Twisters and the Pigeon Club. Both in Colne.

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Re: Lost Pubs of Burnley

Post by Stayingup » Wed Sep 06, 2023 9:07 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2023 6:34 pm
Disagree completely. Can understand the sentiment around peoples memories of good times in pubs but they hark back to a day when blokes got drunk down pubs whilst the women stayed at home looking after the kids and domestic duties.

I think that the fact that the younger generation of families spend a lot more time together and have lots more choice of activity's to do aside from sitting in a pub drinking leads to a much healthier balance in life and the fact that there isn't enough people drinking their evenings away to sustain all these pubs is imo a positive of modern life
And I completely disagree with you. You missed out on many aspects of life you did. Pub was a fantastic institution.

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Re: Lost Pubs of Burnley

Post by AmbleClaret » Wed Sep 06, 2023 9:10 pm

Fretters wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2023 9:31 am
After CT's reference to the Mitre in his 1998 article, I looked it up and found this site:

https://www.closedpubs.co.uk/lancashire/burnley.html

Any memories stand out? The Manor Barn was my local and where I had my first illegal pint and I still miss the Talbot for real ale, it was a great pre-match pub.
Was it Giovanni who had the Manor Barn, a patient of mine back in the day,awkward bugger if I remember rightly.

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Re: Lost Pubs of Burnley

Post by Devils_Advocate » Wed Sep 06, 2023 9:11 pm

AmbleClaret wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2023 9:10 pm
Was it Giovanni who had the Manor Barn, a patient of mine back in the day,awkward bugger if I remember rightly.
Ex Norwich and Everton manager Mike Walker used to run the Manor Barn if I remember rightly

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Re: Lost Pubs of Burnley

Post by ClaretsPadiham » Wed Sep 06, 2023 9:35 pm

Gretna Green, Cog Lane/Coal Clough Land

Griffin Hotel near the cemetery, had topless barmaids. Also believe the Yorkshire Ripper used to stop by now and then.

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Re: Lost Pubs of Burnley

Post by gawthorpe_view » Wed Sep 06, 2023 9:44 pm

SPC&G wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2023 9:02 pm
Anyone remember the Face Winds up Duke Bar. Wow. Full of characters that place.

Also Twisters and the Pigeon Club. Both in Colne.
Face Winds, New Hall Street Working Men's Club?
Robinson Street club close by equally interesting.

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Re: Lost Pubs of Burnley

Post by SPC&G » Wed Sep 06, 2023 9:54 pm

New Hall St Working men’s Club. Not many working men in there when I went in that’s for sure. Plenty of card sharks and drug dealers in there on a Friday throuher.

Robinson Street Club (Robbie St) was on the opposite side of the street to the Dragoon and there was a bit of a nip through to get to a pub in Colne Rd. Think it was the Victoria( Vic). Great days

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Re: Lost Pubs of Burnley

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Sep 06, 2023 10:16 pm

ClaretsPadiham wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2023 9:35 pm
Gretna Green, Cog Lane/Coal Clough Land

Griffin Hotel near the cemetery, had topless barmaids. Also believe the Yorkshire Ripper used to stop by now and then.
Griffin had a landlord some years ago who set up a grumpy hour to match his personality. Beer prices went up during grumpy hour.
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Re: Lost Pubs of Burnley

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Sep 06, 2023 10:19 pm

mikeS wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2023 8:46 pm
The Bobbin.
Closed awaiting new management to take it on.
The only pub left between Park Lane and the town centre pubs.
Tim Bobbin Hotel Burnley good olf postcard 1890s.JPG
I can’t remember the names now but i think there were quite a number of pubs on Padiham Road and Westgate from the Derby down into town.

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Re: Lost Pubs of Burnley

Post by bfcjg » Wed Sep 06, 2023 10:19 pm

What was the micro pub called at the bottom of Manchester Road virtually opposite the Big Window ? That was really good for a while.
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Re: Lost Pubs of Burnley

Post by Vino blanco » Wed Sep 06, 2023 11:47 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2023 10:19 pm
I can’t remember the names now but i think there were quite a number of pubs on Padiham Road and Westgate from the Derby down into town.
Padiham Rd:
Baracks Tavern
Roebuck
Peels Arms
Garrison
Roebuck
Union
Westgate:
Mitre
Dog and Partridge
Stork
Plane Tree.
Also coming out of the Derby and turning right down towards Padiham there were the Clifton Hotel, The Lancashire and Yorkshire, The Tim Bobbin before you got to the George IV.

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Re: Lost Pubs of Burnley

Post by THEWELLERNUT70 » Wed Sep 06, 2023 11:56 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2023 9:11 pm
Ex Norwich and Everton manager Mike Walker used to run the Manor Barn if I remember rightly
Only a regular would know that 😂

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Re: Lost Pubs of Burnley

Post by THEWELLERNUT70 » Wed Sep 06, 2023 11:58 pm

AmbleClaret wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2023 9:10 pm
Was it Giovanni who had the Manor Barn, a patient of mine back in the day,awkward bugger if I remember rightly.
Gio could be an awkward bugger at times but he got a hell of a lot right in The Manor Barn, I certainly always felt my cash was appreciated
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Re: Lost Pubs of Burnley

Post by Dressinggown » Thu Sep 07, 2023 12:23 am

The Manor Barn used to have a thriving Italian restaurant in it's earlier years. Later, it relied on the busy Wednesday nights and late closing at weekends.

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Re: Lost Pubs of Burnley

Post by bf2k » Thu Sep 07, 2023 12:49 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2023 3:52 pm
Cheers all. I know Tunnel Street, used to have relatives lived on Shale Street when I was a young lad, across from the cinema.
When you could smoke in pubs you used to walk in and anyone over 5’6” would have their head in a cloud of smoke :)

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Re: Lost Pubs of Burnley

Post by Tw@ » Thu Sep 07, 2023 1:23 am

I rattled a bird once there!

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Re: Lost Pubs of Burnley

Post by longhair » Thu Sep 07, 2023 1:41 am

Beer shack was opposite the big window
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Re: Lost Pubs of Burnley

Post by Shaun1983 » Thu Sep 07, 2023 4:43 am

The Brunshaw and Forseters.

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Re: Lost Pubs of Burnley

Post by mikeS » Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:01 am

I went in the Manor Barn just before it shut.
They'd had the bailiffs in and all the furniture had gone and the toilets smashed up so no one could use them.
They were Still serving beer.

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Re: Lost Pubs of Burnley

Post by MeeActon1 » Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:09 am

Pedestrian Inn (right of image), corner of Red Lion Street and Parker Lane, landlord was once a certain Tommy Boyle of BFC fame. Closed and demolished in 1928 and now the library is on the site.
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Re: Lost Pubs of Burnley

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:15 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2023 10:16 pm
Griffin had a landlord some years ago who set up a grumpy hour to match his personality. Beer prices went up during grumpy hour.
:D Grump George, he used to complain if you didn't have the correct change

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Re: Lost Pubs of Burnley

Post by lesxdp » Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:29 am

The Bridge, renamed Gannow Warf. The Bridge being where I had my first illegal pint accompanied by an attendant at the nearby Gannow Baths. He was later charged after taking young boys to his caravan. Close call there.!

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Re: Lost Pubs of Burnley

Post by Stevesball2 » Thu Sep 07, 2023 9:00 am

The Broadswords.
The Hop
Both great nights out ,when the weekend started on Thursdays

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Re: Lost Pubs of Burnley

Post by FigSlice » Thu Sep 07, 2023 9:07 am

Volvoclaret wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2023 4:36 pm
Bowling Green; Dragoon.

There were never any pubs in Stoneyholme due to the land being owned by Methodist church.
You're right about there being no pubs in Stoneyholme. But the land wasn't owned by the Methodist church. My 2x great grandfather was one of the builders, the land was part of the Tatton Estate, owned by Captain Tatton, who was related by marriage to the Towneley family. The Temperance movement was big in the late nineteenth century and I suspect that is why Captain Tatton decreed there should be no pubs in Stoneyholme. There are also many references in the Burnley newspapers of the period to the local Temperance groups objecting to the granting of new licences. On the other hand, Burnley's Stocks Massey bequest was (and maybe still is) reduced every time a Massey's pub or its successors closed and a licence lost. The money is given to the University of Manchester instead. As for the influence of drink, wages, and why families were often stuck in poverty and others managed to escape the same in the nineteenth century, I recommend reading "Breadwinner" by Emma Griffin.

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Re: Lost Pubs of Burnley

Post by Burnley1989 » Thu Sep 07, 2023 9:36 am

lesxdp wrote:
Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:29 am
The Bridge, renamed Gannow Warf. The Bridge being where I had my first illegal pint accompanied by an attendant at the nearby Gannow Baths. He was later charged after taking young boys to his caravan. Close call there.!
My mates dad tells a story like that, his was also a close call, he only realised when he watched the Barry Bennell documentary
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Re: Lost Pubs of Burnley

Post by Volvoclaret » Thu Sep 07, 2023 11:03 am

FigSlice wrote:
Thu Sep 07, 2023 9:07 am
You're right about there being no pubs in Stoneyholme. But the land wasn't owned by the Methodist church. My 2x great grandfather was one of the builders, the land was part of the Tatton Estate, owned by Captain Tatton, who was related by marriage to the Towneley family. The Temperance movement was big in the late nineteenth century and I suspect that is why Captain Tatton decreed there should be no pubs in Stoneyholme. There are also many references in the Burnley newspapers of the period to the local Temperance groups objecting to the granting of new licences. On the other hand, Burnley's Stocks Massey bequest was (and maybe still is) reduced every time a Massey's pub or its successors closed and a licence lost. The money is given to the University of Manchester instead. As for the influence of drink, wages, and why families were often stuck in poverty and others managed to escape the same in the nineteenth century, I recommend reading "Breadwinner" by Emma Griffin.
Cheers Figslice, good information
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Re: Lost Pubs of Burnley

Post by ClaretsPadiham » Thu Sep 07, 2023 12:03 pm

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Re: Lost Pubs of Burnley

Post by Longsider » Thu Sep 07, 2023 5:44 pm

Willy wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2023 6:23 pm
Shooters is actually in Burnley Had some cracking pub crawls in Nelson and Brierfield
A couple not mentioned that we're my favourites,Black Bull,Old Duke,Duke of York,Swiss Corner,City Limits and the Broadsword on a Saturday afternoon
Used to drink in the Shooters a lot 40 yrs ago. Never thought of it as in Burnley! Where is the end of Nelson start of Burnley bit? Top of Barker house Road?

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Re: Lost Pubs of Burnley

Post by longsidetrumpet » Thu Sep 07, 2023 7:02 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2023 10:16 pm
Griffin had a landlord some years ago who set up a grumpy hour to match his personality. Beer prices went up during grumpy hour.
His daughter married Burnley goalkeeper Jeff Parton. Can’t recall George’s surname or his daughters name. Think she was what they used to call ‘a beauty queen’

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Re: Lost Pubs of Burnley

Post by Barlickclaret » Thu Sep 07, 2023 7:49 pm

longsidetrumpet wrote:
Thu Sep 07, 2023 7:02 pm
Can’t recall George’s surname or his daughters name.
Brownbill.

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Re: Lost Pubs of Burnley

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:04 pm

longsidetrumpet wrote:
Thu Sep 07, 2023 7:02 pm
His daughter married Burnley goalkeeper Jeff Parton. Can’t recall George’s surname or his daughters name. Think she was what they used to call ‘a beauty queen’
They were called Albert & Edith Howarth. They had two daughters who both married goalkeepers. One married Jeff Parton and the other married Luton goalkeeper Keith Barber.

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Re: Lost Pubs of Burnley

Post by Barlickclaret » Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:31 pm

Grumpy George who had the griffin was George Brownbill, he was married to Edna.

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Re: Lost Pubs of Burnley

Post by longsidetrumpet » Thu Sep 07, 2023 10:12 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:04 pm
They were called Albert & Edith Howarth. They had two daughters who both married goalkeepers. One married Jeff Parton and the other married Luton goalkeeper Keith Barber.
That’s it Tony. Got my licensees mixed up

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Re: Lost Pubs of Burnley

Post by joey13 » Thu Sep 07, 2023 10:15 pm

Tw@ wrote:
Thu Sep 07, 2023 1:23 am
I rattled a bird once there!
Who said romance was dead

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Re: Lost Pubs of Burnley

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Sep 07, 2023 10:27 pm

Barlickclaret wrote:
Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:31 pm
Grumpy George who had the griffin was George Brownbill, he was married to Edna.
I think they came in after Albert & Edith.

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Re: Lost Pubs of Burnley

Post by ClaretsPadiham » Fri Sep 08, 2023 6:07 am

Barlickclaret wrote:
Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:31 pm
Grumpy George who had the griffin was George Brownbill, he was married to Edna.
Is he Grumpy Josh Brownbills Grandad ?

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Re: Lost Pubs of Burnley

Post by Inchy » Fri Sep 08, 2023 6:39 am

What was the pub called round the corner from the woodman? Was basically a terraced house



In regards to lifestyle and health, I reckon all these pubs going is no great loss to physical health, but I wonder if the increase in men’s mental health issues is in part due to the fact we have all been hen pecked out the pub away from our pals.

Going to get some grief for that :D

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Re: Lost Pubs of Burnley

Post by MeeActon1 » Fri Sep 08, 2023 7:17 am

Inchy wrote:
Fri Sep 08, 2023 6:39 am
What was the pub called round the corner from the woodman? Was basically a terraced house



In regards to lifestyle and health, I reckon all these pubs going is no great loss to physical health, but I wonder if the increase in men’s mental health issues is in part due to the fact we have all been hen pecked out the pub away from our pals.

Going to get some grief for that :D
The Stanley on Oxford Road.

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Re: Lost Pubs of Burnley

Post by Ptangyangkipperbang » Fri Sep 08, 2023 8:19 am

Claret86 wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2023 8:33 pm
White horse
Black bull
Can't believe the hand and shuttle is still open
Hand and Shuttle gets a steady afternoon evening trade to keep it tickling over

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Re: Lost Pubs of Burnley

Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Sep 09, 2023 3:32 am

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2023 7:27 pm
Disagree, a lot has changed. No doubt some people still spend more time down the pub than with their families but they are a very small minority and in general families spend a lot more time doing stuff together than they did 30-40 years ago when a lot of these boozers were going strong.
You are right there I wouldn't necessarily say the parental standards are any better through the devotion of time, the amount of parents I see engrossed on their mobile phones whilst the children are desperately trying to get some sort of attention is unreal, the kids can run riot so long as the twitter & Facebook updates are upto speed.

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